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2020-04-27T00:01:09 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: Nope. But I get similar errors with statically compiling dash with libedit.
2020-04-27T00:01:15 #kisslinux <lieu> gzip builds fine though
2020-04-27T00:23:38 #kisslinux <onodera> eh weird
2020-04-27T01:17:32 #kisslinux <wychmire> Is the place to make an issue for a filesystem kisslinux/repo? The install guide says make an issue, but doens't specify where. Was hoping to request XFS
2020-04-27T01:17:47 #kisslinux <wychmire> Or get instructions on how to set it up myself
2020-04-27T02:51:57 #kisslinux <MueVoid> How many people here use full disk encryption if any?
2020-04-27T05:16:37 #kisslinux <dylan01> adamantium[m]: Don't worry about it at all. I'll handle it.
2020-04-27T05:16:47 #kisslinux <dylan01> I understand.
2020-04-27T05:19:14 #kisslinux <dylan01> onodera: Try rebuilding zlib and then gzip. I can't reproduce at all. (Can anyone else?)
2020-04-27T05:20:37 #kisslinux <dylan01> user343: I'll look into git. Also into the openssh source.
2020-04-27T05:21:04 #kisslinux <dylan01> (OpenSSH works fine. It's a 1.5MB download as well.)
2020-04-27T05:25:27 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Hey dylan01 do you personally think encryption is worth it?
2020-04-27T05:25:59 #kisslinux <dylan01> No
2020-04-27T05:26:22 #kisslinux <dylan01> For me it's just a hassle.
2020-04-27T05:26:40 #kisslinux <dylan01> Though it depends on your situation.
2020-04-27T05:27:01 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Fair enough. I mean I don't store many personal things on my laptop other then passwords which I use pass for. But I'm worried about passwords leaking from my browser
2020-04-27T05:29:23 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Do you use mdev or eudev?
2020-04-27T05:41:25 #kisslinux <dylan01> I run my browser as a different user
2020-04-27T05:41:39 #kisslinux <dylan01> It has no access to other user's HOMEs
2020-04-27T05:41:46 #kisslinux <dylan01> I use mdev
2020-04-27T05:42:04 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Couldnt someone still take your drive and look at any cached files
2020-04-27T05:42:41 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Im looking to try out mdev does it support plugging something in while the pc is running as long as it is configured in xorg?
2020-04-27T05:48:11 #kisslinux <dylan01> user343: Git now ships with manual pages.
2020-04-27T05:48:37 #kisslinux <dylan01> Mue
2020-04-27T05:48:54 #kisslinux <dylan01> MueVoid: I haven't tried device hotplug (nothing to plug in)
2020-04-27T05:49:19 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Ah I guess I will just try it out. Is it possible to install mdev instead of eudev during set up?
2020-04-27T05:50:17 #kisslinux <dylan01> It's possible to swap at any time
2020-04-27T05:50:28 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Kk
2020-04-27T05:50:42 #kisslinux <dylan01> Just need to follow the Wiki page
2020-04-27T05:50:57 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Kk I think I'm gonna skip on encryption
2020-04-27T05:51:13 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Maybe find a way to encrypt any cached files from browsers
2020-04-27T05:51:47 #kisslinux <dylan01> wychmire: xfsprogs is now in the repositories.
2020-04-27T06:02:10 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Great blog by the way! And congrats on being added to Distrowatch I hope this distro continues to see more users :)
2020-04-27T06:02:26 #kisslinux <dylan01> Thanks :)
2020-04-27T06:05:33 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Officially on my 3rd and hopefully last install
2020-04-27T06:08:49 #kisslinux <dylan01> Good luck!
2020-04-27T06:09:00 #kisslinux <dylan01> It should at least be a little easier this time around right?
2020-04-27T06:28:58 #kisslinux <MueVoid> It's actually been quite easy everytime this distro is very easy to install. I just am reinstalling cause i'm annoyed of lvm2 + cryptsetup with all the dependencies.
2020-04-27T06:29:17 #kisslinux <MueVoid> I'm switching to an EFI stub and no initramfs
2020-04-27T06:31:13 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Does the acpi guide use the acpid package or acpid included?
2020-04-27T06:33:51 #kisslinux <dylan01> It should really be fixed to mention which one (and to talk about both)
2020-04-27T06:34:34 #kisslinux <MueVoid> I could never get it to work lol
2020-04-27T06:35:11 #kisslinux <MueVoid> How did you go about learning how to make a distro?
2020-04-27T06:38:59 #kisslinux <dylan01> I knew nothing when I started
2020-04-27T06:39:27 #kisslinux <dylan01> I taught myself as I went along
2020-04-27T06:40:02 #kisslinux <MueVoid> What was the hardest part?
2020-04-27T06:40:24 #kisslinux <dylan01> Getting it to a stage where I could install it to hardware
2020-04-27T06:40:43 #kisslinux <dylan01> The question was "Is it ready?" "Am I missing something?"
2020-04-27T06:40:51 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Fair enough
2020-04-27T06:40:55 #kisslinux <dylan01> Which was important as I only have one piece of hardware
2020-04-27T06:41:03 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Yeah that makes sense
2020-04-27T06:41:22 #kisslinux <dylan01> Firefox was tricky as well
2020-04-27T06:41:37 #kisslinux <MueVoid> I imagine with how large of a package it is
2020-04-27T06:41:49 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Did you use alpine and void patches?
2020-04-27T06:41:51 #kisslinux <dylan01> The ACPI Wiki page is for the acpid package iirc.
2020-04-27T06:41:55 #kisslinux <dylan01> It depends
2020-04-27T06:42:09 #kisslinux <dylan01> If patches already exist I tend to use them.
2020-04-27T06:42:17 #kisslinux <dylan01> I've written a bunch myself too
2020-04-27T06:42:36 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Are they difficult to write?
2020-04-27T06:43:05 #kisslinux <dylan01> Not really
2020-04-27T06:43:15 #kisslinux <dylan01> It's just a matter of figuring out what's wrong
2020-04-27T06:43:25 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Im looking to trying to see if it would be possible to patch pam out of ly
2020-04-27T06:43:58 #kisslinux <dylan01> You don't even really need experience in the package's programming language. Once you figure out _why_ it's broken it's not too difficult.
2020-04-27T06:46:28 #kisslinux <MueVoid> It may not be possible to remove pam from ly looking through the code they use it quite a bit however I have zero experience with patching lol.
2020-04-27T06:47:52 #kisslinux <dylan01> MueVoid: You can patch pam out, yeah.
2020-04-27T06:48:40 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Really? That suprises me
2020-04-27T06:49:05 #kisslinux <dylan01> It's only really in login.c
2020-04-27T06:49:23 #kisslinux <dylan01> You'd have to replace the pam login code with soemthing else.
2020-04-27T06:50:32 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Hmmm ill look at it more after I get this install done
2020-04-27T07:22:05 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Is sx better then startx?
2020-04-27T07:26:25 #kisslinux <dylan01> I use my own
2020-04-27T07:27:03 #kisslinux <dylan01> https://termbin.com/jpkv
2020-04-27T07:27:09 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan01: some stuff that needs chmod'ing (i guess) -> https://termbin.com/cxsf
2020-04-27T07:27:33 #kisslinux <dylan01> ie, +w?
2020-04-27T07:27:35 #kisslinux <dylan01> lieu:
2020-04-27T07:27:49 #kisslinux <lieu> more like +x
2020-04-27T07:28:02 #kisslinux <lieu> or 755 idk
2020-04-27T07:28:05 #kisslinux <dylan01> Right
2020-04-27T07:28:21 #kisslinux <dylan01> It's not too important is it?
2020-04-27T07:29:22 #kisslinux <dylan01> Even LLVM uses these permissions.
2020-04-27T07:31:55 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Dylan01 how would I alias something using sh as my shell?
2020-04-27T07:32:31 #kisslinux <dylan01> The same as in bash/zsh
2020-04-27T07:32:41 #kisslinux <dylan01> alias name="cmd bla bla"
2020-04-27T07:32:44 #kisslinux <MueVoid> I meant automatically
2020-04-27T07:32:46 #kisslinux <MueVoid> My bad
2020-04-27T07:32:56 #kisslinux <dylan01> What do you mean?
2020-04-27T07:33:31 #kisslinux <MueVoid> For example in bash you have .bashrc so I could have something alias whenever using bath automatically for example music="mpv --no-vid ."
2020-04-27T07:33:41 #kisslinux <MueVoid> alias music="mpv --no-vid ."*
2020-04-27T07:35:01 #kisslinux <dylan01> What does the '*' do?
2020-04-27T07:35:12 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Nothing was just correcting myself
2020-04-27T07:35:21 #kisslinux <dylan01> Ah
2020-04-27T07:35:25 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Cause I didn't put alias in the first message
2020-04-27T07:35:28 #kisslinux <dylan01> It works the same in ash
2020-04-27T07:35:46 #kisslinux <dylan01> export ENV=~/conf/ash/rc
2020-04-27T07:35:52 #kisslinux <dylan01> Add something like this to your ~/.profile
2020-04-27T07:35:58 #kisslinux <dylan01> To tell ash where to load a file on startup
2020-04-27T07:36:04 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Kk thanks!
2020-04-27T07:36:07 #kisslinux <dylan01> ie, I usually set it to ~/.ashrc
2020-04-27T07:36:12 #kisslinux <dylan01> Then it works just like ~/.bashrc
2020-04-27T07:36:18 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Awesome
2020-04-27T07:36:35 #kisslinux <dylan01> Note: If you change .profile you'll need to logout/login from your session
2020-04-27T07:37:32 #kisslinux <lieu> bzip2's new build has broken symlinks
2020-04-27T07:38:00 #kisslinux <dylan01> Thanks
2020-04-27T07:38:40 #kisslinux <dylan01> Fixed
2020-04-27T07:40:03 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Did you ever look into adding support for libtls in ffmpeg?
2020-04-27T07:40:28 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylan01: looking at sx, it uses od -An -N16 -tx /dev/urandom | tr -d ' ' to generate a random hex number, is there anything to do that (using external commands is fine) that's completely POSIX (so like no /dev/urandom requirement)
2020-04-27T07:42:51 #kisslinux <dylan01> You just need to fork the package and enable it (also install gnutls)
2020-04-27T07:42:53 #kisslinux <dylan01> MueVoid:
2020-04-27T07:42:53 #kisslinux <dylan01> E5ten: 2 secs
2020-04-27T07:43:41 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Ah I didn't even know it required gnutls. Anyways thanks!
2020-04-27T07:43:43 #kisslinux <dylan01> `/dev/random` + dd
2020-04-27T07:43:43 #kisslinux <E5ten> plenty of time, I won't end up using it till tomorrow cuz it's almost 4am here
2020-04-27T07:44:32 #kisslinux <dylan01> I don't personally use xauth though (I can avoid this whole thing)
2020-04-27T07:47:07 #kisslinux <E5ten> /dev/random is specified?
2020-04-27T07:48:46 #kisslinux <dylan01> ??
2020-04-27T07:48:56 #kisslinux <dylan01> Instead of urandom I mean
2020-04-27T07:51:06 #kisslinux <dylan01> brb
2020-04-27T07:53:08 #kisslinux <mcf> posix only specifies a few paths in the filesystem: https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap10.html#tag_10_01
2020-04-27T08:44:26 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Thats unfortunate it appears the wacom driver requires udev
2020-04-27T08:58:37 #kisslinux <merakor> dylan02: https://ckyln.com/files/kiss-fix-install.patch
2020-04-27T09:32:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> I am attempting to get acpid working I have switched everything over to the acpid package using kiss a however I now cannot run acpi_listen I get the following error: acpi_listen: can't open socket /var/run/acpid.socket: Connection refused
2020-04-27T09:33:55 #kisslinux <aarng> E5ten: could you use AWK's rand()?
2020-04-27T09:36:46 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> muevoid I could never use it
2020-04-27T09:37:39 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan{0..9}: https://termbin.com/6o03
2020-04-27T09:37:46 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> always the same error
2020-04-27T09:38:35 #kisslinux <lieu> No use in specifying certain make flags as the install target just calls everything anyway.
2020-04-27T09:46:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm I will try more tommorow
2020-04-27T09:50:20 #kisslinux <lieu> muevoid: Did you start the service?
2020-04-27T09:54:16 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> wich service acpid?
2020-04-27T09:54:44 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> lieu
2020-04-27T09:56:24 #kisslinux <jedavies> Why is my curl wanting libtool to build? Other people can build curl without libtool OK?
2020-04-27T10:47:45 #kisslinux <claudia02> jedavies: curl builds fine on my end
2020-04-27T10:47:56 #kisslinux <claudia02> without libtool
2020-04-27T10:49:39 #kisslinux <uhohpinoccio> Hello
2020-04-27T10:50:38 #kisslinux <claudia02> hola!
2020-04-27T10:50:54 #kisslinux <uhohpinoccio> Got a question if anyone can help?
2020-04-27T10:51:10 #kisslinux <claudia02> dont ask to ask. just ask
2020-04-27T10:51:28 #kisslinux <uhohpinoccio> As there's no acpi command, how do people get their battery levels? A script? Currently I'm just catting the /sys/class/power_supply/...
2020-04-27T10:52:33 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://github.com/dylanaraps/bin/blob/master/bat
2020-04-27T10:52:47 #kisslinux <claudia02> Is an example
2020-04-27T10:53:15 #kisslinux <uhohpinoccio> Oh okay, nice that's effective
2020-04-27T12:36:03 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan02: my gzip build failed because of the addes --static flag
2020-04-27T12:36:09 #kisslinux <onodera> I posted a log yestersay
2020-04-27T12:36:15 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah
2020-04-27T12:36:19 #kisslinux <dylan02> I can't reproduce at all
2020-04-27T12:37:02 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'd like it to stay static too as it's related to package management
2020-04-27T12:38:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> Does adding '-fPIC' fix the issue?
2020-04-27T12:38:03 #kisslinux <dylan02> onodera:
2020-04-27T12:38:16 #kisslinux <onodera> no
2020-04-27T12:38:32 #kisslinux <onodera> might it be because my system is mostly LTO?
2020-04-27T12:40:12 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm not sure. I'll try and LTO my zlib
2020-04-27T12:40:20 #kisslinux <dylan02> If I can reproduce it makes things easier
2020-04-27T12:40:40 #kisslinux <onodera> i disabled all cflags and stuff
2020-04-27T12:40:43 #kisslinux <onodera> doesn't help any
2020-04-27T12:40:51 #kisslinux <dylan02> I can reproduce now
2020-04-27T12:40:56 #kisslinux <onodera> how?
2020-04-27T12:40:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> Just built zlib with `-flto=8'
2020-04-27T12:41:06 #kisslinux <dylan02> Then tried to build gzip with my normal cflags
2020-04-27T12:41:20 #kisslinux <dylan02> Exact output you sent me yesterday
2020-04-27T12:41:30 #kisslinux <onodera> ah I zee
2020-04-27T12:41:40 #kisslinux <onodera> weird
2020-04-27T12:42:03 #kisslinux <onodera> i see
2020-04-27T12:42:15 #kisslinux <onodera> building zlib with `-ffat-lto-objects` fixes it prb
2020-04-27T12:42:29 #kisslinux <dylan02> Let's see
2020-04-27T12:42:54 #kisslinux <dylan02> YUP
2020-04-27T12:43:02 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/Admicos/kiss-repo/blob/master/kiss-lto/files/optimizations.hook
2020-04-27T12:43:14 #kisslinux <onodera> i don't really know when to build such a file with this flag or not
2020-04-27T12:43:20 #kisslinux <onodera> for example gentoo-lto doesn't
2020-04-27T12:43:55 #kisslinux <dylan02> Good question
2020-04-27T12:47:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> What GCC/binutils patches does gentoo-lto use?
2020-04-27T12:49:33 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/InBetweenNames/gentooLTO
2020-04-27T12:49:36 #kisslinux <onodera> none it seems
2020-04-27T12:50:56 #kisslinux <dylan02> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gcc-patches.git/tree/9.3.0/gentoo
2020-04-27T12:50:59 #kisslinux <dylan02> wew
2020-04-27T12:51:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> Maybe something here?
2020-04-27T12:52:01 #kisslinux <onodera> it seems that the kiss-lto thing enables it for packages with --enable-shared
2020-04-27T12:52:05 #kisslinux <onodera> the fat flag
2020-04-27T12:53:12 #kisslinux <dylan02> Ah
2020-04-27T12:53:30 #kisslinux <onodera> don't know if it actually needed tho
2020-04-27T12:53:37 #kisslinux <dylan02> It'd be nice to know the exact "rules" (or more the _why_) though
2020-04-27T12:53:41 #kisslinux <onodera> for zlib it at least is
2020-04-27T12:53:48 #kisslinux <onodera> yeah I'm trying to create something like that
2020-04-27T12:54:41 #kisslinux <onodera> btw do you remember this eval problem from a while ago? did you find anything?
2020-04-27T12:54:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> Oh yeah
2020-04-27T12:55:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> I don't think I have.
2020-04-27T12:55:15 #kisslinux <dylan02> I've got time to look again now though
2020-04-27T12:57:57 #kisslinux <dylan02> > ../libtool: eval: line 1: syntax error: unexpected "|"
2020-04-27T12:58:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> Alrighty
2020-04-27T12:58:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm on it
2020-04-27T13:09:06 #kisslinux <dylan02> onodera: Found this: Nah, it's not related to lto. It's some sort of mismatch between libtool and/or gcc and/or binutils.
2020-04-27T13:10:37 #kisslinux <dylan02> Also: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libtool/2017-03/msg00009.html
2020-04-27T13:11:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> >
2020-04-27T13:11:13 #kisslinux <dylan02> >
2020-04-27T13:11:32 #kisslinux <onodera> lemme check
2020-04-27T13:11:44 #kisslinux <dylan02> > It seems to me that `lt_cv_sys_global_symbol_pipe` somehow gets to be empty and thus `$global_symbol_pipe` gets to be empty and thus the `||` happens.
2020-04-27T13:11:45 #kisslinux <dylan02> There we go
2020-04-27T13:12:13 #kisslinux <onodera> so there is some command missing or what
2020-04-27T13:12:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> > So, my recommendation is to run again under Bash with `SHELL` set to
2020-04-27T13:12:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> > it. If that still fails, try telling it to use GNU nm by providing
2020-04-27T13:13:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> > NM=/path/to/gnm on `configure` command line.
2020-04-27T13:13:18 #kisslinux <dylan02> A variable is ending up empty when it shouldn't be
2020-04-27T13:13:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> That's the issue
2020-04-27T13:13:31 #kisslinux <dylan02> We just need to figure out _why_
2020-04-27T13:15:17 #kisslinux <konimex> Isn't $NM on KISS end up on binutils nm anyway?
2020-04-27T13:15:25 #kisslinux <konimex> unless the default is somehow llvm-nm
2020-04-27T13:15:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah
2020-04-27T13:15:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> Found an older bug: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-libtool/2015-07/msg00000.html
2020-04-27T13:16:01 #kisslinux <onodera> konimex: though it happens with both binutils and gcc binutils
2020-04-27T13:16:09 #kisslinux <dylan02> > That this happens is not libtool's fault, it's generally caused by a misconfigured nm.
2020-04-27T13:16:22 #kisslinux <dylan02> Huzzah
2020-04-27T13:16:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> We have a misconfigured nm
2020-04-27T13:16:29 #kisslinux <konimex> gcc-nm? I forgot if it exist, but gcc-ar does exist
2020-04-27T13:16:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> (Whatever this entails)
2020-04-27T13:17:26 #kisslinux <onodera> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/sys-devel/binutils/binutils-2.34.ebuild
2020-04-27T13:17:29 #kisslinux <onodera> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/binutils
2020-04-27T13:17:49 #kisslinux <onodera> both use some flags we don't use, like shared, threads
2020-04-27T13:18:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll try them
2020-04-27T13:19:22 #kisslinux <dylan02> Still broken
2020-04-27T13:21:43 #kisslinux <dylan02> Hm
2020-04-27T13:21:56 #kisslinux <dylan02> The configure script is meant to check that it's set to a value which works:
2020-04-27T13:21:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> > # Do not use the global_symbol_pipe unless it works.
2020-04-27T13:22:05 #kisslinux <dylan02> Oh
2020-04-27T13:22:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> Here's where it's unset
2020-04-27T13:22:17 #kisslinux <dylan02> > if test yes = "$pipe_works"; then
2020-04-27T13:22:18 #kisslinux <dylan02> > else
2020-04-27T13:22:22 #kisslinux <dylan02> > lt_cv_sys_global_symbol_pipe=
2020-04-27T13:28:51 #kisslinux <dylan02> > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
2020-04-27T13:28:57 #kisslinux <dylan02> The configure check passes
2020-04-27T13:29:02 #kisslinux <dylan02> When it probably shouldn't
2020-04-27T13:33:54 #kisslinux <dylan02> If I set nm to gcc-nm:
2020-04-27T13:33:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> > checking command to parse gcc-nm output from gcc object... failed
2020-04-27T13:34:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> If I add -B to nm it still fails:
2020-04-27T13:34:35 #kisslinux <dylan02> > checking command to parse gcc-nm -B output from gcc object... failed
2020-04-27T13:35:42 #kisslinux <dylan02> Another bug report: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=33345
2020-04-27T13:36:55 #kisslinux <dylan02> Another bug report: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?t=28136
2020-04-27T13:47:08 #kisslinux <onodera> wierd stuff..
2020-04-27T14:03:43 #kisslinux <dylan02> Another one: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/51815
2020-04-27T14:05:42 #kisslinux <dylan02> Another: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/51819
2020-04-27T14:09:05 #kisslinux <dylan02> Another: http://git.openafs.org/?p=openafs.git;a=commit;h=3e9ea6107973ccc4fa3d405f5b5d76666bfd624f
2020-04-27T14:09:18 #kisslinux <dylan02> oops. Maybe not
2020-04-27T14:13:24 #kisslinux <dylan02> onodera: Does autoreconf -fis solve it?
2020-04-27T14:14:14 #kisslinux <onodera> in a build file?
2020-04-27T14:14:45 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah
2020-04-27T14:14:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> Before ./configure
2020-04-27T14:14:51 #kisslinux <onodera> lemme try
2020-04-27T14:14:52 #kisslinux <dylan02> For say, pkgconf
2020-04-27T14:15:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> It could be the pre-generated autotools stuff with the issue (non-lto compatible(?))
2020-04-27T14:15:18 #kisslinux <onodera> autoreconf: failed to run aclocal: No such file or directory
2020-04-27T14:15:18 #kisslinux <dylan02> Maybe the latest versions of libtool and friends will fix it.
2020-04-27T14:15:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> Try just: autoreconf -f
2020-04-27T14:15:28 #kisslinux <onodera> am i missing something?
2020-04-27T14:15:33 #kisslinux <dylan02> Oh
2020-04-27T14:15:37 #kisslinux <dylan02> automake, autoconf, libtool
2020-04-27T14:15:38 #kisslinux <onodera> this is pkgconf
2020-04-27T14:15:40 #kisslinux <dylan02> These three packages
2020-04-27T14:15:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> brb
2020-04-27T14:17:28 #kisslinux <onodera> does not fix it dylan02
2020-04-27T14:17:36 #kisslinux <onodera> for pkgconf that is
2020-04-27T14:18:03 #kisslinux <dylan02> Alright
2020-04-27T14:18:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> We can rule it out at least
2020-04-27T14:18:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> Every solution I find seems to be: "Copy paste a working value from somewhere"
2020-04-27T14:18:30 #kisslinux <dylan02> No one has a real solution
2020-04-27T14:18:35 #kisslinux <dylan02> or a reason WHY
2020-04-27T14:18:56 #kisslinux <onodera> the the problem is that lt_cv_sys_global_symbol_pipe is empty right?
2020-04-27T14:32:49 #kisslinux <onodera> tfw firefox build fails at the last linking stage
2020-04-27T14:34:54 #kisslinux <oste> brb
2020-04-27T15:01:17 #kisslinux <dylan02> onodera: Yeah
2020-04-27T15:01:28 #kisslinux <dylan02> It gets set to a blank value in ./configure
2020-04-27T15:05:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> onodera: Firefox fails with LTO or?
2020-04-27T15:08:11 #kisslinux <dylan02> (s/with/because of/)
2020-04-27T15:52:53 #kisslinux <user343> libffi fails to build - https://termbin.com/hfa1
2020-04-27T16:12:53 #kisslinux <dylan02> It builds fine here
2020-04-27T16:12:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> Can anyone else reproduce?
2020-04-27T16:13:44 #kisslinux <konimex> nope
2020-04-27T16:41:51 #kisslinux <user343> patch is simple: sed -i 's|fi fi|fi; fi|' configure
2020-04-27T16:47:44 #kisslinux <dylan02> You might want to report this upstream: https://sourceforge.net/p/zsh/bugs/
2020-04-27T16:48:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> zsh's POSIX mode could be lacking in other areas too. I don't recommend it as /bin/sh and I'm unaware of it being used in this way anywhere.
2020-04-27T16:48:47 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan02: seems so, im debugging atm
2020-04-27T16:48:54 #kisslinux <onodera> about firefox failing
2020-04-27T16:49:05 #kisslinux <dylan02> Alright
2020-04-27T17:03:37 #kisslinux <E5ten> aarng: that does seem to be specified, thanks
2020-04-27T17:42:59 #kisslinux <oste> does anyone know why firefox is choosing hack as the primary font (for its ui) when i have sans serif fonts installed?
2020-04-27T17:43:10 #kisslinux <oste> its almost as if its alphabetical in its decision making
2020-04-27T17:48:39 #kisslinux <oste> i.e. hack before open sans
2020-04-27T18:01:33 #kisslinux <xstefen_> * Most importantly. LEARN TO LEARN. Don't jump into irc at a moment's notice. Try and solve the issue yourself first. Learn to solve your own problems, gain a better understanding over your system and take control. Be a doer.
2020-04-27T18:01:38 #kisslinux <xstefen_> ./salute
2020-04-27T18:46:52 #kisslinux <mcf> E5ten: ?= is accepted for the next posix. i wouldn't avoid it unless you know of an implementation that doesn't support it
2020-04-27T18:47:23 #kisslinux <E5ten> Ah, didn't know it was gonna be in the next POSIX, that's good
2020-04-27T18:48:02 #kisslinux <mcf> https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=330
2020-04-27T18:50:26 #kisslinux <E5ten> is there any roadmap for when the next version of POSIX will be?
2020-04-27T18:55:30 #kisslinux <mcf> i have no idea. though i saw on the mailing list that a lot of accepted issues changed were recently changed to "applied"
2020-04-27T18:56:03 #kisslinux <mcf> so i hope this means sometime in the next year or two, as opposed to the next 5 or 10 years
2020-04-27T19:22:56 #kisslinux <E5ten> https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1151 I'm excited for this one, which was marked as applied a few days ago
2020-04-27T19:23:07 #kisslinux <E5ten> finally a POSIX way to get terminal sizes
2020-04-27T19:23:56 #kisslinux <mcf> oh, nice
2020-04-27T20:49:54 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan:
2020-04-27T20:50:07 #kisslinux <onodera> lt_cv_sys_global_symbol_pipe output on KISS: ""
2020-04-27T20:50:20 #kisslinux <onodera> on Arch: sed -n -e 's/^.*[ ]([ABCDGIRSTW][ABCDGIRSTW]*)[ ][ ]*([_A-Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*)$/1 2 2/p' | sed '/ __gnu_lto/d'
2020-04-27T20:59:32 #kisslinux <onodera> the `checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object` check fails
2020-04-27T20:59:38 #kisslinux <onodera> I suspect it is the inlince c++ code
2020-04-27T21:41:44 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Is there any way to tell the getty to auto log me in?
2020-04-27T21:55:44 #kisslinux <user343> https://wiki.voidlinux.org/Automatic_Login_to_Graphical_Environment
2020-04-27T21:59:29 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Thank you
2020-04-27T23:04:33 #kisslinux <user343> How to prefer ipv6 over ipv4? on glibc it can be done using /etc/gai.conf, but how to achieve that on musl?
2020-04-27T23:49:25 #kisslinux <MueVoid> Do you think it would be possible to port the kiss package manager to a *BSD system?
2020-04-27T23:56:16 #kisslinux <E5ten> other than the GNU-style usage of sed -i what parts of kiss don't work on *BSD?
2020-04-27T23:57:43 #kisslinux <MueVoid> I'm stupid sometimes lol didn't even think of that
2020-04-27T23:57:47 #kisslinux <E5ten> I guess also stat -c