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From: Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid>
Subject: Re: Gemini client for legacy systems.
Date: 12 Dec 2022 11:51:01 +1000
Message-ID: <63968905@news.ausics.net>
Pepinno The Great <pepinno@thinkpad.naleco.com.nospam> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>Pepinno The Great <pepinno@thinkpad.naleco.com.nospam> wrote:
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>> What kind of retro protocol is that which cannot be run on retro
>> machines? Gemini can get a ride, for all I care.
>
>Technically TLS 1.2 or higher doesn't rule out a 486, just Debian
>2.2 Potato (and even then you might be able to compile recent
>OpenSSL libraries for that yourself with a bit of work). A 486 can
>still run current Linux kernel releases, and with a bit of work you
I'm not interested on the contortions of running a current Linux kernel
on a vintage machine, but I'm interested on retro-computing which
implies using period-correct software with old hardware.
Gemini didn't exist when Debian 2.2 Potato was released, so that
rules it out with your period-correct software requirement before
we even get to TLS anyway.
>Really though, I don't think Gemini is supposed to be a "retro
>protocol", meerly a modern-day alternative to the current WWW.
A modern day alternative to the current WWW already exists: just disable
JavaScript on your web browser and you get exactly that. Just consider
web pages that work in that state "the alternative web", and pages that
don't work in that state "the bloated web".
Ain't no need of a new protocol to get that "alternative WWW".
I hope the Gemini project finds a way to accommodate for retro machines.
If in your case that means changing Gemini into something compatible
with period-correct software (such as a sub-set of HTTP), I think
that's rather a bizarre hope at this late stage. Just use a
Gemini-HTTP proxy website for browsing and stick your own content
on Gopher or HTTP instead.
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