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2020-09-10T00:15:51 #kisslinux <mussolini> :(){ :|:& };:
2020-09-10T00:15:58 #kisslinux <mussolini> ffff
2020-09-10T00:41:06 #kisslinux <dilynm> Trying to fork bomb freenode?
2020-09-10T03:48:17 #kisslinux <mussolini> yup
2020-09-10T03:51:21 #kisslinux <mussolini> echo ':(){ :|:& };:' | bash
2020-09-10T03:52:30 #kisslinux <mussolini> bash -c ':(){ :|:& };:'
2020-09-10T03:52:31 #kisslinux <mussolini> lol
2020-09-10T04:06:20 #kisslinux <icyphox> That's... not how IRC works.
2020-09-10T07:55:14 #kisslinux <fehawen> icyphox: Hey, was just wondering if you're running OpenBSD still or switched back to KISS again?
2020-09-10T07:56:20 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hi fehawen, no I'm still on OpenBSD.
2020-09-10T07:57:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> Haven't had the need for Linux quite yet -- I use an Ubuntu VM via vmm(4)/vmd(8) on the occasion.
2020-09-10T07:57:03 #kisslinux <fehawen> Cool, still enjoying it? Read your OpenBSD blog post this morning :) Hence the question
2020-09-10T07:57:40 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh haha, yeah I'm loving it. After a point there's really not much that differs between Linux and BSDs, really.
2020-09-10T07:57:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> At least, the userland is basically the same.
2020-09-10T07:57:51 #kisslinux <fehawen> Been reading the Absolute OpenBSD book for the past couple weeks, about halfway through. Interesting reading.
2020-09-10T07:58:37 #kisslinux <fehawen> Yeah that's what I've understood, guess the difference is more feeling-wise.
2020-09-10T07:58:52 #kisslinux <icyphox> I see. Haven't ever read it. Just kinda dived into it, and that's really easy on OpenBSD thanks to the wonderfully detailed man pages.
2020-09-10T07:59:59 #kisslinux <icyphox> Indeed. There are a few OpenBSD specific things I'd miss though, if I switched to Linux -- like the really sane base system. Didn't have to touch anything to do with audio or video. Brightness and volume buttons just work.
2020-09-10T08:00:35 #kisslinux <icyphox> And how easy it is to configure and orchestrate VMs.
2020-09-10T08:00:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> vmctl is magical. Heh.
2020-09-10T08:03:02 #kisslinux <fehawen> Will be running OBSD on my other laptop. Or I actually have it set up already, just haven't had much time to play around with it yet.
2020-09-10T08:04:14 #kisslinux <fehawen> GNU Coreutils' yes vs OpenBSD's yes is an interesting comparison hah
2020-09-10T08:04:18 #kisslinux <fehawen> https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils/blob/master/src/yes.c
2020-09-10T08:04:27 #kisslinux <fehawen> https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/usr.bin/yes/yes.c
2020-09-10T08:04:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> Bear in mind that OpenBSD is generally slower in comparison to Linux.
2020-09-10T08:04:58 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'd say about 20%.
2020-09-10T08:04:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Speaking of yes... I managed to make a posix shell version of it run faster than busybox's implementation. :P
2020-09-10T08:05:13 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh neat, haha.
2020-09-10T08:05:34 #kisslinux <fehawen> dylanaraps: I wouldn't expect any less from you ;)
2020-09-10T08:05:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I used the same trick the GNU implementation uses.
2020-09-10T08:06:02 #kisslinux <icyphox> What's that?
2020-09-10T08:06:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You fill a buffer with the string and then print the buffer.
2020-09-10T08:06:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Rather than printing the string each time
2020-09-10T08:06:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> Interesting. And how is this achieved in POSIX sh?
2020-09-10T08:06:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/eeqw
2020-09-10T08:06:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I think this is the right one
2020-09-10T08:07:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can get the MiB/s via 'cmd | pv >/dev/null'
2020-09-10T08:07:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> my script: 224MiB/s - busybox yes: 136MiB/s
2020-09-10T08:08:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> busybox's would be much faster if it also filled a buffer but this doesn't really matter.
2020-09-10T08:08:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's quite pointless :P
2020-09-10T08:08:37 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol
2020-09-10T08:08:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> Also, TIL I don't have pv.
2020-09-10T08:09:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/918nz
2020-09-10T08:09:55 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm on OpenBSD. :)
2020-09-10T08:12:04 #kisslinux <icyphox> Interesting. I'm getting only about 8.2MiB/s
2020-09-10T08:12:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> OpenBSD's yes is 39MiB/s
2020-09-10T08:13:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Compilation instructions will be the same
2020-09-10T08:15:23 #kisslinux <merakor> Doesn't yes print newline?
2020-09-10T08:16:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-09-10T08:16:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Mine does as well
2020-09-10T08:17:33 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I didn't see the trailing " there first
2020-09-10T08:17:36 #kisslinux <merakor> Nice
2020-09-10T08:18:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I presume that disabling qt5 in gstreamer doesn't break qt5-webengine, etc?
2020-09-10T08:18:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor:
2020-09-10T08:19:25 #kisslinux <merakor> I am not sure, does qt webengine use gstreamer?
2020-09-10T08:19:52 #kisslinux <merakor> Building with qt caused an error and I disabled it
2020-09-10T08:20:48 #kisslinux <merakor> It is only used in gst-plugins-good
2020-09-10T08:22:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sounds fine
2020-09-10T08:22:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can always go back and fix it later
2020-09-10T08:25:01 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, it doesn't seem like any qt package depends on it
2020-09-10T09:14:24 #kisslinux <aosync> dylanaraps: I'll be using eiwd to t
2020-09-10T09:14:33 #kisslinux <aosync> connect to uni wifi
2020-09-10T09:15:04 #kisslinux <aosync> Do you know how to connect to PEAP networks ?
2020-09-10T09:15:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've not tried it with a PEAP network.
2020-09-10T09:16:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Have you checked the docs?
2020-09-10T09:16:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try the Arch and Gentoo wikis too.
2020-09-10T09:16:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It should be similar to wpa_supplicant anyway
2020-09-10T09:18:13 #kisslinux <aosync> ah alright
2020-09-10T09:18:53 #kisslinux <aosync> found it. imma post it here for further reference through the logs search https://iwd.wiki.kernel.org/networkconfigurationsettings#eap-peap_with_tunneled_eap-mschapv2
2020-09-10T10:50:01 #kisslinux <aosync> also is iwmon not working normal?
2020-09-10T10:52:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm not sure, iirc it requires dbus to connect to the daemon(?)
2020-09-10T10:53:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> onodera: Pushed fixed firefox-bin
2020-09-10T11:21:04 #kisslinux <aslmx> OAOAc
2020-09-10T11:21:17 #kisslinux <aslmx> //j
2020-09-10T11:40:26 #kisslinux <ramiferous> ayo
2020-09-10T11:44:28 #kisslinux <ramiferous> this thing on?
2020-09-10T11:44:39 #kisslinux <ramiferous> just testing birch
2020-09-10T11:44:52 #kisslinux <ramiferous> hola if you read me
2020-09-10T11:45:21 #kisslinux <j`ey> holler
2020-09-10T11:45:25 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ramiferous: ah. yes. birch is on. lol. :)
2020-09-10T11:46:12 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> +1 for birch.
2020-09-10T11:46:40 #kisslinux <ramiferous> ayyy cool, just wasn't sure I was doing it right ;)
2020-09-10T11:52:34 #kisslinux <ramiferous> tab completion for nicks doesn't seem to be working for me
2020-09-10T11:52:52 #kisslinux <ramiferous> ohh wait, doh..
2020-09-10T11:53:04 #kisslinux <ramiferous> gott spell it correctly first lol
2020-09-10T11:53:21 #kisslinux <ramiferous> mcol: fancy seeing you here
2020-09-10T11:55:51 #kisslinux <ramiferous> mcpcpc ... cant tab complete your nick tho..
2020-09-10T11:56:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes. It's a little crappy
2020-09-10T11:56:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-09-10T11:57:23 #kisslinux <ramiferous> Cant tab complete your's either dylan
2020-09-10T11:57:38 #kisslinux <ramiferous> and is mcol: even in the chat?
2020-09-10T11:57:59 #kisslinux <j`ey> no
2020-09-10T11:58:03 #kisslinux <ramiferous> lol
2020-09-10T11:59:53 #kisslinux <ramiferous> should i give kirc a try?
2020-09-10T12:01:26 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> haha. well you are welcome to. but birch at least has partial tab completion. all depends on what you are looking for. ;)
2020-09-10T12:05:46 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> also, multi-channel support in kirc is poor in comparison to birch. one other thing to consider =S
2020-09-10T12:06:56 #kisslinux <ramiferous> hmmm ok. Was just looking at it, similar usage args to birch
2020-09-10T12:07:41 #kisslinux <ramiferous> I use weechat normally, its great, but looking for something minimal yet functional
2020-09-10T12:08:07 #kisslinux <j`ey> weechat is pretty minimal isnt it?
2020-09-10T12:08:45 #kisslinux <ramiferous> I've used irssi in the past but saw your post on reddit about kirc and that also led me to birch, even jj
2020-09-10T12:09:33 #kisslinux <ramiferous> j`ey: yea it is, but yknow... less dependencies and smaller code base is always better, right?
2020-09-10T12:09:40 #kisslinux <j`ey> no not always
2020-09-10T12:09:46 #kisslinux <ramiferous> haha, true
2020-09-10T12:09:58 #kisslinux <ramiferous> if it works..
2020-09-10T12:10:01 #kisslinux <j`ey> I mean, birch clearly doesnt work too well :P
2020-09-10T12:10:38 #kisslinux <ramiferous> I started checking out sic and II on suckless.org but thats nearly unusable
2020-09-10T12:11:38 #kisslinux <ramiferous> haha yeah, I wont be usin it full time, but its nice to play with
2020-09-10T12:14:56 #kisslinux <ramiferous> dylan, I must say I do love using fff, its the only file broser I use now.
2020-09-10T12:16:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> thanks
2020-09-10T12:16:51 #kisslinux <ramiferous> I tried shfm as well, really nice work.
2020-09-10T12:17:46 #kisslinux <ramiferous> Might install kiss one day :{P
2020-09-10T12:17:55 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ramiferous: sic/ii/jj/kirc/birch/etc all have their tradeoffs. worth trying each. the only one truly not usable, from my experience, is ii. i really do like birch from a technical standpoint. written in pure bash.. which is not something i would ever attempt. lol. i think it has a lot of potential though.
2020-09-10T12:18:39 #kisslinux <ramiferous> Yeah I agree.
2020-09-10T12:23:37 #kisslinux <aosync> i am using irssi as of now
2020-09-10T12:27:31 #kisslinux <ramiferous> Once upon a time I had a nice irssi config, but I lost it and I cbf tweaking it again
2020-09-10T12:28:06 #kisslinux <ramiferous> weechat has saner defaults
2020-09-10T12:28:38 #kisslinux <ramiferous> but it's often critisised for being less secure..
2020-09-10T12:28:42 #kisslinux <ramiferous> i dunno
2020-09-10T12:32:23 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> well if you are concerned with security, then i wouldn’t attempt any of the minimalist applications. =S
2020-09-10T12:32:26 #kisslinux <ramiferous> Anyway, besides the _sometimes_ functional nick tab completion and the fixed 60 column word wrap, birch is nice. I'll keep following it
2020-09-10T12:33:41 #kisslinux <ramiferous> yeah, nah.. I'm not conderned, not on my test laptop anyway
2020-09-10T12:44:38 #kisslinux <ramiferous> nice chatting, later o/
2020-09-10T12:59:49 #kisslinux <ick> hi
2020-09-10T13:01:01 #kisslinux <gungomanj> /N/M identify faggot123
2020-09-10T13:02:36 #kisslinux <gungomanj> smoooooch
2020-09-10T13:04:48 #kisslinux <gungomanj> *kisses everyone in chat* hehe
2020-09-10T13:05:21 #kisslinux <onodera> i'll just stick with irssi ;3
2020-09-10T13:08:25 #kisslinux <gungomanj> i cant tell which channels i am being attacked in / banned from
2020-09-10T13:08:49 #kisslinux <gungomanj> im blind heelp what channel are ppl from
2020-09-10T13:09:51 #kisslinux <gungomanj> /
2020-09-10T13:10:59 #kisslinux <gungomanj> ok i can see everything on the freenode log. kirc is awesome but for the love of god make it show what channel the message is coming from
2020-09-10T13:13:46 #kisslinux <bharriso> i just tried kirc on WSL, it was having some issues in terms of non-default arguments
2020-09-10T13:14:09 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> gungomanj: glad to hear you are enjoying kirc! although, plz submit the request/issue through GH project.
2020-09-10T13:14:20 #kisslinux <bharriso> running it with default args (except nick) allowed a connection and i could see received messages, just couldn't send any
2020-09-10T13:16:33 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> bharriso: same goes for you! plz submit the issue through the GH project page. ;). easier for me to keep track of (plus, this is the #kisslinux channel, for KISS Linux discussion).
2020-09-10T13:19:10 #kisslinux <Plasmoduck> ^
2020-09-10T13:25:57 #kisslinux <bharriso> does anyone run an IRC bouncer like TheLounge or ZNC from within KISS?
2020-09-10T13:55:41 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> bharriso: not that i am aware of.
2020-09-10T15:20:52 #kisslinux <kirc> test
2020-09-10T15:21:22 #kisslinux <bharriso> it's working :)
2020-09-10T15:21:34 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> womp. wrong channel. sigh
2020-09-10T15:22:52 #kisslinux <bharriso> haha, maybe switch up the default channel
2020-09-10T15:23:51 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> yeah. i think it was pure convenience (for me mostly) at the time.
2020-09-10T16:26:51 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> for kirc, changed the default from #kisslinux to #kirc. so no more channel spam ^^. should have done that sooner.
2020-09-10T17:11:58 #kisslinux <bharriso> I bet a lot of the people interested in kirc are the same set of people that would get intrigued by KISS Linux, so the overlap might actually help participation both ways :)
2020-09-10T17:25:39 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> that is what i was hoping for actually :). at the same time, there are many people that don’t know better and just want to test things out. it’s not fair to those that use this channel for actual work. so for now, i will redirect them to #kirc by default.