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2020-04-30T00:12:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> MueVoid: did you end up getting a BSD system to test kiss on setup?
2020-04-30T02:31:13 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Which program do you use to view manpages? I'm not against writing build files if there isn't one available
2020-04-30T02:33:25 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Oh, it is mandoc that does it, I thought that was for building the manpages. nvm!
2020-04-30T03:15:42 #kisslinux <hechos> can use btrfs as fs?
2020-04-30T04:27:37 #kisslinux <hechos> can kiss b i util-linux "to build and install"
2020-04-30T04:29:51 #kisslinux <hechos> busybox checksum mismtach
2020-04-30T04:31:06 #kisslinux <hechos> !> Checksum mismatch with: busybox
2020-04-30T04:32:17 #kisslinux <hechos> should be delte busybox
2020-04-30T04:33:43 #kisslinux <hechos> okey kiss checksum busybox
2020-04-30T04:34:00 #kisslinux <hechos> im newbie on this things
2020-04-30T06:12:34 #kisslinux <hechos> grub give me errors for /dev/sda2 check device.map
2020-04-30T06:12:50 #kisslinux <hechos> maybe is a fs?
2020-04-30T06:13:03 #kisslinux <dylan02> Send the full output
2020-04-30T06:13:33 #kisslinux <hechos> how
2020-04-30T06:14:04 #kisslinux <hechos> grub-install --target=i386-pc --recheck /dev/sda
2020-04-30T06:14:17 #kisslinux <hechos> just two partiton / and home
2020-04-30T06:14:20 #kisslinux <hechos> gpt
2020-04-30T06:14:42 #kisslinux <dylan02> Try adding: >file 2>&1
2020-04-30T06:14:52 #kisslinux <dylan02> It'll write all output to a file called 'file' in your '$PWD'.
2020-04-30T06:15:06 #kisslinux <hechos> im lookign --debug
2020-04-30T06:15:35 #kisslinux <hechos> how can se to you debug?
2020-04-30T06:15:44 #kisslinux <hechos> no nevermind maybe is part scheme
2020-04-30T06:15:57 #kisslinux <hechos> work on void and arch but maybe is btrfs
2020-04-30T06:16:03 #kisslinux <hechos> compilen on kernel
2020-04-30T06:16:12 #kisslinux <hechos> install kiss to chroot with archlive
2020-04-30T06:16:35 #kisslinux <hechos> how can backup all compiled software?
2020-04-30T06:16:49 #kisslinux <hechos> i gone make basic scheme and ext4 part
2020-04-30T06:18:11 #kisslinux <hechos> all is in /var/db/kiss/installed right?
2020-04-30T06:19:21 #kisslinux <dylan02> That's just the list of installed packages and their repository files
2020-04-30T06:19:47 #kisslinux <hechos> aha so where is compile tars?
2020-04-30T06:20:22 #kisslinux <dylan02> ~/.cache/kiss/bin/
2020-04-30T06:21:21 #kisslinux <hechos> so this is all need to backup?
2020-04-30T06:22:21 #kisslinux <dylan02> The built packages, yes
2020-04-30T06:22:42 #kisslinux <hechos> you try to install on btrfs fs?
2020-04-30T06:22:52 #kisslinux <hechos> just mark on kernel
2020-04-30T06:23:01 #kisslinux <hechos> kernel as compile fine
2020-04-30T06:23:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> I haven't tried, no. I personally use ext4.
2020-04-30T06:24:12 #kisslinux <hechos> should be work if mark btrfs support right?
2020-04-30T06:24:41 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah
2020-04-30T06:24:47 #kisslinux <hechos> mmm
2020-04-30T06:29:55 #kisslinux <hechos> ohh
2020-04-30T06:30:00 #kisslinux <hechos> i boot on uefi mode.
2020-04-30T06:30:18 #kisslinux <hechos> so no work to try installing bios legacy.
2020-04-30T07:31:20 #kisslinux <hechos> dylan02: sorry im limit on my english and computers too.
2020-04-30T07:36:38 #kisslinux <dylan02> That's all good. Don't worry.
2020-04-30T07:38:28 #kisslinux <hechos> im compiling all again
2020-04-30T07:43:16 #kisslinux <hechos> can use lts kernel. or need to use 5.4
2020-04-30T07:43:22 #kisslinux <hechos> tide to headers?
2020-04-30T07:54:35 #kisslinux <dylan04> See: https://k1ss.org/faq
2020-04-30T07:54:39 #kisslinux <dylan04> Search for 'headers'
2020-04-30T07:54:50 #kisslinux <dylan04> hechos:
2020-04-30T07:59:10 #kisslinux <hechos> ?
2020-04-30T08:01:58 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylan04: hi, how is it going?
2020-04-30T08:02:18 #kisslinux <hechos> well compiling...
2020-04-30T08:02:34 #kisslinux <hechos> need how to figureout to due backups.
2020-04-30T08:02:44 #kisslinux <hechos> here with xeon but slow internet....
2020-04-30T08:03:21 #kisslinux <hechos> so in my work as two epyc servers
2020-04-30T08:09:58 #kisslinux <dylan04> dzove855: Good, how are you?
2020-04-30T08:10:55 #kisslinux <hechos> download firmware
2020-04-30T08:11:05 #kisslinux <hechos> just copy all content to firmware
2020-04-30T08:11:22 #kisslinux <hechos> anyways kernel compiling use what i need right
2020-04-30T08:19:08 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylan04: well good, how is the current situation evolving in your country?
2020-04-30T08:20:19 #kisslinux <hechos> bad really.
2020-04-30T08:20:26 #kisslinux <hechos> im from south america
2020-04-30T08:20:33 #kisslinux <hechos> here nothing is nice..
2020-04-30T08:25:47 #kisslinux <dzove855> hechos: ooh, yeahh in some places it's still not clear how it will evolve. ACtually in my country, they will start next week to open some shoppingcenters etc..
2020-04-30T08:44:56 #kisslinux <hechos> yeah seems to work grub install fine
2020-04-30T08:45:03 #kisslinux <hechos> right now compiling xorgserver
2020-04-30T09:26:05 #kisslinux <hechos> no i3 package any more???
2020-04-30T09:28:10 #kisslinux <hechos> well gone use sowm
2020-04-30T09:31:59 #kisslinux <dzove855> well i recommend you using sowm, i switched from i3 to sowm, and i don't miss it :)
2020-04-30T09:37:24 #kisslinux <hechos> no know, is basically looking code dwm.
2020-04-30T09:37:40 #kisslinux <hechos> but need a bar with time or ip adress
2020-04-30T09:37:47 #kisslinux <hechos> can survive
2020-04-30T09:38:07 #kisslinux <hechos> xorg is to heavy to compile even on xeon's
2020-04-30T09:51:27 #kisslinux <hechos> when boot just get keyboard lights and back to bios
2020-04-30T09:51:36 #kisslinux <hechos> maybe is kernel?
2020-04-30T09:51:49 #kisslinux <hechos> cannot see grub screen...
2020-04-30T09:51:58 #kisslinux <hechos> but install looks fine..
2020-04-30T09:53:11 #kisslinux <dzove855> you can use lemonbar for getting a bar
2020-04-30T09:53:21 #kisslinux <dzove855> or my setup is using conky instead of an bar
2020-04-30T09:54:08 #kisslinux <dzove855> did you installed grub right?
2020-04-30T10:02:01 #kisslinux <hechos> dzove855: yes maybe is btrfs
2020-04-30T10:02:52 #kisslinux <hechos> anyone can tell how can save all compile and config
2020-04-30T10:02:59 #kisslinux <hechos> to move across the machines
2020-04-30T10:03:34 #kisslinux <hechos> all on root?
2020-04-30T10:07:57 #kisslinux <dzove855> you want to sync between two machines?
2020-04-30T10:10:26 #kisslinux <hechos> no save info on compile pacakges and databases gpg to install to another pc when can get work fine
2020-04-30T10:14:59 #kisslinux <humaid_01> fix grub, grub-install
2020-04-30T11:48:05 #kisslinux <fehawen> dzove855: With conky as bar, do you manage to get sowm to ignore it? I managed to constantly move/resize the conky window when I tabbed through windows, because sowm treated it as any other window.
2020-04-30T11:50:16 #kisslinux <dzove855> fehawen: i use conky directly on the desktop and not as bar
2020-04-30T11:57:16 #kisslinux <fehawen> Ah okay
2020-04-30T11:57:44 #kisslinux <fehawen> That makes things easier :)
2020-04-30T11:59:38 #kisslinux <fehawen> Would it be absolute suicide to have an Intel M-5Y70 if one were to compile kernel, firefox, xorg etc?
2020-04-30T12:01:12 #kisslinux <fehawen> The M processors rest somewhere betwen Intel Atom and Intel i*
2020-04-30T12:11:07 #kisslinux <dzove855> fehawen: yeah much easyer :) i actually never liked to have a bar
2020-04-30T12:45:29 #kisslinux <claudia02> fehawen: Just build xorg over night or leave the computer
2020-04-30T12:45:53 #kisslinux <claudia02> after a baseinstall its just kiss b xorg-server and leave kiss doing
2020-04-30T13:04:05 #kisslinux <dilynm> Would not build Firefox tbh
2020-04-30T13:04:57 #kisslinux <dilynm> Ask a friend to build it for you xD
2020-04-30T13:05:46 #kisslinux <dylan10> It seems Firefox is related to the latest Rust.
2020-04-30T13:05:52 #kisslinux <dylan10> Which is funny.
2020-04-30T13:05:57 #kisslinux <dylan10> (The build errors that is)
2020-04-30T13:20:36 #kisslinux <fehawen> claudia02: dilynm: Yep, the M processors won't suffice really ^^
2020-04-30T13:21:16 #kisslinux <fehawen> Found a cheap Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro on the Swedish eBay, but with the M proc it'll just be a burden
2020-04-30T13:21:47 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually you could get a vps, build the packages there and just download the binaries
2020-04-30T13:21:55 #kisslinux <dzove855> that's what i plan to setup for my machine
2020-04-30T13:22:23 #kisslinux <dzove855> fork the packages i need, and just download the binary instead of building on my local machine
2020-04-30T13:25:03 #kisslinux <rircC74D6> fehawen: I have sucessfully setup kiss until xorg + webkit on an much older intel atom :P
2020-04-30T13:25:05 #kisslinux <rircC74D6> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sdsddsd1/kiss-s3d4/master/kiss-i586/scrot.png
2020-04-30T13:25:29 #kisslinux <claudia02> but its a spare machine I just let run and forget
2020-04-30T13:27:03 #kisslinux <fehawen> Might pop in later, bye
2020-04-30T13:50:00 #kisslinux <k1ss> dzove855: what vps do you usally use for that? does the specs matter?
2020-04-30T14:20:21 #kisslinux <dzove855> well i actually, i'm using ovh cloud vps, i did not have set it up yet, but it think the vps with dual core might work, since i will let it run at night with a cronjob, si the time doesn't mind
2020-04-30T14:29:14 #kisslinux <dzove855> and also it will cost 8€ per month, with 8GB ram and 40G disk space
2020-04-30T14:29:36 #kisslinux <dzove855> and just run a web server on it with directory index, and then just create bin packages like firefox-bin
2020-04-30T14:32:03 #kisslinux <dzove855> or push the generated binary into github, create a release tarball and then everyone could use it
2020-04-30T14:32:48 #kisslinux <k1ss> dzove855: hm what about the perfomance? does it matter at all?
2020-04-30T14:33:12 #kisslinux <dzove855> i don't think so, since it will run overnight, just need to setup correctly the numproc and it should work
2020-04-30T14:38:54 #kisslinux <dylan10> Yeah
2020-04-30T14:39:02 #kisslinux <dylan10> You _may_ struggle with ram for bigger builds
2020-04-30T14:39:12 #kisslinux <dylan10> Core count doesn't really matter though
2020-04-30T14:39:15 #kisslinux <dzove855> well 8GB should be enough?
2020-04-30T14:40:16 #kisslinux <dylan10> Oh yes
2020-04-30T14:40:24 #kisslinux <dylan10> I have 7GB in my laptop
2020-04-30T14:40:42 #kisslinux <dylan10> You may need a little bit of swap (say 2GB)
2020-04-30T14:41:09 #kisslinux <dzove855> that's fair enought, actually a swapfile should be enough instead of create a swap partition
2020-04-30T14:42:04 #kisslinux <dzove855> it will solve a lot of problems that i currently have on my local machine
2020-04-30T14:48:22 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> I run kiss in a virtual machine, it can run fine at 1GB ram but whenever i build the "bigger" stuff like rust i have to bump it up to 4GB ram + 1GB swap temporarily
2020-04-30T14:52:02 #kisslinux <dylan10> I use a swapfile as well
2020-04-30T14:52:10 #kisslinux <dylan10> I find it far easier to work with
2020-04-30T14:53:14 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylan10: i also find it much easier
2020-04-30T14:54:29 #kisslinux <dzove855> it allwos to enable whenever i want and increase or decrease in an easy way
2020-04-30T14:55:39 #kisslinux <dzove855> s/allwos/allows
2020-04-30T14:58:15 #kisslinux <dylan10> Exactly
2020-04-30T15:57:18 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan10: I have been busy debugging the eval thing, comparing each and every step from an arch chroot and found some differences
2020-04-30T15:57:25 #kisslinux <onodera> though I don't really know what to do with them
2020-04-30T15:58:50 #kisslinux <onodera> for example, roughly line 6580, with this command above it: `# Try sorting and uniquifying the output.`
2020-04-30T15:59:48 #kisslinux <onodera> this is what KISS generates: https://camille.sh/pteK.txt
2020-04-30T16:00:18 #kisslinux <onodera> and this is what Arch generates https://camille.sh/thVW.txt
2020-04-30T16:02:06 #kisslinux <onodera> this is basically the sorted output of an nm call a few lines earlier
2020-04-30T16:06:07 #kisslinux <dylan10> Right, so we're not sorting correctly (but only when LTO is in use?)?
2020-04-30T16:08:47 #kisslinux <onodera> eh wait one sec
2020-04-30T16:10:21 #kisslinux <onodera> KISS without LTO: https:/camille.sh/RJv4.txt
2020-04-30T16:10:43 #kisslinux <onodera> KISS with LTO: https://camille.sh/aFI5.txt
2020-04-30T16:12:10 #kisslinux <onodera> Arch without LTO: https://camille.sh/gFlB.txt
2020-04-30T16:13:10 #kisslinux <onodera> Arch with LTO: https://camille.sh/Fgrb.txt
2020-04-30T16:13:44 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> :q!
2020-04-30T16:23:44 #kisslinux <dylan10> B -> T on KISS and Arch just has C huh.
2020-04-30T16:23:46 #kisslinux <dylan10> Interesting
2020-04-30T16:23:55 #kisslinux <dylan10> It'd be worth checking on another musl based system as well.
2020-04-30T16:24:21 #kisslinux <dylan10> I'll try and setup a Void or Alpine chroot later tonight to test
2020-04-30T16:25:57 #kisslinux <onodera> ah yeah it might be a musl thing
2020-04-30T16:26:21 #kisslinux <onodera> did you make any progress with sound in flatpak btw
2020-04-30T16:26:24 #kisslinux <onodera> im seeing some commits
2020-04-30T16:30:12 #kisslinux <dylan10> No progress yet. You'll be the first to know. I'm still trying to get alsa-oss to build on musl.
2020-04-30T16:30:53 #kisslinux <dylan10> This should fix cases where OSS is supported but ALSA is not (I'm hoping libreoffice, minecraft and a few others start working)
2020-04-30T16:31:19 #kisslinux <dylan10> It's exactly like apulse only there shouldn't be the requirement that it be _inside_ the flatpak.
2020-04-30T16:42:10 #kisslinux <dylan10> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/8d2f4702950709ca9a6e26f420fac88a811821ca
2020-04-30T16:52:46 #kisslinux <konimex> is shasum 256?
2020-04-30T16:56:14 #kisslinux <dylan10> Yeah
2020-04-30T16:56:18 #kisslinux <dylan10> You use '-a 256'
2020-04-30T16:56:37 #kisslinux <dylan10> > [perl] owns '/usr/bin/shasum'
2020-04-30T16:56:39 #kisslinux <dylan10> OH
2020-04-30T16:56:49 #kisslinux <dylan10> Well, looks like I have to swap it back.
2020-04-30T16:58:27 #kisslinux <onodera> why would OSS be supported by not alsa
2020-04-30T16:58:30 #kisslinux <onodera> that sounds so weird
2020-04-30T17:27:13 #kisslinux <illiliti> i still can't build firefox. is there fix/workaround?
2020-04-30T17:30:04 #kisslinux <dylan10> illiliti: I'll most likely be downgrading our rust.
2020-04-30T17:30:46 #kisslinux <dylan10> I don't want to do this if we don't have to so I'm still trying to find another solution.
2020-04-30T17:31:11 #kisslinux <illiliti> ok. thanks!
2020-04-30T17:36:45 #kisslinux <illiliti> perhaps another solution is swap back to firefox ~70 ?
2020-04-30T17:38:03 #kisslinux <dylan10> illiliti: It's far too much work for me to un-break it on each release. The ESR also ensures that we get no surprises when updating (dbus, alsa, etc).
2020-04-30T17:38:26 #kisslinux <dylan10> Rust has no stable ABI though and we're seeing this in Mozilla software using it.
2020-04-30T17:42:37 #kisslinux <illiliti> next rust update may completely broke firefox esr to unfixable state...
2020-04-30T17:49:05 #kisslinux <dylan10> Yes. Which is why I suggest holding back rust until Firefox supports it.
2020-04-30T17:49:29 #kisslinux <dylan10> I'd just like to see if we can fix this in a less obtrusive way.
2020-04-30T17:50:02 #kisslinux <dylan10> NOTE: This issue may still occur on latest Firefox with latest Rust.
2020-04-30T17:50:16 #kisslinux <dylan10> (And it did happen once when we weren't on the ESR iirc)
2020-04-30T17:51:27 #kisslinux <illiliti> lol
2020-04-30T18:09:53 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I installed alsa-utils and alsa-lib to try and get sound working, but now firefox is failing to launch with "XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so" http://0x0.st/iedy.txt
2020-04-30T18:11:16 #kisslinux <himmalerin> that file does exist at /usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so
2020-04-30T18:11:36 #kisslinux <himmalerin> and it's marked as executable
2020-04-30T18:19:04 #kisslinux <dylan10> Try: 'kiss i alsa-lib'
2020-04-30T18:19:42 #kisslinux <dylan10> I can't reproduce at all (can anyone else)?
2020-04-30T18:22:13 #kisslinux <djt3> Hi, I have a package I develop in the community repo and I am the maintainter. Since I'm developing it on kiss linux, does it make sense to switch to a git release as opposed to updating tarball releases manually?
2020-04-30T18:22:52 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Running that command fixed it, odd. I ran `kiss i alsa-lib alsa-utils` earlier to install it after building it
2020-04-30T18:23:53 #kisslinux <dylan10> djt3: Sure thing. Sounds like it'd make things easier for the both of us.
2020-04-30T18:24:16 #kisslinux <dylan10> himmalerin: I'm glad it's working now. I'll try and figure out what went wrong.
2020-04-30T18:34:01 #kisslinux <djt3> ok thanks
2020-04-30T18:35:29 #kisslinux <djt3> so when i update the repo, should the version file be "git 1", im still not too sure what the "relative version" number actually means,
2020-04-30T18:36:12 #kisslinux <dylan10> Yeah
2020-04-30T18:36:40 #kisslinux <dylan10> Think of the second field as the version of the files (in the repository) themselves
2020-04-30T18:37:07 #kisslinux <djt3> ok cheers
2020-04-30T18:37:07 #kisslinux <dylan10> If ever an update needs to be triggered (but the upstream version hasn't changed), this second field can be bumped to do so.
2020-04-30T18:37:43 #kisslinux <hechos> guys basic deconfig should be work
2020-04-30T18:37:47 #kisslinux <hechos> from kernel.
2020-04-30T18:38:00 #kisslinux <dylan10> Yeah, that's what I use as a base for my config
2020-04-30T18:38:16 #kisslinux <dylan10> Just need to configure hardware stuff afterwards
2020-04-30T18:38:27 #kisslinux <hechos> for example?
2020-04-30T18:38:44 #kisslinux <hechos> just need i915 and ethernet and sound
2020-04-30T18:39:08 #kisslinux <hechos> i915 is on default think so
2020-04-30T18:39:19 #kisslinux <dylan10> Messing with i2c/elantech touchpads is a lot of fun
2020-04-30T18:39:29 #kisslinux <dylan10> There's the firmware you may need as well
2020-04-30T18:39:48 #kisslinux <hechos> is a desktop xeon very basic desktop
2020-04-30T18:40:05 #kisslinux <dylan10> Nice
2020-04-30T18:40:06 #kisslinux <dylan10> Yeah
2020-04-30T18:40:22 #kisslinux <dylan10> illiliti: Rust has been downgraded.
2020-04-30T18:40:32 #kisslinux <dylan10> Please let me know if this solves the issue.
2020-04-30T18:40:49 #kisslinux <hechos> im dealing with boot, right now im compile kernel with untouched settings and fs are ext4 so will give other shot..
2020-04-30T18:48:37 #kisslinux <hechos> no cant get work
2020-04-30T18:52:09 #kisslinux <hechos> just get blink led on keyboard and reset to the bios.
2020-04-30T18:52:18 #kisslinux <hechos> cannot see grub screen
2020-04-30T18:54:04 #kisslinux <djt3> try searching the gentoo wiki for your mobo or pc or whatever model name, i found a similar laptop to mine and it had a list of all the required kernel flags and firmware blobs
2020-04-30T18:54:46 #kisslinux <hechos> aha
2020-04-30T18:59:05 #kisslinux <himmalerin> What do I need to do to get alsa working? My kernel is compiled with support for alsa/my chipset and alsamixer lists the correct chip, but firefox won't output any sound
2020-04-30T19:01:20 #kisslinux <djt3> might sound obvious but is your default device and are all the required channel things unmuted
2020-04-30T19:01:48 #kisslinux <dylan10> Are you in the audio group?
2020-04-30T19:02:27 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I'm in the audio group, alsamixer says everything is unmuted and at max. I do need to choose the right sound card each time I launch alsa mixer though
2020-04-30T19:03:51 #kisslinux <djt3> no you cant dynamically change the sound card
2020-04-30T19:04:04 #kisslinux <djt3> you wanna edit /etc/asound.conf
2020-04-30T19:04:40 #kisslinux <djt3> add
2020-04-30T19:04:40 #kisslinux <djt3> defaults.pcm.card {cardnum}
2020-04-30T19:04:50 #kisslinux <djt3> defaults.ctl.card {cardnum}
2020-04-30T19:05:01 #kisslinux <djt3> and run: alsactk kill quit && alsactl init
2020-04-30T19:05:09 #kisslinux <djt3> *alsactl
2020-04-30T19:09:27 #kisslinux <himmalerin> that did it, thank you!
2020-04-30T19:13:28 #kisslinux <djt3> no problem :) i had the exact same problem after my first install
2020-04-30T19:13:35 #kisslinux <djt3> glad i could help
2020-04-30T20:00:16 #kisslinux <himmalerin> dylan10: Firefox builds successfully with the downgraded version of Rust!
2020-04-30T20:01:03 #kisslinux <himmalerin> the extra 12 minutes of build time is sad but it's a whole browser so not much you can do about that beyond getting a better cpu
2020-04-30T20:10:43 #kisslinux <dylan10> Awesome
2020-04-30T20:46:21 #kisslinux <claudia> ola!
2020-04-30T20:46:49 #kisslinux <claudia> I have packaged openspades but its segfaulting for me, may sb test this out?
2020-04-30T20:46:55 #kisslinux <claudia> dylan10: maybe? (:
2020-04-30T20:49:12 #kisslinux <claudia> openspades and glew from here https://github.com/sdsddsd1/kiss-s3d4/tree/master/personal-repo
2020-04-30T20:49:23 #kisslinux <claudia> the rest should be satisfied through kiss-games
2020-04-30T21:18:47 #kisslinux <illiliti> can confirm, firefox builds fine
2020-04-30T21:20:44 #kisslinux <illiliti> it might be stupid question but why firefox requires firefox-bin ?
2020-04-30T21:37:40 #kisslinux <dilynm> It doesn't?
2020-04-30T21:41:12 #kisslinux <illiliti> deps list https://termbin.com/azoa
2020-04-30T21:42:14 #kisslinux <himmalerin> It said that for me too. I had uninstalled firefox-bin in anticipation of using firefox, and got that message. Rebuilt firefox and the install went without issue
2020-04-30T21:43:52 #kisslinux <illiliti> i used to use KISS_FORCE to bypass this wtf
2020-04-30T21:50:13 #kisslinux <himmalerin> KISS style 0401 says avoid running ./autogen.sh and to look for an alternate source. Where would I go about looking for that "alternate source"? The package in question is freedesktop's desktop-file-utils https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/desktop-file-utils/
2020-04-30T21:53:59 #kisslinux <djt3> Hi, if I was maintaining a package on the community repo and it was in git format as opposed to tarballs, does it need any input from the maintainer to get updated, or are they automatically pushed out when the packages repo is updated]
2020-04-30T22:06:16 #kisslinux <illiliti> djt3: you need to bump rel if i understand correctly
2020-04-30T22:08:52 #kisslinux <illiliti> himmalerin: prefer 'autoreconf -i' over autogen.sh if no alternative source exists
2020-04-30T22:11:38 #kisslinux <djt3> ok thanks
2020-04-30T22:23:09 #kisslinux <aarng> djt3 it depends on the source, if it's a branch, it would pull that branch on every build so you are essentially version less and always have the package build latest
2020-04-30T22:24:02 #kisslinux <aarng> so you would have to manually bump the revision or people need to manually "re"install to build latest
2020-04-30T22:26:07 #kisslinux <dilynm> illiliti: that's strange. It doesn't in /var/db/kiss/repo/extra/Firefox/depends on my system
2020-04-30T22:26:07 #kisslinux <dilynm> ix.io/2ke4
2020-04-30T22:26:34 #kisslinux <dilynm> Is that the built version's depends file?
2020-04-30T22:33:49 #kisslinux <illiliti> dilynm: yes, /var/db/kiss/installed/firefox/depends
2020-04-30T22:37:53 #kisslinux <dylan10> I'll look into this in the morning (It's harmless).
2020-04-30T22:59:26 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan: in kiss help, the contrib command help lines use punctuation whilst the standard commands don't