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2020-09-08T00:02:44 #kisslinux <randomuser1> thanks claudia02! I'll try that out
2020-09-08T01:51:29 #kisslinux <himmalerin> finally have gammastep built and usable, ended up following dilynm's suggestion of building it in an alpine chroot:
2020-09-08T02:40:48 #kisslinux <randomuser1> okay
2020-09-08T02:41:02 #kisslinux <randomuser1> i tried the instructions in the pr
2020-09-08T02:41:13 #kisslinux <randomuser1> and ivw not gotten it to work
2020-09-08T02:41:27 #kisslinux <randomuser1> ifconfig just lists the lo device
2020-09-08T02:42:11 #kisslinux <randomuser1> is there a kernel config guide on gentoo wiki or something? if so, havent been able to find it
2020-09-08T06:26:01 #kisslinux <aosync> Does anyone know if it's possible to force whether to connect to a 2.4GHz or a 5GHz wifi with iwd?
2020-09-08T13:33:11 #kisslinux <micr0> mcf just saw your mention re: git, perl, and --patch --interactive. I wonder if git would accept a patch that fell back to that automatically
2020-09-08T16:24:45 #kisslinux <micr0> how does iwd choose which network to connect to if multiple are available?
2020-09-08T16:40:21 #kisslinux <mps> I added libudev-zero to my alpine box, but it doesn't load modules detected by kernel, only those in /etc/modules
2020-09-08T16:40:51 #kisslinux <mps> is there hint how to solve this, or add all needed to /etc/modules
2020-09-08T16:41:04 #kisslinux <mps> alpine use openrc as init 1
2020-09-08T16:43:32 #kisslinux <mps> hmm, maybe I need to install mdevd?
2020-09-08T17:16:56 #kisslinux <illiliti> mps: libudev-zero doesn't load modules. it's up to device manager (i.e mdev, mdevd, etc ...)
2020-09-08T17:20:06 #kisslinux <mps> illiliti: yes, I know this, just not sure which helper I should use to load modules for detected hardware at boot
2020-09-08T17:20:51 #kisslinux <mps> and have to add, libudev-zero works on alpine linux
2020-09-08T17:21:28 #kisslinux <mps> tried Xorg, touchpad and keyboard works out of the box
2020-09-08T17:21:40 #kisslinux <mps> illiliti: thank you for writing it
2020-09-08T17:22:08 #kisslinux <bjoernfan> micr0: I just ran kiss fork git and removed the line about excluding perl, I can't use git without --patch --interactive :P
2020-09-08T17:23:48 #kisslinux <bjoernfan> ahaaa... " btw, you can set add.interactive.usebuiltin to get --patch/--interactive without perl"
2020-09-08T17:26:08 #kisslinux <bjoernfan> micr0: Like your thoughts on KISS_PATH and security, repo source et.c.
2020-09-08T17:27:06 #kisslinux <illiliti> mps: openrc script - https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss/blob/master/mdev.init
2020-09-08T17:27:36 #kisslinux <illiliti> not sure if it works though
2020-09-08T17:32:29 #kisslinux <mps> illiliti: doesn't work, already had it in sysinit runlevel
2020-09-08T17:37:52 #kisslinux <mps> oh, no, I use alpine mdev.init not this one
2020-09-08T17:39:32 #kisslinux <mps> this one look more 'comprehensive'
2020-09-08T17:41:44 #kisslinux <mps> lets see, reboot
2020-09-08T17:44:38 #kisslinux <mps> illiliti: yes, this one from mdev-like-a-boss works. thanks for hint and help :)
2020-09-08T17:46:50 #kisslinux <illiliti> no problem
2020-09-08T17:52:20 #kisslinux <mps> nice, it detects plug/unplug devices
2020-09-08T17:53:17 #kisslinux <mps> (is some write libdbus-zero :) )
2020-09-08T17:53:25 #kisslinux <mps> if*
2020-09-08T17:59:05 #kisslinux <illiliti> dbus is not really mandatory dependency, so no need to rewrite it...
2020-09-08T18:00:15 #kisslinux <illiliti> unlike udev, which is hardcoded in most major linux apps
2020-09-08T18:01:01 #kisslinux <illiliti> even BSD's was forced to rewrite this goddamn library
2020-09-08T18:01:31 #kisslinux <illiliti> https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/libudev-devd
2020-09-08T18:02:59 #kisslinux <mps> yes, I know that dbus is not mandatory but a lot of software doesn't work without it
2020-09-08T18:06:33 #kisslinux <illiliti> patch it ! like Dylan patched iwd
2020-09-08T18:09:02 #kisslinux <mps> heh
2020-09-08T18:09:39 #kisslinux <mps> I'm mostly working on alpine and get such things there is not so easy
2020-09-08T18:10:49 #kisslinux <mps> few weeks ago I removed libpulse, pipewire and dbus from firefox for alpine and few days ago it is reverted to have all this 'nice' (meh) things back
2020-09-08T18:14:20 #kisslinux <illiliti> that's tragic
2020-09-08T18:14:32 #kisslinux <illiliti> alpine sucks
2020-09-08T18:20:46 #kisslinux <mps> illiliti: but works very nice on aarch64 and armv7
2020-09-08T18:21:37 #kisslinux <mps> I'm in small groups of devs who tries to keep it small and simple, as our site say
2020-09-08T18:34:07 #kisslinux <mps> illiliti: sorry to bother you again, but in which init script I should create /tmp/.libudev-zero dir?
2020-09-08T18:35:38 #kisslinux <illiliti> you don't, libudev-zero does this for you automatically
2020-09-08T18:36:49 #kisslinux <mps> how? could you shed some light
2020-09-08T18:37:43 #kisslinux <mps> without adding 'mkdir ...' in mdev init I don't see it
2020-09-08T18:38:30 #kisslinux <mps> hmm, that was with alpine mdev init script, lets try with new one
2020-09-08T18:40:19 #kisslinux <illiliti> /tmp/.libudev-zero created when application(i.e Xorg) ready to accept hotplug uevents
2020-09-08T18:40:30 #kisslinux <mps> see you in few minutes to test
2020-09-08T18:42:40 #kisslinux <mps> illiliti: ah, yes. it works. really nice
2020-09-08T18:43:48 #kisslinux <mps> thanks again
2020-09-08T20:15:26 #kisslinux <mcf> micr0: not sure. personally, i'm fine with patching/setting it in my config for a few more releases until they make the switch naturally
2020-09-08T20:24:52 #kisslinux <micr0> oh yeah, good point. removed my fork for now yay :)