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2020-08-20T00:04:23 #kisslinux <Island_Alpha> Anyone on 2020-08-20T00:17:45 #kisslinux <himmalerin> sort of 2020-08-20T00:25:04 #kisslinux <Island_Alpha> I'm stuck between using firefox-esr-bin because its faster and using firefox-esr because I should have to suffer for that much complexity 2020-08-20T00:28:02 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Faster as in update time? I'd be surprised if the precompiled version ran any faster 2020-08-20T00:28:32 #kisslinux <Island_Alpha> faster as in install/compile time, should have specified 2020-08-20T00:28:44 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I don't think either version adds much complexity, if anything compiling it yourself is more complex 2020-08-20T00:28:45 #kisslinux <himmalerin> ah yeah 2020-08-20T00:29:41 #kisslinux <Island_Alpha> probably, installing the bin package just feels like outsourcing the complexity rather than eliminating it 2020-08-20T00:31:02 #kisslinux <Island_Alpha> I guess I'll go with firefox-esr-bin for now 2020-08-20T00:32:17 #kisslinux <himmalerin> That's true, it is sort of outsourcing it. I have a fast enough processor compiling firefox doesn't make that much of an impact so I never spent much time thinking about it lmao 2020-08-20T00:34:27 #kisslinux <Island_Alpha> Yeah, my i7 gaming laptop is starting to fall apart so I bought a thinkpad x200 off ebay for the 'freedom' which suits my needs but can't compile as fast 2020-08-20T00:34:55 #kisslinux <cat_marin> should have gotten one of those custom motherboards for it 2020-08-20T04:22:19 #kisslinux <micr0> o/ 2020-08-20T04:24:34 #kisslinux <micr0> so i did `kiss update` and noticed that glib was updated. does that mean i need to reinstall everything that depends on it? 2020-08-20T04:25:14 #kisslinux <micr0> kiss b $(kiss revdep glib | cut -d'/' -f1 | tr 'n' ' ') # something like this? 2020-08-20T04:33:07 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I didn't and so far everything is fine, don't think I've rebooted since though 2020-08-20T04:37:29 #kisslinux <micr0> i wish tiny compiled on stable rust 2020-08-20T04:42:55 #kisslinux <himmalerin> same 2020-08-20T10:25:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone here use a webkit2gtk based browser? 2020-08-20T10:36:32 #kisslinux <claudia02> muevoid: I use them ever now and then. 2020-08-20T10:37:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you have any problems with some sites saying Unacceptable TLS? 2020-08-20T10:38:31 #kisslinux <claudia02> Not yet. Do you have an example domain? 2020-08-20T10:38:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> Let me find one quickly 2020-08-20T10:42:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> Not the same error but draculatheme.com also has issues 2020-08-20T10:42:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> same with gitlab 2020-08-20T10:42:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> But im trying to find the site that showed the unacceptable tls 2020-08-20T10:43:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> I cant display gitlab right aswell. But that has always been the case. 2020-08-20T10:44:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> Alright another issue I have is reddit.com not being able to click show full conversation while on a post. 2020-08-20T10:44:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> I may just consider using firefox at this point 2020-08-20T10:44:47 #kisslinux <claudia02> Draculathme works with javascript off (: 2020-08-20T10:44:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> Really? 2020-08-20T10:45:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> What browser are you using? 2020-08-20T10:45:47 #kisslinux <claudia02> The git version of surf. But gitlab e.g doestn also work in vimb or lariza. 2020-08-20T10:46:13 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I am using vimb right now 2020-08-20T10:46:41 #kisslinux <claudia02> Reddit works without issues while I am logged in. 2020-08-20T10:46:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ill try logging in I usually browse while not logged in 2020-08-20T10:47:13 #kisslinux <claudia02> I think when I am not logged in it also does not work. 2020-08-20T10:47:24 #kisslinux <claudia02> Thats the pita with webkit.. 2020-08-20T10:47:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I really want to use firefox but I hate using binaries and rust takes so long to compile 2020-08-20T10:48:08 #kisslinux <claudia02> Just dont visit thoes websites :D 2020-08-20T10:48:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> True lol 2020-08-20T10:48:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> The only reason I came across the issue is I was trying to find dependencies for pivita(a video editor to package it) 2020-08-20T10:48:54 #kisslinux <claudia02> But I also have a fullfeatured browser handy for when its important :( 2020-08-20T10:49:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you use -bin or compiled it? 2020-08-20T10:49:24 #kisslinux <claudia02> Atm, just the bin. 2020-08-20T10:49:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah 2020-08-20T10:50:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> What do you think about rust? 2020-08-20T10:50:58 #kisslinux <claudia02> Normaly I was using qutebrowser and was quite happy with it, until qt5-webengine decided to crashing while displaying video content. I could not figure out the issue. Thats why I hopped browser and toolkit again. 2020-08-20T10:51:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> How was compile times for qutebrowser and friends? 2020-08-20T10:51:40 #kisslinux <claudia02> If I would have a more powerful machine, I would not mind. But everything takes ages to build. 2020-08-20T10:52:02 #kisslinux <claudia02> On my 3rd gen i3 It takes about 5-7h? 2020-08-20T10:52:20 #kisslinux <claudia02> i5 2020-08-20T10:52:22 #kisslinux <claudia02> * 2020-08-20T10:52:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is it a dual core or quad core? 2020-08-20T10:53:01 #kisslinux <claudia02> Dual 2020-08-20T10:53:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Browsers suck :P 2020-08-20T10:57:58 #kisslinux <necromansy> browsers are the bane of suckless, all those tui/cli yt client��� 2020-08-20T10:58:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I use tuitube :P 2020-08-20T10:58:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> Just use lynx /s 2020-08-20T10:58:53 #kisslinux <necromansy> i'm a tab hoarder too, which is *my* problem but damn it makes��� 2020-08-20T10:59:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I have trouble with tabbed keybinds however I could probably change them 2020-08-20T11:00:04 #kisslinux <necromansy> tabbed prob would shit itself with my tab count, one thing i l��� 2020-08-20T11:07:11 #kisslinux <claudia02> The extensive tabs usage, is something you have to activly change. Since I use surf again for some time, I start closing my ff tabs :D 2020-08-20T11:07:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> I need to switch away from vimb to surf 2020-08-20T11:08:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is there a way to set a default homepage in surf probs not without a patch I assume 2020-08-20T11:13:44 #kisslinux <necromansy> yeah the exstensive tab usage is entirely a self driven issue,��� 2020-08-20T11:18:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> I am not sure why but I really dislike rust for some reason. 2020-08-20T11:19:05 #kisslinux <necromansy> rust seems to be the big new dev environment 2020-08-20T11:19:49 #kisslinux <necromansy> or dev language rather 2020-08-20T11:20:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah that's why I'm not sure why I dislike it so much 2020-08-20T11:21:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> I know its a great language for high performance applications that need memory safety 2020-08-20T11:21:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think its mainly due to the compile times 2020-08-20T11:21:44 #kisslinux <necromansy> could be a case of "ugh its the next Big Thing", no idea about��� 2020-08-20T11:21:54 #kisslinux <necromansy> ah 2020-08-20T11:22:21 #kisslinux <necromansy> yeah the compile times do seem pre large 2020-08-20T11:22:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> My relatively good computer takes around 1 to 2 hours to compile the compiler where as gcc takes just around 15 mins 2020-08-20T11:23:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Also rust binaries seem to be larger since they are almost always usually statically compiled. 2020-08-20T11:25:01 #kisslinux <necromansy> is there any benefits in speed with static compilation for the��� 2020-08-20T11:25:59 #kisslinux <obsessive[m]> brow.sh is how i like it. just a working proof of concept though imo 2020-08-20T11:28:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oh yeah i've seen brow.sh it is great 2020-08-20T11:28:25 #kisslinux <necromansy> where can i find that? 2020-08-20T11:29:36 #kisslinux <necromansy> oh wait, i know what ya talking about 2020-08-20T11:29:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> And also in regards to static compilation for binaries. Speed wise it depends. Most of the time probably not that large of a difference but when using a library like gtk or qt when its shared it doesn't have to be loaded every time. Also with static binaries it can lead to security issues with outdated libraries. 2020-08-20T12:19:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fixed the /etc issue. Apologies. 2020-08-20T12:19:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Released kiss 5.0.1. 2020-08-20T12:20:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also... please open bug reports! (thanks Konimex). 2020-08-20T12:27:13 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylanaraps: What do you think about an irc motd about: how to report bugs faq? 2020-08-20T12:27:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sure 2020-08-20T12:28:45 #kisslinux <claudia02> I can try to write something. But thats probably just a template. 2020-08-20T12:37:35 #kisslinux <aosync> hi 2020-08-20T12:38:10 #kisslinux <aosync> I am on kiss 5.0.1 but busybox build aborts without error after `-> busybox Generating etcsums` 2020-08-20T12:48:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can't reproduce. Let me look into this. 2020-08-20T12:49:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Using busybox find? 2020-08-20T12:49:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can anyone else reproduce? 2020-08-20T13:10:29 #kisslinux <perish> hello!hello! 2020-08-20T13:10:45 #kisslinux <necromansy> as in building busybox? 2020-08-20T13:10:54 #kisslinux <necromansy> also hey! 2020-08-20T13:14:18 #kisslinux <perish> Would anyone happen to know any way of getting imlib2 to load xpm and xbm images? 2020-08-20T13:14:42 #kisslinux <perish> I've found a treasure trove of tiled wallpapers and my image viewer refuses to open a single one of them :< 2020-08-20T13:15:03 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> perish: oh man. i went through that a few months ago while one Gentoo. one sec.. 2020-08-20T13:15:53 #kisslinux <perish> Thanks! 2020-08-20T13:18:50 #kisslinux <perish> re: aosync: can't reproduce in busybox find 2020-08-20T13:18:53 #kisslinux <perish> http://0x0.st/igPl.png 2020-08-20T13:24:28 #kisslinux <necromansy> yeah i wasn't able to reproduce either 2020-08-20T13:26:19 #kisslinux <aosync> guess i'll stay forever at busybox v1.32.0 2020-08-20T13:29:50 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> perish: sadly, i could not find my Gentoo notes >.<. will keep looking tho and share if i find anything.. 2020-08-20T13:36:07 #kisslinux <perish> Ouch 2020-08-20T13:36:19 #kisslinux <perish> I tried using the --enable-x option for imlib2 2020-08-20T13:36:22 #kisslinux <perish> But no luck 2020-08-20T13:36:31 #kisslinux <perish> I suppose I'll have to build some older X11 apps 2020-08-20T13:36:35 #kisslinux <perish> xv here we go? 2020-08-20T13:44:07 #kisslinux <claudia02> date 2020-08-20T13:44:10 #kisslinux <claudia02> ... 2020-08-20T13:44:20 #kisslinux <claudia02> 15:44 2020-08-20T14:07:31 #kisslinux <cat_marin> epic dylan saw it 2020-08-20T14:07:39 #kisslinux <cat_marin> thanks for the help dudes 2020-08-20T14:11:02 #kisslinux <micr0> wow diskonaut works so well https://github.com/imsnif/diskonaut 2020-08-20T14:13:45 #kisslinux <dilynm> Diskonaut is neat. It's a cooler daisydisk 2020-08-20T14:13:57 #kisslinux <dilynm> Makes me feel like I have egg on my face for buying a license (: 2020-08-20T14:15:17 #kisslinux <micr0> daisydisk has been around for a while 2020-08-20T14:17:15 #kisslinux <dilynm> Many many years 2020-08-20T14:17:22 #kisslinux <dilynm> It's got a pretty visualizer 2020-08-20T14:17:47 #kisslinux <dilynm> There's a program like diskonaut from I've a decade ago on windows that does an identical thing... It was so ugly xD 2020-08-20T14:17:58 #kisslinux <micr0> and its prettier than diskinventoryx 2020-08-20T14:22:02 #kisslinux <illiliti> dylanaraps: i can reproduce ! 2020-08-20T14:22:26 #kisslinux <illiliti> log termbin.com/mvcj (not full) 2020-08-20T14:35:05 #kisslinux <illiliti> termbin.com/itjl 2020-08-20T14:40:06 #kisslinux <illiliti> regression - https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/fecf4995f8b580714a2517d9dab6521876c27bd2#diff-4188679c1d8a284ccc41a6b601869e05R517 2020-08-20T14:44:19 #kisslinux <illiliti> patch - termbin.com/3etn 2020-08-20T14:53:18 #kisslinux <illiliti> issue - https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/issues/176 2020-08-20T15:13:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks! 2020-08-20T15:16:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Pushed 5.0.2 to repositories. 2020-08-20T15:16:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks everyone. 2020-08-20T15:34:56 #kisslinux <cat_marin> thx bb 2020-08-20T16:24:57 #kisslinux <micr0> himmalerin: ended up using dispatch, a web based irc client written in go, for now... 2020-08-20T16:25:11 #kisslinux <micr0> in good news, sway and firefox seem to be working nicely 2020-08-20T16:25:17 #kisslinux <micr0> (though ff is using Xwayland, whatevs) 2020-08-20T18:32:23 #kisslinux <micr0> dylanaraps: would you consider enabling internationalization support for nodejs? reasoning is that nodejs is used to build software, and although it makes (some) sense that k1ss will be an english-only distribution, it seems not in great spirit to make it difficult to *create* software that supports different languages 2020-08-20T18:33:38 #kisslinux <micr0> I am testing out a fork of extra/nodejs that removes `--without-internationalization` to see how it fares 2020-08-20T19:40:45 #kisslinux <micr0> anyone have a nice system or sway-wide ssh-agent setup? 2020-08-20T19:53:29 #kisslinux <micr0_> himmalerin: i packaged tiny for kiss - they have a static (musl) build 2020-08-20T20:07:45 #kisslinux <minall> Hello KissLinux Community!... I'm trying to start the installation ok the system in one of my machines using the Archlinux ISO, however, I'm getting constant errors such as 'no space left on device'. This is the only error that prevents me to install the system successfully, since I tried it with another system and, at the part of downloading and compiling Linux, I ran out of space, making all the work meaningless 2020-08-20T20:08:00 #kisslinux <minall> Maybe I'm doing something wrong?, or do I need to read about something? 2020-08-20T20:18:17 #kisslinux <micr0_> what does 'df -h' show? 2020-08-20T20:18:28 #kisslinux <minall> There's available space 2020-08-20T20:19:38 #kisslinux <minall> micr0_: Thanks for looking into my problem 2020-08-20T20:20:22 #kisslinux <micr0_> minall one thing i did for my kiss installation, is that i just installed it to a directory in my home, and did kiss u and kiss b and kiss i until i had all the stuff i wanted 2020-08-20T20:20:39 #kisslinux <micr0_> then when i wanted to put it on a partition, i just formatted a partition and used rsync to copy from the directory to the partition, then rebooted 2020-08-20T20:22:19 #kisslinux <minall> micro0_: That IS cool... Wait, I'm making the dd again of archlinux so I can install KISS 2020-08-20T20:33:45 #kisslinux <jedavies> Did anyone package Samba for KISS? 2020-08-20T20:35:57 #kisslinux <micr0_> jedavies according to kiss-find, oiraff has a samba package in github.com/ioraff/kiss-personal 2020-08-20T20:40:42 #kisslinux <jedavies> Thanks micr0_, will check it out. 2020-08-20T20:42:56 #kisslinux <minall> When untar'ing kiss linux chroot file, I get an error "Cannot write: No space left on device", where in another installation attempt in a bigger system than archlinux, it didn't outputed that error... Also, df -h shows several systems that have space available, 1.9G available 2020-08-20T20:47:21 #kisslinux <micr0_> can you paste the entire output of `df -h` and `pwd`? 2020-08-20T20:47:42 #kisslinux <micr0_> df -h | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io 2020-08-20T20:47:51 #kisslinux <micr0_> that should give you a url we can look at 2020-08-20T20:48:03 #kisslinux <micr0_> its also possible you are on a read-only directory 2020-08-20T20:48:34 #kisslinux <micr0_> so like if you are on a liveusb of arch, it may either a) mount itself read-only, or b) do some loopback mount where there are exactly 0 bytes available 2020-08-20T20:48:49 #kisslinux <micr0_> in that case you would need to mount your disk partition somewhere and untar there 2020-08-20T20:49:43 #kisslinux <minall> micr0: Thanks for looking at my problem!, the url is http://ix.io/2uKy... And I think is more about being it read-only 2020-08-20T20:51:18 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> minall: in case it helps, i documented my entire install process a few months back. definitely check it against the install guide tho: https://github.com/mcpcpc/install 2020-08-20T20:51:50 #kisslinux <minall> Thanks mcpcpc[m]!, I'm checking that out 2020-08-20T20:52:40 #kisslinux <micr0_> ok minall so yeah, the only writeable mounted folder is /tmp 2020-08-20T20:52:45 #kisslinux <micr0_> which is just in-memory 2020-08-20T20:53:37 #kisslinux <minall> micr0: Oh... What are my options then lol... Let me check the wiki 2020-08-20T20:55:52 #kisslinux <micr0_> so what you need to do, is find out what drive you want to install to 2020-08-20T20:56:18 #kisslinux <micr0_> you could install to another usb drive, or your hard drive in the computer, but you will want to partition it first if you want to keep your old files 2020-08-20T20:56:27 #kisslinux <micr0_> if this is a new pc, you can format the whole disk though 2020-08-20T20:57:37 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> don’t think there is anything really covering partitioning/mounting in the K1SS wiki (yet). but the gentoo handbook is decent for that: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks 2020-08-20T20:58:09 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> minall: but as micr0_ indicated, this is entirely user preference. 2020-08-20T21:03:47 #kisslinux <minall> Welp, Guess I'll wipe out the disk... It's a new laptop so, no problem, I'll keep you updated 2020-08-20T21:31:11 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "Welp, Guess I'll wipe out the di"> if you're on efi, you need a ~200mb efi (fat32) partition mounted to /mnt/boot and whatever size ext4 mounted to /mnt 2020-08-20T21:31:29 #kisslinux <dan[m]> just ask if you need any help 2020-08-20T21:54:22 #kisslinux <minall> dan[m]: Thanks!... I have a 200MB partition EFI and a home which I'm using now to install everything (everything is working)... But I also have a swap partition... Is there any way of using it?, not that I need it but, I mean to say that it is the swap of the system 2020-08-20T21:55:22 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "dan: Thanks!... I have a 200MB p"> how much ram do you have? i have 8gb in my kiss laptop and i dont use swap. i wouldnt worry too much since you can always make a swap file on the root partition 2020-08-20T21:55:32 #kisslinux <dan[m]> > <@freenode_minall:matrix.org> dan: Thanks!... I have a 200MB partition EFI and a home which I'm using now to install everything (everything is working)... But I also have a swap partition... Is there any way of using it?, not that I need it but, I mean to say that it is the swap of the system 2020-08-20T21:55:32 #kisslinux <dan[m]> * how much ram do you have? i have 8gb in my kiss laptop and i dont use swap. i wouldnt worry too much since you can always make a swap file on the root partition at a later date 2020-08-20T21:57:49 #kisslinux <minall> I have 4GB of RAM, I would do it just to be sure... I have a 16GB RAM pc and I still make some RAM 2020-08-20T21:58:02 #kisslinux <minall> Ok I'm at the best part, compiling Linux 2020-08-20T22:00:47 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "Ok I'm at the best part, compili"> did you config the kernel? it saves a ton of compile time 2020-08-20T22:07:51 #kisslinux <minall> dan[m]: On it... Actually it is my first time compiling the kernel, so I don't understand some of the 'make config' options there are... Even with their descriptions... Is there a page about this?, I'm also writing all my commands and ideas 2020-08-20T22:08:40 #kisslinux <minall> Also, its good if Kiss Linux makes me feel dumb?... The error earlier was because I was trying to install KissLinux into the /mnt directory, but haven't mounted any partition there, quite stupid lol... But I've learned, thanks Kiss LInus 2020-08-20T22:09:25 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "dan: On it... Actually it is my "> my laptop is a dell latitude 5480, so if you have anything similar ill be able to help a lot. i just used the help pages for each command and disabled anything i was 100% certain i didnt need, since its easier to remove stuff later than find out whats required. you can also look at your laptops page on the gentoo wiki if it has one, as well as info for wifi cards and the like. 2020-08-20T22:10:35 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "Also, its good if Kiss Linux mak"> :) i had previously installed gentoo and arch and kiss made me feel clueless, but once you get it installed you know *exactly* what is on your system, makes you feel in control and able to resolve problems and customize to a huge degree. hands down the best os ive ever used, enjoyable and functional. 2020-08-20T22:11:23 #kisslinux <minall> Makes sense and, I'll search my laptop in the gentoo wiki. 2020-08-20T22:11:45 #kisslinux <minall> Yes, I think that's the beauty on Kiss Linux, I also am an Archlinux User but, I wish to learn everything about it 2020-08-20T22:11:54 #kisslinux <minall> Everything my linux system I mean 2020-08-20T22:12:11 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "Yes, I think that's the beauty o"> ive been on kiss for about 6 months on my laptop, but still use artix (arch) on my desktop due to the software support 2020-08-20T22:12:32 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "Everything my linux system I mea"> yep, you can only learn by going out of your comfort zone 2020-08-20T22:12:55 #kisslinux <minall> dan[m]: Thanks for the help!... I'm right now 'make config'ing my kernel 2020-08-20T22:13:19 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "Makes sense and, I'll search my "> in general, the only problems with the kernel are: wifi cards, i2c bus' on modern laptops, gpu drivers, mouse / trackpad drivers, audio drivers. 2020-08-20T22:13:33 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "dan: Thanks for the help!... I'm"> cool, i can send over my .config if you want 2020-08-20T22:15:13 #kisslinux <dan[m]> its the most minimal i could make it 2020-08-20T22:16:25 #kisslinux <minall> dan[m]: It's ok, I'm reading every ? I can on the make config... And the laptop I'm installing it now, My secondary laptop, isn't complicated, I think it doesn't use firmware more than intel-ucode, which is optional, even the wifi works so... I won't have much trouble 2020-08-20T22:16:45 #kisslinux <minall> The think is if I decide to install it in my main laptop, in that time I would really need to be sure everything works, and firmware needed 2020-08-20T22:16:59 #kisslinux <dan[m]> sounds good, thats exactly what i did to config mine 2020-08-20T22:18:13 #kisslinux <minall> I'm at the compression type with several options, there's a brief explanation but, there's no comparation between them, what should I do?... I'm investigating each of them 2020-08-20T22:19:05 #kisslinux <dan[m]> leave it default it can cause problems 2020-08-20T22:19:18 #kisslinux <dan[m]> at the end of the day, all that option can do is save a couple mbs on the efi part 2020-08-20T22:20:08 #kisslinux <minall> dan[m]: True... Default it is then, the important thing is to learn along the way 2020-08-20T22:20:21 #kisslinux <dan[m]> <minall "dan: True... Default it is then,"> yep :)