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2020-04-03T00:21:38 #kisslinux <onodera> how do people here set the root image (wallpaper)? 2020-04-03T00:30:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> wal 2020-04-03T00:31:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> or feh 2020-04-03T00:34:19 #kisslinux <onodera> hmm I might port setroot then 2020-04-03T00:34:33 #kisslinux <onodera> basically feh without the image viewing part 2020-04-03T00:35:55 #kisslinux <onodera> And what about screenshots? is there any nice program besides scrot & maim 2020-04-03T00:36:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> imlib2_grab 2020-04-03T00:36:20 #kisslinux <onodera> I want something that can take selection screenshots. Scrot can give weird artifacts and maim is kind of bloated 2020-04-03T00:41:20 #kisslinux <illiliti> onodera: https://github.com/dylanaraps/bin/blob/master/scr 2020-04-03T00:42:30 #kisslinux <onodera> illiliti: thanks, can that do selections screenshots though? 2020-04-03T00:42:54 #kisslinux <illiliti> i don't think so 2020-04-03T00:43:41 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/g-truc/glm/issues/947 2020-04-03T00:43:48 #kisslinux <onodera> lmao, what a weird issue 2020-04-03T00:44:07 #kisslinux <onodera> developer seemingly purposefully breaks his software without any rationale 2020-04-03T00:50:42 #kisslinux <onodera> wait dilyn, you are not dylan? 2020-04-03T00:51:23 #kisslinux <onodera> I just saw you have a PR open, I thought this was a creative way of spelling dylan lol 2020-04-03T01:06:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> i am not dylan araps 2020-04-03T01:06:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> that should be my new name lmao 2020-04-03T01:34:02 #kisslinux <illiliti> mforney: are you maintainer of ubase? 2020-04-03T01:37:10 #kisslinux <mforney> illiliti: only sbase currently. but i do have a personal branch of ubase i've been collecting some patches in 2020-04-03T01:44:27 #kisslinux <illiliti> oh, sorry then. i wrote a simple patch that fixes 'mount -o move' - https://gist.github.com/illiliti/7c07d3b7a9b762bc0ffe7600d0229b3f . it might be worth to apply it to upstream .... 2020-04-03T01:46:57 #kisslinux <mforney> illiliti: can you send it to the mailing list? hackers⊙so 2020-04-03T01:55:31 #kisslinux <illiliti> i'll try 2020-04-03T02:22:30 #kisslinux <illiliti> mforney: sent! 2020-04-03T02:42:22 #kisslinux <mforney> illiliti: thanks! 2020-04-03T04:39:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> all: claudio2: I think I have fixed our falkon issue. If anyone has an issue with falkon (it looks for QT resources in /share/qt, not /usr/share/qt), attempt to add this file to /usr/bin: [200~https://github.com/dilyn-corner/community/blob/falkon-fix/community/falkon/files/qt.conf 2020-04-03T04:39:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> finally took some time to look at it and it has worked for me. want someone else to take a peak to see if i've missed something 2020-04-03T05:36:26 #kisslinux <illiliti> guys, need help. how to emulate 'sleep 0.5' in pure posix shell? hacks and dirty tricks are accepted :) 2020-04-03T06:05:12 #kisslinux <illiliti> E5ten: did you get rid of perl script needed for wireguard? just curious 2020-04-03T06:13:22 #kisslinux <E5ten> http://ix.io/2grS this replaces arch/x86/crypto/poly1305-x86_64-cryptogams.pl, you also haev to change that Makefile to deal with it being a shell script now, the script comes from openssl and has codepaths that are never accessed in the kernel build, all of those aren't replicated here in the shell version (I had them initially and removed them afterwards cuz they're unneeded) 2020-04-03T06:13:44 #kisslinux <E5ten> it'll probably need to be updated to match the perl version in the future whenever it gets changed 2020-04-03T09:31:46 #kisslinux <claudia> dilyn: Re falkon: I can test and report later in the evening 2020-04-03T09:32:09 #kisslinux <claudia> also, nice! (: 2020-04-03T09:35:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://icyphox.sh/blog/kiss-zen/ 2020-04-03T09:35:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> :) 2020-04-03T09:49:33 #kisslinux <lieu> o/ 2020-04-03T09:49:50 #kisslinux <dzove855> icyphox: great blog. Didn't even know about kiss-games 2020-04-03T09:50:40 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan has reached peak simplicity 2020-04-03T09:51:18 #kisslinux <lieu> he's been offline for a couple of days already 2020-04-03T09:51:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol 2020-04-03T09:51:51 #kisslinux <icyphox> dzove855: Thanks! 2020-04-03T09:53:03 #kisslinux <lieu> I'm really hoping and praying that claudia packages snes9x lol 2020-04-03T09:54:27 #kisslinux <dzove855> lieu: huu, that would be great and also other emulators :D 2020-04-03T10:04:04 #kisslinux <claudia02> there is mednafen 2020-04-03T10:04:07 #kisslinux <claudia02> :P 2020-04-03T10:04:16 #kisslinux <claudia02> as multisystem emulator 2020-04-03T10:07:39 #kisslinux <dzove855> aah didn't know. I will have a look :D does it provide the possibility to play nintendo DS games? 2020-04-03T10:09:33 #kisslinux <claudia02> dzove855: I havent tried that. 2020-04-03T10:09:57 #kisslinux <claudia02> Also not on any other emulator. I guess its special because of the touch input 2020-04-03T10:11:53 #kisslinux <dzove855> i had used once a nintendo ds emulator. 2020-04-03T10:13:11 #kisslinux <dzove855> it was this one : http://desmume.org/ 2020-04-03T11:18:03 #kisslinux <jedavies> Didn't know about mednafen, that's great! Really need to do Earthbound again... 2020-04-03T11:49:32 #kisslinux <claudia02> the only game I really play is classic doom from time to time. I would like to have some kind of arcade racing game beside tuxracer and srb2kart, but havent found one yet. 2020-04-03T11:52:04 #kisslinux <claudia02> packaging all this stuff feels like collecting classic video games to me, for the people who know what this feels like. :D 2020-04-03T11:58:44 #kisslinux <claudia02> jedavies: earthbound is one of the good snes rpgs? 2020-04-03T12:17:31 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yeah it's a weird one... 2020-04-03T13:08:00 #kisslinux <onodera> what is the "suckless" filesystem to use? 2020-04-03T13:13:11 #kisslinux <illiliti> ext4,f2fs 2020-04-03T13:14:25 #kisslinux <onodera> I'm using f2fs atm, but it is weird with fsck 2020-04-03T13:18:21 #kisslinux <illiliti> fsck is evil. i always remove its 2020-04-03T13:22:28 #kisslinux <fehawen> Dylan looked into packaging docker for KISS, but said it was difficult with all of docker's dependecies. 2020-04-03T13:23:06 #kisslinux <fehawen> And as I use (need) docker frequently for work stuff, I'll have to dig deeper into it later at some point 2020-04-03T13:24:00 #kisslinux <fehawen> But I'm working on a few projects that require dotnet and aspnet. Anyone running KISS using any .NET stuff? 2020-04-03T13:24:24 #kisslinux <fehawen> Would be easy enough with e.g. docker, obviously. But without it, hmm... 2020-04-03T13:26:14 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> I'm not using .NET, are you able to do similar stuff with LXC/LXD that you do in docker? 2020-04-03T13:29:05 #kisslinux <lieu> o/ 2020-04-03T13:32:23 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: setroot is in the community repo btw 2020-04-03T13:39:36 #kisslinux <onodera> lieu: sorry I missed something 2020-04-03T13:39:39 #kisslinux <onodera> what is? 2020-04-03T13:40:51 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: you were talking about wallpaper setters a while ago 2020-04-03T13:43:05 #kisslinux <lieu> and you were planning on packaging it, no? 2020-04-03T13:48:57 #kisslinux <onodera> ahhh I see 2020-04-03T13:48:59 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks 2020-04-03T13:51:25 #kisslinux <fehawen> ominous_anonymou: No idea tbh, but should be possible. Tricky part is all docker and compose files used, as we're several developers working on same projects etc. 2020-04-03T13:56:38 #kisslinux <dzove855> fehawen: did you have a look and libpot? I might be easyer to package for kiss, but i did not have yet the time to look into it 2020-04-03T13:57:28 #kisslinux <icyphox> People really do get annoyed by "Unix minimalists" lol. 2020-04-03T13:57:44 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://lobste.rs/s/vpckxz/zen_kiss_linux 2020-04-03T14:02:49 #kisslinux <dzove855> they don't like our folk! 2020-04-03T14:05:24 #kisslinux <onodera> >UNIX minimalist reactionary 2020-04-03T14:05:26 #kisslinux <onodera> das rite 2020-04-03T14:06:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'm shocked by how necessary people think notifications are 2020-04-03T14:06:31 #kisslinux <onodera> I wrote my own libnotify display thingy in go 2020-04-03T14:07:55 #kisslinux <onodera> https:/camille.sh/PXqj.png 2020-04-03T14:09:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> onodera: Neato! What's it called? 2020-04-03T14:09:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> Just more reactionary minimalism smh /s 2020-04-03T14:10:01 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/onodera-punpun/melonnotifier 2020-04-03T14:10:18 #kisslinux <onodera> also check out: https://github.com/onodera-punpun/melonbar 2020-04-03T14:11:06 #kisslinux <onodera> https:/camille.sh/1W1F.png 2020-04-03T14:14:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> onodera: Nifty. I will try this out. 2020-04-03T14:17:03 #kisslinux <onodera> requires libnotify though 2020-04-03T14:17:15 #kisslinux <onodera> probably not packages on kiss, i might port it later this evening 2020-04-03T14:19:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> onodera: Doesn't libnotify depend on D-Bus? 2020-04-03T14:19:54 #kisslinux <onodera> probably lol 2020-04-03T14:20:16 #kisslinux <onodera> eh according to the crux port, only gtk3 2020-04-03T14:20:45 #kisslinux <onodera> interesting 2020-04-03T14:21:16 #kisslinux <onodera> can't imagine it doesn't use dbus though 2020-04-03T14:23:06 #kisslinux <onodera> hmm I have to figure out another way of getting notifications then 2020-04-03T14:23:32 #kisslinux <onodera> for irssi I can just execute a command with a string, though firefox uses libnotify... 2020-04-03T14:26:14 #kisslinux <onodera> another question, I want to prettify my repo folder, I just want this structure: repo -> [core -> ports, extra -> ports, community -> ports] 2020-04-03T14:27:09 #kisslinux <onodera> though because of the structure of the git repo it is: repo -> [core -> ports, extra -> ports], community -> community -> ports 2020-04-03T14:27:32 #kisslinux <onodera> can I somehow clone and pull directories in a git repo rather than the whole repo with the .github and README included? 2020-04-03T14:28:41 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: you can just fork them through `kiss-fork <package name>` 2020-04-03T14:29:48 #kisslinux <lieu> but KISS assumes repos to be git repos 2020-04-03T14:29:58 #kisslinux <onodera> how can I install these kiss utils? 2020-04-03T14:30:02 #kisslinux <onodera> what is the port name 2020-04-03T14:30:21 #kisslinux <lieu> it's included in `kiss` 2020-04-03T14:30:48 #kisslinux <lieu> s/it's/they're/g 2020-04-03T14:31:18 #kisslinux <onodera> ah I thought there was a port for them 2020-04-03T14:31:46 #kisslinux <lieu> and a good bunch of utils, they are 2020-04-03T14:31:52 #kisslinux <lieu> pretty handy at times 2020-04-03T14:32:08 #kisslinux <lieu> especially `kiss-manifest` (for me, at least) 2020-04-03T14:33:06 #kisslinux <lieu> onedera: There was a time it was a separate package called `kiss-utils`. Then Dylan decided to ship them alongside `kiss`. 2020-04-03T14:34:49 #kisslinux <lieu> Btw, when I say KISS <- like this, I'm pertaining to the distro. And when I say `kiss`, it's the package manager. #JustSayin lol 2020-04-03T14:49:39 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> if i recall, there was a way to do notifications by dynamically creating lemonbars? am i making that up? 2020-04-03T14:51:18 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> http://blog.z3bra.org/2014/04/pop-it-up.html boom, you looking for this? 2020-04-03T14:52:31 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually i'm wondering iw d-bus could be rewritten by providing the same development interface, and behind just put file based messages and using inotify for clients 2020-04-03T15:01:26 #kisslinux <dzove855> if i remeber right to connect on dbus they're using also the dbus client interface, which should actually be possible 2020-04-03T15:01:31 #kisslinux <dzove855> and provide it rootless 2020-04-03T15:02:44 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> onodera check that blog post from z3bra above 2020-04-03T15:04:40 #kisslinux <onodera> i totally forgot about him 2020-04-03T15:04:46 #kisslinux <onodera> I used to read all his blog posts 2020-04-03T15:16:02 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: https://github.com/clifordsab/bli/tree/master/ss/libnotify 2020-04-03T15:16:30 #kisslinux <lieu> builds fine, I guess 2020-04-03T15:16:55 #kisslinux <lieu> not sure about the depends file, though 2020-04-03T15:20:47 #kisslinux <lieu> nvm, depends done lol 2020-04-03T15:21:52 #kisslinux <onodera> so how does that work without dbus... 2020-04-03T15:24:55 #kisslinux <lieu> idk, i just tested if it builds without dbus 2020-04-03T16:12:55 #kisslinux <humaid> ominous_anonymou: about pop it up...good piece. 2020-04-03T16:15:57 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> hi, anyone knows how is the more efficient way to pass flags to a makefile? 2020-04-03T16:16:46 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i mean run make with a flags with various option, `make --something` 2020-04-03T16:17:37 #kisslinux <humaid> I have a question. Why KISS doesn't include d-bus? 2020-04-03T16:18:05 #kisslinux <humaid> what are the problems of d-bus? 2020-04-03T16:18:55 #kisslinux <humaid> I've learned about systemd, but not d-bus. 2020-04-03T16:55:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> Weird. 'kiss b ninja' gives me: /usr/bin/kiss: line 103: can't open version: no such file 2020-04-03T17:00:27 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: What's the output of `ls $(kiss s ninja)`? 2020-04-03T17:15:42 #kisslinux <icyphox> lieu: Well, I get "Package ninja not in any repository". 2020-04-03T17:24:57 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> didn't ninja get replaced with samurai? so it's a symlink or something? 2020-04-03T17:25:42 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://k1ss.org//news/20191031a 2020-04-03T17:45:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> Yes 2020-04-03T17:45:22 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh wops. 2020-04-03T19:46:25 #kisslinux <onodera> I just came across a patch that does apply with gnu patch but not busybox path.... 2020-04-03T19:46:33 #kisslinux <onodera> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/fix-memleak-in-plugin-scanning.patch?h=packages/ladspa 2020-04-03T19:46:45 #kisslinux <onodera> anyone know why? Maybe because it uses tabs and spaces for identation? 2020-04-03T20:22:29 #kisslinux <onodera> anyone? 2020-04-03T20:22:59 #kisslinux <mps> onodera: busybox patch is limited 2020-04-03T20:27:11 #kisslinux <onodera> though what is wrong witht he patch 2020-04-03T20:30:24 #kisslinux <mps> I didn't looked at it 2020-04-03T20:30:25 #kisslinux <onodera> ah got it 2020-04-03T20:30:28 #kisslinux <onodera> fixed the patch 2020-04-03T21:46:07 #kisslinux <claudia> dilyn: your qt.conf works. good job! 2020-04-03T21:48:27 #kisslinux <claudia> but still no integrated adblock :2020-04-03T21:54:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> Glad to hear! I stumbled across a link Dylan had posted and it was almost too easy 2020-04-03T21:54:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> Try and figure out ad stuff next I guess 2020-04-03T21:55:17 #kisslinux <lastchansen> Any news form Dylan? 2020-04-03T22:09:52 #kisslinux <claudia> the last falkon release was this time last year. maybe the next is comming soon (: 2020-04-03T22:14:18 #kisslinux <Histic> hey i’m currently install kiss and perl gives me an error the error is the program compiled OK, but exited with status 127 2020-04-03T22:27:50 #kisslinux <claudia> Histic: on my updated machine, perl builds ok. You may skip perl for building the kernel 2020-04-03T22:27:54 #kisslinux <claudia> theres a patch 2020-04-03T22:37:15 #kisslinux <claudia> dilyn: do you have a hint for what to look for the AD stuff? 2020-04-03T22:42:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> We pull from git for Falkon because their releases are so slow, so I rebuild it every so often when enough commits show up 2020-04-03T22:43:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> No idea about ad block. It even ignores my hosts file, so I'm really stumped as to how it works 2020-04-03T23:01:26 #kisslinux <B3AR> installing kiss and installing grub i get libdevmapper error 2020-04-03T23:36:56 #kisslinux <onodera> when does profile.d actually get executed? 2020-04-03T23:37:03 #kisslinux <onodera> it is not every time you launch a new shell 2020-04-03T23:49:25 #kisslinux <aarng> onodera: /etc/profile (which loads the scripts from profile.d) gets loaded only by login shells 2020-04-03T23:56:04 #kisslinux <onodera> alright 2020-04-03T23:56:04 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks 2020-04-03T23:56:14 #kisslinux <onodera> does anyone here use custom ldflags?