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title: SzczeĹĽuja's tinylog. A world parallel to @szczezuja@mastodon.online.
author: @szczezuja
avatar: 🦪 (:oyster:, U+1F9AA)
license: CC BY-SA
For sure is always a place, you haven't been on Gopher. If you are in hurry, and you must...
generate a new character...
or get a random character name...
or throw a 4d6 dice...
or read some detail about Undead Bat. Here you are:
gopher://gopher.smolderingwizard.com/1/rpg/player_and_gm_resources
For sure is always a place on Gopher, which just been born. Look at the shinny new BBC news text proxy:
gopher://sdf.org/0/users/cside/2022-04-24-further-work-on-bbc-news-gopher
For sure is always a place, you haven't been on Gopher. Game for today:
["ZORK I: The Great Underground Empire" 1980]
Interesting article about Web 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, and... 4.0!
gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/0/~zlg/0037_web-versions.txt
There are also interesting readings on Gemini. Found by @deerbard:
gemini://rawtext.club/~oxymoronist/main.gmi
For sure is always a place, you haven't been on Gopher. Hole for today:
For sure is always a place, you haven't been on Gopher. Hole for today:
I've created the next two cheat sheets:
The key concept of above files is to describe how I'm using different tools, for my own memory of keyboard shortcuts.
I try to prepare the base actions which I'm using in vim, to compare them in emacs. Some of the conclusions:
Today I'm doing more house cleaning, and I've automated my publish script for tinylog.gmi to include last entry for finger:
awk -v RS='' 'NR==2{print $0}' tinylog.gmi > finger
So awk split input into columns/fields, rows/records. I was aware this, but I never did it.
It was easy.
Today I tuned up my slrn config, and I was browsing the Usenet again. Slrn is great tool, but user must has knowledge of the key concepts. One of them is score file. I had been wondering why the default view isn't date ordered. After that I discovered, that you could change order by `ESC s`. I discovered also that you could change display format by `ESC d`. And after that I discovered that it is more handy to highlight authors or keywords in score file by `K`. It is need to put some tutorial about riding that horse. ;-)
For sure is always a place, you haven't been on Gopher. Hole for today:
And Slashdot proxy:
gopher://codevoid.de/1/slashdot
Who dares implement Core War over Gemini? It would join Astrobotany in the game's department on Geminispace. ;-)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_War
It's 40th generation of my plant on Astrobotany. I've looked at leader boards and their more than 100th generation plants. Probably the main aim of playing that game is gathering strength and convincing yourself to write automation script for your plant. I had been thinking about such thing like act of cheating, but now I'm thinking that it could be the only solution. So it's game for start being a developer.
gemini://astrobotany.mozz.us/public/5d129edfe438478d8ec5a0e57c69a505/m1
Matto has interesting article about RCS (ancient version control system, from '80s) and keyword expansion in it. I hadn't been aware of such thing. And it's possible also in Git (with some work around).
Skyjake has written about TUI Lagrange. So we will have: iOS, Android, Windows, MacOS, Linux (GUI) and Linux (TUI) versions.
gemini://station.martinrue.com/skyjake/a954b6eeadb748509bb6bae77eb9399c
Today is a day of housecleaning. I splited tinylog file into two, current and archive for 2021. I restarted my VPS (uptime about half year).
I'm bilingual now - vi and emacs. ;-) Splitting file by vi seems to be easier, it's VISUAL mode is handy.
Interested in what people do instead of using Usenet, I looked at Internet Archive Schoolar. I haven't found nothing more relevant than paper from 2013.
[iSpy: seeing what students really do online, Reynol Junco]
The answer for then is: social networking.
I sent first posts to Usenet from almost 30 years. While looking for available nntp (text only) servers I found out something new:
Now the roles have turned somewhat differently. You can unlock your `slrn`, and point it at: `news.eternal-september.org` or `news.aioe.org` now.
ad [Eternal September]:
You can always be surprised. It works.
$ sudo apt install sdate
$ sdate
Sun 10442 Sep 1993 09:46:08 AM CEST
;-)
Second try for Usenet. It was easy.
$ NNTPSERVER=nntp.aioe.org
$ export NNTPSERVER
$ slrn -f ~/.jnewsrc --create
My previous problem must be connected with SDF.org server or configuration.
@bacardi55 I tried tin, trn, slrn for Usenet without success (i can't browse older posts). But maybe I don't have enough time for configuration. If mutt is better solution, you could write some tutorial. There are no many about it on the web.
Bacardi55 pointed out to me the Usenet. I was touched by the second illiteracy. I used Usenet in the '90s. And now I haven't even know how to go about it. Ancient knowledge, what are the NNTP server addresses now?!
And it already seemed that I do not have a free server at hand.
Hey KONPEITO fans, do you know Drift Theory (music works of former Sloum's music collective).
As @bacardi55 mentioned, there several broken links here and there in Geminispace. I was also thinking about partitioning my Tinylog. But it isn't Gopher with their catalog of files. Gemini is similar to WWW, with content mixed with site structure. So in Gopher, we would link to content, rather than to site structure like in WWW and Gemini. So in Gopher I could rearrange site structure in a safe way for backlinks. In Gemini activities like organizing the archive yearly will break every backlink. So we should be so wise in the beginning to do proper structure for the whole site.
Writing here in English is also some language practice. I don't use English in everyday cases, so it got rusty. I haven't thought about looking for something like this, but I saw Rfmpie's article about his publishing process. There is a special webpage for grammar check. I will try it.
gopher://rawtext.club:70/0/~rfmpie/phlog/2022-03-20-gopher-rig.org
Today I saw a back link to my Gemini capsule from Gophersphere. It somehow natural, but we don't have a proper instrumentation to detect that. ;-)
As @bacardi55 said, there is comp.infosystems.gemini group is announced.
Google haven't indexed it yet, so big-net isn't aware it. ;-)
I was using sshfs for flounder.online, but there isn't possible to use public key authentication for flounder.online. So I migrated to sftp. Below my publish script for flouner.online.
#!/bin/bash
if [ -z "$1" ]
then
echo "Usage:"
echo " publish.sh filename"
exit 1
fi
# Set password; @see https://www.passwordstore.org
export LFTP_PASSWORD=`pass flounder.online`
DIR="$(dirname "$1")"
FILE="$(basename "$1")"
lftp --env-password sftp://set_your_login@flounder.online -p 2024 -e "cd $DIR; lcd $DIR; put $FILE; bye"
# Clear password
export LFTP_PASSWORD=""
I haven't thought in that way earlier. The all emacs's power user trend is about a best way to manage windows in text mode. It's like [heaven of tmux] but on the next level. Mechanisms of managing inside, and between windows are more adavnced.
@bacardi55:
I've read ew0k post also.
[Celebrating Offpunk and Hugging Solderpunk!]
Offpunk looks very interesting. However I don't need a offline browser at the moment. It's nice that it's combining all aspects in one, and it's merging Gophersphere and Geminispace.
Recently I've read also good words about Elpher. But it isn't offline browser like Offpunk.
@bacardi55:
Because it's close to my exploration of Gopher in 90's I can say something:
We waited a long time. Luckily, the update [script] worked.
$ ./update_gtl
Last available = /bacardi55/gtl/releases/download/v0.7.0/gtl_0.7.0_linux_amd64
Last installed = 0.6.0
Installing a new version from https://github.com//bacardi55/gtl/releases/download/v0.7.0/gtl_0.7.0_linux_amd64
[...]
gtl_0.7.0_linux_amd64 100%[==========================>] 5.11M 10.8MB/s in 0.5s
I've been on holidays for a while. It's caused several posts on Gemini and Gopher.
@bacardi55: "nb" looks very interesting. Someday, I would like to get into org mode. It seems to be an even more general solution (although it would require a transition from vi to emacs).
Better late than never. Finally, I created Git repositories for my Gemini and Gopher files.
I wish I could use Gopher on Commodore 64 in 90’s. I had c64, but I hadn’t net then.
https://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/onrequest/geos/geoGopher/index.html
I watched some retro channel about Commodore 64 where it was said that the engineers planned to implement availability of custom OS in Commodore 64. This was a big difference compare to ZX Spectrum. There was only one OS there. Commodore 64 had GEOS. I didn't understand what the GEOS was. I had floppy drive connected to my C64, but I hadn't hard drive. I didn't had idea what the alternative OS for. I had some vague understanding that GEOS is similar to Windows 3.11 but for me then it was useless.
So GEOS had possibility to connect to the Internet, to have network utilities, to implement Gopher client. What was the 90's could look like for me if I had the network? It's funny that it's so abstract for me that I can't imagine that. In the beginning of 90's I hadn't clear idea what the computer is for. So how to imagine connecting it to the Internet?! Poland was backward, and in the beginning of the transformation from the former Soviet's block, with technology embargo.
But the idea of Gopher client for Commodore 64 is inspiring me. There are several YT videos with 8-bit computer connected to the Internet. That barrel CRT monitors, with characteristic colors and fonts. Slowness unheard of today, where every character is as if it was stuffed out in torment from the net cable. Limited screen width that cannot fit most of today's information on one line.
It must be beautiful, and like in the dreams.
http://i.bnet.com/blogs/commodore-64-1982-ad-crop.png
It must been like on this advertisment. The beige colors of the 80's, with happy family sitting near their home personal computer.
For me the natural way of learning about the computer was watching of the similar photos. They could be low-res and small, but they were so attractive. It didn't matter if what I saw on them was in fact there.
The magic of the computers in the 90's.
Today I've set up tmux inside tmux. So I need two command prefixes Ctrl-A and Ctrl-B. I'm waiting for the third tmux. ;-)
This is some excuse to write here, I realized that I abandoned Mastodon besides #gemini and #gopher tags, where I'm posting a time to time. So I have shortage of social interactions. So I'm a bit like lone ranger. ;-)
Cont. of my note at Thu 06 Jan 2022 10:31:56 AM CET. So, Russia invade Ukraine with their troops, and on one of the phlogs I can read that "more fault" is with everything else than Russia. I'm shocked again.
gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/2022-02-23-ukr-tmp.txt
Who dare reads all zines from 90's? ;-)
https://rap.mirror.cyberbits.eu/textfiles.com/magazines/
For my personal purpose, there are some new Polish capsules on Gemini:
In coming days I will celebrate my first year in Geminispace. That part of net seems to be bigger than year ago. As @bacardi55 has written, I'm also using more Antenna/Cosmos than my Commitium. But I don't know if it's good thing? It was about controlling what to read by myself, not by the third parties. We should remember also what is the importance of blogrolls.
The second thought is that my Commitium is not so loud, at it had been in last months. It seems that many old feeds are quiet for long time. The Geminispace is changing before our eyes.
I've got some new replies for my question about 90's net. The most of them are on the local SDF.org board, but one is on Gophersphere.
gopher://sdf.org/1/users/xiled/phlog/2022/20220124_intarnets
gopher://sdf.org/1/users/xiled/phlog/2022/20220125_intarnets_2of2
It's interesting because I had also Commodore 64, and Pentium 75MHz computers. But computers in Poland were shifted by about one decade. So I wasn't able to surf net on my C64 in 90's, as do so Xiled in 80's (sic!). Possibility of surfing the net on C64, for me is mind blowing. Probably everything what had been possible in net on C64, I did not earlier than on my Pentium 75MHz!
When I am thinking about this I also recall first MMORPG (Massively multiplayer online role-playing game) which was also introduced on C64. People who even didn't see 8 bit computers, never will believe in this.
https://frandallfarmer.github.io/neohabitat-doc/docs/
https://paleotronic.com/2018/07/01/a-1980s-quantum-link-to-a-modern-day-mutiny/
https://archive.org/details/ClubCaribe1994Documentary
@bacardi55: I was thinking that is curated list of tinylogs, and you are the maintainer. ;-) So maybe it is why, there are no new feeds. People don't know how to join?
@bacardi55: I've add to my GTL one feed of my colleague, and I realized that there are no any Station's tinylogs in your aggregated feeds timeline. Is it on purpose? I remember that Station had add tinylog support on the early stage of RFC creation, and It seems to be quiet about it from that time?
gemini://station.martinrue.com/discrust/tinylog
@lykso@lyk.so: We shall defend our Tinylogs, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight by the GTL, we shall fight by make our Tinylogs active, we shall carry the torch of education in the whole Geminispace; we shall never surrender.
;-)
As I had written, I'm playing with ASCII maps, graphs and so on. Today I found nice example:
UUCP/USENET Logical Map - June 1, 1981 / mods by S. McGeady 11/19/81
It's funny that it seems that [twtxt] made more noise than [tinylog]. Twtxt was added to [Antenna] some time ago, and at this time there were about 10 active users aggregated by @bacardi55, and only several testing posts on twtxt provided by Antenna. Of course twtxt is reaching more far than Geminispace, but in Geminispace tinylog is more homely. For me the key benefit is that tinylog is readable for any Gemini client, ant it isn't only formatted text-file, at the same time it is offering the same functionalities, with the same simplicity.
I'm looking at skyjake's Capsule and I must say it. Is he has the most impact on the Geminispace? Lagrange for every OS, include iOS and Android. Some time ago GmGitView, and now Cosmos.
Lagrange is also the best Gophersphere browser for mobile, and its include Finger protocol. I suspect that many people can't access small-net without him.
[RuarĂ] has written about `sftp`, and this reminded me about my last adventure with `scp` on `sdf.org`. In short term - `scp` doesn't work for me there. I was in trouble, but I've read about `tar`. I'm not so novice in Linux, but I what to do with it about transferring files to remote machine?!
tar cf - sourcedir/ | ssh login@remotehost " tar xf - -C /remotedir/ "
VoilĂ . It works for me.
I've asked question on my Mastodon's accounts:
Hey #Gopher users, how you were using the Internet in the 1991-1995? I had been asking this question before, but this time I am with it specially on #Gophersphere!
gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/szczezuja/novice/2021-11-13-How-you-were-using-the-Internet.txt
https://mastodon.online/@szczezuja/107605562986447761
I got several responses. I think that only three of them was about Gopher. But nobody could reclaim from memories what was read on Gopher then. I have some hypothesis that Gopher was less popular in Europe, than it is thought now. And it had less non-academic/official stuff, so there aren't any clear memories about that. But maybe I am wrong. It is said that there was official MTV Gopher hole then.
A new thing in Geminispace - Cosmos.
gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-01_cosmos-reply-feeds.gmi
And my Cosmos Reply Feeds:
gemini://skyjake.fi:1969/url?gemini%3A%2F%2Fszczezuja.space%2F
gemini://skyjake.fi:1969/url?gemini%3A%2F%2Fszczezuja.flounder.online%2F
I've been using:
gemini://geminispace.info/backlinks?szczezuja.flounder.online
gemini://geminispace.info/backlinks?szczezuja.space
Which I've been tracing by my script:
Any Gemini user don't think about a way of publishing new gmi files. Gopher user must think about it. So I had must also learn to compose gophermap, a special file which handle content on Gopher hole. It isn't any rocket science. But, Gemini users should be happy that they don't need to do so. It's a very delicate structure, which could be destroyed by accidental letter pressed during writing. So it's good idea to check everything after editing. So I have been checking, and I figured out that there was some mistaken character. The second thing is to remember about files permissions. So we could have directories, files and gophermaps - but there could be wrong chmod, so Gopher hole isn't accessible. I had also problem with them. After that there is some syntax for gophermap, there are also some constants for static structure, for directories, for files and so on. There are much energy put into the thing, which isn't core thing. In such way Gemini is more convenient. Despite that separating content form site structure could be interesting idea.
With help of RuarĂ's script I moved my Gemlog's articles to Gophersphere. I was thinking about it before, but I hadn't had such useful tool on the hand. The main idea is to move serie called "Gopher novice" and question about the Internet 1991-1995. I'm interested in Gopher answers so the question should be ask there.
My gopher hole is set up with success!
I've spent today for making gopher hole at sdf.org. It's hard thing, despite I registered a new account very quickly. I can't change shell before I will validate account. I initialize gopher hole, but I can't put files to it.
I would put there my Gopher articles. I'm expecting that I would get more answers for my questions of everyday use of Gopher in 90's there.
gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/szczezuja/
It could be useful.
gemini://ruario.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-01-04_Formatting_Gemtext_for_Gopher.gmi
There is a new search engine for Gemini. TLGS is more kind for my articles. ;-)
gemini://geminispace.info/search?gopher
gemini://tlgs.one/search?gopher
As @deerbard recalled. I wish I will take more photos in 2022. And I will settle down with some gallery in Geminispace. Or maybe it should be Pixelfed? I didn't make any decision yet.
Interesting link from @guigui3000@pollux.casa - 2700 new nodes and 14 projects in Fediverse in 2021!
https://fediverse.party/en/post/fediverse-in-2021
During everyday browsing of small-net, I was a bit shocked about one entry. It was first time in small-net, to read something what I totally disagree. I live in Poland, where there were changed a lot since 90's. Before that we were stuck in soviet part of the world, and after we managed to join that normal/democratic part. For me to write about NATO, as something what destabilizing east border of Europe and Ukraine is insane. Especially that days, when it's possible that Russia invade Ukraine again. Writing in that way for Poles is something more, that again somebody want to put Poland in some grey area, between normal part of the world, and that post-soviet one. What is more, people outside probably often think, that countries like Poland should be put farer more in geopolitical zone of Russia influence, because it`s just the way it is. I think that that way of thinking is thorny point for every country in that part of the world.
gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/2022-01-04-gone.txt
Last days there are much buzz about web0 manifesto. It's nice, because it's a bit about acting like small-net, in that big one. But I didn't get the details, there are no any detailed description there?
Remember to check the news about The Low Bandwidth Guild.
It's good to remember this links. I often forget about it.