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2021-03-29T00:18:24 #kisslinux <acheam> I wonder if the FSF has a statement on this
2021-03-29T00:36:32 #kisslinux <riteo> gtg, bye!
2021-03-29T01:32:26 #kisslinux <AndroUser> Hello world
2021-03-29T01:41:17 #kisslinux <acheam> hi AndroUser
2021-03-29T01:42:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ehlo
2021-03-29T01:43:16 #kisslinux <dilynm> Hallo
2021-03-29T05:43:04 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-03-29T05:55:56 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> helo
2021-03-29T08:24:48 #kisslinux <claudia02> hola.
2021-03-29T08:33:23 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> hola
2021-03-29T15:22:20 #kisslinux <dilynm> Something something
2021-03-29T15:22:21 #kisslinux <dilynm> https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/113838
2021-03-29T15:22:24 #kisslinux <dilynm> Php bad
2021-03-29T15:25:57 #kisslinux <acheam> i can assure you that this wouldn't happen to a glorious self hosted kiss git repo
2021-03-29T15:26:36 #kisslinux <acheam> new song, word!
2021-03-29T15:44:40 #kisslinux <kiedtl> The albatross of KISS is Dylan's guiding spirit manifesting itself within dilynm
2021-03-29T15:53:01 #kisslinux <dilynm> kekw
2021-03-29T15:56:52 #kisslinux <icy> Hey everyone -- it's bin a minute. How are things?
2021-03-29T15:56:58 #kisslinux <icy> been* wew
2021-03-29T15:59:15 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> good
2021-03-29T16:00:04 #kisslinux <icy> Cool. Anyone heard from Dylan?
2021-03-29T16:00:11 #kisslinux <icy> Miss that dude.
2021-03-29T16:01:07 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> nope
2021-03-29T16:02:51 #kisslinux <icy> Damn.
2021-03-29T16:04:18 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Hey icy
2021-03-29T16:04:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I see you lost your tail
2021-03-29T16:04:34 #kisslinux <icy> Yo kiedtl, how's it going?
2021-03-29T16:04:38 #kisslinux <icy> My tail?
2021-03-29T16:04:45 #kisslinux <kiedtl> phox
2021-03-29T16:04:47 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> phox
2021-03-29T16:04:47 #kisslinux <icy> lol
2021-03-29T16:05:11 #kisslinux <icy> Yeah I stopped using that wherever I can. 'icy' is small and clean.
2021-03-29T16:05:22 #kisslinux <icy> Even managed to snag 'icy' on HN.
2021-03-29T16:05:25 #kisslinux <kiedtl> nm, cleaning up backyard. Still not done despite three trips to the local junkyard with a rented 7x14 trailer.
2021-03-29T16:05:48 #kisslinux <icy> testuser_[m]: Do I know you?
2021-03-29T16:05:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> getting a three-letter username on HN is quite a feat
2021-03-29T16:06:06 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Too bad someone grabbed all the 3l ones on reddit
2021-03-29T16:06:09 #kisslinux <icy> Yup. Lucky for me, it was dead. No activity.
2021-03-29T16:06:25 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> icy: no
2021-03-29T16:06:26 #kisslinux <icy> Wrote to dang, and he gave it to me. Hue.
2021-03-29T16:06:39 #kisslinux <icy> testuser_[m]: How do you know that I'm icyphox then? lol
2021-03-29T16:06:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Oh, so one can grab dead accounts? Maybe I'll be able to recover my 'kiedtl' username wew
2021-03-29T16:06:55 #kisslinux <icy> You can, email dang@
2021-03-29T16:07:02 #kisslinux <kiedtl> nice, thanks
2021-03-29T16:07:14 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I had created the account and loss the pass before I set an email lol
2021-03-29T16:07:19 #kisslinux <kiedtl> s/loss/lost
2021-03-29T16:07:20 #kisslinux <kissbot> <kiedtl> I had created the account and lost the pass before I set an email lol
2021-03-29T16:07:23 #kisslinux <icy> Heh.
2021-03-29T16:07:31 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i saw your name in the logs months back, that's where i remember it from
2021-03-29T16:07:38 #kisslinux <icy> Ah I see.
2021-03-29T16:08:10 #kisslinux <icy> kiedtl: Are you on KISS at the moment?
2021-03-29T16:08:46 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> someone else saw dylan's github pic change march 26?
2021-03-29T16:09:22 #kisslinux <dilynm> Hey icy!
2021-03-29T16:09:27 #kisslinux <dilynm> I don't think it changed...
2021-03-29T16:09:29 #kisslinux <acheam> M4R10zM0113R: did it?
2021-03-29T16:09:32 #kisslinux <acheam> it looks the same to me
2021-03-29T16:09:52 #kisslinux <icy> It didn't? I've been checking his account pretty frequently.
2021-03-29T16:09:59 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ^^
2021-03-29T16:10:05 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> yeah
2021-03-29T16:10:12 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> its the same
2021-03-29T16:10:26 #kisslinux <icy> Hey dilynm! Good work keeping this thing alive mate.
2021-03-29T16:10:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> icy: I am, sadly, not using kiss at the moment (I'm on armv6 and building pkgs on a raspi are way too slow), but I did use kiss at one point before my hdd died :V
2021-03-29T16:11:04 #kisslinux <acheam> :gasp:
2021-03-29T16:11:05 #kisslinux <icy> Ah, I see.
2021-03-29T16:11:24 #kisslinux <icy> I haven't used KISS in more than a year now. OpenBSD is endgame for me. :^)
2021-03-29T16:11:53 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> its exactly the same avatar, even the url matches https://web.archive.org/web/20210303231032/github.com/dylanaraps
2021-03-29T16:11:57 #kisslinux <icy> Been running OpenBSD since 6.6, on 6.9-current, right now.
2021-03-29T16:12:38 #kisslinux <dilynm> I was thinking of sliding obsd onto my macbook pro but I think I have to go with freebsd unless I want to buy a wifi dongle
2021-03-29T16:12:53 #kisslinux <icy> Rough.
2021-03-29T16:13:06 #kisslinux <icy> Thanfully, all my hardware is supported perfectly OOTB.
2021-03-29T16:13:08 #kisslinux <aarng> openbsd is comfy
2021-03-29T16:13:15 #kisslinux <aarng> but I can't get over boot speed
2021-03-29T16:13:19 #kisslinux <aarng> and browser performance
2021-03-29T16:13:38 #kisslinux <icy> Yeah, the browser is a pain-point, for sure.
2021-03-29T16:13:45 #kisslinux <icy> Really sucks for video conferencing.
2021-03-29T16:13:54 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> what's wrong with browsers on obsd ?
2021-03-29T16:14:02 #kisslinux <icy> Casual browsing is agreeable. Not the fastest, but it works alright.
2021-03-29T16:14:05 #kisslinux <aarng> javascript is just slow af
2021-03-29T16:15:38 #kisslinux <icy> Fantastic OS though.
2021-03-29T16:15:51 #kisslinux <icy> Barring performance, everything justwerks.
2021-03-29T16:16:00 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, the filesystem hierachy is nice too
2021-03-29T16:16:05 #kisslinux <aarng> makes you realize how bad linux is, lol
2021-03-29T16:16:11 #kisslinux <icy> 100%!
2021-03-29T16:16:18 #kisslinux <icy> I don't think I can go back to using Linux.
2021-03-29T16:16:25 #kisslinux <icy> Not that I need to.
2021-03-29T16:16:47 #kisslinux <aarng> I planning to buy a notebook, still not sure if I will put openbsd or kiss on iot
2021-03-29T16:16:49 #kisslinux <aarng> it*
2021-03-29T16:17:19 #kisslinux <icy> If you plan to run OpenBSD, check for hardware compat beforehand.
2021-03-29T16:17:39 #kisslinux <aarng> yep, will do
2021-03-29T16:18:56 #kisslinux <aarng> I also like the *.local configs for changing the standard configs
2021-03-29T16:18:59 #kisslinux <aarng> it's a nice system
2021-03-29T16:25:25 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> wanted to verify cuz someone claimed that his pfp changed
2021-03-29T16:26:12 #kisslinux <acheam> I have obsd on an old thinkpad, in the little bit that I have used it its really nice
2021-03-29T16:26:34 #kisslinux <acheam> although I still haven't really learned the obsd way of doing things
2021-03-29T16:27:08 #kisslinux <acheam> I very frequently try and diagnose things in a linux way, especially networking, only to find that it doesn't work
2021-03-29T16:41:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've actually never run openBSD before
2021-03-29T16:41:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> only dBSD and nBSD
2021-03-29T17:04:21 #kisslinux <dilynm> What's up with the strange zfs hierarchies I see?
2021-03-29T17:04:39 #kisslinux <dilynm> Like zroot/root/default is a recommended... Root pool? Why not just... Zroot?
2021-03-29T17:40:34 #kisslinux <kiedtl> KISS was created because Dylan realized OpenBSD didn't work on his hardware :^)
2021-03-29T17:54:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> icy: I remember you were complaining they dont "debloat" the packages :x . I tried to build some packages with kiss. Mpv and friends are working. Webkit still not.
2021-03-29T17:54:53 #kisslinux <claudia02> If you are interested https://github.com/sdsddsd1/potpourri
2021-03-29T18:36:38 #kisslinux <dilynm> Dylan did this a while back and it's a super cute idea https://github.com/mirror/busybox/blob/master/docs/embedded-scripts.txt
2021-03-29T18:36:44 #kisslinux <dilynm> Probably only 400kb I reckon
2021-03-29T18:37:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> "hush"?
2021-03-29T18:38:19 #kisslinux <dilynm> ?
2021-03-29T18:40:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> It talks about needing a shell, either ash or hush
2021-03-29T18:40:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> I've never heard of hush.
2021-03-29T18:40:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> Probably should have been clearer, sorry.
2021-03-29T18:43:41 #kisslinux <dilynm> Ah! Right
2021-03-29T18:43:51 #kisslinux <dilynm> I read it a week ago I had forgotten most of it lol
2021-03-29T18:44:24 #kisslinux <dilynm> It couldn't possibly mean this right
2021-03-29T18:44:25 #kisslinux <dilynm> https://github.com/onionjake/hush
2021-03-29T18:45:07 #kisslinux <dilynm> Maybe it means this also absurd shell
2021-03-29T18:45:08 #kisslinux <dilynm> https://www.barebox.org/doc/latest/user/hush.html
2021-03-29T18:46:40 #kisslinux <dilynm> Hush is probably a busybox option
2021-03-29T18:46:46 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hush is a busybox shell iirc
2021-03-29T18:47:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> it's supposed to be a bit more featureful than ash
2021-03-29T20:18:17 #kisslinux <acheam> since I deleted my Reddit account, the thing that's hurt me the most is not being able to correct people who call Arch a minimal distro
2021-03-29T20:21:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> ah, but consider the following
2021-03-29T20:21:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> you no longer have to deal with constant redditor spam
2021-03-29T20:21:51 #kisslinux <acheam> what spam?
2021-03-29T20:23:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> presumably the horde of DWM-using r/unixporn-posting Arch users
2021-03-29T20:30:01 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> don't forget Nord colorscheme
2021-03-29T20:30:53 #kisslinux <acheam> ahem testuser_[m]
2021-03-29T20:32:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> this is a nord pro chat, ominous_anonymou
2021-03-29T20:32:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> respect my rights to a series of bytes
2021-03-29T20:32:17 #kisslinux <acheam> no
2021-03-29T20:32:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> now give me twenty dollars
2021-03-29T20:32:19 #kisslinux <acheam> nord bad
2021-03-29T20:32:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dark themes bad
2021-03-29T20:32:32 #kisslinux <acheam> bruh
2021-03-29T20:32:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> i will agree that most dark themes are cringe
2021-03-29T20:32:35 #kisslinux <acheam> what do you use?
2021-03-29T20:32:47 #kisslinux <kiedtl> light themes, obviously >=|
2021-03-29T20:32:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> limiting yourself to only dark colors results in very boring UIs
2021-03-29T20:33:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> this is coming from someone whose UI is predominantly grey
2021-03-29T20:33:01 #kisslinux <acheam> you can have bright colors on a dark theme
2021-03-29T20:33:09 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ^^
2021-03-29T20:33:18 #kisslinux <acheam> only the background is dark
2021-03-29T20:33:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay, sorry, I should have been more pedantic about it
2021-03-29T20:33:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> *mostly* dark colors
2021-03-29T20:33:37 #kisslinux <acheam> look at my IRC window for example
2021-03-29T20:33:45 #kisslinux <acheam> https://i.imgur.com/kNZvb4Z.jpg
2021-03-29T20:34:00 #kisslinux <acheam> dark theme, but still pretty bright
2021-03-29T20:34:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I prefer light themes because science proves they're easier on the eyes. If you don't like light themes, you're against science, obviously
2021-03-29T20:34:09 #kisslinux <dilynm> Vibrant night colorscheme is best colorscheme
2021-03-29T20:34:22 #kisslinux <dilynm> I cringe so hard when someone on r/archlinux calls arch minimal
2021-03-29T20:34:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> will stick with my GEM scheme
2021-03-29T20:34:45 #kisslinux <acheam> kiedtl: idk, my psuedoscience tells me less light hitting my eyes is better
2021-03-29T20:34:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> something something backlights
2021-03-29T20:34:58 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ^^
2021-03-29T20:35:00 #kisslinux <acheam> something something oled screen
2021-03-29T20:35:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Also turn on the goddamn room light
2021-03-29T20:35:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> use a CRT, shill
2021-03-29T20:35:11 #kisslinux <kiedtl> and open the fucking curtain lol
2021-03-29T20:35:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> also this
2021-03-29T20:35:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> get some sunlight
2021-03-29T20:35:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> literally go outside
2021-03-29T20:35:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> stop posting in #kisslinux
2021-03-29T20:35:29 #kisslinux <acheam> what now?
2021-03-29T20:35:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> and do it rn
2021-03-29T20:35:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> yes now
2021-03-29T20:35:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol
2021-03-29T20:35:46 #kisslinux <dilynm> Directions unclear, stared directly at sun
2021-03-29T20:35:49 #kisslinux <dilynm> Now am blind
2021-03-29T20:35:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> science says bright things are better for you
2021-03-29T20:35:58 #kisslinux <dilynm> Thanks anon
2021-03-29T20:36:04 #kisslinux <kiedtl> At least the weather here isn't that great, I get to stay here rite?
2021-03-29T20:36:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> no
2021-03-29T20:36:17 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Why not?
2021-03-29T20:36:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> #kisslinux will communicate using smoke signals now
2021-03-29T20:36:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> because I say so
2021-03-29T20:36:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> and so does science
2021-03-29T20:36:32 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dilynm: summon an east wind pls
2021-03-29T20:36:54 #kisslinux <dilynm> *blows*
2021-03-29T20:36:58 #kisslinux <acheam> no more http, just copying bit by bit from smoke signals
2021-03-29T20:37:18 #kisslinux <kiedtl> No more JS
2021-03-29T20:37:18 #kisslinux <dilynm> You've heard of sneaker net, but have you heard of smokesignal net
2021-03-29T20:37:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> fucking based
2021-03-29T20:37:35 #kisslinux <dilynm> Bitrot is just clouds getting in the way
2021-03-29T20:38:04 #kisslinux <kiedtl> or dilynm's east wind >=)
2021-03-29T20:38:07 #kisslinux <dilynm> Your transfer speed is limited only by your astigmatism and writing speed
2021-03-29T20:38:18 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Guess I wond be able to transfer then
2021-03-29T20:38:18 #kisslinux <dilynm> Weast wind
2021-03-29T20:39:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> beast wind
2021-03-29T20:39:14 #kisslinux <kiedtl> yeast wind
2021-03-29T20:39:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> no wait-
2021-03-29T20:39:51 #kisslinux <kiedtl> we are breadpunk now
2021-03-29T20:44:26 #kisslinux <dilynm> s/KISS Linux/bread linoox/
2021-03-29T20:45:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> KISS on MINIX when
2021-03-29T20:46:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...wait why is my laptop connected
2021-03-29T20:46:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> go away midfavila1
2021-03-29T20:47:11 #kisslinux <dilynm> I'm hesitant to believe that root=ZFS=zpool/root/KISS will be the magic bullet for this boot entry but my job we're gonna try
2021-03-29T20:48:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> the zoomer filesystem is cringe
2021-03-29T20:48:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> use based HAMMER2
2021-03-29T20:49:16 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I hear btrfs is nice
2021-03-29T20:49:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> But what do I know, I've used neither zfs nor btrfs
2021-03-29T20:53:18 #kisslinux <dilynm> btrfs is fine
2021-03-29T20:53:31 #kisslinux <dilynm> Except for the part where it eats your data sometimes
2021-03-29T20:53:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> that doesn't really happen lmao
2021-03-29T20:53:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> i used it for three and a half years straight as my primary filesystem and never lost any data
2021-03-29T20:54:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> even through consecutive power losses
2021-03-29T20:54:11 #kisslinux <kiedtl> "works on my machine!"
2021-03-29T20:54:29 #kisslinux <dilynm> I said sometimes lad
2021-03-29T20:54:36 #kisslinux <acheam> HAMMER2 is kinda cool ngl
2021-03-29T20:54:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've literally never met a single person who's had data eaten by btrfs
2021-03-29T20:54:54 #kisslinux <dilynm> RAID5 still doesn't 'work' (unfinished) afaik
2021-03-29T20:55:01 #kisslinux <acheam> raid5 sucks
2021-03-29T20:55:05 #kisslinux <acheam> raid10 ftw
2021-03-29T20:55:09 #kisslinux <dilynm> But otherwise, it's probably good enough to use over ext4 in basically every case
2021-03-29T20:55:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> >he doesn't use raid01
2021-03-29T20:55:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh, acheam, my sweet summer child
2021-03-29T20:55:33 #kisslinux <dilynm> Hardware raid because I like to live on the edge
2021-03-29T20:57:54 #kisslinux <acheam> raid 01
2021-03-29T20:57:55 #kisslinux <acheam> why
2021-03-29T20:57:57 #kisslinux <acheam> no
2021-03-29T20:58:01 #kisslinux <acheam> who did this to you
2021-03-29T20:58:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> comptia
2021-03-29T20:58:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> and my college
2021-03-29T21:01:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> kind of annoying that adobe has outright blocked flash content from running in flash player
2021-03-29T21:01:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> i understand killing it off from the web but let me run it locally at least
2021-03-29T21:06:18 #kisslinux <acheam> pepperflash?
2021-03-29T21:06:20 #kisslinux <dilynm> They only let you run flash because of their overwhelming benevolence, pleb
2021-03-29T21:06:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'd use the GNU flash implementation but it's bad
2021-03-29T21:06:58 #kisslinux <tink> Does anyone know if Nick on https://k1sslinux.org/screenshots has more screenshots posted somewhere else?
2021-03-29T21:08:08 #kisslinux <dilynm> Maybe on unixporn? Unsure
2021-03-29T21:08:10 #kisslinux <acheam> i've never heard of that person before
2021-03-29T21:08:14 #kisslinux <dilynm> I think he emailed Dylan those...
2021-03-29T21:09:18 #kisslinux <acheam> they're username isn't on reddit and the github user with that name seens unrelated
2021-03-29T21:13:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> so here's a question for you guys
2021-03-29T21:14:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> only tangentially related to tech but have you ever willingly gone without internet access at your house? i'm considering cutting my connection and just going to the library or something
2021-03-29T21:14:41 #kisslinux <acheam> wow doing the big luke smith eh
2021-03-29T21:14:53 #kisslinux <acheam> have never, and probably will never
2021-03-29T21:14:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> i wanted to do the luke smith thing before luke smith even had a youtube channel
2021-03-29T21:14:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> unironically
2021-03-29T21:15:06 #kisslinux <acheam> although I respect people who can
2021-03-29T21:15:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> well for me it's like
2021-03-29T21:15:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> the more I actually analyze what I use the internet at my house for, the more I realize it's for pointless shit
2021-03-29T21:16:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> sure, sometimes it's for pulling documentation or source code, and that's valid, and chatting with people and media is okay once in a while, but I end up just watching videos all day
2021-03-29T21:18:41 #kisslinux <acheam> yeah I get that
2021-03-29T21:19:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> not to mention that I have unlimited data on my phone *anyway*, even if it is limited to 128kbps
2021-03-29T21:19:08 #kisslinux <acheam> 128kbps...
2021-03-29T21:19:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> so email and docs and light browsing is fine
2021-03-29T21:19:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh dude that's nothing
2021-03-29T21:19:22 #kisslinux <acheam> what kind of plan is that?
2021-03-29T21:19:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> the plan of a penny-pincher forced to spend money
2021-03-29T21:19:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> originally I was paying 15 but I needed calling
2021-03-29T21:19:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> fucking normies
2021-03-29T21:19:59 #kisslinux <acheam> but actually, what do they call a plan like that
2021-03-29T21:20:09 #kisslinux <acheam> because I wouldn't mind something like that
2021-03-29T21:20:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> "budget" or "economy"
2021-03-29T21:20:13 #kisslinux <acheam> and not home internet
2021-03-29T21:20:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> mine is registered with lucky mobile
2021-03-29T21:20:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's like 512mb a month at 4g speeds and then it's throttled
2021-03-29T21:20:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> plus unlimited global texting and multi-media messages, and unlimited canada-wide calling
2021-03-29T21:20:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's not a bad deal
2021-03-29T21:21:09 #kisslinux <acheam> yeah
2021-03-29T21:21:15 #kisslinux <acheam> ah got it
2021-03-29T21:21:29 #kisslinux <acheam> I didn't get that it would be limited data at 4g speed
2021-03-29T21:21:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's limited full-speed and then it drops you down to lower speeds
2021-03-29T21:21:51 #kisslinux <acheam> yeah I could do something like that for sure
2021-03-29T21:21:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> but they don't charge you for usage
2021-03-29T21:21:58 #kisslinux <acheam> hmm
2021-03-29T21:22:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's perfectly suitable for light browsing, comms, etc
2021-03-29T21:22:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> the only thing I wouldn't recommend is watching high-res video
2021-03-29T21:22:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...obviously.
2021-03-29T21:23:21 #kisslinux <dilynm> I had no internet at my home for 3 months. It was fine
2021-03-29T21:23:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> my only concern is that I'm an absolute NEET and have no hobbies outside of tech stuff
2021-03-29T21:23:49 #kisslinux <dilynm> I was working at starbucks so I spent a lot of time there off the clock for the larger downloads and such
2021-03-29T21:23:53 #kisslinux <acheam> lets see, for $10/month I can get unlimited talk + text, and then data on top of that
2021-03-29T21:23:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh, fair
2021-03-29T21:24:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> starbucks' only good product is internet access lmao
2021-03-29T21:24:07 #kisslinux <dilynm> Find a good one, trust me. Especially with a bad wireless connection like you've got
2021-03-29T21:24:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> @ me or acheam?
2021-03-29T21:24:44 #kisslinux <dilynm> @u
2021-03-29T21:24:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> the janky wireless was on my desktop
2021-03-29T21:25:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's been wired into my router directly now
2021-03-29T21:25:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> laptop is fine
2021-03-29T21:25:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...actually wait
2021-03-29T21:25:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> megamind idea
2021-03-29T21:25:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> what if I just...
2021-03-29T21:25:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...installed a modem into my router?
2021-03-29T21:25:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> :thinking:
2021-03-29T21:25:54 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> funny, had the same idea yesterday
2021-03-29T21:26:05 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> if i'd cut the internet, i could actually get shit done
2021-03-29T21:26:13 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> instead of procastrinating all day long
2021-03-29T21:26:24 #kisslinux * midfavila nods
2021-03-29T21:27:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly it's not even raw speed that matters, it's consistency
2021-03-29T21:27:28 #kisslinux <dilynm> Yeah but who needs that kind of pressure
2021-03-29T22:25:18 #kisslinux <acheam> damn that part message is pretty annoying lol
2021-03-29T22:31:45 #kisslinux * midfavila lets out a long sigh
2021-03-29T22:31:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> I have a huge shelf on my desktop and no idea what to embed in it.
2021-03-29T22:32:16 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> ashtrays and beer cans
2021-03-29T22:32:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> I've already got resource monitors, shortcuts to all my crap, a pager, clock, and panel...
2021-03-29T22:32:45 #kisslinux <acheam> how do you embed something into a shelf?
2021-03-29T22:32:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> fvwm has a function for it
2021-03-29T22:33:01 #kisslinux <acheam> ohhh virtual desktop
2021-03-29T22:33:02 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> oh, you talk about *software*
2021-03-29T22:33:13 #kisslinux <acheam> I thought you meant a literal desk top
2021-03-29T22:33:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> :v
2021-03-29T22:35:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> http://0x0.st/-bMh.png
2021-03-29T22:35:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> current setup
2021-03-29T22:36:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> the shelf is much less... bleeeeh-feeling on my laptop, because there's less space and... it just looks better I guess idk
2021-03-29T22:37:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> gotta adjust some stuff with fonts and shadows now that I look at it