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=========================================================================== Seymour Duncan =========================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: Invader --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : Pete Simko email : simko@acs.bu.edu Date of review : 4/7/94 Your musical style(s) : Rock, harder rock, really hard rock, blues Guitar or Bass : '84 Ibanez Destroyer Pickup features : HUGE pole pieces Cost : about 70$ american when I acquired it Purchased from : Um, not purchased. I used to roadie for a guy : who worked in a music shop and paid me with : equipment Impedance or other specs: Pickup being replaced : Stock Ibanez Neck/Mid/Bridge position: Bridge Other pickups on guitar : Stock Ibanez in middle (disconnected), SD Jeff : Beck '59 in neck Artists using this pickup: Don't know of any Reason for pickup change: Stock pickups were very weak, with almost no sustain Because... Perceived output level : Very hot. Don't expect a very clear sound when you play clean. Tone: Very well balanced. Tight bass, clear highs Candid sonic evaluation: A very good pickup if you don't mind the goofy look of the massive pole pieces and dumb name. You WILL get a good and dirty tone with this PU no matter how you twiddle your knobs. If you want a transparent clean sound though, this can't give it to you - you'll need another PU to get it. This is not purely a pickup for shredders though. The tone is much closer to the sound of Malcom Young than Joe Satriani. There's a lot of tonal coloration going on here. Your bass will be a little punchier, your midrange a little smoother. Since my guitar's sustain isn't that great to begin with, I can't really evaluate how the invader effects that aspect of my sound, except to say that it certainly doesn't make matters any worse. This pickup can also be split, and sounds very good when tapped. Volume levels do not change appreciably between settings. Styles and positions for which this pickup is (un)suitable: Country is OUT. And Jazz isn't really an option either. Not that you were considering this baby anyway, right? On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: 9 Are you satisfied with this pickup or still searching for *that* sound?: Yep. Considering the fact that my Ibanez isn't exactly a PRS, it gives me a good sound, very close to what I'm looking for. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: JB (Jeff Beck) humbucker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- name : Scott Andrews e-mail : sha3u@virginia.edu date : 4/25/94 musical style : metal, hard rock, bluesy rock guitar : custom (homemade) Warmoth strat features : 4 conductor cable; includes screws cost : $59 [that was 5 years ago; they are up to $69 now] purchased from: Charlottesville Music replaced : nothing - i built the guitar myself. position : bridge other pickups : neck is DiMarzio stacked single coil ripped out of an Ibanez artists using : Jeff Beck, i assume. perceived output level: medium loud. same as any average humbucker. the pickup is quiet. tone: a very balanced pickup. it has a straight-ahead, full bodied, humbucker sound. it's on the high output side, but not as high as "metal" type pickups like the Lawrence XL500 (see my review of that). candid evaluation: i play mostly metal through a tube preamp and a Mosvalve power amp. i like this pickup because it gives a clear balanced sound - not too treble-y, not too booming and bass-y; a very versitile rock and hard rock pickup. Kramer used to install these as the stock bridge humbuckers pickups in their 80s Floyd Rose "hard rock" guitars. EVH may have used them; i don't know. it gives a very nice bluesy half distorted sound when i turn the guitar volume control down. you can get anything from a barely dirty tone with the knob way down to a ZZ top rythym about halfway to a full hard rock GnR crunch with the volume all the way up. suitability: this pickup is good for everything from loud blues to metal. i use it for bluesy stuff, medium metal like Alice in Chains and GnR, and extreme metal like Pantera. the extreme metal doesn't sound as good as with a really high output pickup, like the XL500, but the versitility makes up for it. on a scale of 1 - 11: i'd give the JB a 9 for sound and an 11 for versitility. this pickup gives a great range of solid rock sounds, from low distortion all the way to high gain amp settings. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: STR-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : Pete Lyall email : plyall@csn.org Date of review : 9/29/93 Your musical style(s) : rock & blues Guitar or Bass : guitar Pickup features : it works Cost : ~$50 Purchased from : Musician's Choice, Ventura, CA Pickup being replaced : Stock Tele '62 Reissue neck pickup Neck/Mid/Bridge position: Neck Other pickups on guitar : Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder (Tele Bridge) Reason for pickup change: Feedback on original pickup (also, somewhat microphonic) Perceived output level : Output level on a 1-10 scale would be about 6-7 Tone : I found it a little bassier and muddier than I care for. It would probably be good if you were looking for a punchy pickup that didn't retain a lot of the original tele sound, probably good for distortion. I just found it a bit dark for a single coil. Candid sonic evaluation: I didn't ring my chimes - I returned it. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: I'd give it a 4. It wasn't what I was looking for. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: STR-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : Pete Lyall email : plyall@csn.org Date of review : 9/29/93 Your musical style(s) : rock & blues Guitar or Bass : guitar Pickup features : comes with tele neck pickup cover Cost : ~$50 Purchased from : National Speaker, Denver, CO Pickup being replaced : Stock Tele '62 Reissue neck pickup Neck/Mid/Bridge position: Neck Other pickups on guitar : Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder (Tele Bridge) Reason for pickup change: Feedback on original pickup (also, somewhat microphonic) Also, hated the STR-2 I tried first. Perceived output level : Output level on a 1-10 scale would be about 4-6 Tone : Clear, and very close to the original tele tone, without the feedback or microphonics. Could be a _little_ brighter, but overall I'm happy. It does have that trademark 'hollow' tone that I was looking for. In fact, I bought ANOTHER pickup (a 3rd) that has coil tapped operation, and I have held off installing it because this one sounds so good. Candid sonic evaluation: Overall, excellent. Clear, well articulated, and sounds good both clean and distorted. Styles and positions for which this pickup is (un)suitable: I would say this was an excellent blues pickup, with capabilities extending into jazz, country, and rock. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: I'd give it an 8. It was darn close to exactly what I was looking for. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: Hot Rails (neck and bridge models) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : Pete Lyall email : plyall@csn.org Date of review : 9/29/93 Your musical style(s) : rock & blues Guitar or Bass : guitar Pickup features : coil tapped humbucking in single coil form Cost : ~$75 Purchased from : Various Impedance or other specs: High (11k ?) Pickup being replaced : Various strat pickups Neck/Mid/Bridge position: Neck & Bridge Other pickups on guitar : Seymour Duncan Single Coil Stack/ Gold Lace Sensors Reason for pickup change: Originally modifying a Fender Squier. Later, to add meat to a Fender Strat Plus. Perceived output level : Super Hot. Will overdrive most amps' clean channels if run wide open. Tone : Great for distorted tones. Less so for clean tones. On one strat, the guitar now sounds more like a Les Paul than a strat because of the beef of the pickups. They are very strong in the midrange as well. On one strat, I have neck and bridge hot rails. The neck gets a great Santana like tone. The bridge gets a good Steve Morse/Brian May tone, and a variety of others, depending on the EQ of the amp & effects. I have these pickups fairly close to the strings. On my Strat Plus, I have only a bridge hot rail (others are stock Gold Lace Sensors), and I had the tech adjust it further away from the strings for greater clarity and less magnetic influence. In the coil tapped position, I can still get a pretty convincing strat/tele single coil sound. The full coil position yields a really nice snappy distortion (Richie Blackmore and hotter). Candid sonic evaluation: Overall, excellent. If you're trying to make your strat distort, this is how you should do it. Again, careful with placement relative to the strings. Styles and positions for which this pickup is (un)suitable: I would say this was an excellent rock/blues pickup, with capabilities extending into country. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: Are you satisfied with this pickup or still searching for *that* sound?: I'd give it an 10. It's a rocker. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: George Lynch Screamin' Demon --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : David Dudek (aka: "The Cybard") Date of review : 7/15/93 (purchased 8/91) Your musical style(s) : Heavy rock, psychdelic, thrash, grunge, jazz, Guitar or Bass : Kramer Striker 100ST guitar Pickup features : high-output humbucker Cost : $165 Purchased from : Music Mart, Buffalo, NY (OUT OF BUSINESS) Pickup being replaced : unknown (original...Seymour Duncan?) Neck/Mid/Bridge position: Bridge Other pickups on guitar: None. Reason for pickup change: I wanted to increase my output while decreasing unwanted feedback. My old pickup used to SHRIEK when the volume on the amp was high. Perceived output level : The output is very high when the volume control on the guitar is all the way up. However, the pickup is VERY responsive to adjustments to the guitar volume control. This allows for a very wide range of distortion levels from acoustic-clean too total shred and everything inbetween. This is the feature I like best, since I don't have a foot-pedal to control distortion on my amp. Tone : If I had a graphic EQ to describe the tone: bass <-------------> treble o = = = o high = o = o = med = = o = = low Candid sonic evaluation: Very powerful sound. Level of distortion (gain) is very adjustable with guitar volume control. I don't know what effect a tone control would have. Notes are clear and bright with a solid bass punch. Harmonics really ring out! Unwanted feedback is virtually eliminated. Styles and positions for which this pickup is (un)suitable: I would mostly recommend this pickup for heavy hard rock. Grunge artists might prefer a muddier sound than this pickup provides. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: 10 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: Hot Rails (neck) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : Greg J. Musi Date of review : July 22, 1993 Your musical style(s) : Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Guitar or Bass : Guitar Pickup features : mini humbucker (side by side twin blades) Cost : $85.00 Purchased from : Guitar Gallery, Washington, Pa Pickup being replaced : Stock Ibanez Single Coil (from an Ibanez EX 360) Neck/Mid/Bridge position: neck Other pickups on guitar : Stock Ibanez Single Coil (middle from EX 360) Stock Ibanez Humbucker (bridge from EX 360) Perceived output level : as Seymour Duncan says, the hottest pickup he makes. It is a VERY high output pickup, very LOUD, louder than any other that I have heard. Tone : Distorted it has a good balanced sound Clean it is a bit muddy because it distorts itself due to high output Candid sonic evaluation: Depends on what you want to use the pickup for. For Hard Rock Metal Leads, sounds very good. Compare to the intro to Sweet Child O'Mine by Guns 'n' Roses Clean, the pickup is very loud and quite bright Styles and positions for which this pickup is (un)suitable: Suitable for Jazz when played clean, big bright sound Good for Metal scorching metal leads. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: I give the pickup an 8.5. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: Vintage Staggered Strat --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : Tim Stanley email : tjs@eecs.umich.edu Date of review : 08.01.93 Your musical style(s) : SRV, Jeff Healey roadhouse rock, (and everything else generally) Guitar or Bass : Squire Strat (Korean) Purchased from : Warmouth Pickup being replaced : Stock Squire single coil Neck/Mid/Bridge position: Middle Other pickups on guitar : Lawrence L-250 in neck, DiMarzio Super Distortion Humbucker in bridge. Reason for pickup change: (see my Lawrence L-250 review) I use the Dan Armstrong 3 switch pickup select scheme (providing *all* combinations of series and parallel connections for all 3 pickups). I have phase switches on each pickup. Perceived output level : Low. This is not a loud pickup. Be aware of that when putting it in a system with humbuckers. It is not a problem, just a fact. Tone : I am not a serious stickler for totally accurate vintage sound (I won't get into flame wars about this sort of thing) - but this pickup has the Strat vintage sound. Which means trebly, high presence, even brittle. Candid sonic evaluation: As I said, it has the vintage Strat sound. For these customized non-traditional setups, having a strat-like pickup in the middle is a terrific compromise because *some* strat sounds are still always available to you when you want them, and I really like that middle strat pickup in combination with either the neck or bridge. The vintage strat in the middle really rounds out the flexibility of this setup. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: an 11 for its success at getting the vintage strat sound. Are you satisfied with this pickup or still searching for *that* sound?: I am satisfied and won't change it. But I would pick a Texas wound version for more output next time - especially since it sits next to two humbuckers and may be more suited to my style. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: Tele Quarter Pound Lead --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : David Nye email : nyeda@uwec.edu Date of review : 17May94 Your musical style(s) : rock, blues, some jazz and country Guitar or Bass : '65 Fender Custom Telecaster Pickup features : single coil, drop-in bridge pickup replacement with a little higher output and warmth than the original Cost : $50 Purchased from : American Musical Supply Pickup being replaced : Original (dead) pickup Neck/Mid/Bridge position: bridge Other pickups on guitar : Gibson PAF humbucker in neck position Reason for pickup change: Original died, and I wanted one with an output that more closely matched the humbucker Perceived output level : Just slightly under that of the humbucker, almost twice that of the original Tone: clean, balanced, better definition of individual strings than the humbucker, but lacks that very trebly "Tele twang" Candid sonic evaluation: There is always going to be a tradeoff between treble response and output. I wanted a pickup that came closer to the neck humbucker in output and this works well, but at the expense of that Tele twang. I like the tone as much as the PAF, though, maybe more, although it would be nice to have more difference in frequency response between the two. Styles and positions for which this pickup is (un)suitable: designed as a replacement for Tele bridge pickup. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: 8 Are you satisfied with this pickup or still searching for *that* sound?: I'll keep it in for a while anyway. It has a very nice sound, but maybe not trebly enough. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer: Seymour Duncan Model: Custom Soapbar --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your name : Erik Miller email : emiller@berksys.com Date of review : 27 December 1994 Your musical style(s) : rock Guitar or Bass : 60's Epiphone Coronet Pickup features : Hot-rodded P-90 type Cost : $60.00 Purchased from : Gelb Music, Redwood City, CA Impedance or other specs : DC resistance 14.6 K Pickup being replaced : Duncan Hot Soapbar Neck/Mid/Bridge position : Bridge Other pickups on guitar : None Artists using this pickup: nobody famous that I know of Reason for pickup change: The original P-90 was too thin and the Hot Soapbar had a midrange hump that I wanted to smooth out. Perceived output level : It's the hottest passive pickup I've seen. Check the D.C. resistance; it's about twice what a stock Fender single-coil or Gibson humbucker is. In the Duncan catalog chart, it's up there with the Hot Rails and Invader on the output scale. I had to hunt to find a chorus pedal that could take the signal without breaking up. Tone: It's true to the P-90 style. More bottom than a Fender, more top than a humbucker, not as sparkling and cutting as a Fender. Candid sonic evaluation: It's an "off the beaten path" kind of tone. If you want to sound just like most of the guys on the records, get a humbucker or a Strat type pickup. For me, Strats are too thin, and humbuckers are too thick. The P-90 is idiosyncratic enough to capture my interest, and my first electric had a pair of them in it. Been chasing that tone ever since:-). Compared to a regular P-90, this is way hotter, and tonally a bit bassier. The Duncan Hot Soapbar has more midrange which sounds great with distortion, but was just too honky for me for clean work. Styles and positions for which this pickup is (un)suitable: I've gotten everything from death metal chunk to chirpy funk clucks out of it. I think it's best for a Neil Young/Bob Mould/My Bloody Valentine/Dinosaur Jr. kind of fine distortion, but that's just what I tend to use it for. Gibson designed the P-90 to be appropriate for any kind of music, and it's tonally faithful to that. On a scale of 1 to 11, I give this pickup a: 9. It hits its mark. However, I do wish Duncan gave us P-90 heads more to choose from than just the two special designs and the one vintage clone. Also, take note that it only ships with "soap bar" mounting. Gibson used two different methods of mounting this type of pickup. One was the "soapbar," where the pickup sat in a cavity just its size, held in place by two screws through the middle, and the "dog ear" method, with a mounting bracket that was held in place by two screws, one at each end of the bracket (kind of like the bracket a humbucker sits in). This last method uses a rectangular cover with triangular "ears" at each end; the "soap bar" uses a rectangular cover that fits over just the pickup. If your guitar uses the "dog ear" method, you will likely have to disassemble the pickup from its bottom plate and reassemble it on the "dog ear" bracket. At this point, the nice Seymour Duncan wax potting process that keeps your high-gain rig from squealing gets somewhat compromised. I chose to send the whole assembly back to the Duncan Custom Shop for re- potting, a $10 process. If squealing is not a problem, don't bother re-potting it. So unless your guitar is one of the Les Pauls or SG's or non-reverse Firebirds that used the "soap bar" style (any of the archtops, for instance), you have more than the usual drop in and solder installation to contend with. Are you satisfied with this pickup or still searching for *that* sound?: It's the best that I've found, but I'm always open to further developments. I've deliberately limited myself to the P-90 form factor so as to have fewer distractions when it comes to customization options. They are the coolest looking pickups, I think. Addendum from Erik: 01/26/95 Hey, Tim, I just got back from the NAMM show, where (among other things) I spoke with Evan at Seymour Duncan regarding their P-90 replacements. I knocked them for only shipping the thing with the soapbar mounting bracket, but Evan told me that they are now shipping the Antiquity model with the dog-ear bracket, and may extend that option to the rest of the P-90 line if enough people request it. =========================================================================== Miscellaneous Info =========================================================================== Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar From: collins_jim@tandem.com (Jim Collins) Subject: Pearly Gates pickups Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar Nntp-Posting-Host: 130.252.1.138 Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc. Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 18:07:15 GMT X-Disclaimer: This article is not the opinion of Tandem Computers, Inc. Hi all, Yesterday, I put a set of Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates pickups in a Les Paul. The results were very pleasing. First, why did I do it. I had been using Gibson '57 Classics in that guitar, and I really liked them, but they didn't seem to work with all of my amps. They are beautiful with clean, full sounding amps, like an old Twin Reverb, Pro Reverb or Marshall Bluesbreaker. I never liked them when I played through a '63 Vibroverb reissue or a '62 Fender Deluxe. Those two amps are outstanding for single coil guitars, but humbuckers seem to overdrive them too easily, and turn the tone to mush right away. This is one reason I use two amps in my setup, the Vibroverb and some cleaner amp, because I switch between a Les Paul, a Strat and a Tele. I wanted a humbucker that would not turn the Vibroverb to mush, but instead give me a warm, articulated tone. I figured that the root of the problem with the Gibson was actually its strongest feature -- its fullness of tone. (Remember that with a full sounding clean amp, these are great pickups.) I reasoned that I needed a pickup with more midrange, but not so much that it would sound too harsh, so I decided to try the Pearly Gates. The Pearly Gates was originally designed for Billy Gibbons. I like his playing, but I've never really been drawn to his tone, so this was a real experiment. The Pearly Gates gave me exactly what I was looking for. They have a sound similar to a classic humbucker, but with more mids, but not too much. When I plugged the Les Paul into the Vibroverb, with the same old settings that turned the Classic '57s to mush, a great warm tone emerged. The Guitar Player pickup shootout described the Gibson '57s as sounding like Dickey Betts, and they do, but it's like the Dickey Betts of the Ramblin' Man days, provided you use a fairly clean, full sounding amp. The Pearly Gates through the Vibroverb yields a sound much closer the the Dickey Betts of today. (As it turns out, the Allman Bros. are currently on tour, and Dickey is playing a Paul Reed Smith McCarty model, with at least one Pearly Gates in it. Yep, that's right, no Les Paul. I 'bout fell out of my seat when I saw that.) Anyway, I was not out looking to duplicate Dickey's tone, I just wanted to make the Les Paul perform through the Vibroverb and the Deluxe. It really does. It also sounds great through the clean sounding amps, like the Pro Reverb. The Les Paul through the Deluxe at low volumes sounds beautiful. I was up until about 1:00 AM playing it nice and low, A/B testing with another Les Paul with the Classic '57s. The Pearly Gates respond well to rolling off the tone knob. Most (not all) other humbuckers I've tried turn very muddy when you roll off too much tone. The Gibsons are like this. The Pearly Gates still have a punchy, articulated tone with a good deal of the treble rolled off. They also sound good at any volume level. Many humbuckers need the guitar's volume pot full on before they really shine. These are different in that respect. One more technical note. The Pearly Gates have Alnico II magnets, which is different from the Classic '57s. My only other experience with Alnico II magnets is on a Strat with Duncan Alnico II Pros. I never knew what reviewers meant by "transparent" until I tried those Strat pickups. Very smooth. Well, that's it. Jimmy From collins_jim@tandem.com Fri Dec 2 18:58:39 1994 Newsgroups: alt.guitar From: collins_jim@tandem.com (Jim Collins) Subject: Re: Seymore Duncan Alnico Picks...Opinion? Followup-To: alt.guitar Nntp-Posting-Host: 130.252.1.130 Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc. Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 17:55:09 GMT X-Disclaimer: This article is not the opinion of Tandem Computers, Inc. In article <230358Z29111994@anon.penet.fi>, an138114@anon.penet.fi (Firehouse) wrote: > > Hi.. > > I am looking to replace my pickups with Seymore Duncan Alnico Picks! > > Any Opinion on their Alnico Pro II Humbucker and Alnico Jr. Humbucker? > > Thanks in advance! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, of course, everything depends upon the sound you want. I had the Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro Humbuckers in a Les Paul that I no longer have. I liked them a lot, but they weren't my favorite humbuckers. They had a good, smooth sound without a lot of edge on the top end. It was a very big sound. I happen to like things a bit brighter than that, but for certain tunes, these things really nailed it when the guitar's volume pot was way up. Through a Vibro King at a fairly low volume, around 3.5, the neck pickup gave me a sound that would be comfortable in any Allman Bros. tune. It was not a Dickey Betts tone, but it was in that vein. If you like it brighter, but still like the quality of the tone given by the Alnico II pickups, try the Pearly Gates. They also use an Alnico II magnet, but they have more top end, a bit more mids, and a little less bottom. Great blues tone when used without any distortion. I've got these in a couple of Les Pauls, and I love 'em. It seems that pickups with Alnico II magnets have much less of a brittle or glassy quality than the same pickup with an Alnico IV magnet. I have a '62 reissue Strat with SD staggered Alnico II pickups in it, and they are terrific in that guitar. It is unmistakably a Strat sound, but it is has a deeper throat. The bridge pickup alone -- no tone control on that pickup -- is a very usable sound on that guitar. In fact, I use it all the time. I figure that is a pretty good test, because a lot of Strat players seem to shy away from using the bridge pickup alone, because it is often too shrill. Jimmy From jstemwedel@pomona.edu Wed Dec 7 10:56:18 1994 From: jstemwedel@pomona.edu Newsgroups: alt.guitar Subject: Re: Seymore Duncan Alnico Picks...Opinion? Followup-To: alt.guitar Date: 5 Dec 94 23:59:31 PDT Organization: Pomona College NNTP-Posting-Host: thumper.pomona.edu In article <collins_jim-011294092759@130.252.1.130>, collins_jim@tandem.com (Jim Collins) writes: > It seems that pickups with Alnico II magnets have much less of a brittle > or glassy quality than the same pickup with an Alnico IV magnet. I have a > '62 reissue Strat with SD staggered Alnico II pickups in it, and they are > terrific in that guitar. It is unmistakably a Strat sound, but it is has a > deeper throat. The bridge pickup alone -- no tone control on that pickup > -- is a very usable sound on that guitar. In fact, I use it all the time. > I figure that is a pretty good test, because a lot of Strat players seem to > shy away from using the bridge pickup alone, because it is often too > shrill. On the nose. My strat's got SD Alnico II's, as I posted before. Swamp ash body, maple fretboard, so you'd expect it to be treblier than a '62 reissue. And I use the bridge *most of the time*. It's got edge and twang on it, but it isn't piercing and shrill. I used to use neck or neck and middle most of the time on my old stratish thing, but I'm a convert. No other strat I've used has been so sweet on the bridge pickup tone. Now I use my neck pickup mainly to roll down the tone knob and go for an aproximation of a fat jazz hollowbody tone, and it's *sweet*. Seymour Duncan's definitely got some mojo happening in these suckers. j.p.