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Just wanted to point out that a "fork" of 'Ariane' (Source code found on web-archive) called 'Buran' (by : Corewala) has been spotted in the wild.
https://github.com/Corewala/Buran
Any thoughts on the legal fork-ability of 'Ariane' from web-archive? Is it allowed?
3 months ago · 👍 benk, lykso
[1] https://github.com/Corewala/Buran
@smokey A paid Gemini browser? Good luck to them with that, you can’t even get away with that on the WWW! · 3 months ago
@cobradile94 "big meltdown" as in Oppen hastily taking down ariane, stripping out all the 3rd party contributions to the source, and making plans to turn whats left into a entirely new paid app. That was last I saw from their website. All of this within the course of a day or two? If you were to put a gun to my head and ask "why" I would say it was either caused by an emotional fit due to the stress of development or oppen wanting to sell a product to make money and for whatever reason thought tearing down ariane as a whole was the best solution so their new app wouldnt have as much competition. · 3 months ago
Me too, was wondering what happened to Ariane. Also agree Lagrange on mobile is comparable or better than Ariane. · 3 months ago
Open Source generally, and the GPL included, doesn't say anything about the price; it's all about the distribution. The app can be sold for money, as long as the license conditions are met. The code on that repo is EUPL v1.2, that is a copyleft license (like the GPL, for example), and includes selling as part of "distribution". So yes, thanks a lot to ÖLAB for making this open source! · 3 months ago
@smokey Big Meltdown? What did I miss? · 3 months ago
Buran seems to be based on Ariane 2, which was licensed under the European Union Public License, which seems to be a permissive license similar to the MIT License:
https://github.com/Corewala/Buran/blob/b80bc9948ab77c0efe667aa0e27e18f0e87ebe20/LICENSE
Ariane 4 was relicensed under the ÖLAB License, which (IIRC; the page isn't loading right now) was basically just the Peer Production Licence with the ÖLAB name inserted.
gemini://oppen.digital/license/index.gmi
https://civicwise.org/peer-production-licence-_-human-readable-summary/ · 3 months ago
It depends what licence ariane was published with. I believe most open source projects (which ariane most cetainly was until the big meltdown) are published with GPL or something which allows for the source to be forked, modified, and redistributed. You know, the OPEN part of open source. As long its forked from an open version of ariane and its not being sold for profit, it shouldnt be a big issue. The better question is *why* anyone would still want to use ariane or a fork of it. For a time it was the best option on mobile for sure, but not anymore. Lagrange and Deedum have filled the void Ariane left. I would rather support projects with stable people behind them. · 3 months ago