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2020-12-18T02:30:35 #kisslinux <Rio6> it feels like the kernel is recompiling everything when all I did was changing one config :|
2020-12-18T02:39:44 #kisslinux <Rio6> i wonder if busybox diff complaining about unknown option -I causes it, or if kernel building just does that
2020-12-18T05:29:51 #kisslinux <Rio6> is xterm not in the repos? I swear I had it before
2020-12-18T09:54:39 #kisslinux <sad_plan[m]> Anyone had any issue with amd-vi being unable to read/write to iommu? I get the error upon boot, and its preventing me from booting kiss linux..
2020-12-18T09:57:33 #kisslinux * sad_plan[m] uploaded an image: IMG_20201213_215849.jpg (37KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/privacytools.io/NZkemJyiiZHACvfHLNfdlbZO/IMG_20201213_215849.jpg >
2020-12-18T09:57:43 #kisslinux <sad_plan[m]> Theres the error if its of any case
2020-12-18T12:34:07 #kisslinux <fehawen> Any word on Dylan's whereabouts yet?
2020-12-18T12:34:38 #kisslinux <fehawen> Haven't visited this channel in ages, but I read from the logs and based on his lack of git activity that he seems to have gone off the grid.
2020-12-18T12:40:55 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> no word yet.
2020-12-18T12:47:29 #kisslinux <fehawen> ok, thanks.
2020-12-18T14:15:21 #kisslinux <nerditup> anybody know if the init framework's portability is meant to span BSDs as well? https://github.com/kisslinux/init/blob/master/lib/init/rc.boot#L103 the `-p` command is Linux specific
2020-12-18T15:41:18 #kisslinux <nerditup> I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the PARTUUID of my GUID partition using /just/ busybox tools installed. Anybody know if there's a way to get this from the kernel? I can't even get it from fdisk
2020-12-18T15:41:42 #kisslinux <nerditup> mdev doesn't mount /dev/disk/by-partuuid since it's seemingly not available? not sure
2020-12-18T15:42:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> I don't know of a way to get PARTUUID without actual util-linux
2020-12-18T15:42:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> but you can just build util-linux blkid and run it once, save the PARTUUID, and then not have to deal with util-linux again
2020-12-18T15:43:47 #kisslinux <E5ten> also I don't see a way that the sysctl command could be made portable to BSDs cuz they use -f for specifying file and linux sysctl doesn't have -f, although I guess the correct flag could be chosen based on uname?
2020-12-18T15:45:20 #kisslinux <nerditup> ah ok, thanks for confirming E5ten - I didn't want to spin my wheels any longer if there wasn't any actual way
2020-12-18T15:45:47 #kisslinux <E5ten> np
2020-12-18T16:33:32 #kisslinux <micr0> onodera and sdssdsd1 i've merged your PRs (blender, icu/webkitgtk) in my fork of community since it looks like dylanaraps is busy
2020-12-18T16:39:17 #kisslinux <micr0> figured out why my kiss manifest was broken
2020-12-18T16:39:26 #kisslinux <onodera> micr0: nice
2020-12-18T16:39:28 #kisslinux <micr0> kiss depends on busybox sh and does not work with bash
2020-12-18T16:40:06 #kisslinux <onodera> any news on dylan yet tho?
2020-12-18T16:40:39 #kisslinux <micr0> not that I've seen. I assume we will hear from him after the new year
2020-12-18T16:43:00 #kisslinux <micr0> i've seen this in enough projects around a single person, so it will be a good test of the claim that the project has a bus factor of '0' not '1' because its understandable by a single person
2020-12-18T16:50:09 #kisslinux <nerditup> this really threw me for a loop: https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/master/kiss#L1277 -- post_install is hardcoded to run everytime but that's not how the hooks typically work
2020-12-18T16:50:16 #kisslinux <nerditup> unless, I'm misunderstanding something
2020-12-18T16:51:00 #kisslinux <nerditup> it's not enough to simply put a pre-build or whatever in the package repo, you need to use KISS_HOOK
2020-12-18T16:51:19 #kisslinux <nerditup> but you can get away with putting post-install in the package repo, because that line will execute it
2020-12-18T16:51:44 #kisslinux <nerditup> (you can also add additional post-install options in general with KISS_HOOK)
2020-12-18T16:53:22 #kisslinux <E5ten> micr0: what goes wrong with using bash to run kiss? afaik the intent is that kiss only uses POSIX shell features, so it should work with bash too
2020-12-18T16:56:10 #kisslinux <micr0> E5ten try using `kiss owns` with /bin/sh set to bash using kiss alternatives
2020-12-18T16:56:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> I'm not on kiss lol, I'll need your output
2020-12-18T16:56:33 #kisslinux <micr0> so, technically, it might not be 'kiss' the single script, but one of the "extensions" that ship with kiss
2020-12-18T16:56:39 #kisslinux <micr0> output is nothing, -1
2020-12-18T16:57:29 #kisslinux <micr0> i tried strace -e open but saw nothing out of the ordinary
2020-12-18T16:58:05 #kisslinux <E5ten> can you run it with -x and dump stdout and stderr to a file and then send that here?
2020-12-18T16:58:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> I guess ideally once with bash, and once with busybox sh, so I can compare
2020-12-18T16:59:33 #kisslinux <micr0> E5ten set the shebang to #!/bin/sh -ex and redirect stderr to stdout and paste?
2020-12-18T17:00:52 #kisslinux <E5ten> I guess so yeah, maybe also change the line "$util" "$@" where it runs the other tools from to start with sh -x so those have xtrace enabled too?
2020-12-18T17:01:19 #kisslinux <micr0> http://ix.io/2IA3 => busybox sh
2020-12-18T17:01:33 #kisslinux <micr0> http://ix.io/2IA5 => bash sh
2020-12-18T17:04:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> ok I think I see the issue, but just to make sure I'm not wrong, what's the exact command you ran for these?
2020-12-18T17:05:55 #kisslinux <micr0> kiss owns /usr/share/terminfo/b/bantam
2020-12-18T17:06:50 #kisslinux <E5ten> but in terms of what the problem seems to be, POSIX allows a leading // to be treated specially, and bash seems to do that, so when kiss-owns does `cd -P "$KISS_ROOT/${1%/*}"`, since $KISS_ROOT is / it does cd -P //path, and then in bash $PWD will also have the leading //, because it's special and doesn't get resolved to a single / like it would if it weren't leading
2020-12-18T17:07:43 #kisslinux <E5ten> did that message go through correctly? matrix did some formatting stuff with it and I know in the past when it's done that it's sometimes led to it not sending correctly
2020-12-18T17:07:55 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah it is readable and good to me E5ten
2020-12-18T17:07:59 #kisslinux <micr0> btw what client are you using for matrix?
2020-12-18T17:08:00 #kisslinux <E5ten> great
2020-12-18T17:08:06 #kisslinux <E5ten> element in browser
2020-12-18T17:08:09 #kisslinux <micr0> cool
2020-12-18T17:08:51 #kisslinux <E5ten> but yeah I think the solution is to change the line in kiss-owns where it does cd -P "$KISS_ROOT/${1%/*}" to remove "trailing" slashes from $KISS_ROOT
2020-12-18T17:08:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> so that a double slash doesn't appear
2020-12-18T17:09:49 #kisslinux <E5ten> probably "${KISS_ROOT%${KISS_ROOT##*[!/]}}/${1%/*}"
2020-12-18T17:09:55 #kisslinux <E5ten> oh god that message probably got fucked up
2020-12-18T17:13:14 #kisslinux <E5ten> micr0: http://ix.io/2IA9 try this
2020-12-18T17:17:23 #kisslinux <micr0> E5ten didnt fix it :(
2020-12-18T17:17:42 #kisslinux <micr0> but probably a thing we want anyway, doubleslash is important
2020-12-18T17:18:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> but this isn't wanted double slash, this is double slash just because KISS_ROOT=/ but it's also having a trailing slash added
2020-12-18T17:19:15 #kisslinux <E5ten> could you send the xtrace output again with bash and that change? because I don't really understand how that's not fixing it
2020-12-18T17:20:39 #kisslinux <E5ten> oh wait a second, there's already code in kiss itself to ensure KISS_ROOT doesn't end with a slash, so I'm not sure how this is happening with kiss-owns
2020-12-18T17:21:54 #kisslinux <micr0> E5ten its the same output as before
2020-12-18T17:22:05 #kisslinux <micr0> http://ix.io/2IA5
2020-12-18T17:23:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> can you add a line above the cd -P that just echo's the part of the cd -P before the "/${1%/*}" to see what is getting put before the / between the vars?
2020-12-18T17:23:52 #kisslinux <E5ten> ohhhh wait a second
2020-12-18T17:24:13 #kisslinux <E5ten> ok change it back, and just remove the / between $KISS_ROOT and ${1%/*}
2020-12-18T17:24:31 #kisslinux <E5ten> or actually hmm, if there's only 1 slash in $1 that'll be an issue
2020-12-18T17:24:56 #kisslinux <E5ten> actually no it won't, because if there's only one slash then it'll be empty, so the / between them will just be a trailing slash
2020-12-18T17:25:12 #kisslinux <E5ten> http://ix.io/2IAe try this
2020-12-18T17:27:19 #kisslinux <micr0> that works!
2020-12-18T17:27:35 #kisslinux <micr0> tested on both busybox sh and bash sh
2020-12-18T17:27:38 #kisslinux <E5ten> nice
2020-12-18T17:27:49 #kisslinux <micr0> gonna submit a PR for that?
2020-12-18T17:28:00 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: http://ix.io/2IAe you should apply this, it's necessary for kiss-owns to work correctly with bash
2020-12-18T17:28:13 #kisslinux <E5ten> nah lol too lazy, just gonna hope dylan sees that eventually
2020-12-18T17:28:52 #kisslinux <micr0> I added to https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/issues/209
2020-12-18T17:28:52 #kisslinux <micr0> thanks
2020-12-18T17:29:17 #kisslinux <E5ten> no problem
2020-12-18T17:35:07 #kisslinux <micr0> i wonder if a similar change will be needed for my permissions issues
2020-12-18T17:35:58 #kisslinux <E5ten> what's the issue?
2020-12-18T17:48:49 #kisslinux <micr0> when I install a repo (using kiss build repo-jedahan && kiss install repo-jedahan, as an example), even though /var/db/kiss/repos is set to my user permissions, when it merges the permissions are set to root:root
2020-12-18T17:48:53 #kisslinux <micr0> instead of micr0:micr0
2020-12-18T17:49:09 #kisslinux <E5ten> and that only happens with bash?
2020-12-18T17:51:53 #kisslinux <micr0> ahh nevermind, its for busybox or bash sh
2020-12-18T17:52:05 #kisslinux <micr0> its just how kiss works, womp womp
2020-12-18T18:14:47 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> set a kiss hook to chown it?
2020-12-18T18:22:12 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah i mean i can do that with post-install or manually but it seems really hacky
2020-12-18T18:22:48 #kisslinux <micr0> I think generally kiss should preserve permissions when merging from a tarball
2020-12-18T18:22:55 #kisslinux <micr0> to the filesystem
2020-12-18T18:39:53 #kisslinux <micr0> neat. when bootstrapping rust 1.48, they reduced the compile time of llvm by 33% by switching to ninja.
2020-12-18T18:40:10 #kisslinux <micr0> testing out now
2020-12-18T22:05:21 #kisslinux <micr0> btw I packages noto-sans-jp so I can view japanese gemini content :)
2020-12-18T22:13:13 #kisslinux <deltab> gemini the http replacement?
2020-12-18T22:21:19 #kisslinux <micr0> ya