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2019-10-12T00:00:29 #kisslinux <nestman> im so understanding code
2019-10-12T00:00:54 #kisslinux <nestman> im so *bad at* understanding code
2019-10-12T00:01:43 #kisslinux <nestman> @dylanaraps where can i find the function for moving/resizing windows in `sowm`?
2019-10-12T00:05:55 #kisslinux <nestman> nvm i saw it already haha
2019-10-12T00:24:50 #kisslinux <eyepatchOwl> I also just noticed the new site. I also like it and the new logo better. I love how the testimonials include reasons to not use it, although the ones which refer to the old logo can probably be dropped.
2019-10-12T00:26:24 #kisslinux <KayW> howdy
2019-10-12T01:21:21 #kisslinux <HiddenOne> I am currently running "kiss build" in a VM, and it has been running for 2 hours, is this normal?
2019-10-12T01:42:28 #kisslinux <konimex> HiddenOne: VM? Yes. Especially if you only use 1-core processor
2019-10-12T01:43:14 #kisslinux <HiddenOne> ok. how long do you think it would typically take? I have 1-core and 3GB memory.
2019-10-12T01:45:13 #kisslinux <konimex> depends, which package is being built?
2019-10-12T01:46:35 #kisslinux <HiddenOne> just "kiss build". I'm installing it.
2019-10-12T01:47:55 #kisslinux <konimex> gcc, et. al. probably at least 5 hours
2019-10-12T01:48:00 #kisslinux <konimex> *at least*
2019-10-12T01:48:54 #kisslinux <HiddenOne> ah well then I'm in for a long wait.
2019-10-12T01:48:58 #kisslinux <HiddenOne> thanks for the help.
2019-10-12T07:00:54 #kisslinux <nestman> dylanaraps : will you be adding keyboard driven moving/resizing of windows?
2019-10-12T07:51:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nestman: nope
2019-10-12T07:55:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Emacs is surprisingly simple to package: https://github.com/kisslinux/community/pull/47/files
2019-10-12T09:25:42 #kisslinux <Crestwave> dylanaraps: By the way, pfetch doesn't work on plain Android unless run as root because it can't access the tmpdir, which is used for heredocs
2019-10-12T09:26:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> So you could either set TMPDIR to somewhere else or don't use heredocs
2019-10-12T09:26:45 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Also, it's kind of weird that it still lists the Pkgs line when there are none, but it's not a big issue
2019-10-12T09:35:17 #kisslinux <Crestwave> It's cool that Android's tools seem to be fairly POSIX-compliant now, though
2019-10-12T09:36:50 #kisslinux <Crestwave> The one complicated POSIX sh program I tried on my old phone didn't work, so I lost hope in it, but it works in more recent versions
2019-10-12T09:38:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Oh, and I found the difference with `getarch` and `uname -p` on Haiku
2019-10-12T09:39:39 #kisslinux <Crestwave> On x86_64, they both output it, but on x86_gcc2 and x86, `uname -p` outputs BePC for them both while `getarch` outputs them. Don't know if it's something you should switch to for pfetch, though
2019-10-12T12:36:40 #kisslinux <axpira> How can I change timezone?
2019-10-12T12:44:42 #kisslinux <jeckusy> im trying to install kiss from a live cd but everything is failing
2019-10-12T12:45:56 #kisslinux <Crestwave> axpira: Try relinking /etc/localtime to the desired timezone in /usr/share/zoneinfo
2019-10-12T12:46:22 #kisslinux <Crestwave> jeckusy: "everything"? Can you give an example?
2019-10-12T12:46:32 #kisslinux <jeckusy> the first error i get is from using tar xvf kiss-chroot.tar.xz -C /mnt --strip-components 1
2019-10-12T12:46:45 #kisslinux <Crestwave> What's the error?
2019-10-12T12:46:48 #kisslinux <jeckusy> i get: tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
2019-10-12T12:47:10 #kisslinux <Crestwave> What are the previous errors?
2019-10-12T12:47:16 #kisslinux <jeckusy> yea good question
2019-10-12T12:47:21 #kisslinux <Crestwave> So it doesn't say anything?
2019-10-12T12:47:24 #kisslinux <Crestwave> *else
2019-10-12T12:47:24 #kisslinux <axpira> Crestwave: This directory don't exist /usr/share/zoneinfo
2019-10-12T12:47:36 #kisslinux <jeckusy> i only get that
2019-10-12T12:47:42 #kisslinux <jeckusy> can i ignore it ?
2019-10-12T12:48:52 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Doesn't seem like a good idea, but I dunno
2019-10-12T12:48:58 #kisslinux <jeckusy> i also get this w/bin/sh: mesg: not foundhile trying to get into chroot :
2019-10-12T12:50:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> axpira: There's a tzdata package in extra. Try installing it
2019-10-12T12:51:09 #kisslinux <jeckusy> idk whats wrong ... i created partitions and mounted them
2019-10-12T12:51:27 #kisslinux <Crestwave> What livecd are you using?
2019-10-12T12:51:51 #kisslinux <jeckusy> its called systemrescuecd-6.0.3
2019-10-12T12:52:46 #kisslinux <axpira> Crestwave: need to install tzdata before , thanks
2019-10-12T12:52:59 #kisslinux <Crestwave> np
2019-10-12T12:54:25 #kisslinux <Crestwave> jeckusy: Did you verify the checksum of the tarball?
2019-10-12T12:55:15 #kisslinux <jeckusy> yea the sha256sum worked , but fot the gpg verify it said : no public key
2019-10-12T12:56:29 #kisslinux <Crestwave> That should be fine
2019-10-12T12:58:12 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Try just doing a tar xvf kiss-chroot.tar.gz, maybe, assuming that you have enough RAM
2019-10-12T12:58:35 #kisslinux <Crestwave> The chroot seems to be pretty small
2019-10-12T12:59:08 #kisslinux <jeckusy> i have 8Gb ram
2019-10-12T12:59:29 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Should be more than enough to store the chroot. Try it
2019-10-12T13:01:00 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Oh, just noticed the v in the extraction command. Try removing it, that's probably why you didn't see any previous errors
2019-10-12T13:01:52 #kisslinux <jeckusy> there are some errors with : theres no space left on device
2019-10-12T13:01:53 #kisslinux <jeckusy> lol
2019-10-12T13:03:54 #kisslinux <Crestwave> When you removed the v?
2019-10-12T13:04:02 #kisslinux <jeckusy> yes
2019-10-12T13:04:15 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Great, that's what I guessed, which is why I told you to try extracting it elsewhere. :P
2019-10-12T13:05:21 #kisslinux <jeckusy> idk where i should extract it
2019-10-12T13:06:48 #kisslinux <Crestwave> ? The no space left error was when extracting to /mnt, right?
2019-10-12T13:07:09 #kisslinux <Crestwave> If so, umount the partition and make it bigger
2019-10-12T13:07:19 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Then extract the tarball to it again
2019-10-12T13:10:59 #kisslinux <jeckusz> sry my computer crashed
2019-10-12T13:11:11 #kisslinux <jeckusz> this livecd is not good
2019-10-12T13:11:19 #kisslinux <Crestwave> lol
2019-10-12T13:11:52 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Did you see my messages (last one about extracting the tarball)?
2019-10-12T13:14:29 #kisslinux <jeckusy> it crashed again .. i give up sry
2019-10-12T13:14:39 #kisslinux <jeckusy> kiss linux is not for me xd
2019-10-12T13:15:24 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I thought it was the fault of your livecd?
2019-10-12T13:15:42 #kisslinux <Crestwave> You could just use a better one. But yeah, kiss isn't for everyone
2019-10-12T13:16:13 #kisslinux <jeckusy> yea, why dont you make it for everyone
2019-10-12T13:17:09 #kisslinux <Crestwave> You can't please everyone. And this distribution is meant to be simple in the definition of the author; he won't compromise that to make it appropriate for other people
2019-10-12T13:21:50 #kisslinux <jeckusy> there are way to much distros out there ... someone should build THE one linux distro which can compete with macos or windows. i dont see the point in building more and more unstable distros with no real future
2019-10-12T13:51:21 #kisslinux <wildefyr> xckd927
2019-10-12T14:16:47 #kisslinux <raiz> that'll use appimages and snap
2019-10-12T14:17:09 #kisslinux <raiz> cute gnome desktop with flat icons
2019-10-12T14:17:33 #kisslinux <raiz> with an app store
2019-10-12T14:17:51 #kisslinux <raiz> but it'll break so often and be unusable
2019-10-12T14:17:59 #kisslinux <raiz> ubuntu in a nut shell
2019-10-12T14:18:47 #kisslinux <raiz> you try mounting external disk with the graphical utility.. you unlock the luks container and activate the lvms...
2019-10-12T14:19:14 #kisslinux <raiz> but when you'd like to unmount, you can't deactivate lvms using the graphical utility so you'd have to use the terminal anyway
2019-10-12T14:19:15 #kisslinux <raiz> lol
2019-10-12T14:19:26 #kisslinux <raiz> oh well
2019-10-12T14:19:28 #kisslinux <raiz> nvm
2019-10-12T14:19:31 #kisslinux <raiz> </rant>
2019-10-12T15:39:06 #kisslinux <dithpri> I have this weird problem
2019-10-12T15:39:25 #kisslinux <dithpri> Where upon booting the screen flashes "[smth] GRUB [smth]"
2019-10-12T15:39:30 #kisslinux <dithpri> And then the computer resets
2019-10-12T15:46:04 #kisslinux <dithpri> Google gives me nothing but people with similar issues from a few years
2019-10-12T15:46:10 #kisslinux <dithpri> Who managed to magically resolve it
2019-10-12T17:11:14 #kisslinux <dithpri> Ok, this looks like a btrfs subvolume issue
2019-10-12T17:11:29 #kisslinux <dithpri> I've managed to boot from an external usb
2019-10-12T17:14:01 #kisslinux <dithpri> I still can't boot *without* the external bootloader though
2019-10-12T17:14:35 #kisslinux <dithpri> Looks like it's not btrfs-related then
2019-10-12T18:00:17 #kisslinux <dithpri> I caught the message, it says "GRUB Loading..." and then reboots
2019-10-12T18:00:37 #kisslinux <dithpri> from searching the logs someone already had this issue
2019-10-12T18:22:20 #kisslinux <dithpri> huh
2019-10-12T18:22:29 #kisslinux <dithpri> I've just done
2019-10-12T18:22:46 #kisslinux <dithpri> kiss b grub && kiss i grub && grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
2019-10-12T18:22:49 #kisslinux <dithpri> and it worked
2019-10-12T18:23:02 #kisslinux <dithpri> I guess it's a chroot problem then
2019-10-12T18:23:07 #kisslinux <dithpri> (and/or btrfs)