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< Modernism, Post-modernism, and Neo-modernism.
I'm either not explaining myself well or everyone here is being deliberately obtuse. I'll give everyone the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the former. Dreams are, like all thoughts, the product of physical processes that occur in the brain. We lack the apparatus to measure this effectively, but this is the case.
I also never said consciousness was the same as a rendering. I'm looking at my old comment and I wonder where this idea of yours came from. Please address the words I actually say and not ones you have come up with for me.
In addition, a computer of sufficient complexity would have to be conscious - it's frankly ridiculous to think consciousness wouldn't arise in sufficiently complex AI. Consciousness is not some magical soul force or anything of the type.
I think it might be the case that you are not explaining yourself well. I've read all the threads here and although you can argue that somethings you didn't say they do seem a bit implicit in your text.
Furthermore, it seems you are holding an ultra objectivist framework of thinking and want others to use this same framework to engage in this conversation, maybe that is why you think people are possibly being obtuse. They are not, they are simply not using your same framework of reasoning.