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~chaote

Hello inquiry, you have put my feelings into words exactly (except for that last sentence maybe). Happy to see someone like-minded (at least to a degree) in a place like this <cheers>

Especially what you wrote about people being stuck in an infinite loop of certainty of being right...

Our abilities of perception are so limited, to believe that one knows everything better and judges reality perfectly and objectively is just...naive. Sadly I am confronted with these thought patterns in my family a lot, and it makes talking to them soooo arduous.

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~inquiry wrote:

For me the "arduous-ity" remains the same (yes, a now somewhat ancient song reference..) regardless the degree of "familial-arity". These days I take the for-shit ratio of satisfaction to effort in communicating with others evidence the more blessed direction is becoming unfamiliar with distinction between alleged "self" and alleged "others", because so stark an implied conceptuality context misalignment is akin to considering misunderstanding a lottery win.

There's really nothing to do by sink back into the awareness from which notions aka re-presentations (of un-re-presentational <this text represents the ineffability thereof>) first establish a seeming subject of all non-subject to the point of said subject becoming painfully convinced of being *that* separate.

While your kilometre-age may vary, the following verbiage continues to have the best chance of provoking deliverance relative to "my" particular conceptuality context, all past studies considered:

          abide in awareness
      with no illusion of person
you will be instantly free and at peace

Cheers!