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}UIBM??}The following message was delivered at Grace Community Church in Panorama 
City, California, By John MacArthur Jr.  It was transcribed from the tape,
GC 90-55, titled "Charismatic Chaos" Part 4.  A copy of the tape can be 
obtained by writing, Word of Grace, P.O. Box 4000, Panorama City, CA 91412.

I have made every effort to ensure that an accurate transcription of the 
original tape was made.  Please note that at times sentence structure may 
appear to vary from accepted English conventions.  This is due primarily to 
the techniques involved in preaching and the obvious choices I had to make in 
placing the correct punctuation in the article.

It is my intent and prayer that the Holy Spirit will use this transcription 
of the sermon, "Charismatic Chaos" Part 4, to strengthen and encourage the 
true Church of Jesus Christ.

Scriptures quoted in this message are from the New American Standard Bible.



                         Charismatic Chaos - Part 4
                                     by
                               John MacArthur


Tonight, we have the great privilege, I think, of looking at a subject that 
is important to all of us.  I am not going to be dealing with a specific 
text, although we will cover a number of texts before we are through tonight.  
But I want to carry on our special study of "Charismatic Chaos," looking and 
evaluating the Charismatic movement from the Word of God, by focusing on the 
issue of interpreting the Bible.  One of the things that allows for the 
Charismatic movement to continue, to move ahead, is that it is engaged in 
misinterpretation of Scripture.  I know that is a strong thing to say, but it 
is true.  The movement continues at really an amazing pace, not only in 
America but around the world.  And as it moves and catapults itself along it 
does so at the expense of Scripture.  

There is, in my judgment, very little understanding, in the Charismatic 
movement, of proper Bible interpretation.  Much of what exists in the 
Charismatic movement could be eliminated with just some very simple straight 
forward basic understanding of how to properly interpret the Bible.  It falls 
technically under the title "Hermeneutics."   Hermenutics is a theologians 
word to explain the science of Bible interpretation.  And Hermenutics is a 
crucial building block in discerning theology.  In fact, the absence of 
Hermeneutics or misunderstanding of it feeds the Charismatic movement.  
Pentecostals and Charismatics tend to base much of their teaching on poor 
principles of Bible interpretation.  

One of their own, a Pentecostal by the name of Gordon Fee, has written this, 

      Pentecostals, in spite of some of their excesses, are frequently 
      praised for recapturing for the Church her joyful radiance, 
      missionary enthusiasm, and life in the Spirit.  But they are at 
      the same time noted for bad Hermenutics.  First, their attitude 
      towards Scripture regularly has included a general disregard for 
      scientific exegesis and carefully thought out Hermenutics.  In 
      fact, Hermenutics has simply not been a Pentecostal thing.  
      Scripture is the Word of God and is to be obeyed.  In place of 
      scientific Hermenutics there developed a kind of pragmatic 
      Hermenutics.  Obey what should be taken literally--spiritualize, 
      allegorize, or devotionalize the rest.  Secondly, it is probably 
      fair and important to note that in general, the Pentecostal's 
      experience has preceded their Hermenutics.  In a sense, the 
      Pentecostal tends to exegete his experience. 

This is not, as I said, the appraisal of someone hostile to the movement, but 
the appraisal of one who is himself a Pentecostal.  His assessment is "right 
on."  You only have to watch the typical Charismatic television program to 
see exactly what he is talking about.  

You might have watched, along with some of us, in horror sometime back if you 
happened to be watching the Trinity Broadcasting Network, they were 
interviewing a guest on one of their "Talk Shows," and he was explaining the 
Biblical basis of his ministry of "Possibility Thinking."  This is a quote, 
"My ministry is based entirely on my life verse, Matthew 19:26, 'With God all 
things are possible.'  God gave me that verse (Matthew 19:26) because I was 
born in 1926."  Obviously, intrigued by that method of obtaining a life 
verse, the host grabbed a Bible and began thumbing through it excitedly.  "I 
was born in 1934," he said.  "My life verse must be Matthew 19:34!  What does 
it say?"  Then he discovered that Matthew 19 has only 30 verses!  Undeterred, 
he flipped to Luke, and read Luke 19:34, and they said, "The Lord hath need 
of Him."  Thrilled, he exclaimed, "The Lord has need of me, the Lord has need 
of me!"  What a wonderful life verse.  I never had a life verse before, but 
now the Lord has given me one.  Thank You, 0h Jesus, Hallelujah.  And the 
studio audience began to applaud.  

At that moment, however, the "Talk Show" host's wife who had also turned to 
Luke 19, said, "Wait a minute, you can't use this.  This verse is talking 
about a donkey!"  That incident, while being absolutely ludicrous and 
bizarre, gives you some idea of the "willy-nilly way" that some Charismatics 
approach Scripture.  Some of them, looking for a word from the Lord, play a 
sort of Bible roulette.  They spin the Bible at random, looking for something 
that might seem applicable to whatever trial or need they are facing and they 
find a verse and say, "Well, the Lord gave me that verse."  And then the Lord 
supposedly gave them the interpretation of it.  These are silly and foolish 
ways to approach the study of the Bible.  

Perhaps you have heard the familiar story of the man who wanted guidance 
about a major decision.  He decided to close his eyes, not knowing where to 
look, wanted God to answer him.  In the dilemma, he open his Bible, put his 
finger down to get guidance from whatever verse his finger happened to land 
on.  His first try brought him to Matthew 27:5, "Judas went out and hanged 
himself."  Thinking that verse was really not much help, he decided to try 
again.  This time his finger landed on Luke 10:37, "Go thou and do likewise."  
Still undeterred and not ready to give up he tried it a third time and his 
finger landed on John 13:27, "What thou doesn't, do quickly."  Now I 
certainly don't want to vouch for the authenticity of that particular 
account, but it does make an important point.  

Looking for meaning in Scripture through some mystical process is the way to 
get an ill gotten theology.  Looking for meaning in Scripture beyond the 
Historical, Grammatical, Logical understanding of the context is unwise and 
dangerous.  It is possible, of course, to substantiate almost any idea or any 
teaching from Scripture if you take it out of its context and twist it 
around.  I remember hearing about the preacher who didn't think women should 
have their hair up on their head, because a woman's hair should be down.  And 
so he preached against what used to be called "Bobbed Hair"--women having 
their hair up on their heads.  His text was "Top Knot Come Down," taken from 
Matthew 24 where it says, "Let those on the housetop not come down."  So if 
you just pullout, if you just pull out exactly what you want you can probably 
get it.  We laugh at that because it sounds so bizarre, but that is precisely 
the process that many are using to substantiate their experiences or to 
invent their theology.   
 
Now, the task of hermenutics is to realize first of all that there is a God 
given meaning in Scripture apart from you or me or anybody else.  Scripture 
means something, [even] if it means nothing to me.  Understood?  It means 
something if it means nothing to you.  It means something if it means nothing 
to anybody.  It means something in itself and that meaning is determined by 
God the author, not by one who is going through some kind of mystical 
experience.  The interpreter's task, then, is to discern that meaning; to 
discover the meaning of the text in its proper setting; to draw the meaning 
out of the Scripture, rather than to read one's meaning into it.  The 
importance of careful Biblical interpretation can hardly be overstated.  We 
spend three or four years at the Master's Seminary trying to teach men how to 
do this, because it is the heart and soul of effective ministry.  In fact, I 
would go so far as to say, misinterpreting the Bible is ultimately no better 
than disbelieving it.  

You say, "What do you mean by that?"  Well, what good does it do to believe 
that the Bible is God's final and complete word if you misinterpret it?  
Either way, you miss the truth.  Right?  It is equally serious, along with 
disbelieving the Bible, to misinterpret it.  Interpreting Scripture to make 
it say what it was never intended it to say is a sure road to division, 
error, to heresy, and to apostasy.  In spite of all of the dangers of 
misinterpreting the Scripture, today we have these casual people who approach 
the Scriptures whimsically, without any understanding of the science of 
interpretation and make it say whatever they would like it to say.  Perhaps 
you have been in one of those Bible studies where you go around the room and 
everybody tells you what they think the verse means.  Or, worse than that, 
"Well to me, this verse means so and so."  In the end what you get is a 
pooling of ignorance, unless somebody knows what it means apart from them.  
The truth is that it doesn't matter what a verse means to me; it doesn't 
matter what it means to you; it doesn't matter what it means to anybody else; 
it doesn't matter if it means anything to anybody else.  All that matters is, 
"What does it mean?  What did God intend to say?" 

Every verse has intrinsic meaning apart from any of us and the task of Bible 
study is to discern the true meaning of Scripture.  That's why I can come to 
you week after week, month after month, year after year, and explain to you 
the meaning of the Word of God apart from any personal experience I'm having.  
That's irrelevant.  The task of the interpreter is to discern the meaning of 
Scripture.  In 2 Timothy 2:15, it says "Be diligent, or study to present 
yourself approved to God as a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed," 
because he's handling accurately the Word of Truth.  If you don't handle it 
accurately, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.  And if you are going to 
handle it accurately you have to be diligent; you have to work hard at it.  
Clearly, handling Scripture involves both of those things--hard work and 
diligence.  It must be interpreted accurately, and those who fail to do that 
have reason to be ashamed.  

Now there is so much to say about this that I can't give you a whole course 
in hermenutics.  I teach some of that in the seminary as well as other 
professors, and I'm not intending to give you a seminary course.  But, let me 
just suggest three errors that need to be avoided, that are not always 
avoided in contemporary interpretation.  And they are very simple.


1.  Do Not Make a Point at the Price of a Proper Interpretation.

It's like the preacher who said, "I have a good sermon if I could just find a 
verse to go with it."  Do not prescribe your theology and then try to make 
the Bible fit it.  You might have a good thought, a good idea.  It even might 
be that the principle that you have in mind is true, but do not allow 
yourself to make the point at the price of a proper interpretation.  

I remember reading years ago a good illustration of this found in the Jewish 
Talmud.  One rabbi was trying to convince his people that the primary issue 
in life is concern for other human beings.  That's good; a good point.  We 
ought to be concerned about other human beings.  But he wanted to illustrate 
it so he took them to the Tower of Babel, and he told them that the stones of 
the Tower of Babel in Genesis 11, the building of that through the carrying 
of those stones illustrated his point.  He said that the builders of the 
Tower were frustrated because they put material things first and people last.  

Now, where is that in Genesis?  "Well," he said, "As the Tower grew taller, 
it took a hod carrier (a stone carrier) many hours to carry a load of stone 
up.  The higher it got the longer the walk."  And he said, "If a man fell off 
the tower on the way down nobody cared because you only lost a man--not the 
bricks.  But if he fell off on the way up, they mourned because the bricks 
were lost.  And that," said the Rabbi, "Is why God confused their language, 
because they failed to give priority to human beings over bricks!"  

Now, none of that can be found in Genesis 11.  None of that can be found in 
the Bible.  In fact, it totally skews the meaning of Genesis 11.  It is true   
people are more important than bricks, but that is not the point of the Tower 
of Babel.  Genesis 11 says absolutely nothing about the importance of people 
or bricks.  The point is, God is more important than idols, and God will 
judge idolatry.

I remember being at a Bible Conference in Wisconsin one time.  And I got into 
this Bible Conference with another well known preacher, and we were preaching 
every night.  And one day we were eating lunch and I said, "What are you 
going to preach on tonight?"  He said, "I am going to preach on the Rapture 
of the Church."  I said, "Really, the Rapture of the Church.  Great!"  What's 
your text?"  He said, "John 11."  I said, "What?"  He said, "John 11."  "I 
said, "John 11?  The Rapture of the Church isn't even in John 11."  He said, 
"You wait and see tonight."  I said, "Fine, fine."  That night he preached on 
the Rapture from John 11.  That's the resurrection of Lazarus.  He 
allegorized it; Lazarus was the Church, Martha was the Old Testament saints, 
and Mary was the tribulation saints.  And he got this thing going.  And the 
people were just sitting their going, "Deep, deep!"  You know they were just 
thinking this is the profoundest thing.  They couldn't find it anywhere.  
They thought he was going deeper than they had capability to go.  And 
afterwards, he said to me, "Had you ever seen that in John 11?"  To which I 
replied, as kindly as I could, "No one has ever seen that in John 11!"  And 
he took it as a compliment!  The next night he got up and said, "John 
MacArthur told me, 'That no one but me had ever seen that in John 11.'"

Now, I don't want to argue with the Rapture of the Church, but I will argue 
that the Rapture of the Church is not in John 11.  And if you are going to 
make John 11 say something that is true, then you are just as likely to make 
John 11 say something that what?  Isn't true.  That is not the way you 
approach Scripture.  God has not hidden His truth from us but His meaning is 
not always instantly clear; it demands hard work.  That's why in 1 Timothy 
5:17 it says, "Those elders that labor in the Word and doctrine are worthy of 
double honor."  Because it's hard work.  That's why God has given teachers to 
the Church; so that we can work hard in understanding God's Word correctly, 
instructing people in the Scriptures through persistent conscientious labor 
in the Word.  

Now, today we have, frankly, a lack of respect for the work of gifted 
theologians, a lack of respect for the hard work of gifted expositors who 
have spent years studying and interpreting Scripture.  In fact, that lack of 
respect tends to be somewhat Charismatically characteristic.  They tend to 
sort of look at all of us that way.  I think I read to you the letter from 
the lady who said, "Your problem is, you're too much into the Bible.  Throw 
away your Bible and stop studying."  You see Charismatics place more emphasis 
on letting people in the congregation say whatever they think Jesus is 
telling them the verse means, than to listen to what one writer calls, "Airy 
Fairy Theologians."  There is a vast difference, by the way, between the 
whimsical "kitchen table" interpretations of laymen, and the teaching of 
skilled men who work very hard to rightly divide the Word.

I heard a radio interview with a Charismatic woman pastor.  She was asked how 
she got her sermons up.  She replied, "I don't get them up--I get them down.  
God delivers them to me."  That's an all too familiar thing.  I can promise 
you that God has never delivered one to me.  I haven't "gotten them down," I 
had to "get them up."  Some people even believe its unspiritual to study.  
After all, some say, taking another verse out of context, "Didn't Jesus say, 
'For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.'"
So you just go into the pulpit and whatever comes into your mind you say?  
And that is why they invent their theology even as they speak.  Because they 
have no idea what's going to be said until they hear it.  We should be 
greatly concerned about this ad-lib approach.  You never, ever make a point, 
true or false, at the price of a proper interpretation.  Otherwise, you are 
the final authority and not the Word of God.  

2.  Don't Spiritualize or Allegorize the Text.

Some people think the Bible is a fable to teach whatever you want to get 
across.  A myriad of illustrations of this, but I remember back when Jerry 
Mitchell was on our staff and a young couple came into him for 
counseling--marriage counseling.  He began to talk with them and after about 
30 minutes, he said, "You'd been married only 6 months and you are already on 
the edge of a divorce?  Why did you ever get married?  You're miles apart." 
"Oh," said the husband, "it was a sermon that the pastor preached in our 
church."  "What was the sermon?"  "Well, he preached on the walls of 
Jericho."  "Jericho?  What does that have to do with marriage?"  "Well, God's 
people claimed the city, marched around it seven times and the walls fell 
down."  And he said, "If a young man believed God had given him a certain 
girl, he could claim her, march around her seven times, and the walls of her 
heart would fall down."  "That's what I did and we got married."  "That can't 
be true," he said.  "Your kidding, aren't you?"  I remember him saying that.  
"You got to be kidding!"  "No, it's true.  And there were many other couples 
who got married because of the same sermon."  Some people believe their 
marriages were made in heaven; that one was made in an allegory, and a bad 
one at that.  

That's the kind of interpretation that has gone on since the early days of 
the Church [and] continues today, especially in the Charismatic movement.  I 
remember listening to a series on the Book of Nehemiah.  The whole purpose of 
the Book of Nehemiah, by this Charismatic preacher was to teach Charismatic 
doctrine.  Jerusalem walls were in ruin and that was representative of the 
broken down walls of human personality.  Nehemiah was the Holy Spirit.  The
King's pool was the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.  And the mortar between the 
bricks was tongues.  And what Nehemiah is teaching, is the Holy Spirit wants 
to come, rebuild your broken walls through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and   
Speaking in Tongues.  

I had an opportunity to talk to that preacher about that and we had an 
interesting conversation.  I tried to show him that, that was nothing but the 
invention of his own imagination--read from the New Testament back into the 
Old but never the intention of Nehemiah.  To which he agreed.  That kind of 
preaching is a form of "Hucksterism."  And as I said, you may come up with a 
truth that you teach, but if you spiritualize the text to do it, then you 
legitimize spiritualization of any text, which leaves you with any fanciful 
conclusion.

For the correct approach, you probably need to go to Jesus and remember when 
He was walking on the road to Emmaus, He said, (Luke did), "That beginning 
with Moses and with all the Prophets he explained to them the things 
concerning Himself in the Scriptures."  The word explain is hermeneuo (Greek) 
from which we get hermenutics.  He carefully interpreted the Old Testament.  
He used hermenutics.  He is the model of a teacher; He used sound 
interpretative methods.  

So when we teach the Word of God; when we come to the conclusions that we 
come to, we want to be certain that we don't make severe errors:

1.  By making points at the price of proper interpretations.

2.  By somehow concocting or spiritualizing something that isn't there.

3.  By superficial study.  Superficial study is equally disastrous.  Well, I 
have said enough about that not to have to say more.

Now, if that's the case, if we are to avoid doing that, how do we then 
interpret the Scripture?  Let me give you five sound principles, all right?  
If you work through these you'll be on the way to rightly dividing the Word.  

1.  The Literal Principle

Principle number one we'll call the literal principle: the literal one.  When 
we go to the Bible, this is so basic, we assume that God is talking to us in 
normal speech.  Okay?  Normal language.  Normal, common, everyday 
communication.  If fact, the theologians use to call it "Usus Loquendi" in 
the Latin, meaning, "The words of Scripture are to be interpreted the same 
way words are understood in ordinary daily use."  If it says "horse," it 
means "horse."   If it says, "He went somewhere, he went somewhere."  If it 
says, "house," it means "house."  If it says, "man," it means "man."  And not 
everything is to be extrapolated off into some mystical spiritualization, 
allegorization, or whatever.  It is literal.  We understand Scripture, then, 
in the literal sense of language.

Now, there are figures of speech, there are simile, metaphor, hyperbole, 
onomatopoeia, whatever else, ellipsis, all of the figures of speech will be 
there.  There may even be sarcasm, there may even be exaggeration as a 
device.  There may be symbolism, such as the symbolism in the prophetic 
literature, which is obviously symbolic--clearly symbolic.  But it is in the 
normal language of speech.  We use symbols in our language.  We say, "That 
man is as straight pine tree."  Or, "That man is as strong as an ox."  Well, 
we're using a symbol to make a literal point or statement.  So then when we 
interpret the Bible, we are not hunting for some extrapolated mystical 
experience.  Now, the Rabbis really got into this.  They started to look for 
this long centuries ago, in fact, they use to say that (some of them said) 
Abraham had 318 servants.  Nothing in the Bible says that, but they said, 
the secret meaning of the word Abraham is, in the Hebrew there is only three 
consonants in Abraham's name--Br, Ra, Hm.  All the rest are vowels or 
breathing points.  So, if you take the "Br, Ra, Hm," in his name, they had 
numerical equivalents in the Hebrew language, and add them up and you get 
318!  So the secret meaning is that he had 318 servants.  

And they were into all that kind of stuff.  And it even got more bizarre than 
that.  There is occasionally, of course, figurative language in Scripture, as 
I said.  But they are quite evident to us in the normal course of 
understanding language.  Scripture was not written to puzzle people.  It was 
not written to confuse them--it was written to make things clear to them.  
Even Parables are nothing more than illustrations.  They are not 
riddles--they're illustrations, and in most cases Jesus explained their 
meanings.  And in all cases He said that the meaning would be revealed to 
those who belong to Him by the Holy Spirit.  So we can't abandon literal 
interpretation in favor of mystical, allegorical, metaphorical kinds of 
interpretation that discard all hope of achieving accuracy and coherence and 
throw us into some imaginary field.  

I would venture to say that most Charismatic preaching is imagination run 
wild, proof-texted.  They have, at least the popular part of it; I don't know 
whether "most" is a fair thing to say.  But the popular part of it that I 
hear has much imagination and very little hermenutics.  When you do not take 
the time to discern the literal meaning you are not serving Scripture by 
trying to understand it; then you are making Scripture your slave by molding 
it into whatever you want it to say.  So we start with the literal principle,
its literal language.

2.  A Historical Principle

Now, when the Scripture was written, they understood what was said clearly.  
Just like the Constitution: when it was written everybody understood what 
they meant.  Here we are a few hundred years later trying to figure out what 
they meant.  Why?  Because history is different.  Time has passed.  Culture 
has changed.  Circumstances have changed, and even language has changed.  
Modes of expression have changed.  And so we are trying to get in touch with 
an old document and reconstruct what it must have meant to them when it was 
written.  The same is true of the Bible, only it is much older than the 
Constitution.  Any ancient document demands interpretation.  And so what do 
we have to do to interpret it?  We have to reset it into its historical 
context.  

I am always amazed when I hear someone say, "John 3, 'You must be born of the 
water and the spirit,' means you must be born physically and you must be born 
spiritually."  Have you heard that?  And when a woman has a baby, there's 
water.  We say, "The water breaks and the baby's born--that's born of the 
water.  And spiritually, you are born of the Spirit."  The problem is that in 
the Jewish context that wouldn't have been said, because the Jews didn't say 
"The water breaks."  So what you've done is take an American colloquialism 
and read it into an ancient book that would mean absolutely nothing to those 
people.  The question is, when He said, "You must be born of the water and 
the spirit"--what water would they think about?  Right?  What water was in 
the historical setting?  The only water they would think about, in their 
Jewish context, particularly Nicodemus, would be that of Ezekiel who said, 
"The day is coming when God is going to wash you with clean water and put His 
spirit within you."  And he would have put it into that context, the context 
of the New Covenant, not some colloquial American expression for human 
birth. 

We must then understand the need for the historical principle.  When Jesus 
walks in, for example, to the Temple courtyard, and said, "I am the light of 
the world."  Why did He said that?  Did He just go around saying strange 
things at strange moments?  Just, "I'm the light of the world!"  And somebody 
would say, "What did He say that for?"  Or, why would He say, "I am the water  
of life, whoever drinks of this water, out of his belly will flow rivers of 
living water!"  What is He talking about?  Why does he outburst with these 
obtuse remarks?  No, when He said, in John 8, "I am the light of the world," 
He was standing in the Temple courtyard and there was a huge candelabra that 
had been lit for eight straight days, in the feast of lights.  And it had 
just gone out the day before and He walks into that very setting and says, in 
effect, 'This thing has gone out but I'm the light of the world and I never 
go out.  And when He said, "I am the water of life," they were going through 
the Hallels, and they were celebrating the water that came out of the rock in 
the wilderness, and He said, "There was water then, but it was temporary.  I 
am the water, and you drink this water--you'll never thirst but you will be a 
gushing well of water!"  

Always the context gives the meaning.  We've got to go back.  What are the 
historical features?  What is the characteristics of the city in which the 
believers lived who heard this?  What was going on there?  What were the 
politics?  Who was ruling?  What was the social pressures?  What were the 
tensions, problems, and crisis that they were going through?  What was the 
culture of the day?  What was life like?  What were customs like?  I spend a 
great amount of my time researching all of that information so that when I 
get into the pulpit, I can make something clear.  And I am always amazed, in 
fact, it happened a couple of times this morning, people came to me and said, 
"You know that passage is so clear--its so clear, I wonder why I have never 
seen it before?"  The reason it was clear, the reason you understood it, is 
because I fed you the context in which it had its significance.  It seemed 
simple and clear to you, a lot simpler than you know.  It is simple to the 
one who was there and heard it the first time, but it is more complex to me, 
as I have to discern what they heard and how they heard it.  That's part of 
the process.  

To answer the cultural, historical questions, you use Bible dictionaries and 
books on history, and Bible handbooks, and commentaries, and books about 
Bible customs and so forth and so on. 

3.  Grammatical Principle

You go to a text of Scripture and you have to approach it grammatically.  
This is called syntax.  Lexigraphy is the study of words, syntax is the study 
of the relationship of words.  You have to learn about verbs and adverbs and 
adjectives and you have to learn about infinitives and participles and you 
have to learn about prepositions.  You have to learn about conjugating verbs 
and you have to learn about cases for nouns and substantives.  Ablative and 
genitive and all of that, accusative, nominative.  You learn all of the 
structure of language.  You have to learn about antecedents, about 
relationships.  You have to learn about conditional and non-conditional 
clauses.  You know what makes this really difficult now in seminary?  The 
latest statistics that I've seen regarding our seminary, and we get the cream 
of the crop, we get the finest young men coming out of the universities of 
our nation, one out of four of the men coming into the Master's Seminary, one 
out of four can pass the basic English exam!  One out of four!  They can all 
talk English.  They can all read English.  They just don't understand the 
structure of language.  And because they don't understand the structure of 
language, you can't teach them a foreign language until they do.  

We have people today, who will never be able to understand the structure of 
the foreign languages Hebrew and Greek because they don't even understand the 
structure of English, trying to interpret the Bible!  Now grammar is not 
anybody's favorite subject.  Sorry, those of you who teach English.  Grammar 
is just grammar!  It just there and you have to learn it.  But it is 
essential in interpreting the Word of God.  People say to me, "What is the 
first thing you do when you prepare a message?"  The first thing I do is 
study the Biblical text in the original language and learn the grammar and 
understand all of the word relationships: go over sentence structure and 
grammar so I know exactly what is being said and what modifies what, and how 
it all fits together.  

In fact, more often than not, when I preach to you, the main idea that I am 
trying to get across to you is contained in the main verb.  And the 
supporting ideas are contained in the participle that modifies the main verb.  
Now, you can do this for yourselves by reading commentaries that will help 
you in the process; by doing inductive Bible study.  Breaking down into 
diagraming sentences, remember that terrible thing you use to have to do, 
that nobody does anymore?  But, that's all a part of discerning grammatical 
construction.  

4.  The Synthesis Principle

The Old Reformers used the expression "Scriptura Intra Pratatum" (sp.).  What 
that means is that Scripture is its own interpreter.  And you use the 
Synthesis Principle.  What does that mean?  That I always interpret a given 
passage in the Bible in the light of the rest of the Bible.  Right?  I don't 
come across a passage and say, "Wow! This is a new doctrine taught nowhere 
else in the Bible."  Wait a minute, if you think that passage is teaching a 
doctrine taught nowhere else in the Bible and appears contradictory to other 
things taught in the Bible--you've misinterpreted it.  Right?  Because 
Scripture will be consistent with itself.  Why?  One perfect author wrote it 
all.  Who's that?  God.  

Scripture will interpret Scripture.  The Holy Spirit won't disagree with 
Himself, and you can interpret the Word of God by the Word of God.  That is a 
very, very, essential thing.  And then one more principle.

5.  The Practical Principle

The final question you ask, you go through this whole process, starting out, 
"All right what's the literal meaning here?"  Then you move to, "What's the 
historical background?  The context?  What are all the grammatical components 
here?  How does this synthesize with the rest of Scripture?  You hear me do 
that, don't you?  I make a point and then I show you other verses where that 
point exists, in order to see that this is the Scripture teaching and 
elucidating on its own truth.  And then the last question you ask is, "So 
what?  What does it mean to me?  What does it have to do with me?  How does 
it apply to my life?  But you never ask that question until you've gone 
through all the other steps.  That's right.  Most people today read the Bible 
and say all right, "What does this mean to me?"  And they skip all the stuff 
in the middle.  

By the way, I would recommend to you a helpful little book, if you want a 
good tool that's excellent for you.  It's Dick Mayhue's book, "How to 
Interpret the Bible."  It's a paperback.  It will be a tremendous tool for 
you.  I know that we have it in our book store.  You can go in and buy them 
all out tonight.  

Now, in the process of this, [there is] one more thing that I need to say.  
In these five principles of interpreting Scripture, there's another 
component, and that's the principle of the Holy Spirit and illumination.  
Even when I have taken it literally, and worked through the grammar, and 
reconstructed the history, and when I have delved into all the terms and the 
words and synthesize it with all of Scripture, all of that effort would come 
up empty if it weren't for the illuminating ministry of the Holy Spirit.  
Because He alone knows the things that are coming from God, 1 Corinthians 2 
says.  And He is the one who teaches them to us.  He is the anointing in 1 
John 2:27, that teaches us all things.  

You remember that verse, 1 John 2:27, John says, "The anointing which you 
have received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to 
teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and 
not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him."  It's not 
telling us we don't need teachers; it's not telling us we don't need those 
who guide us, because He's given to the Church Apostles, Prophets, 
Evangelists, Teaching Pastors, and even teachers to teach us.  And He has 
given some the gift of teaching and preaching, so that we can be taught.  But 
it is an assurance that we can know the difference between the heresy that is 
being discussed in 1 John 2 and the truth regarding the Gospel of Christ, 
because we possess the Spirit.  

It doesn't guarantee that we are going to have the correct interpretation of 
every verse in the Bible, even though we do nothing.  It doesn't mean we 
don't need human teachers.  It just means regarding the Gospel, regarding the 
basic truth of Christ, we can discern by the Holy Spirit leading--truth from 
error.  

Now, in closing, just a suggestion, four texts are commonly misinterpreted by 
Charismatics.  And I'll just apply what we have learned tonight to those four 
very briefly, to help you understand how easily they could be rightly 
understood.  

The first one, I want you to turn to it, and we are not going to do all that 
we could do because you can buy my commentary or get the tape on the passage 
and go through it in detail.  But, Matthew, chapter 12, is a good starting 
point because they use this quite often to intimidate Christians.  In 
Matthew, chapter 12, you have the record of the blasphemy against the Holy 
Spirit.  And you remember that Jesus said, "Anything could be forgiven you, 
anything said against the Son of Man, but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit 
will not be forgiven you."  If we had the time we could read from verse 22 
all the way on, but just go down to verse 31, Jesus says, "Therefore I say to 
you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the 
Spirit shall not be forgiven."

Now, what is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?  Well, if you listen to two 
very popular Charismatics, by the name of Charles and Francis Hunter, well 
known husband and wife team, who have written numbers of books and speak on 
the road all the time, this is what they say.  They say, that anyone who 
questions tongues, and this is pretty much what you hear from the Charismatic 
movement, anyone who questions tongues or any other aspect of the Charismatic 
movement is blaspheming the Holy Spirit.  They imply that any critic of the 
charismatic movement are perilously close to being condemned by Christ for 
such blasphemy.  Is that what this is teaching?  They use this verse to 
support that.  Does a challenge to Charismatic error equal blasphemy against 
the Holy Spirit?  

When someone denies that tongues are for today or that the Baptism of the 
Spirit is a post-salvation experience, has that person committed the 
unpardonable sin?  Not according to this passage.  In this text you remember 
that a demon possessed man was born blind and dumb; [he was] brought to Jesus 
and He healed him.  The Pharisees heard it; they said, "Jesus casts out 
demons by Satan."  Remember that?  "By Beelzebul," which was their name for 
the "Lord of the Flies," the Philistine Satan, the Prince of Evil Spirits.  
They were saying Jesus does what He does by the power of Satan.  

Now, according to the principles of interpretation which we've just learned, 
the first thing to do would be to look at the literal meaning of the passage.  
The Pharisees were literally saying, "Jesus Christ got His power from Satan."  
All right, we understand that.  Let's move to the historical principle.  
Jesus' ministry had been going on for two years, and during that time He had 
been performing numerous miracles that proved to everyone, really it should 
have proved to everyone, that He was God.  He was the Messiah.  The 
conclusion should have been, "He is God!"  Their conclusion was, "He 
functions under the power of Satan!"  They concluded the exact opposite.  

Using the synthesis principle, we go a step further.  We check other parts of 
the Bible and we find that at His baptism Jesus received the Holy Spirit.  And 
after being baptized, the Spirit of God descended as a dove [and] came upon 
Him.  And then we learned that when Jesus went out and performed His 
miracles, it was the Spirit working through Him.  He had yielded Himself up 
to the Holy Spirit.  And so it was the Holy Spirit working in Him, casting 
out demons by the Spirit's power.  They were coming along and saying He did 
it by Satan's power.  

Blasphemy, then against the Holy Spirit, was attributing the works of Christ, 
done by the Spirit of God, to Satan.  That's what blasphemed the Holy Spirit.  
It was being exposed to the full revelation of Christ's deity, seeing His 
miracles, hearing His teachings, and concluding He's satanic.  For that, you 
can't be forgiven!  Why?  Because if you have seen it all and heard it all 
and you conclude that He's satanic--you can't get saved!  Right?  Because 
you've concluded exactly the opposite about Christ!  That's the blasphemy 
against the Holy Spirit in Matthew 12.  It doesn't say anything about 
tongues.  It doesn't say anything about the contemporary Charismatic 
movement.  

We know that all of us as sinners resist the Holy Spirit.  All of us who are 
convicted by the Holy Spirit and fight back at that conviction are resisting 
and in one way or another blaspheming Him, but still we can be saved.  The 
only way you can blaspheme to the degree where you couldn't be saved is if 
you had had all the revelation and you concluded the opposite of the truth!  
You're unsavable!  Because, in order to be saved, you have to acknowledge 
Jesus as God.  Right?  

First of all, the sin against the Holy Spirit referred to there is a 
historical event.  And secondly, if there was some application to us, it 
would simply be rejecting Christ when you have full knowledge. 

Look at another one, Hebrews 13:8, this is a very brief one, but again its a 
classic illustration of the way they work.  Almost every Pentecostal Church 
you'll go into (certainly in the past this was true) will have a verse in the 
front of the Church, in the back of the Church, on a plaque somewhere--it'll 
be Hebrews 13:8, "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday and today, and forever,"  
Have you ever been into a Pentecostal Church and seen that?  It is in most 
all of them, or was.  "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday and today, and 
forever."  

Now, why is that important?  This is what they say, "If Jesus baptized with 
the evidence of speaking in tongues yesterday, then surely He is doing it 
today and He'll be doing it tomorrow.  And so they used that to say, 
"Whatever Jesus did in the past, He's doing now, [and] He'll be doing in the 
future.  The silliness of that interpretation is that tongues never started 
until Acts 2!  So, though Jesus is the same yesterday, throughout all the 
yesterday of His eternal existence, He didn't do that!  You see how obvious 
that is?  Then you say, "Now, wait a minute.  In the yesterday He did 
miracles."  No, no, no, not in the yesterday of His eternal existence.  
Before the world began He wasn't doing miracles.  And before the world began 
He wasn't sending the Spirit in cloven tongues of fire.  

You see what you have here is a statement about the eternal, immutable, 
essence of Christ.  That He is eternal, yesterday, today, and forever, and 
unchanging in His essence.  Not that He has always, is, and will always do 
everything the same way.  

Well, we don't have time to look at the other Scriptures.  One favorite they 
like is Mark 16, which says, "That these signs will follow those that 
believe . . . they will cast out demons, speak with new tongues."  They love 
to emphasize that.  They are not so hot on picking up snakes and drinking 
deadly poison.  And then it says, "It will not hurt them if they drink it and 
they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."  They say, "See, we 
can heal the sick!  And see, we can speak in tongues!  And see, we can cast 
out demons!"  But they don't advocate picking up snakes and drinking deadly 
poison!  In fact how they handle that--I need to just tell you how they 
handle that.  

The Hunter's, for example, say, 

      Well, that only counts if you pick up the snake accidentally.  
      Is that what it says in Mark's Gospel, "If you happen to pick up 
      a snake accidentally?"  Or, it only matters if you drink the 
      poison accidentally.  In fact, they write, do you notice the 
      Bible says, "If we drink anything poisonous," it means 
      accidentally.  It won't hurt us.  Hallelujah, best insurance 
      policy we know of.

Now, the problem with their interpretation is its not literal.  There is no 
accidentally there.  Furthermore, historically, He's talking about the 
Apostolic age and those who responded to the ministry of the Apostles.  They 
even go so far as to make the silly remark, "And of course, we all know that 
the biggest snake is Satan, and when he bites us, God delivers us from his 
deadly poison," which just allegorizes the thing--spiritualizes it.  They 
play fast and loose.

The concern that I have is to share with you just the sense that there is an 
awful lot of irresponsibility in dealing with these texts.  And for you sake 
and mine, we need not, listen carefully to me, we need not just to criticize 
the movement.  We need to be able to go beneath and to show where the 
critical flaws lie.  

One text in closing, and you know it very well, 2 Timothy 2:15.  Just to 
remind you, so you're armed if you get into any conversation with folks like 
this.  "Be diligent to present yourself approved of God as a workman who does 
not need to be ashamed."  And then the last phrase, "Handling accurately the 
word of truth."  Beloved, this is where we must lay down the law.  We must 
protect the integrity of Scripture by demanding a proper interpretation.  
That phrase, "handling accurately," means "cutting it straight."  Paul was a 
tent maker and in order to make a tent he had to cut a lot of pieces of 
material, either hide or woven hair.  If he didn't cut the parts right, like 
making a dress or a shirt, that the whole didn't fit together.  Right?  You 
cut the parts right; you sew them together, it works.  And he is saying, if 
you don't cut the pieces right the whole theology doesn't fit together and 
what you've got is people hacking up the pieces and putting together an 
obtuse bizarre theology that does not make sense, is not coherent.

We must know how to rightly divide the word of truth.  Because if we don't, 
mishandling the Scriptures and not interpreting it properly just feeds 
endless confusion.  And that is why there is so much Charismatic chaos.

Father, thank you for our time tonight and looking over these things and 
considering some of the basics of Bible interpretation.  Make us faithful.  
And Lord help us again to realize that many people in this movement love you 
and are victimized.  They are victimized by these foolish interpretations 
that are given to them very authoritatively, by people who sound convincing.  
We pray that your Spirit would give them great discernment.  We know that 
your Spirit will grant them to discern if they are true believers, between 
heresy about the gospel and the truth of the gospel.  And we can only ask 
that somehow your Spirit would lead them to true teachers who will teach them 
the right interpretation of Scripture so they would not be confused and thus 
miss the privilege and opportunity of spiritual growth and giving you glory 
that you deserve.  Lord thank you for giving us exposure to those who rightly 
divided the Word so that we could follow in their stead.  Make us faithful to 
that Word which rightly understood, must be applied.  And all for your glory 
in Christ's Name.  Amen.   
            
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