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2020-01-24T02:56:10 #kisslinux <pltrz> E5ten: I think I've got the same problem on Alpineq 2020-01-24T03:23:38 #kisslinux <E5ten> using normal iwd? 2020-01-24T11:28:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I now have 10 cats 2020-01-24T11:35:21 #kisslinux <merakor> That's an adorable chaos 2020-01-24T11:35:23 #kisslinux <merakor> I have 3 2020-01-24T11:36:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's how it starts :P 2020-01-24T11:37:11 #kisslinux <merakor> I had 6 but 3 of them got adopted 2020-01-24T11:37:28 #kisslinux <merakor> My cat was pregnant when we adopted her 2020-01-24T11:38:12 #kisslinux <merakor> I mean 6 was already chaotic, can't imagine 10 2020-01-24T11:38:15 #kisslinux <merakor> How old are they 2020-01-24T11:38:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Uh 2020-01-24T11:38:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All ages, shapes and sizes 2020-01-24T11:38:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Welcome to Greece 2020-01-24T11:39:22 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I thought they were siblings like mine 2020-01-24T11:39:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 3 are siblings 2020-01-24T11:39:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 1 is their mother 2020-01-24T11:40:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 2-3 are possibly their father 2020-01-24T11:40:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 1 is a random baby 2020-01-24T11:40:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And the rest are more random catts 2020-01-24T11:40:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> cats* 2020-01-24T11:40:41 #kisslinux <merakor> That's really nice 2020-01-24T11:42:14 #kisslinux <merakor> Cat food is too expensive in here, I really didn't want to give my cats for adoption. 2020-01-24T11:42:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I buy fish or mince meat 2020-01-24T11:42:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fish is cheap here 2020-01-24T11:43:56 #kisslinux <merakor> Do you live in a seaside city? 2020-01-24T11:44:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> An island 2020-01-24T11:44:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fish is cheap everywhere in Greece though 2020-01-24T11:45:21 #kisslinux <merakor> That's nice, which island? 2020-01-24T11:46:14 #kisslinux <merakor> Fish is cheap in the seaside here, but really expensive in other cities. 2020-01-24T11:46:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Lefkada 2020-01-24T11:47:39 #kisslinux <merakor> Basically the most expensive meat you can have is fish here 2020-01-24T11:47:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Here it's lamb 2020-01-24T11:48:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Pork is cheapest here 2020-01-24T11:48:17 #kisslinux <merakor> So you're not on the Aeagean Side 2020-01-24T11:48:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nope 2020-01-24T11:48:35 #kisslinux <merakor> Chicken is the cheapes there 2020-01-24T11:48:42 #kisslinux <merakor> cheapest* 2020-01-24T11:49:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh yeah, that too. Except for local Chicken which is more expensive. 2020-01-24T11:50:41 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh, pork is much more expensive here 2020-01-24T11:51:25 #kisslinux <merakor> Becuase *muslim* 2020-01-24T11:51:56 #kisslinux <merakor> You can only find them on supermarkets near universities 2020-01-24T11:52:06 #kisslinux <merakor> And they are extremely expensive 2020-01-24T11:52:18 #kisslinux <merakor> Even though they are made here 2020-01-24T11:53:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Where are you located? 2020-01-24T11:53:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Turkey? 2020-01-24T11:53:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Yup 2020-01-24T11:53:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not far away at all :P 2020-01-24T11:53:31 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah :D 2020-01-24T11:53:38 #kisslinux <merakor> I have been to Greece 2020-01-24T11:53:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You should come to Lefkada in the summer 2020-01-24T11:54:24 #kisslinux <merakor> I would love to 2020-01-24T11:54:32 #kisslinux <merakor> I have never been to the Ionian side 2020-01-24T11:55:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can drive to this island lol 2020-01-24T11:55:57 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, it was close to the mainland iirc 2020-01-24T11:56:01 #kisslinux <merakor> Through bridges? 2020-01-24T11:56:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's close to the mainland 2020-01-24T11:56:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> A single bridge 2020-01-24T11:56:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It *was* connected hundreds of years ago 2020-01-24T11:57:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a man made island 2020-01-24T11:57:30 #kisslinux <merakor> Things like that always amaze me 2020-01-24T12:00:29 #kisslinux <merakor> By the way maintainer listing of KISS Community is really wrong for some reason on repology 2020-01-24T12:00:53 #kisslinux <merakor> It says 2bwm is maintained by me 2020-01-24T12:02:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah. 2020-01-24T12:02:08 #kisslinux <merakor> Wow, everything is maintained by me 2020-01-24T12:02:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It goes by last person to make a commit 2020-01-24T12:02:14 #kisslinux <merakor> That was different a few minutes ago 2020-01-24T12:02:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's kinda broken 2020-01-24T12:02:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's going to be replaced though 2020-01-24T12:02:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> With a single feed for the whole repository. 2020-01-24T12:03:04 #kisslinux <merakor> I have made a script that can output every single maintainer for every package 2020-01-24T12:03:35 #kisslinux <merakor> https://termbin.com/3i3k 2020-01-24T12:04:41 #kisslinux <merakor> Could it be useful? 2020-01-24T12:05:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have one too 2020-01-24T12:05:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P 2020-01-24T12:05:10 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh okay :D 2020-01-24T12:05:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I was going to use the CI to output a list somewhere 2020-01-24T12:05:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then repology could use it 2020-01-24T12:05:44 #kisslinux <merakor> That makes sense 2020-01-24T12:05:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> But where do I upload it? 2020-01-24T12:05:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> GitHub actions supports "artifacts" 2020-01-24T12:06:13 #kisslinux <merakor> GitHub actions could be it 2020-01-24T12:06:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The only issue is that 1. You can't programatically get the latest URL. 2. It comes in a .zip 2020-01-24T12:06:26 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh 2020-01-24T12:06:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah 2020-01-24T12:06:37 #kisslinux <merakor> You could upload it to https://getkiss.org/maintainers 2020-01-24T12:07:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I could, only issue is interacing CI with making a commit to kisslinux/website 2020-01-24T12:07:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll look into this 2020-01-24T12:07:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/commit/ffcad57234ccd52aa18fdc9e061564fee1d5f6b4#diff-f5913c1a6e670c30de30ccf94b2b03de 2020-01-24T12:07:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's my script 2020-01-24T12:07:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hardcoded to me while I was testing 2020-01-24T12:07:53 #kisslinux <merakor> Do you host the website on a server you own? 2020-01-24T12:08:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nope, using netlify 2020-01-24T12:08:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It rebuilds each commit automatically 2020-01-24T12:08:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hang on, idea. 2020-01-24T12:08:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P 2020-01-24T12:08:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can do this easy. 2020-01-24T12:09:06 #kisslinux <merakor> javascript? 2020-01-24T12:09:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nope 2020-01-24T12:09:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll show you in 5 mins 2020-01-24T12:09:37 #kisslinux <merakor> Okay :D 2020-01-24T12:11:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: Digging the new CSS btw. 2020-01-24T12:12:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks 2020-01-24T12:12:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I like it too 2020-01-24T12:13:07 #kisslinux <icyphox> Honestly, I want to try switching my whole site to plain-text. 2020-01-24T12:13:11 #kisslinux <icyphox> That'll be fun. 2020-01-24T12:13:17 #kisslinux <aarng-> uuh, this is better 2020-01-24T12:13:27 #kisslinux <icyphox> *my site* 2020-01-24T12:13:32 #kisslinux <icyphox> not the KISS website. 2020-01-24T12:13:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: That's what I wanted to do but you lose out on images/clickable links 2020-01-24T12:14:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is somewhere in the middle :P 2020-01-24T12:14:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> A .txt website would be nic 2020-01-24T12:14:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nice* 2020-01-24T12:14:16 #kisslinux <icyphox> Yeah that's true. 2020-01-24T12:14:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> I wonder if you can serve it as a TXT record. 2020-01-24T12:14:44 #kisslinux <icyphox> But that won't work in browsers, I think. 2020-01-24T12:14:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> Let me see. 2020-01-24T12:16:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> Okay ew, the new Google search UI is piss. 2020-01-24T12:17:09 #kisslinux <merakor> What's different? 2020-01-24T12:17:17 #kisslinux <merakor> Haven't used google for ages 2020-01-24T12:17:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The URL is dead 2020-01-24T12:17:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Results and ads look almost identical 2020-01-24T12:17:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> merakor: search listings are now indistinguishable from ads 2020-01-24T12:18:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> Yeah I don't use Google either, but had to !g from DDG for something. 2020-01-24T12:18:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> DDG isn't much better sadly. 2020-01-24T12:18:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No search engine is 2020-01-24T12:18:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK. Maintainer lists are setup and done 2020-01-24T12:18:51 #kisslinux <merakor> Where? 2020-01-24T12:19:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Each commit to repo/community triggers a rebuild of the website which pulls down each repository and generates the lists 2020-01-24T12:19:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hang on, I broke it 2020-01-24T12:19:36 #kisslinux <merakor> :D 2020-01-24T12:19:38 #kisslinux <icyphox> rop 2020-01-24T12:28:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hm 2020-01-24T12:28:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> netlify might be doing shallow clones by default 2020-01-24T12:28:38 #kisslinux <merakor> You could try the script I sent you 2020-01-24T12:28:49 #kisslinux <merakor> You could unshallow it 2020-01-24T12:28:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm using my script 2020-01-24T12:28:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup 2020-01-24T12:29:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Is there an inverse to --depth=1 2020-01-24T12:29:07 #kisslinux <merakor> at least try to unshallow 2020-01-24T12:29:09 #kisslinux <merakor> yeah 2020-01-24T12:29:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> --depth=all 2020-01-24T12:29:12 #kisslinux <merakor> Wait a sec 2020-01-24T12:29:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm reading the docs now 2020-01-24T12:29:32 #kisslinux <merakor> git fetch --unshallow 2020-01-24T12:30:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK 2020-01-24T12:30:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Lets see 2020-01-24T12:31:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > 2:31:05 PM: fatal: --unshallow on a complete repository does not make sense 2020-01-24T12:31:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Must be my fault. :P 2020-01-24T12:31:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OH 2020-01-24T12:31:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I know 2020-01-24T12:32:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Should be fixed now. 2020-01-24T12:33:41 #kisslinux <merakor> It's not showng multiple maintainers though 2020-01-24T12:33:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://getkiss.org/authors 2020-01-24T12:34:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We don't have multiple maintainers per package 2020-01-24T12:34:21 #kisslinux <merakor> For example, with kiss-maintainers when you do webkitgtk it shows both your name and my name 2020-01-24T12:34:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Separated by <TAB>) 2020-01-24T12:34:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes 2020-01-24T12:34:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It shows latest commit 2020-01-24T12:34:39 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I see now 2020-01-24T12:34:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And only of the ./version file 2020-01-24T12:34:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > community/webkit2gtkCem Keylancem⊙cc 2020-01-24T12:34:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P 2020-01-24T12:35:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can put this info on a webpage on the site now too. 2020-01-24T12:37:33 #kisslinux <merakor> the cemkeylan⊙ungc irritates me so much :D 2020-01-24T12:38:16 #kisslinux <merakor> But the last time I made my mail open to github, my mailbox was filled with spam. 2020-01-24T12:38:31 #kisslinux <merakor> And I hadn't received a single spam mail before that date 2020-01-24T12:39:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I love the spam 2020-01-24T12:40:07 #kisslinux <merakor> I hate it so much and my spamassassin is broken for some reason. 2020-01-24T12:40:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "Hello my dear friends" .... "I am dying" ... "$1,000,000,000" ... "Regards, Salman of Saudi Arabia 2020-01-24T12:40:30 #kisslinux <merakor> At one point I blacklisted gmail.com entirely, still received mails from gmail.com 2020-01-24T12:40:33 #kisslinux <icyphox> Really? I don't really get any spam. 2020-01-24T12:40:38 #kisslinux <merakor> Ah yes the niger prince 2020-01-24T12:40:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> I self-host my mail. So far so good. 2020-01-24T12:40:59 #kisslinux <icyphox> Maybe I'm just not popular enough on GitHub. 2020-01-24T12:41:01 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, I received my first spam mail 5 minutes after giving github my mail. 2020-01-24T12:41:02 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol 2020-01-24T12:41:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Or your spam-assassin works :D 2020-01-24T12:42:44 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: I wish, I received mails like that 2020-01-24T12:42:50 #kisslinux <merakor> I just receive random mumbo jumbo 2020-01-24T12:43:08 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't even understand what they are sending me 2020-01-24T12:43:31 #kisslinux <merakor> > Recover your ranks with our Monthly SEO plans 2020-01-24T12:43:37 #kisslinux <merakor> What does that even mean? 2020-01-24T12:43:55 #kisslinux <merakor> > gov backlinks for ckyln.com 2020-01-24T12:44:17 #kisslinux <merakor> > negative seo that works 2020-01-24T12:45:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > 2020-01-24T12:45:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Security Alert! 2020-01-24T12:45:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Your Chase account has been disabled! 2020-01-24T12:45:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Please sign in through the "Review Account Activity" link below 2020-01-24T12:45:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Chase Online<postmaster⊙mvc> 2020-01-24T12:45:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh 2020-01-24T12:46:07 #kisslinux <merakor> That's still good phishing 2020-01-24T12:46:15 #kisslinux <merakor> Mine is literal garbage 2020-01-24T12:46:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Unsubscribe 2020-01-24T12:46:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> How nice of them 2020-01-24T12:46:58 #kisslinux <merakor> Still better than most mailing lists 2020-01-24T12:47:11 #kisslinux <merakor> 9/10 would subscribe 2020-01-24T12:52:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Just as I thought. No actual simplicity, just some neckbeards complaining about software evolving in the last 20 years. 2020-01-24T12:52:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is my favourite KISS comment now 2020-01-24T12:59:35 #kisslinux <merakor> This is from reddit, right? 2020-01-24T13:01:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hackernews 2020-01-24T13:01:35 #kisslinux <merakor> The typical systemd lover 2020-01-24T13:01:52 #kisslinux <merakor> Thinking new means good 2020-01-24T13:03:13 #kisslinux <merakor> Neither busybox nor sinit is old anyways 2020-01-24T13:05:08 #kisslinux <icyphox> I feel like jumping ship to BSD. 2020-01-24T13:05:16 #kisslinux <icyphox> Linux is a lost cause tbvh. 2020-01-24T13:06:00 #kisslinux <icyphox> OpenBSD looks very promising, and iw (?) supports my wireless card. 2020-01-24T13:07:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> busybox started December 1999 2020-01-24T13:07:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Older than I thought 2020-01-24T13:07:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> BSD is no better 2020-01-24T13:07:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Technology is a sinking ship 2020-01-24T13:07:56 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah I would prefer Linux over BSD 2020-01-24T13:07:56 #kisslinux <megabite> ^ 2020-01-24T13:08:02 #kisslinux <icyphox> But the OpenBSD code base is pretty clean though? 2020-01-24T13:08:15 #kisslinux <icyphox> Like, clean enough to contribute if you wanted to. 2020-01-24T13:08:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> Linux however, will be a research project. 2020-01-24T13:08:49 #kisslinux <megabite> is llvm clean, clang, X, Firefox, chrome? 2020-01-24T13:08:54 #kisslinux <merakor> It is cleaner because people don't contribute, because it is not GPL. 2020-01-24T13:09:19 #kisslinux <merakor> Also since people don't contribute, it is hard to be used for your desktop. 2020-01-24T13:09:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS will stay how it is now for as long as possible. ;) 2020-01-24T13:09:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No jumping to the next new shiny thing the moment it is available 2020-01-24T13:09:57 #kisslinux <icyphox> merakor: OpenBSD? I know a good amount of people using it as their desktop OS. 2020-01-24T13:09:57 #kisslinux <merakor> I mean, my desktop cannot run BSD because of the lack of driver and firmwares 2020-01-24T13:10:05 #kisslinux <icyphox> Ah. 2020-01-24T13:10:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: Same 2020-01-24T13:10:10 #kisslinux <icyphox> No it's obvs not for everyone. 2020-01-24T13:10:18 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm lucky that it supports my hw. 2020-01-24T13:10:46 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, lots of people on suckless mailing list uses OpenBSD 2020-01-24T13:10:55 #kisslinux <merakor> s/uses/use/ 2020-01-24T13:11:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Linux has done more harm to the BSDs than good I've found 2020-01-24T13:11:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Firefox on OpenBSD requires dbus etc 2020-01-24T13:11:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> As an example 2020-01-24T13:11:16 #kisslinux <megabite> yeah 2020-01-24T13:11:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also, all distributions/bsds use Google/Mozilla APIs for their Firefox/Chromium builds! 2020-01-24T13:11:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Baked into the builds 2020-01-24T13:12:04 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: also gnu 2020-01-24T13:12:31 #kisslinux <merakor> But to be honest GNU has done harm on Linux as well 2020-01-24T13:12:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Here's an example from Arch: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/firefox#n32 2020-01-24T13:13:01 #kisslinux <icyphox> What's it used for dylanaraps? 2020-01-24T13:13:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gentoo: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/www-client/firefox/firefox-72.0.2.ebuild#n322 2020-01-24T13:13:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/api-keys 2020-01-24T13:17:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Void: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/master/srcpkgs/firefox/template#L59 2020-01-24T13:18:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Even Debian!!: https://salsa.debian.org/mozilla-team/firefox/blob/release/master/debian/google.key 2020-01-24T13:18:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://salsa.debian.org/mozilla-team/firefox/blob/release/master/debian/mls.key 2020-01-24T13:19:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also: https://lwn.net/Articles/570485/ 2020-01-24T13:21:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > "You will require your end users to comply with any applicable law and these terms." That seems to indicate that Debian would, somehow, need to require its users to agree to Google's ToS 2020-01-24T14:05:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > https://getkiss.org/packages 2020-01-24T14:05:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Tada 2020-01-24T14:06:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Full repository info 2020-01-24T14:06:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hang on, changing url to /pkgdb as I want /packages for a page :^) 2020-01-24T14:07:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://getkiss.org/pkgdb 2020-01-24T14:07:42 #kisslinux <icyphox> Nice! 2020-01-24T14:08:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup 2020-01-24T14:08:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Next is a full package list page 2020-01-24T14:09:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This updates in realtime too 2020-01-24T14:10:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You could write some nice scripts around this (checking for updates without pulling from git) 2020-01-24T14:12:27 #kisslinux <dzove855> hoon that's nice. Is it generated automatically? 2020-01-24T14:12:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah 2020-01-24T14:13:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> On each commit to either repository 2020-01-24T14:13:21 #kisslinux <dzove855> that are good news :D 2020-01-24T14:13:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> On commit, a build is triggered for the website and all of the magic happens 2020-01-24T14:16:28 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: can you look into if eiwd with latest ell is been for you too? 2020-01-24T14:17:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah 2020-01-24T14:17:11 #kisslinux <E5ten> Broken* 2020-01-24T14:17:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What's broken again? DNS? 2020-01-24T14:18:05 #kisslinux <E5ten> I think so 2020-01-24T14:18:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New url for the db file: https://getkiss.org/packages/db 2020-01-24T14:18:39 #kisslinux <E5ten> If I try to ping I get the "temporary failure in name resolution" thing 2020-01-24T14:18:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Last time I change it 2020-01-24T14:18:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> E5ten: OK, will try 2020-01-24T14:47:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > sed -i "s🐱%%PKG%%🐱$(cat)🐱" packages/index.html 2020-01-24T14:47:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :^) 2020-01-24T14:47:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is great 2020-01-24T14:49:54 #kisslinux <E5ten> Crimes against humanity right here 2020-01-24T14:50:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can't get iwd to build 2020-01-24T14:50:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> autoshit issue 2020-01-24T14:50:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'ell/util.c', needed by 'ell/util.lo'. Stop. 2020-01-24T14:50:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll swap it to use cmake in a sec 2020-01-24T14:50:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Is the latest ELL alright? 2020-01-24T14:50:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not git, the release 2020-01-24T14:51:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > sed: unmatched '�' 2020-01-24T14:51:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My input to sed is too large me thinks 2020-01-24T14:53:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Awk it is 2020-01-24T14:54:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> bye cats :( 2020-01-24T14:58:39 #kisslinux <E5ten> I think latest release should also break cuz the commit it breaks on for me is before that release 2020-01-24T14:58:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK 2020-01-24T15:02:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > sed -i '/%%PKG%%/r /dev/stdin' packages/index.html 2020-01-24T15:02:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nic 2020-01-24T15:02:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> e 2020-01-24T15:05:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> A thought, maybe it's cuz of the emoji being multibyte and maybe cuz of that sed thinks it's more than one character and that's somehow fucking it up? 2020-01-24T15:06:27 #kisslinux <E5ten> Or did you also try with a single byte delimiter? 2020-01-24T15:06:52 #kisslinux <aarng-> what is this for? 2020-01-24T15:06:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I also tried with single byte. 2020-01-24T15:07:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://getkiss.org/packages/ 2020-01-24T15:07:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's up but not linked anywhere yet. 2020-01-24T15:08:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Need to display the data in a better way (This collapses bad on mobile) 2020-01-24T15:09:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to add the date of the data too 2020-01-24T15:10:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > c6cb1b199598c572484fb4e30e1026be9d4ccc31 2020-01-24T15:10:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Truncating versions is a good idea too 2020-01-24T15:13:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The main purpose of exporting the database is to free Repology from doing git clones of our repositories 2020-01-24T15:13:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They've had to swap to full clones as our maintainer info *is* 'git log'. 2020-01-24T15:13:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This reduces the burden to a single parseable file. 2020-01-24T15:13:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This /packages page is a bonus :^) 2020-01-24T15:36:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS maintainers are up on Repology. https://repology.org/maintainers/ 2020-01-24T15:36:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Search for your email in the link above. 2020-01-24T15:36:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Example: https://repology.org/maintainer/dylan.araps%40gmail.com 2020-01-24T15:36:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can now subscribe to a feed of your packages to be notified when they're out of date. 2020-01-24T15:46:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Packages page is now done. https://getkiss.org/packages/ 2020-01-24T15:46:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Lookin' good 2020-01-24T16:20:19 #kisslinux <monochromal> o/ 2020-01-24T16:23:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> hello 2020-01-24T16:24:15 #kisslinux <monochromal> hi, it's just me, lieuxnoir lol 2020-01-24T16:24:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol 2020-01-24T16:25:43 #kisslinux <monochromal> i didn't really dig that name haha 2020-01-24T16:29:00 #kisslinux <monochromal> and btw, i now have a site lol 2020-01-24T16:29:02 #kisslinux <monochromal> https://mnchr.ml 2020-01-24T16:30:23 #kisslinux <monochromal> i meant a bearable domain, 'cause i was using the default netlify one 2020-01-24T16:36:54 #kisslinux <monochromal> dylanaraps: thanks a lot to you btw 2020-01-24T16:43:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> np :) 2020-01-24T16:57:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Now it's done https://getkiss.org/packages/ 2020-01-24T16:58:49 #kisslinux <monochromal> i feel like setroot is a dead project 2020-01-24T17:02:54 #kisslinux <aarng-> really neat, dylanaraps (/packages and the repology integration) 2020-01-24T17:03:23 #kisslinux <aarng-> so far I've been relying on githubs watch functionality 2020-01-24T17:03:48 #kisslinux <aarng-> and was happy I only have one pkg which is not on github 2020-01-24T17:38:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> aarng-: Yeah, this will hopefully make it easier for everyone 2020-01-24T18:35:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb 2020-01-24T20:45:05 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: Can you mention me on that issue page? I should export package information as well, but I don't have my computer with me at the moment. 2020-01-24T20:46:25 #kisslinux <merakor> Maintainer name isn't really an issue but them having to clone the repository is really a burden. 2020-01-24T20:48:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/repology/repology-updater/issues/994 2020-01-24T20:54:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: See: https://github.com/repology/repology-webapp/issues/112 2020-01-24T20:54:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Note: If maintainers isn't an issue, repology will do shallow clones 2020-01-24T20:56:28 #kisslinux <mforney> working on fixing some long-standing musl incompatibilities in firefox/chromium. two down so far: https://chromium.googlesource.com/linux-syscall-support/+/f70e2f1641e280e777edfdad7f73a2cfa38139c7%5E%21/ https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/6bd491daaf28a8281136931133504c23a18f819f%5E%21/ 2020-01-24T20:57:01 #kisslinux <mforney> not sure how frequently firefox pulls updates to those components downstream though 2020-01-24T20:59:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice! 2020-01-24T21:01:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS uses a patch for the second link (though it's different). We don't patch anything related to the first link though. 2020-01-24T21:01:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (From 68.X.X to 73.X.Xb) 2020-01-24T21:03:28 #kisslinux <mforney> it's a better fix for https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/blob/master/extra/firefox/patches/fix-toolkit.patch#L50-L53 2020-01-24T21:04:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah, gotcha. I missed that in my skimming of our patches. 2020-01-24T21:05:15 #kisslinux <Guest88> oooo/ just had a win and got wifi working on kiss '=D 2020-01-24T21:05:45 #kisslinux <mforney> the issue is not missing __NR_pread (which is suggested by the error message), but unintended macro replacement in LSS_NAME(pread64) 2020-01-24T21:06:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1041962 2020-01-24T21:06:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I see you've commented here too :P 2020-01-24T21:07:00 #kisslinux <mforney> it's really frustrating that such a simple bug with a patch has gone unfixed for 6 years 2020-01-24T21:07:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup 2020-01-24T21:07:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've been watching it for a while 2020-01-24T21:09:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'd like to see this fixed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1561207 2020-01-24T21:09:15 #kisslinux <mforney> i wonder if submitting a patch via their phabricator might have better success 2020-01-24T21:10:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Well, my patches rip out the audio ipc feature which broke --disable-dbus 2020-01-24T21:11:03 #kisslinux <mforney> yeah, i'm currently applying your patch to remove audio_thread_priority 2020-01-24T21:11:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> afaik, their build system can't do conditional dependencies via cargo yet(??) 2020-01-24T21:26:33 #kisslinux <Guest88> guys - when should i be running kiss update as normal user and when as root? 2020-01-24T21:26:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Only as a normal user 2020-01-24T21:27:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The package manager will prompt to elevate permissions if needed 2020-01-24T21:28:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Only to pull down the changes and then later on to install the updates) 2020-01-24T21:28:13 #kisslinux <Guest88> ok. it spams me saying root required but completes ok 2020-01-24T21:28:21 #kisslinux <Guest88> usually 2020-01-24T21:28:51 #kisslinux <Guest88> sometimes it doesn't and just fails and I need to rerun as root 2020-01-24T21:29:17 #kisslinux <Guest88> doesn't prompt to elevate permissions 2020-01-24T21:30:01 #kisslinux <Guest88> always on a big packages so I kinda gotten into the habit of running as root 2020-01-24T21:30:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It should always prompt if needed, see: https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/master/kiss#L879-L894 2020-01-24T21:30:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If you optionally install 'sudo' it'll only ask for the password once 2020-01-24T21:31:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Auth is cached for a period of time) 2020-01-24T21:31:11 #kisslinux <Guest88> ok - I'll revisit this next time it happens 2020-01-24T21:31:27 #kisslinux <Guest88> i run as su . no sudo installed 2020-01-24T21:31:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Same here (no sudo) 2020-01-24T21:32:13 #kisslinux <periish> hello 2020-01-24T21:32:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> doas is also supported (though the default config sets no timeout) 2020-01-24T21:32:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hello 2020-01-24T21:32:38 #kisslinux <periish> you just invited me here haha 2020-01-24T21:32:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah 2020-01-24T21:32:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P 2020-01-24T21:32:50 #kisslinux <periish> yup 2020-01-24T21:33:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm happy to answer any questions you may have 2020-01-24T21:33:19 #kisslinux <Guest88> thx Dylan for clarifying. I only run as normal user from now on and see how it goes 2020-01-24T21:33:25 #kisslinux <periish> thank you! 2020-01-24T21:33:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Guest88: No problem. I'll look into making this process easier. (Maybe password once at the start and it drops permissions for builds) 2020-01-24T21:34:16 #kisslinux <periish> big fan of your work btw 2020-01-24T21:34:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks 2020-01-24T21:34:35 #kisslinux <periish> pywal, neofetch, pfetch, etc are all great tools 2020-01-24T21:34:45 #kisslinux <periish> was surprised to find out they were all made by the same person 2020-01-24T21:36:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Heh, it's been 6 years since I started on GitHub now 2020-01-24T21:36:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't believe it myself 2020-01-24T21:36:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Actually, 5 years(?)) 2020-01-24T21:36:49 #kisslinux <Guest88> dylanaraps the process isn't difficult just annoying when it fails due to permissions 3/4 of the way through a firefox build for example 2020-01-24T21:37:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Guest88: Yeah, though it should pick up where it left off. Still not ideal, I know. 2020-01-24T21:37:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My idea mentioned above will fix this. 2020-01-24T21:37:58 #kisslinux <Guest88> no worries. all good 2020-01-24T21:38:36 #kisslinux <periish> quick question: will you be supporting wayland "officially" whenever it can run without xorg? 2020-01-24T21:39:08 #kisslinux <periish> greetings 2020-01-24T21:39:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> periish: Wayland can run without Xorg now if it suits your needs. 2020-01-24T21:40:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nothing stops a user from packaging it for themselves or providing it in a user repository either. 2020-01-24T21:40:38 #kisslinux <periish> I heard your reasoning for not including wayland(in a reddit post, so this may be less accurate) was it needed xorg to run, so that's what I'm basing my assumptions on. I've not had experience with Wayland, as I'm currently perfectly happy with X 2020-01-24T21:41:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> periish: You'll need both packaged and installed to fill the gaps in Wayland, yeah 2020-01-24T21:41:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> For example; applications which do not yet support Wayland. 2020-01-24T21:41:58 #kisslinux <periish> Ah, fair 2020-01-24T21:42:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All of the pieces are in place for someone to package it though. 2020-01-24T21:42:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's no lock-in with Xorg in KISS 2020-01-24T21:43:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (No lock-in with anything if you're willing) 2020-01-24T21:45:15 #kisslinux <periish> Yup, that's one of the benefits of KISS 2020-01-24T21:45:18 #kisslinux <periish> nothing locked down 2020-01-24T21:51:45 #kisslinux <periish> I'll be off then, having a tab open in firefox for too long bugs me 2020-01-24T21:51:48 #kisslinux <periish> goodbye 2020-01-24T21:52:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alrighty 2020-01-24T21:52:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ciao 2020-01-24T21:59:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Guest88: Started work on it here: https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/pull/91 2020-01-24T22:01:13 #kisslinux <Guest88> dylanaraps: Great.