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2020-10-29T00:04:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> :w
2020-10-29T00:04:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> whoops
2020-10-29T00:04:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> ah is that yambar?
2020-10-29T00:04:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah
2020-10-29T00:04:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> Haven't spent too much time configuring it yet
2020-10-29T00:04:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> nice nice nice
2020-10-29T00:05:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> my biggest pro for it is that, unlock every other bar i've tried, it automagically used my fonts and didn't render anything supremely poorly because of them
2020-10-29T00:05:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> It didn't for me
2020-10-29T00:05:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> Swaybar is nice but I like the look of this so far
2020-10-29T00:07:53 #kisslinux <midfavila_> nice script @micr0
2020-10-29T00:40:19 #kisslinux <nerditup> muevoid: looks really good
2020-10-29T00:40:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> Thamks!
2020-10-29T00:43:20 #kisslinux <nerditup> I'm famous in the screenshot! :D
2020-10-29T00:43:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lol
2020-10-29T01:12:07 #kisslinux <himmalerin> yambar looks awesome, I've been avoiding switching out sway bar because the only other bar I knew of used gtk
2020-10-29T01:12:13 #kisslinux <himmalerin> might have to try this out
2020-10-29T01:13:01 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hmm, yambar looks really nice. If only I could try it
2020-10-29T01:13:05 #kisslinux * kiedtl cries in raspberry pi
2020-10-29T01:13:25 #kisslinux <himmalerin> mcpcpc[m]: You around? kirc bug: �PNG
2020-10-29T01:14:22 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> @freenode_himmalerin:matrix.org: uh oh. yup. lol. whats the issue?
2020-10-29T01:14:28 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I didn't just flood chat did I?
2020-10-29T01:14:39 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> dont think so.
2020-10-29T01:14:40 #kisslinux <kiedtl> no
2020-10-29T01:15:12 #kisslinux <himmalerin> oh good, accidentally tried to paste a png into my client instead of a link
2020-10-29T01:15:44 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> oh boy. lol.
2020-10-29T01:16:02 #kisslinux <himmalerin> here's the link: http://0x0.st/ik6R.png basically for each character of your input that's wider that the terminal screen the whole input gets duplicated
2020-10-29T01:16:24 #kisslinux <himmalerin> oddly enough it didn't happen when sending that message but it's happened for all my previous long messages
2020-10-29T01:16:50 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> oh. i think 0.1.9 release should address that.
2020-10-29T01:17:30 #kisslinux <himmalerin> That's good to hear, I can no longer reproduce it lmao
2020-10-29T01:17:38 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> hm. strange.
2020-10-29T01:18:56 #kisslinux <himmalerin> regardless, thanks for the work you put into kirc! It's been working awesome overall
2020-10-29T01:20:53 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> np! i have really enjoyed developing it. probably been the best part for me, has been working with all kinds of developers and users at different skill levels.
2020-10-29T01:21:24 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> also, still lots more to do :P
2020-10-29T01:21:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> +1 kirc is awesome
2020-10-29T01:22:28 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> <3
2020-10-29T01:24:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> I am dying to do some type of simple terminal program but have no idea what. Anyone have any ideas?
2020-10-29T01:26:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Yet Another Irc Client?
2020-10-29T01:26:54 #kisslinux <kiedtl> or, what about a simple cli gemini client? gemini is simple enough to implement over a weekend (or less!)
2020-10-29T01:27:22 #kisslinux <kiedtl> There's even a gemini client in bash, bollux https://git.sr.ht/~acdw/bollux
2020-10-29T01:27:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> That's an interesting idea
2020-10-29T01:29:18 #kisslinux <himmalerin> On the topic of gemini (though a touch off-topic for this chat), does anyone of a gemini server that works on OpenBSD? I tried Drew's but it doesn't compile
2020-10-29T01:31:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> Send a log of the build failing?
2020-10-29T01:32:15 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ^
2020-10-29T01:33:40 #kisslinux <himmalerin> sure, one moment
2020-10-29T01:34:20 #kisslinux <kiedtl> himmalerin: I just asked a friend, he said Jetforce worked (he was the former admin of tilde.black)
2020-10-29T01:34:52 #kisslinux <himmalerin> http://0x0.st/ik6C.txt
2020-10-29T01:35:03 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I'll take a look, thanks for the suggestion
2020-10-29T01:36:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> brb
2020-10-29T01:41:24 #kisslinux <mcf> himmalerin: try adding `#include <netinet/in.h>` and `#include <sys/socket.h>` to include/config.h
2020-10-29T01:43:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> This compositor is really cool
2020-10-29T01:44:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm sticking with sway but cagebreak is really cool. It is like tmux except for gui
2020-10-29T01:46:23 #kisslinux <himmalerin> mcf: That got it further but it's now running into a new error: http://0x0.st/ikIs.txt
2020-10-29T01:46:45 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Is cagebreak the kiosk-style compositor?
2020-10-29T01:47:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's based on cage which is the kiosk-style compositor
2020-10-29T01:49:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would probably consider switching to it if it didn't crash right away for me personally. But it is most likely just my setup
2020-10-29T01:49:23 #kisslinux <mcf> himmalerin: that's an openssl specific function not present in libressl. i don't think ddevault thinks highly of libressl so you probably need to build it against openssl (or patch it yourself)
2020-10-29T01:53:04 #kisslinux <himmalerin> mcf: got it, thanks for help
2020-10-29T01:54:14 #kisslinux <mcf> i wonder how difficult a port to bearssl would be. i'd be interested in that
2020-10-29T01:54:45 #kisslinux <nerditup> What's wrong with libressl?
2020-10-29T01:55:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> bearssl is awesome
2020-10-29T01:55:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nothing wrong with libressl but I do really like bearssl
2020-10-29T01:55:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> I want to switch mue-linux to it at some point
2020-10-29T01:56:08 #kisslinux <nerditup> ddevault doesn't think too highly of much, it seems -- although I hate to admit I agree with a lot of what he rants on
2020-10-29T01:56:29 #kisslinux <nerditup> But libressl is great
2020-10-29T01:57:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> ddevault is cool
2020-10-29T01:58:05 #kisslinux <himmalerin> mcf: Do you have any suggestions/links about how to go about compiling against openssl? I can't find anything on the web
2020-10-29T01:58:25 #kisslinux <nerditup> muevoid: does mue-linux use the kiss package manager?
2020-10-29T01:58:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> as of the moment yes
2020-10-29T01:59:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> I want to make my own pkg manager though that is compatible with kiss linux build scripts
2020-10-29T01:59:48 #kisslinux <nerditup> I was thinking of doing the same in Zig, using it as an opportunity to learn Zig
2020-10-29T02:00:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you have zig compiling on kiss? I've been wanting to check out river compositor
2020-10-29T02:00:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> Also I would do mine in C cause I love c lol
2020-10-29T02:00:37 #kisslinux <nerditup> Not yet, was actually hoping to spend time on that this weekend
2020-10-29T02:00:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> Zig seems cool though
2020-10-29T02:00:56 #kisslinux <nerditup> C would be great too, of course
2020-10-29T02:01:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> Whoever maintains the language repo said they were working on getting zig compiling in a recent reddit post
2020-10-29T02:01:33 #kisslinux <nerditup> Oh cool, I'll have to look into that
2020-10-29T02:01:35 #kisslinux <mcf> himmalerin: um, not sure. looks like it is in openbsd ports, so i'd install that and make sure pkg-config detects it over libressl (maybe by setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH)
2020-10-29T02:01:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> not done yet but you can find the repo here: https://github.com/mmatongo/kiss-lang
2020-10-29T02:03:43 #kisslinux <nerditup> I think it would be interesting to build a source package manager that can handle different languages dynamically
2020-10-29T02:04:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> I really like the oasis pkg manager by mcf
2020-10-29T02:04:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> It builds all files using meson build scripts that are generated
2020-10-29T02:04:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> iirc
2020-10-29T02:05:24 #kisslinux <mcf> ninja, not meson
2020-10-29T02:05:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> yeah thank you
2020-10-29T02:05:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lua to generate ninja build files
2020-10-29T02:05:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> I always get mixed between meson and ninja even though I know they are different
2020-10-29T02:07:10 #kisslinux <mcf> it's not much of a "package manager" in the usual sense, though. more of a "root fs builder"
2020-10-29T02:07:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah fair point
2020-10-29T02:07:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think you could make a pkg manager with a similar idea though
2020-10-29T02:08:13 #kisslinux <nerditup> Do you guys have a link to the source? I'd like to see it!
2020-10-29T02:08:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://github.com/oasislinux/oasis
2020-10-29T02:10:22 #kisslinux <nerditup> > Fast builds that are 100% reproducible.
2020-10-29T02:10:26 #kisslinux <nerditup> Amazing
2020-10-29T02:11:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oasis is really cool
2020-10-29T02:13:10 #kisslinux <mcf> thanks
2020-10-29T02:13:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> My goal is to slowly transition to using most of the core software oasis uses. Such as sbase, sinit, etc
2020-10-29T02:14:01 #kisslinux <nerditup> Yeah, this really speaks to me
2020-10-29T02:14:13 #kisslinux <nerditup> Looks like it's all mostly non-gnu
2020-10-29T02:57:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> I spent a whole evening reading all of the stuff on oasis' github. Very well organized and detailed
2020-10-29T02:57:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> I respect mcf's work on a spiritual level
2020-10-29T03:05:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> same
2020-10-29T03:22:01 #kisslinux <mcf> thanks :) i do my best
2020-10-29T03:22:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> didn't KISS previously have shared-mime-info in the repo? like, a long while back?
2020-10-29T03:22:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmao. dropped 2/13
2020-10-29T03:22:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> You're very good at your work mcf~ be proud!
2020-10-29T03:36:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> What do you need it for dilyn?
2020-10-29T03:39:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> well i thought i needed it for kdenlive, which didn't seem right
2020-10-29T03:39:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> looking closer at the source files, and confirming on alpine, it seems i don't. dunno where i got that idea from
2020-10-29T03:39:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha
2020-10-29T03:40:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> dylan's manual build process doesn't work anymore because when they released 2.0 they redid the whole build system in meson xD
2020-10-29T03:40:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Any luck at getting krita working in KISS-kde
2020-10-29T03:40:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> kde apps working better is next on the list :)
2020-10-29T03:40:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does it work at all atm?
2020-10-29T03:41:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> iirc it didn't even build?
2020-10-29T03:41:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> No worries was just wondering
2020-10-29T03:41:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> i didn't spend much time on them when i started
2020-10-29T03:41:26 #kisslinux <muevoid> I miss a digital painting app :(
2020-10-29T03:41:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> haha
2020-10-29T03:41:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Azpainter is the only thing I miss from Xorg a lot
2020-10-29T03:41:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah getting that stuff working is sort of the 'end-game' for this repo
2020-10-29T03:41:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha
2020-10-29T03:47:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> That would be an interesting project
2020-10-29T03:47:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> A digital art program using mypaint
2020-10-29T03:47:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> libmypaint*
2020-10-29T03:48:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> That is KISS
2020-10-29T03:48:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> simple*
2020-10-29T03:49:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> that sounds mad difficult
2020-10-29T03:49:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> It does
2020-10-29T03:50:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> Libmypaint itself only needs c and json-c
2020-10-29T03:50:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> with a loose dep on glib
2020-10-29T03:51:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> that sounds like a lot xD
2020-10-29T03:51:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> Better then mypaint, gimp, and krita dep wise
2020-10-29T03:52:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> You can avoid glib if you replace the rng
2020-10-29T03:55:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> a better bet tho tbh is port mlib to wayland
2020-10-29T03:55:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> mm
2020-10-29T03:55:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> noty :)
2020-10-29T03:55:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2020-10-29T03:56:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> noty?
2020-10-29T03:57:05 #kisslinux <himmalerin> "no ty" probably?
2020-10-29T03:57:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah im guessing that too
2020-10-29T04:00:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> mhm
2020-10-29T04:06:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> ld building libsamplerate complains about missing symbols
2020-10-29T04:06:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> i hate this
2020-10-29T05:48:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> kdenlive officially works. huzzah.
2020-10-29T05:48:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> programmers, take note: always make your mutexes abort or deadlock :)
2020-10-29T05:48:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nice!
2020-10-29T05:48:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> yar!
2020-10-29T05:49:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> next is a music player, kdevelop, and krita.
2020-10-29T05:49:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> but those are tomorrow.
2020-10-29T05:52:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> Where do you work on KISS-kde?
2020-10-29T05:52:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you have a seperate machine?
2020-10-29T05:52:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> nah just a partition
2020-10-29T05:52:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah gotcha
2020-10-29T05:52:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> duh
2020-10-29T05:52:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> sometimes I chroot in but when I need to do graphical things I boot in
2020-10-29T05:52:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Makes sense
2020-10-29T05:52:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> i need to get my other partition up and going so that I can more easily share data between the two...
2020-10-29T05:53:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> I hate web browsers so I have been thinking about trying to set up a chroot just for a webbrowser
2020-10-29T05:53:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> a lot of the work lends itself really well to just doing cli stuff, but this kind of work demands a GUI
2020-10-29T05:53:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> i considered using arch strictly for a browser for a while
2020-10-29T05:53:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> But the way I would like to do it I dont think is possible
2020-10-29T05:53:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> but then my work gave me a laptop to use so I didn't technically need the chroot anymore :)
2020-10-29T05:53:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> how would you do it?
2020-10-29T05:54:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nice
2020-10-29T05:54:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would love to have where the browser can use my shared libraries for stuff that I use for other applications such as gtk but keep anything I dont have on my main machine built inside the chroot
2020-10-29T05:55:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Even though as of rn only two things need gtk which are my web browser and pdf viewer(mainly since I haven't gotten oasis linux mupdf build script working here)
2020-10-29T05:56:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah, firefox builds a lot faster on this laptop than webengine so I feel super tempted to switch i just don't want gtk lmao
2020-10-29T05:56:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's a silly complaint but still one i have xD
2020-10-29T05:56:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm?
2020-10-29T05:56:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Or the fact that it uses gtk
2020-10-29T05:56:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> that it uses gtk
2020-10-29T05:56:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> firefox would literally be the only thing that needs it
2020-10-29T05:56:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> I personally highly prefer gtk over qt. But they are both big and bloated
2020-10-29T05:56:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> plus some xlibs :S
2020-10-29T05:57:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> :P
2020-10-29T05:57:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Webkit2gtk :P
2020-10-29T05:57:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> I really enjoy Qt's stylings over GTKs tbh
2020-10-29T05:57:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmaoooo no
2020-10-29T05:57:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'd go back to hardy heron if i wanted to experience old school stuff
2020-10-29T05:57:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Wyeb is pretty great for a modern browser or badwolf :P
2020-10-29T05:58:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> fair
2020-10-29T05:58:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> I get prefering qt though
2020-10-29T05:58:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> i should honestly try it; i don't use browsers for much
2020-10-29T05:58:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't either
2020-10-29T05:58:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> That's why it works for me
2020-10-29T05:59:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> and qt browsers keep crashing on youtube and reddit and other pages for some reason I can't pinpoint
2020-10-29T05:59:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> And with the changes I proposed to community it works really well for me at least. Issues I had in the past I dont anymore
2020-10-29T05:59:13 #kisslinux <konimex> doesn't opensuse have firefox with qt or it's just for specific things and it still needs gtk+ at large?
2020-10-29T05:59:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> I've been managing most of my PRs from my phone xD
2020-10-29T05:59:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> oh that sounds interesting...
2020-10-29T05:59:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lol
2020-10-29T06:00:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> I didn't think they did?
2020-10-29T06:00:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> I can't find it mentioned anywhere?
2020-10-29T06:01:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> Also do you prefer qt just for the license dilyn?
2020-10-29T06:02:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> isn't it *gpl?
2020-10-29T06:02:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> lgpl I thought
2020-10-29T06:02:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> I may be wrong
2020-10-29T06:02:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> I feel like I dislike LGPL more than regular GPL
2020-10-29T06:03:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Really?
2020-10-29T06:03:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> Why is that?
2020-10-29T06:03:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> From a permissive stand point wouldn't that be better
2020-10-29T06:03:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Because iirc you said you prefer permissive
2020-10-29T06:04:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> From that perspective, I'm fine with LGPL
2020-10-29T06:04:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> but from the ways I view commerce/cooperation/etcetc, I think it's strictly worse
2020-10-29T06:05:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> lgpl sounds roughly analogous to a form of exploitation the way I'm reading it. not a malicious form, but one nonetheless
2020-10-29T06:05:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> I tend to use MIT for any of my simple libraries I am working on. But GPL for anyting larger
2020-10-29T06:05:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> anything*
2020-10-29T06:05:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> well lgpl for larger libs and gpl for larger programs
2020-10-29T06:05:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> Luckily, I produce nothing. And therefore have no need to decide on licenses
2020-10-29T06:05:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Fair enough lol
2020-10-29T06:05:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> I went through a period where I could not decide
2020-10-29T06:06:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> I even switched to freebsd for a while lol
2020-10-29T06:06:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> the best part about licenses is the ability to relicense at any time
2020-10-29T06:06:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> True
2020-10-29T06:06:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> 'I'm feeling very apache today'
2020-10-29T06:07:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> more and more as I work on things I am starting to lean towards permissive
2020-10-29T06:07:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> but at the end of the day as long as it is FOSS idc
2020-10-29T06:07:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> license does not matter to me too much
2020-10-29T06:07:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> The one thing I will almost always do as gpl though is any games I work on
2020-10-29T06:08:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> Cause I see games more as art then software(obvi it still is software but my point stands)
2020-10-29T06:10:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> definitely
2020-10-29T06:12:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> from my perspective a lot of the discussion about licenses that amounts to actual tangible consequences (like zfs and the kernel) is so infrequent that license usage is almost essentially an agree-to-disagree problem, or an existential question that impinges on so many different beliefs that there would be better arguments worth having
2020-10-29T06:12:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> that being said, MIT all the way woohoo
2020-10-29T06:13:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think my license preferences go as follows: gpl, mit, lgpl, apache, zlib/libpng, ...
2020-10-29T06:13:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> as of rn
2020-10-29T06:13:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> But I completely agree
2020-10-29T06:13:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't think it matters for most people what license is used
2020-10-29T06:14:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> 'most' people don't know much of anything about computers and haven't ever heard of FOSS xD
2020-10-29T06:14:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> if its a lib imo at the very least it should lgpl but preferably mit. End software wise I don't think it maters at all imo
2020-10-29T06:14:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> I think we frequently forget that we are an impossibly small community
2020-10-29T06:14:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> I see that as both a good and bad thing a lot of the time
2020-10-29T06:14:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> oh yes
2020-10-29T06:15:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> I mean, if more people were wrapped up in this nonsense like we are mastodon would've taken off so much more than it has
2020-10-29T06:15:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I really like mastodon
2020-10-29T06:15:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> everyone complains about facebook and it's just like... right so... use...
2020-10-29T06:15:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> use the other one...
2020-10-29T06:15:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmao
2020-10-29T06:15:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lmao
2020-10-29T06:15:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> I recently deleted my google account
2020-10-29T06:15:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> It was amazing lol
2020-10-29T06:16:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> I've slowly been trying to cut out my realiance on companies online
2020-10-29T06:16:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> I've been phasing out my google account for the last year and just need to figure out how I want to handle youtube
2020-10-29T06:16:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> I've weaned myself off of that and moved onto podcasts and I think I prefer this
2020-10-29T06:16:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> For me newpipe on phone, ytdl + mpv for pc or invidous
2020-10-29T06:16:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> yea but if I'm not going to have a google account I want to detatch myself as much as possible
2020-10-29T06:16:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> Fair enough
2020-10-29T06:17:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have been slowly building up my dvd collection
2020-10-29T06:17:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> I basically only use google and amazon at this point insofar as I bounce off their servers to access websites
2020-10-29T06:17:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> So I do that for entertainment most of the time or music
2020-10-29T06:17:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> ooooooo that's fun
2020-10-29T06:17:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Amazon is one account I wish I could get rid of but cant
2020-10-29T06:17:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2020-10-29T06:17:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's the only place ik of to get mp3 music drm free
2020-10-29T06:17:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> (from popular artist)
2020-10-29T06:17:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> buy record player
2020-10-29T06:18:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> buy record
2020-10-29T06:18:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> rip to mp3 via usb
2020-10-29T06:18:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> ???
2020-10-29T06:18:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> profit
2020-10-29T06:18:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lol
2020-10-29T06:18:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's what I do ;)
2020-10-29T06:18:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would do that but where do you get your records?
2020-10-29T06:18:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> all over
2020-10-29T06:18:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> mostly local record shops
2020-10-29T06:19:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't know of any in my city but Im sure there is some somewhere
2020-10-29T06:19:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> discogs is always an option
2020-10-29T06:19:59 #kisslinux <micr0> individually shipping records over discogs is very expensive
2020-10-29T06:20:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> my biggest problem is my tastes are so nonpopular that it's hard to find records
2020-10-29T06:20:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> so true!
2020-10-29T06:20:14 #kisslinux <micr0> especially vs. local shop
2020-10-29T06:20:29 #kisslinux <micr0> but maybe, if you open your own record shop, to fund it...
2020-10-29T06:20:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> some vinyl subscription service rereleased a record I've been eyeing on discord for half the price so I snatched it up there and felt a little guitly
2020-10-29T06:20:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> don't give me ideas micr0 :X
2020-10-29T06:21:05 #kisslinux <micr0> share your discogs i need to re-make mine tho
2020-10-29T06:21:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> My collection of music is small at the moment https://termbin.com/6fi8f
2020-10-29T06:21:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> lordy
2020-10-29T06:21:32 #kisslinux <micr0> kiedtl yooo k1ss over gemini is perfect, i'd love to see the local wiki based off that
2020-10-29T06:22:06 #kisslinux <micr0> anyway i need to sleep, 2:30am here
2020-10-29T06:22:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> Alright seeya o/
2020-10-29T06:22:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> ix.io/2CmB
2020-10-29T06:22:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah same here >.<
2020-10-29T06:22:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> work in five hours...
2020-10-29T06:22:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk
2020-10-29T06:22:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Also you have good taste in music from first look!
2020-10-29T06:22:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> I mean I listen to anything though
2020-10-29T06:23:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's been about the same since 2011 :S
2020-10-29T06:23:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> No Queen :(
2020-10-29T06:23:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'm very particular about what I support
2020-10-29T06:23:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> Red Hot Chili Peppers is awesome
2020-10-29T06:23:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> I've never been a huge fan of their music
2020-10-29T06:23:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Fair enough
2020-10-29T06:23:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> You chould check out walk off the earth if you haven't
2020-10-29T06:23:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> rhcp sounds so monotonous xD but I can always jam
2020-10-29T06:23:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> they mostly do covers but I really like them
2020-10-29T06:23:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'll write it down
2020-10-29T06:24:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> covers done well are a-ok
2020-10-29T06:24:13 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gorillaz is another really good band I like
2020-10-29T06:24:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Tech N9ne
2020-10-29T06:24:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> So many good artist on this list lol
2020-10-29T06:24:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> Youtube? Lmao
2020-10-29T06:24:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> I've heard that make great music s
2020-10-29T06:24:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> that's just a collection of random songs i've found on youtube xD
2020-10-29T06:24:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> s/that/they
2020-10-29T06:25:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> like super dumn shit
2020-10-29T06:25:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> dropped the /g
2020-10-29T06:25:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> like a 14 hour version of nyancat jazz
2020-10-29T06:25:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> ALAS
2020-10-29T06:25:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> bed time
2020-10-29T06:25:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> gngn
2020-10-29T06:25:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> gn
2020-10-29T06:25:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> o/
2020-10-29T06:25:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> o
2020-10-29T07:17:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> o/
2020-10-29T11:32:07 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> anyone with commit access online? can you bump sfeed (just a version and checksum bump)
2020-10-29T11:35:28 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> Evil_Bob: you need to contact the maintainer, which is dylan.
2020-10-29T11:35:53 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> kiss m sfeed
2020-10-29T11:36:18 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> * `kiss m sfeed`
2020-10-29T13:13:30 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> ok i'll e-mail him, thanks
2020-10-29T13:25:17 #kisslinux <nerditup> could also open a PR against the repo
2020-10-29T13:27:20 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Evil_Bob probably can't open github in his terminal browser
2020-10-29T13:35:08 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> i hate github, sorry
2020-10-29T14:17:06 #kisslinux <nerditup> Fair! You could use the cli utility or the API directly too
2020-10-29T14:23:46 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> but you'd still need a github account right? e-mail is simpler and always works
2020-10-29T14:26:23 #kisslinux <E5ten> mcf: I noticed that samu has some printfs in tool.c with format strings that don't have any conversion specifiers, might be better to switch those to fputs("str", stdout)
2020-10-29T14:46:06 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> nerditup: generally, people shouldn’t be creating PRs on the community repo unless they are the package maintainer. You can raise issues if the package maintainer is not responding, but i think it’s best practice to try to work with the maintainer first (imo).
2020-10-29T14:48:56 #kisslinux <claudia02> aloha
2020-10-29T14:49:31 #kisslinux <claudia02> I dont cant test right now, but somebody packaged a port of palemoon. https://github.com/GullikX/ksrepo
2020-10-29T14:50:29 #kisslinux <nerditup> mcpcpc[m]: that seems reasonable too
2020-10-29T16:18:47 #kisslinux <onodera> my firefox building has failed twice now
2020-10-29T16:18:51 #kisslinux <onodera> what could be the cause...
2020-10-29T16:19:34 #kisslinux <onodera> https://camille.sh/hzI0.txt
2020-10-29T16:19:52 #kisslinux <onodera> this is where it goes wrong, no clear error or anything
2020-10-29T16:56:15 #kisslinux <nerditup> onodera: did you figure it out?
2020-10-29T17:03:05 #kisslinux <onodera> nope...
2020-10-29T17:04:54 #kisslinux <nerditup> can you link to the `check_binary.py` script that's on your machine?
2020-10-29T17:06:00 #kisslinux <onodera> should be the one downloaded by kiss...
2020-10-29T17:06:04 #kisslinux <onodera> ill try with keep working dir...
2020-10-29T18:44:23 #kisslinux <Gullik> claudia02: yeah that's me :)
2020-10-29T18:49:10 #kisslinux <Gullik> I still need to test the most recent changes, but it *should* work
2020-10-29T18:50:09 #kisslinux <Gullik> Give it a go if you want :)
2020-10-29T18:52:10 #kisslinux <onodera> since a week or so my alsa dmix stopped working, I figured out what caused it; im using the alsa-plugins speexrate rate converter
2020-10-29T18:52:19 #kisslinux <onodera> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:341:(snd_dlobj_cache_get0) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_rate_speexrate_medium.so (Error loading shared library : Invalid argument)
2020-10-29T18:52:49 #kisslinux <onodera> thought I do have this so installed (alsa-plugins provides it), does anyone know how I can fix it...? I already recompiled everything relevant
2020-10-29T19:07:00 #kisslinux <onodera> got it, alsa-lib includes a patch that broke it
2020-10-29T21:38:35 #kisslinux <himmalerin> mcpcpc[m]: I can still reproduce it: http://0x0.st/ikkD.png
2020-10-29T21:38:44 #kisslinux <himmalerin> it seems to happen after I've resized my terminal
2020-10-29T21:39:07 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> himmalerin: ah. ok. one sec
2020-10-29T21:44:17 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> himmalerin: oh. i can reproduce it. neat bug. lol.
2020-10-29T21:44:50 #kisslinux <himmalerin> glad it's not just me :p
2020-10-29T21:52:47 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ah. i think i know why. # of cols in terminal is checked after you press return, but not between character input. so should be simple fix. will open a bug to track resolution.
2020-10-29T21:56:53 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> himmalerin: https://github.com/mcpcpc/kirc/issues/85
2020-10-29T22:28:31 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> himmalerin: fixed the resize bug https://github.com/mcpcpc/kirc/pull/86/commits/4b61b535d1b037f30cdf22f47f07821e7961c256
2020-10-29T22:29:03 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> pull push the fix in the next day or two with the 0.2.0 kirc release
2020-10-29T22:39:01 #kisslinux <himmalerin> awesome, thank you for the quick fix!
2020-10-29T23:23:08 #kisslinux <kirc> vi kirc.c
2020-10-29T23:23:14 #kisslinux <kirc> woops
2020-10-29T23:38:43 #kisslinux <soliwilos> mcpcpc[m]: Could you throw me a mention? Testing with kirc. :)
2020-10-29T23:39:41 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> soliwilos: like this?
2020-10-29T23:39:59 #kisslinux <soliwilos> Yes, exactly. Thank you.
2020-10-29T23:40:15 #kisslinux <soliwilos> It worked.