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2021-03-27T00:01:48 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> oooo
2021-03-27T00:03:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://k1sslinux.org/wiki/software/acpid
2021-03-27T00:03:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> yah
2021-03-27T00:06:33 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> dang, gonna need a reboot
2021-03-27T00:06:37 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> rip 20 days uptime
2021-03-27T00:07:02 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> might as well fix my initramfs...
2021-03-27T00:08:29 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> I really need to start using org-capture for pending stuff
2021-03-27T01:03:34 #kisslinux <necromansy> hey folks
2021-03-27T01:07:57 #kisslinux <kiedtl> sup
2021-03-27T01:10:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> suh
2021-03-27T01:13:15 #kisslinux <necromansy> man im glad ive only got slow updating packages, its been a *week*
2021-03-27T01:13:26 #kisslinux <necromansy> and its nice coming back to no needed updates
2021-03-27T01:13:27 #kisslinux <necromansy> kek
2021-03-27T01:17:15 #kisslinux <acheam> hi necromansy
2021-03-27T01:18:46 #kisslinux <acheam> new song, word!
2021-03-27T02:55:21 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> dilyn hey i'm typing this from the newest firefox-bin you put up
2021-03-27T02:55:38 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> so looks like it works ok.  i haven't tried like... youtube or netflix or anything
2021-03-27T02:58:55 #kisslinux <acheam> ominous_anonymou: are you on glibc?
2021-03-27T02:59:11 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> no, musl
2021-03-27T02:59:20 #kisslinux <acheam> then netflix won't work for you
2021-03-27T02:59:22 #kisslinux <acheam> because drm
2021-03-27T02:59:32 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> yeah that's true, i always forget
2021-03-27T02:59:45 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> sound works, just tried yule log 10 hours hd on youtube
2021-03-27T02:59:57 #kisslinux <acheam> its okay - one less nonfree network service to be bound to :)
2021-03-27T03:00:22 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i wish there was a tui for netflix
2021-03-27T03:00:39 #kisslinux <acheam> hmm yeah
2021-03-27T03:00:43 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> like mps-youtube
2021-03-27T03:00:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> thank you for letting me know!
2021-03-27T03:00:58 #kisslinux <acheam> because of DRM and auth, it would probably just need to call a proper web browser in the background anyways
2021-03-27T03:01:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> something something widevine
2021-03-27T03:03:49 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=572993
2021-03-27T03:08:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> obviously musl is garbage
2021-03-27T03:08:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> netflex has decided what the superior libc is guys
2021-03-27T03:11:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> lmao netflex, appropriate
2021-03-27T03:14:22 #kisslinux <acheam> lol ofc the chromium bug tracker requires nonfree javascript
2021-03-27T03:15:29 #kisslinux <acheam> but tbf 98% of bug trackers (including KISS's) do
2021-03-27T03:18:44 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: can we implement this? https://fire.fundersclub.com/
2021-03-27T03:19:04 #kisslinux <acheam> https://github.com/FundersClub/fire
2021-03-27T03:19:07 #kisslinux <acheam> I can host it if you want
2021-03-27T03:21:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah I can't load the chromium bug tracker... on chromium :v
2021-03-27T03:21:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> that's an interesting idea acheam. I will take a peak saturday night/sunday
2021-03-27T03:21:43 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i could in firefox with umatrix blocking scripts... does that mean its not actually blocking js scripts?
2021-03-27T03:24:02 #kisslinux <acheam> I have umatrix too, but it didn't load for me
2021-03-27T03:24:09 #kisslinux <acheam> I also block first party javascript though
2021-03-27T03:24:14 #kisslinux <acheam> which isn't the default
2021-03-27T03:25:24 #kisslinux <konimex> isn't umatrix pretty much abandoned? had to enable 3rd-party script for chromium in ublock0 though
2021-03-27T03:25:36 #kisslinux <acheam> yes umatrix is unmaintained
2021-03-27T03:25:47 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> what since when
2021-03-27T03:25:48 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> dammit
2021-03-27T03:25:49 #kisslinux <acheam> there is a fork called nutensor, but no real development has happened on it
2021-03-27T03:25:52 #kisslinux <acheam> for a few months
2021-03-27T03:26:07 #kisslinux <acheam> Raymond Hill (the maintainer) wanted to focus more on uBO
2021-03-27T03:26:24 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> thanks @acheam the first-party piece was it.  been a while since i configured it fresh
2021-03-27T03:26:44 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> last i saw he was merging some umatrix functionality into ublock origin, is that still the case?
2021-03-27T03:26:56 #kisslinux <acheam> yes
2021-03-27T03:26:58 #kisslinux <konimex> well, uBlock0 in advanced mode is pretty much uMatrix I think, been using it now
2021-03-27T03:27:07 #kisslinux <acheam> not as intuitive IMO
2021-03-27T03:27:22 #kisslinux <konimex> that pretty much depends on workflow I guess
2021-03-27T03:27:24 #kisslinux <acheam> yeah
2021-03-27T03:27:38 #kisslinux <acheam> I use both, except never really interact with uBO
2021-03-27T03:27:44 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> yeah i like umatrix's color-picker view
2021-03-27T03:27:50 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> easy to make changes quickly
2021-03-27T03:27:59 #kisslinux <acheam> uBO's advanced mode has a similar color thing
2021-03-27T03:28:16 #kisslinux <acheam> but there are some weird exceptions and stuff, with "gray" as a color, etc
2021-03-27T03:28:31 #kisslinux <acheam> I wish umatrix could be a little bit more keyboard-driven though
2021-03-27T03:29:06 #kisslinux <acheam> Most of the websites I visit in Firefox, I visit because I can't view them in a text browser, so pretty much every site, I need to fiddle in uMatrix for
2021-03-27T03:30:59 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> what's the difference between the left and right columns in advanced mode?
2021-03-27T03:31:30 #kisslinux <acheam> I never figured that out
2021-03-27T03:32:01 #kisslinux <acheam> maybe I should give it another try
2021-03-27T03:32:13 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> battery dying, see y'all
2021-03-27T03:32:20 #kisslinux <acheam> bye ominous_anonymou
2021-03-27T03:34:50 #kisslinux <konimex> the left column is for global rules (i.e. if you whitelist google.com, it'll apply to all sites) and right column for local rules (i.e. if you whitelist google.com, it only applies to the specific site you're on)
2021-03-27T03:37:40 #kisslinux <acheam> ah thanks
2021-03-27T03:37:44 #kisslinux <acheam> don't know how much I like that
2021-03-27T03:38:09 #kisslinux <acheam> but at least its better than noscript
2021-03-27T03:38:18 #kisslinux <acheam> which is only global
2021-03-27T05:44:14 #kisslinux <acheam> testuser_[m]: damn no "hi" message today
2021-03-27T06:25:30 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-03-27T07:56:13 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> ^AdNauseam is fork of uBO. Besides just blocking ads it simulates clicks on them so analytics will think you liked ad and won't be able to show targeted ads anymore https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam
2021-03-27T08:03:47 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> In fact it was so effective that google banned it from their extensions store https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/Install-AdNauseam-on-Chrome-Without-Google's-Permission
2021-03-27T13:18:02 #kisslinux <acheam> Id argue it makes sense worse
2021-03-27T13:18:15 #kisslinux <acheam> because now you stick out
2021-03-27T13:18:55 #kisslinux <acheam> I'd rather blend in with the herd when it comes to tracking
2021-03-27T13:20:27 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> yeah
2021-03-27T13:23:11 #kisslinux <acheam> it also only works well if that's the only content blocker you use
2021-03-27T13:23:19 #kisslinux <acheam> which it wouldn't be for me
2021-03-27T14:05:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> "blending in with the herd" is kind of a stupid concept
2021-03-27T14:06:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you have an odd resolution screen that immediately singles you out for example
2021-03-27T14:06:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> use an odd browser or OS? you're immediately noticable
2021-03-27T14:06:31 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> mid's back :o
2021-03-27T14:06:49 #kisslinux * sh4rm4^bnc_ sigh of relief
2021-03-27T14:06:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> eh.
2021-03-27T14:07:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> anyway, point is, it's better to take active countermeasures than rely on herd immunity.
2021-03-27T14:07:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> at the very least, fuck with <canvas> using a userJS and randomly spoof your user agent
2021-03-27T14:08:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> having a shitty disguise doesn't matter if you cripple their surveillance methods and constantly switch it up.
2021-03-27T14:10:28 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> you got such a script for palemoon/webbrowser ?
2021-03-27T14:13:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> I've got an add-on for it because I'm a JS brainlet
2021-03-27T14:13:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> CanvasBlocker Legacy
2021-03-27T14:13:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...oh, and one other thing based on the herd argument
2021-03-27T14:14:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you want to "blend in", that means you have to (obviously) make the same choices. which means that we should all use windows, google chrome, no extensions, etc
2021-03-27T14:14:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> which... sounds pretty awful to me
2021-03-27T14:24:15 #kisslinux <acheam> he's back!
2021-03-27T14:24:22 #kisslinux <acheam> for better or for worse
2021-03-27T14:24:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah, well, thanks for the hero's welcome.
2021-03-27T14:24:52 #kisslinux <acheam> screen resolution is not nearly specific enough to fingerprint you
2021-03-27T14:25:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> nothing on its own is enough
2021-03-27T14:25:06 #kisslinux <acheam> because not everyone keeps their windows in full screen
2021-03-27T14:25:16 #kisslinux <acheam> sure but that is *so* bad its basically irrelevant
2021-03-27T14:25:39 #kisslinux <acheam> I do both, take countermeasures and rely on herd immunity
2021-03-27T14:25:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> I don't know a single person who always keeps their browser window at some weird size.
2021-03-27T14:25:57 #kisslinux <acheam> see macbook users with a big dock, tiling window manager users, fvwm users with a big ass bar, etc
2021-03-27T14:26:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> Meh. Like I said, it's only one element.
2021-03-27T14:26:36 #kisslinux <acheam> yeah
2021-03-27T14:26:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> If you *can* cripple it, you should.
2021-03-27T14:26:57 #kisslinux <acheam> I tried letterboxing for a bit, but found it too inconvinient for not that much gain
2021-03-27T14:27:18 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> herd immunity would be the right thing to do when it comes to covid 1984, but no, we have to make lockdowns over and over even though they dont work and ruin the economy <_<
2021-03-27T14:27:34 #kisslinux <acheam> off topic, sh4rm4^bnc_
2021-03-27T14:28:10 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> :)
2021-03-27T14:29:02 #kisslinux <acheam> not to fuel this, but saying that directly contradicts you denying covid earlier
2021-03-27T14:30:24 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> well, i'm talking from a stance of an ordinary person believing there's such a thing
2021-03-27T14:31:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> Oh, great, we're back to this shit...
2021-03-27T14:31:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've seen more productive circlejerks on /g/
2021-03-27T14:31:37 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> /g/ is ?
2021-03-27T14:31:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> google is your friend
2021-03-27T14:33:31 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> video of the day: https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=280&part=1&gen=99
2021-03-27T14:33:53 #kisslinux <acheam> I'm going to choose not to click that
2021-03-27T14:34:05 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> your loss
2021-03-27T16:57:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> >tunak tunak tun is the SotD
2021-03-27T16:57:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> finally, some REAL music
2021-03-27T16:58:47 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> nice
2021-03-27T18:08:47 #kisslinux <acheam> midfavila: you wouldn't *believe* what the song of the day was when you were gone
2021-03-27T18:09:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> ?
2021-03-27T18:11:50 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> https://ytprivate.com/hRP1dF7Qlac
2021-03-27T18:12:54 #kisslinux <acheam> (it was a stupid joke)
2021-03-27T18:13:01 #kisslinux <acheam> didn't mean it literally
2021-03-27T18:13:07 #kisslinux <acheam> but thanks testuser[m]_