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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      04/23/90 22:08  Msg:5172 Call:28707 Lines:3
 20 Look down if you would know how high you stand. 
 21 Old Yiddish proverb --
 22 ****************************************************
003=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  04/23/90 22:20  Msg:5173 Call:28708 Lines:1
 23 &*&*&*&*'s
004=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  04/23/90 22:22  Msg:5174 Call:28709 Lines:5
 24 Ha! top of the disk.
 25  
 26 An Astral Dreamer
 27 &*&*&*&*'s
 28  
005=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      04/24/90 10:03  Msg:5176 Call:28714 Lines:1
 29 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
006=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      04/24/90 10:10  Msg:5177 Call:28716 Lines:165
 30                    Green Marketing  April 1990
 31    Green marketing is sweeping the country. Marketers discovered there is  
 32 money to be made by wrapping products in environmental claims. The not-so-
 33 subtle message is: "Buy our products and help save the world." 
 34  
 35             WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF GREEN MARKETING PITCHES?
 36    Laundry detergent boxes proudly proclaim they are made from recycled paper. 
 37 Trash bags claim to be degradable. A grocery chain touts its private label  
 38 cooking spray as environmentally friendly because it has no  
 39 chlorofluorocarbons - blamed for eating a hole in the Earth's protective ozone 
 40 layer. A half dozen oil companies this year introduced in limited test markets 
 41 premium gasolines formulated to reduce emissions. 
 42  
 43          ARE CONSUMERS INFLUENCED BY A COMPANY'S ENVIRONMENTAL STANCE?
 44    Three of every four Americans said a company's environmental reputation  
 45 affects what they buy, according to a poll conducted last summer for the  
 46 Michael Peters Group in New York. 
 47  
 48               WHAT IS THIS TREND DOING TO THE ADVERTISING MARKET?
 49    Expect more advertising appealing to environmental concerns. For several  
 50 years, the American Marketing Association's theme has been that marketing  
 51 makes a good life better. This year, the sub-theme was green marketing, said  
 52 Jeff Heilbrunn, president of the Chicago-based trade association. "Marketing  
 53 reflects society, and they are saying at this moment that they want these  
 54 things," he said. 
 55  
 56               WHAT DOES GREEN MARKETING MEAN IN CONSUMER COSTS?
 57    This heightened corporate interest in the environment comes at a price to  
 58 consumers, experts say. Because consumers are willing to pay more, prices of  
 59 some products have gone up with the addition of an environmental label, though 
 60 the product might not cost more to manufacture. In some industries, increased  
 61 environmental regulation and public protests caused prices to jump. 
 62  
 63               ARE COMPANIES CONCERNED WITH MISLEADING CLAIMS?
 64     "I fear exploitation," said Mary Ellen Burris, spokeswoman for Wegmans  
 65 Food Markets, a New York chain, explaining that misleading claims would erode  
 66 consumer confidence. 
 67  
 68             HAS GREEN MARKETING RESULTED IN CONFUSING LABELING?
 69    Yes. And some companies are backing off their claims. Mobil Chemical Co.,  
 70 for example, is deleting the "degradable" labels on its Hefty plastic bags  
 71 because of "the growing confusion about the meaning and value of  
 72 degradability," spokesman Allen Gray said. The composition of the bags will  
 73 remain the same. 
 74  
 75                   WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH MOBIL'S CLAIM?
 76    Mobil began making its plastic bags with an additive that speeds the bags'  
 77 decomposition when exposed to sunlight. But in a landfill, where most bags end 
 78 up, very little actually degrades. 
 79  
 80                  ARE MOST GREEN MARKETING CLAIMS TRUTHFUL?
 81    Some environmental claims cannot be substantiated, while others are  
 82 overstated and misleading because no government agency or trade association  
 83 regulates or defines environmental labeling. Too many environmental claims are 
 84 more sizzle than steak, said Edwin S. Rothschild, energy and environmental  
 85 policy director of Citizen Action group in the District of Columbia. "A lot of 
 86 companies are claiming things about their products that are not true," he  
 87 said. 
 88  
 89                     HOW ABOUT SHELL'S NEW PREMIUM GAS CLAIM?
 90    Shell's new premium gasoline, SU2000E, is better than its previous  
 91 gasolines, but only marginally, Rothschild said. "The company spent more time  
 92 preparing its marketing and advertising than in preparing the gasoline," he  
 93 said. "People shouldn't get the idea that they will have clean air after  
 94 burning the stuff" in their vehicles. 
 95  
 96           WHAT HAVE SOME OTHER COMPANIES BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF LABELING?
 97    Wal-Mart last summer launched a program that includes tagging merchandise  
 98 that is environmentally friendly. For example, Ivory Snow laundry detergent  
 99 and Charmin toilet tissue are tagged for their packaging made of recycled  
100 material. The chain asked suppliers to offer more recycled or recyclable  
101 products, said spokeswoman Jane Arend, but she said Wal-Mart would not boycott 
102 an uncooperative vendor. Additionally, Wal-Mart uses only paper bags in its  
103 stores, has a recycling program at its company headquarters in Bentonville,  
104 Ark., and is testing in-store recycling centers. 
105  
106              ARE THERE ANY COMPANIES WHO HAVE SHUNNED LABELING?
107    Wegmans Food Markets will not mark or identify environmental products on  
108 its shelves. "We want to be very cautious of the claims. New information is  
109 developing daily," spokeswoman Burris said. Marketing is the quickest and most 
110 visible response to consumer interest, but more meaningful developments take  
111 longer and are not always as noticeable, she said, citing the efforts of  
112 orange juice producer Tropicana. 
113  
114                          WHAT HAS TROPICANA DONE?
115    The Florida company is redesigning its juice jugs so that only one type of  
116 plastic resin is used, rather than layers of different resins. This allows the 
117 jugs to be recycled more easily. In Tropicana's case, the plastic will make it 
118 back to shelves as motor oil containers. 
119  
120              ARE AMERICANS READY TO MAKE ENVIRONMENTAL SACRIFICES?
121    Despite growing public interest in the environment, "it remains to be seen  
122 whether Americans are ready to make the sacrifice, pocketbook-wise ad  
123 convenience-wise," said Heilbrunn of the American Marketing Association. But  
124 as long as consumers express an interest in the environment, green marketing  
125 is here to stay. Said Rothchild: Corporations can read the polls as well as  
126 anyone else.
127 ===========================================================================
128                DEBATE - EARTH DAY 1990: USA TODAY'S OPINION:
129    If all goes as hoped, 100 million people will gather Sunday in 140  
130 countries ... The occasion is Earth Day 1990 ... The people of the United  
131 States dished out $1 trillion over two decades in taxes and higher prices to  
132 make things right. ... Today, fixing the environment is no longer just a  
133 problem for one city, or one region, or even one nation. It is a problem for  
134 the world. 
135  
136 OTHER VIEWS:
137    THOMAS DEGREGORI, economist at the University of Houston: Earth Day  
138 reflects legitimate concerns about environmental problems. Unfortunately, it  
139 is being used as a "consciousness-raising" vehicle for an action agenda  
140 detrimental to the well-being of Earth's inhabitants. ... Earth Day advocates  
141 express concerns we all share, but it would be folly to follow their  
142 prescriptions. 
143  
144    PATRICK COX, associate policy analyst for the Competitive Enterprise  
145 Institute: The Earth Day mentality is not only shallow and uninformed, it  
146 wastes resources on festivities and posturing that could have been put to good 
147 use solving real environmental problems.
148  
149    PETER DYKSTRA, Greenpeace: "Companies are using concern for the environment 
150 as a marketing tool to sell pollution. Instead of cleaning up their act, they  
151 are cleaning up their PR by wrapping themselves in the green flag." 
152  
153    WILLIAM REILLY, EPA administrator: "This country has a lot of work to do to 
154 cut down the pollution we produce." 
155  
156    CAMANCHE, IOWA, Juleen Barrows, 56, bank teller: I have not done a lot for  
157 the environment because I don't know how I can help. In our community, there  
158 is very little talk about the environment. I think it will take time before  
159 everyone gets together. Businesses and individuals must get involved. I hope  
160 that Earth Day will get people concerned. 
161  
162    TOLEDO, OHIO, Evelyn Hayes, 44, factory worker: The environment is a top  
163 concern. I am concerned about my kids and their kids. Whatever we can do now  
164 will help them later. I try to help by separating my trash for recycling.  
165 There are other issues, like the air quality, which affect everyone. Chemical  
166 plants must do their share to clean up the air. 
167  
168    ARLINGTON, TEXAS, John Jesme, 29, electronic technician: I realize that we  
169 abuse our planet, and I worry about my children and their future. I try to  
170 live in areas with less pollution for the health of my family. We are not  
171 planning anything special for Earth Day. You just can't set aside one day for  
172 the Earth. You've got to do it own a continuous basis. 
173  
174    BROOKLYN, N.Y., Robert Chan, 52, retired motorman: We should have started  
175 this recycling business a long time ago. The problems with the ozone layer  
176 could have been avoided. We sort our trash for recycling. I know that a  
177 miracle is not going to happen overnight. But all people must do their part. 
178  
179    SEATTLE, WASH., John Thorp, 47, school principal: We have got to do  
180 something to change this around for the welfare of the collective society.  
181 Many people have difficulty looking down the road. The environmental movement  
182 is doing a lot to counter the "me mentality," which is why I support the  
183 movement. This issue really needs to be a global concern. 
184  
185    HIGHLAND PARK, Debbie Lyman, 30, homemaker: I am a member of Greenpeace, so 
186 I'm aware of what is going on with our environment. I am mainly concerned  
187 about the children. The Earth was here for us. I just hope it will be there  
188 for them. I worry about air pollution, the ozone, and the future of our  
189 wetlands, which is home for many animals.
190                                                                                
191    So,  now that  Earth Day 1990  has come and gone,   what are   YOU   doing
192 for the environment???                                                     
193 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
194                                                                                
007=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   04/24/90 14:49  Msg:5178 Call:28718 Lines:23
195 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
196 Just thought I'd let everyone know that TWIN PEAKS is currently KILLING Cheers
197 in the ratings, swiping almost 1/3rd of the Cheers audience and earning almost 
198 equal ratings.  Not bad for a first     time show on ABC against such an old   
199 standby.  Especially when that old      standby has all the earmarks of a hit..
200 being themeless, plotless, free from    character development, and full of lots
201 of good old American SEX!!!
202  
203 What am I doing to support the memory of Earth Day??  I'm trying not to say 
204 much, to prevent global warming...
205  
206 So, in closing...
207  
208 'Citizens of Imar,'
209 'Go to the  Valley of Visions,'
210 'Where the Slain are Not Slain by the   Sword,'
211 'And in the Darkness, Where it is lightest,'
212 'There you Shall Find A Door...'
213  
214 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
215  
216 Then again...
217  
008=Usr:186 Wesley Smith      04/24/90 15:57  Msg:5179 Call:28721 Lines:5
218 Computer for sale.  Hundai X.T. compatable with #20. Meg. hard drive monochrome
219 monitor, printer,accent speech synthesizer and screen reader program and more. 
220 CAll 235-xxxx for more detals.  Tnx.. from Wesley Smith Ps. When you call ask f
221  
222 ask for Gloria.
009=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  04/25/90 08:04  Msg:5183 Call:28735 Lines:25
223 *%)(@#%(_)%(%_)($!@$()@$@+#_%()#$^*#$)(_)(%$%(^*_(%@#)+$_#(%)*$%(@_)$%@#)%*_)*
224 Voyeur: Sorry to hear about your infection. That's what you get for throwing
225 out original equipment and buying off-the-shelf parts. (gee, I hope such
226 humor goes over Ok!).
227  
228@ 
229 As for Chuck going to V32, I wouldn't sweat it. Sometimes Lisa's BBS list
230 is just plain wrong, or Chuck might be testing out ProYAM with a new
231 modem. I don't think he would give up his Telebit on a whimm - since it
232 is the standard modem for Unix connectivity. Also, I see that a new
233 version of the T2500 (just released) supports the most stringent standards
234 for error recovery (some of the V.42 stuff) - I believe it is a ROM upgrade
235 for existing T2500 owners, but is some lucky soul were to purchase one
236 now they would probably get the new ROMs installed. Just think about it!
237  
238 So, when does distopia hit the mainstream, or are you still stuck in that
239 backwater DOS world???
240  
241 AD/Milch: Does redsun still get shut off on the weekends by the janitor?
242 I notice a little news piling up every once in awhile. How is the full
243 feed going? Are you guys being good sysadmins and cleaning your logs
244 faithfully?
245  
246 *%_*%(%*)(!$!+_@%#%_)(%%^*!)($!%!(! L'homme sans Parity *$!*$_)~(#$+_!($#+_@)$+
247  
010=Usr:186 Wesley Smith      04/25/90 19:08  Msg:5185 Call:28743 Lines:2
248 I would like to know where i can obtain a copy of the program Eliza for the IBM
249 compatable computer.  I have an AT. machine I think it is a neet program, and i
011=Usr:103 Robin Ramsey      01/01/80 03:39  Msg:5186 Call:28749 Lines:12
250 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
251  
252 L'homme....ARG!!..It seems that the fates have dealt me a Terible blow. 
253 Just when all seemed to be going so well...The decision came down from 
254 on high.."AND the NEW HUB OF OPERATIONS WILL BE LOS ANGELES". Yup there ain't
255 no justice. Spent last week there ...Poor Barb...she was so overwhelmed by
256 the sheer excess of the place. We had some friends look after Alex & Mallory
257 while we gone. The house goes on the market here  on the 1st and we should
258 be in the city of angeles by July 1. Gawd this is going to be as fun as 
259 Root canal. 
260 I gotta see if my St. Helens gas mask is still in working order.
261 :::::::Alex:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
012=Usr:13 voyeur            01/01/80 04:42  Msg:5187 Call:28751 Lines:21
262 :::::::O O::::::::04/26/90:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::01:19:37::::O O::::::
263 L'homme: NOW you tell me!  I always though after-market equipment was so much
264          better than that OEM stuff... I heard about the great deals they had
265          in Texas and ran on down there and had them rip out the old stuff and
266          plug in the supposedly new&improved.  They didn't warn me that you
267          gotta beef up the peripherals and secondary systems which were 
268          designed around the lower performance original equipment.  Fools
269          rush in etc.
270          Re: T2500 - I saw that mention in InfoWorld about the V.42 upgrade
271          to said modem.  Interesting.  I've been meaning to give you a call
272          and see what might be worked out...
273 Alex:    (assuming you get back on before this cycles off into oblivion) -
274          I got all excited (well, somewhat enthused, anyway) when I heard you
275          would be returning to the land of the Rust Forests.  I've recently
276          introduced my eldest offspring to the joys of Global Domination,
277          and was hoping that he might continue his education under the gentle
278          hands of a Master.  Alas, it appears the Dark Lords have once again
279          managed to gain the upper hand, banishing the Master to the Lowest
280          Levels of Hell (Los Angeles?  Ugh!)  My sincerest condolences and
281          hopes for a speedy recovery.
282 :::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::
013=Usr:202 RICHARD  ROW      01/01/80 08:55  Msg:5188 Call:28752 Lines:4
283 I AM SITTING HERE AT 5:30 IN THE MORNING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS 
284 ANYTHING TO LIVE FOR. LIFE IS PAIN.
285 DAY AFTER DAY THE SHOW MUST GO ON BUT TIME SLIPPED AWAY AND THE CHANCES FOR 
286 HAPPINES WENT WITH IT.       LONELY..............GOODBYE.
014=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   01/01/80 18:45  Msg:5189 Call:28765 Lines:29
287  
288 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
289  
290      "How can you be so sure we're      inside a Triangle, Standor?"
291      The avian regarded Michael, his    amber eyes reflecting mock injury.
292 'Michael, my sensor bands would seem    to indicate that we've reached the
293 exact coordinates of a Stone Triangle,  and yet have shifted dimensionally.    
294 I am unable to pierce the dimensional   barrier of this environment, and as    
295 such have therefore concluded that the  Stone Triangle holds our present       
296 location... more likely than not in    the form of a compacted pocket
297 dimensional landscape...'
298      *How cute.* Mukluk mused, still    thoroughly dazed by the stomach
299 churning whirlwind that had taken       them to this bizarre world of two suns.
300 Absently, the husky assured himself     that his companions had avoided landing
301 on anyone wearng red shoes, but        avoided the obvious remark, choosing 
302 *Arf* instead.
303      'So where do we go from here?'
304      "Well, since we were trying to     figure out some way to get here in
305 the first place, we might as well make  the best of it and look for Friar..."
306      *Agreed.* Mukluk took a sidelong   glance and Standor, temporarily
307 cutting the falcon off from his         telepathic communications.  *We can    
308 boast of our powers of observation      along the way...*
309      "Stop that..." Michael snapped     under his breath.
310      Gathering up their scattered       personal belongings, which, save 
311 perhaps for Michael's phase pistol,     were of negligable use in a possibly   
312 hostile alien environment, the group    began a long trek towards the distant  
313 fields.
314  
315 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
015=Usr:286 Jeff Marten       01/02/80 06:29  Msg:5190 Call:28776 Lines:22
316  
317  
318 {+}{+}{+}{+}
319  
320              The following is not a paid political announcement.
321  
322          I promise to fight and/or continue the struggle against any
323           or all of the top five sociological problems my research
324         indicates are the issues voters in my target demographic are
325            most concerned about when they may or may not enter the
326            voting booth on election day or mail in their absentee
327                                   ballots.
328  
329                                  Thank you.
330  
331                              -+|[ ThingFish ]|+-
332                         Gimme Them Ole Time Politics
333  
334              The preceding was not a paid political announcement
335  
336 {+}{+}{+}{+}
337  
016=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      01/02/80 17:18  Msg:5191 Call:28785 Lines:2
338 THINGFISH:  Are you really Bob Packwood in disguise?
339                                                                                
017=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   01/02/80 18:52  Msg:5192 Call:28788 Lines:3
340 Suicidal Individual:  People who commit suicide have to become civil servants
341 in the afterlife.
342  
018=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   01/03/80 21:43  Msg:5193 Call:28801 Lines:8
343  
344 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
345 In saying nothing, you speak volumes.
346  
347 Now, if you'll excuse me, I must be     off.  There seems to be a fish in my
348 perculator.
349  
350 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
019=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  01/06/80 13:57  Msg:5198 Call:28841 Lines:9
351 &*&*&*&*'s
352 Just a mark upon the wall that fails to scroll.  Words to mark it, on our 
353 screens to fill.
354  
355 Trying to catch the essence.
356  
357 An Astral Dreamer
358 &*&*&*&*'s
359  
020=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   01/06/80 18:53  Msg:5199 Call:28848 Lines:58
360 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
361 Friar:  It couldn't have stumped you    THIS badly, could it?
362  
363  
364  
365      %Then all goes well, Yl'Ben?%  The voice was tinged with dripping
366 sarcasm and the sibilance of escaping   steam.  %Surely it must...%
367      Yl'Ben ignored his partner's       overtones.  +As well as can be
368 expected, considering our template.     True, the presence  of the damnable    
369 Nemesis could have kept the Vortex      running much more smoothly, but at the
370 very least the Quantier is secured in   the Triangle.+
371      %Along with the Nemesis.%
372      +Win some, lose some, Dwin.+
373      %I still don't like it.  Even if   they are trapped, Michael is still
374 resourceful.%
375      +Frightened?+ a smirk crossed      Yl'Ben's features.
376      %Concerned for the security of     the project.  Lord knows we've had a
377 difficult enough time dealing with      the Pyrrixian Technocracy Astrologers, 
378 let alone DIM-Runners and aliens        leading the permutations astray.  The  
379 last thing we need is to bring a Time   Nemesis right into the middle of a     
380 paradox of this magnitude.%
381      +Poetic justice.+
382      %We'd be safer if he were still    helplessly scouring the planet in his  
383 asteroid.%
384      Yl'Ben ran a gloved hand through   his tousled blonde hair.  +Calm
385 yourself.  You've looked at the         readings as closely as I  have.  The   
386 process has already begun.  Our         plants have been leading Friar to the  
387 Pool, and the Desert Tower has          resurfaced.  The paradox flows, my     
388 earstwhile ally.+
389      Dwim regarded the calculations     on his own monitor.  %And accounting
390 for the human factor, there's still a   -high- probability that something may
391 turn awry.%
392      +We'll deal with that-+
393      %-When the moment comes...%        Dwim finished, disgusted.  %A pathetic 
394 attitude.  And then there's the matter  of PPyrrix itself.%
395      Yl'Ben's eyes widened in mock      horror.  +God above, I hope that the
396 PATRIOTS don't find me!+
397      %There is more to this paradox     than one might initially suspect...%
398      +If you're referring to Pyrrix's   attracting so many outworlders, then
399 rest easy.  Granted, they've thrown     off matters, but we've been gearing    
400 things back on course.  So far, the     only unforseen incident was when 
401 the Nemesis killed the vagrant in the   alleyway.+
402      Dwim started suddenly. %Did you    run readings on it?%
403      +Anomaly.  Nothing more.  Probably due to Michael's divergent thought
404 pattern... the systems can't really     compensate for an individual whose mind
405 is as sharply divided between subtle    extremes as Michael's.+
406      %Translation?%
407      +Michael was out of sorts.+
408      %Not good enough.  What about the  shift that the Nemesis went through 
409 during the course of his exploits.  It  seemed to begin at about the time that 
410 the Quantier moved him from Friar's     proximity for the first time.%
411      +Again, an anoaly, probably due   to the presence of the paradox.+
412      %We MUST ensure that the Nemesis   does NOT have the opportunity to 
413 rationalize the Vortex!% Dwim snapped.
414      +Again, how can he?  He hasn't     the tools or materials to create the
415 Quantier...+
416  
417 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::(Oooh, Friar, aren't I nasty?)====
021=Usr:4 Milchar           01/08/80 03:04  Msg:5200 Call:28869 Lines:7
418 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
419 L'homme: But of COURSE we are.  Redsun was being a little stubborn about its
420 nasty habit of wedging the serial port when news overflowed /home, but I
421 out-stubborned it with a lil' help from perl and cron...
422 BTW, hope you got packet.exe and sttng.zoo okay, I'll send my autoexec.bat
423 and config.sys tomorrow...
424 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
022=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   01/09/80 19:04  Msg:5201 Call:28892 Lines:15
425 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
426 Quick!  Hurry!  Someone post something  below this message, and I'll post
427 another message, and then someone else  can post one, and I'll post another,
428 and EvEnTuAlLy we'll reach the bottom!  Shouldn't take more'n a decade!
429  
430 Mikey: Does this slump happen every     year?
431  
432  
433 'Someday my log will have something to  say about this...'
434 'What will it say?'
435 'Ask it....  ....  .... I thought so.'
436  
437 'DAMN fine BBS!  Hmmm, probably the best BBS I've ever tasted...'
438  
439 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::(Fire - Hop With Me)=====:::::====
023=Usr:186 Wesley Smith      01/09/80 21:04  Msg:5202 Call:28894 Lines:11
440 I would like to talk with other blind users of this system.  I am interested in
441 what kind of speech software they are using to access the system.  Please call 
442 
443 
444 
445 Please disregard previous messa I really screwed up this time help i am not 
446 re what to do when i loose my place.  Now i will try again.  I am interested in
447 chatting with other blind users of this system, I am interested in what kinds o
448 speech software they are using to accessing the system.  Call wesley Smith at
449 231-xxxx after 5 pm. any time before 10 pm, and all day long on the weekends 
450 TNX.  Wesley Smith. Have a good Weekend everyone Happy computering and
024=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   01/10/80 21:19  Msg:5203 Call:28908 Lines:9
451 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
452 This disk must be cursed.  No new       entries in a day.  Am I the only 
453 one still calling Backwater?  Or are you all locked into lurk mode.
454  
455 'Mommy, tell me again about the time    when there still was a Backwater?'
456  
457 'Sorry, dear, I can't remember that far back...'
458  
459 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
025=Usr:189 Smiling Sandi     05/06/90 21:21  Msg:5207 Call:28938 Lines:5
460 OKAY EVERYONE, DON'T FORGET YOUR MOM ON MOTHER'S DAY, SUNDAY, MAY 15TH!!
461 WELL, IT'S OFF TO THE BAHAMAS FOR ME (AGAIN) -- GOTTA DO THAT SWIMSUIT SHOOT
462 FOR NEXT SPRING.  HAVE FUN!
463 SMILING SANDI!!
464 =================++++++++++++++++++=================++++++++++++++++===========
026=Usr:4 Milchar           05/06/90 23:07  Msg:5208 Call:28939 Lines:3
465 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
466 Zephyr:  Writer's block.
467 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++
027=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  05/07/90 07:04  Msg:5210 Call:28943 Lines:6
468 &*&*&*&*'s
469 I lurk there for I am.
470  
471 An Astral Dreamer
472 &*&*&*&*'s
473  
028=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  05/07/90 08:39  Msg:5211 Call:28944 Lines:16
474 *%^_@%*@%(@_)%(!%(_)%(_!+%()_*%(_)%()_(%*%#*^_)()$(!_)$(~_)(#$_%*(_)$(!$(_)%*!!
475 Milch: I got the packet driver and the trek stuff. I never got your autoexec
476 or config file, but I got the stuff working anyway. Pretty neat, though the
477 lpr stuff is still acting a little funny. The telnet works great, and all
478 those sessions!
479  
480 Alex: What rotten news! I am going to be in LA (laaaaa) from June 10-16th,
481 but I suppose you won't be done there yet. This is really crummy... so close
482 to dusting off the old RISK game, and yet so far. Well, at least you are on
483 the same continent.
484  
485 voyeur: T2500's look like the way to go. If you order a modem now, you should
486 get the new ROMs automatically. Is your beast still functioning adequately?
487 How about those "fixed" screen memory locations???
488 *$_@*(%_)*^_)*()%(^)&^%*(@#%(%)@#%(@ L'homme sans Parity *%_)@(_)(!$()#!@)$*(!
489  
029=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      05/07/90 22:14  Msg:5212 Call:28960 Lines:2
490 I am therefor I lurk.
491 ---------------------
030=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock   05/08/90 10:40  Msg:5213 Call:28965 Lines:2
492 I think I am, therefore I clutter.
493  
031=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      05/08/90 18:11  Msg:5214 Call:28968 Lines:2
494 I think I can therefor I don't.
495 ---------------------------
032=Usr:186 Wesley Smith      05/09/90 21:02  Msg:5216 Call:28973 Lines:14
496 How do you use the mall room?  I can not figure out how to use that feature
497 of this board.  I am really enjoying using my modem and i hope to do in the 
498 in the future.  I will now  give you #2. limerics i made up for Mount ST.
499 Hellens. 
500 a man once climbed a volcano, but the ground, it was hotter than draino.  He
501 
502  
503 I messed up again please forgive me i am an amature computer
504 user. now i will try again with my limerics.  A man onec climbed a volcano,
505 But the ground it was hotter than draino.  He soon learned h
506  
507 his lesson, Don't ever go messon round the top of an active volcano.
508 A mountain once riddled in sin, Soon changed the great shape she was in.  Thoug
509 the sign said no smokin, She had people chokin.  Cause the Devil was smokin wit
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510 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
511 Oooh!  I've used up all but 116 lines of my access for this disk!  That means
512 that the other users are STILL going to have to enter about 350 lines of text! 
513 Whatever shall I do, wherever shall I   go...
514 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::(The One Eared Lagomorph)=::::====
034=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  05/11/90 09:29  Msg:5221 Call:28992 Lines:7
515  
516 ($%_)@#()_!#($!($)!($_)(~_)@($!@$+_!)@+_$)!+_$(#%*@#*%^$)^*)(_)$)!+@_*$)#*%&_)
517 Milch: had a little trouble with telnet. Silly me forgot the /etc/shells
518 file required for people who use *real* shells on their systems. Pretty
519 slick package...
520 (*@(%*@#*%_)(_)%(_)*%^_)%@#%(@)*@#*_ L'homme sans Parity (*$@(@*%_)%_%@#(%@#(%@
521  
035=Usr:13 voyeur            05/12/90 01:15  Msg:5226 Call:29020 Lines:11
522 :::::::O O:::::::::05/12/90::::::::::::::::::::::::01:16:39::::::O O::::::::
523 This year's winning entry in the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest:
524 	"Dolores breezed along the surface of her life like a flat stone
525 	forever skipping along smooth water, ripping reality sporadically
526 	but oblivious to it consistently, until she finally lost momentum,
527 	sank and, due to an overdose of flouride as a child which caused
528 	her to suffer from chronic apathy, doomed herself to lie forever
529 	on the floor of her life as useless as an appendix and as lonely
530 	as a 500-pound barbell in a steroid-free fitness center."
531 OK, now you have something to aim for.
532 ::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::
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533 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
534  
535 Just a marker, ripping reality most     sporadically, but oblivious to it
536 consistently...
537  
538 'This must be the place pies go when    they die...'
539  
540 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
037=Usr:227 Kenneth Yankee    05/15/90 04:27  Msg:5229 Call:29071 Lines:7
541 ** WANTED **
542 A tennis partner that has Sunday - Tuesday available, (prefer a female under
543 30. I am a male, 26). Please write back or call me directly (206) 737-2788.
544  
545                                         ]<enneth
546 ===============================================================================
547  
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548 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
549  
550 With the season finale of TWIN PEAKS    coming up in a few weeks, I thought
551 I'd prompt the users to suggest their   answers to the mystery of Laura 
552 Palmer's untimely (?) demise.  Your     personal theories?
553  
554 'Where we're from, the birds sing a     pretty song, and there's always
555 music in the air...'
556  
557 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====::Zepyr with One J==:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
039=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      05/16/90 15:00  Msg:5232 Call:29098 Lines:196
558 696969696969
559 6a of many              The Little UFO that Could 
560                         ************************* 
561                         *       TOP SECRET      * 
562                         ************************* 
563                              GAMMA SIGMA PHI 
564                            FOR YOUR EYES ONLY 
565                                   by 
566                             Benjamim Jamen 
567   
568              "You only see me as I am now and even I am
569               not sure who that is." -N. Young
570              "Dare we assume the earth to be a prison,
571              the final destination of the human experience?" -Daniel Boorstin
572  
573 I cleared out peaceably before lunchtime.  Public Radio was having some
574 sort of pledge on the way home.  I thought about stopping by a telephone
575 booth on the way back and pledging some amount of dollars, but then
576 decided it was too dangerous to pull over to the side of the road (there
577 are a couple of phones across from the fire station).  After being home
578 for a while, I forgot about Public Radio.  
579  
580 That night I sat on a bench in the back yard, watching the stars
581 overhead.  There seemed to be an unusual number of shooting stars on
582 this night.  That reminded me of the 'near miss' with an asteriod we had
583 earlier this year.  I'd overheard that an astrophysicist at JPL believes
584 we have entered an unusually dirty part of the galaxy and can expect to
585 see more near misses until we are through this galactic asteriod belt. 
586 One object even survived its fiery passage through the atmosphere and
587 exploded over Siberia, a mere 80 years ago, causing substantial damage. 
588 There I go, always telling you everything, even about things that are
589 not even published (don't even know if this one is really even true
590 since I did not talk with the astophysicist personally).  Someone out
591 there probably hates me for it.  Maybe that's the real reason why I'm on
592 three months of probation.
593  
594 I pulled out a pencil (yes, I do not need a computer to write) and began
595 composing a letter.
596  
597 Priscilla:
598 First of all, I've always wanted to tell you that, for such a beautiful
599 woman, your name stinks.  I realize your real name is something like
600 Chen Hao-Cheih Koshito and that most people in the West aren't up to
601 pronouncing something like that.  In fact, most people from Japan and
602 China probably have difficulties with it since it is a mixture of both
603 cultures, as you are.  Anyway, I KNOW you picked that name before coming
604 over her because you thought it had something to do with something nice
605 like "Princess".  Well, it doesn't.  The name stinks and you should
606 discard it for one more suitable.  We can work on it together, if you
607 like.
608  
609 By the way, Howy thinks it is absolutely hilarious that you want to have
610 a name which sounds like 'princess'.
611  
612 The second thing is Bob.  Bob thinks the other kids his age are morons
613 for good reason.  They are.  I don't know if you realize this, but he
614 had no business entering the first grade this year.  Any 6 year old who
615 reads 'Finnegans Wake' (and is smart enough to admit he doesn't
616 understand it-please tell him to stop fretting the importance of
617 expressing 'allspace in a notshall' unless he specifically intends to
618 go nuts) and does elementry algebra does not belong in the first
619 grade.  I realize he took that test which was supposed to place him
620 appropriately, but you must be aware that he had no chance to pass it at
621 all after he called the Test Administrator a "miserable cretin".  Bob
622 might be smart, but he does not know how to get along in society.  You
623 will not survive very well in this society by calling Test
624 Administrators "cretins".
625  
626 Maybe it's time to get to the point.  I am writing you tonight because I
627 am lonely.  Something very terrible happened today.  I got fired.  Well,
628 that's really not true.  I am on 3 months probation due to our little
629 incident at Frizby's.  They might as well have fired me, though.  After
630 the 3 months are over, they will run some more tests on me.  If I pass,
631 things are back to normal.  If I don't, I'm on the street.  Not a good
632 prospect...
633  
634 I am also writing you because I am angry (or, if you will excuse me,
635 PI**ED!) at your father for withholding the rest of the TOI papers. 
636 Please tell him that what he has is a collection of worthless
637 mathematical games unless he releases them for everyone in the world to
638 analyze and verify.  They could be very important, but 'could be's' are
639 meaningless.  Remember that precious vase you told me you saw in Mainland
640 China once?  Remember you said that it is not possible to reproduce the
641 vase with any materials known to us today?  The reason the vase cannot
642 be reproduced is that the selfish idiot who originally produced it
643 didn't carefully document the process.  Hiding knowledge is the way of
644 ancient China.  As you have said, the Western man's greatest misgiving is
645 that he talks so much and says so little.  However, he says everything
646 (and, unfortunately, more) that he is aware of-there are no secrets. 
647 I'd like to say he does this because he realizes that knowledge must
648 change hands to become valuable, in exactly the same way that money must
649 change hands in order to have any value.  The ancient Chinese and
650 Japanese hid their technologies, they horded them, because they believed
651 knowledge was power.  Wouldn't it be nice if there were a thousand such
652 vases in the world today, in places where everyone could see them? 
653 Alas, that will not happen because the process died with its selfish
654 originator. 
655  
656 If your father is holding onto the TOI papers because he believes that
657 knowledge is power, please tell him he is being foolish.  The papers are
658 absolutely worthless unless they are scrutinized.  It is very likely
659 they must be scrutinized while Dr. Samatsi is still alive so that we can
660 discuss our concerns in earnest with this brilliant man.
661  
662 I didn't even mean to mention this in this letter.  There are many other
663 things I want to talk to you about.  However, I've always had trouble
664 talking with women.  That is the only reason I've never gotten married. 
665 Never could seem to say the right things.  First of all, I want to say
666 thanks for helping Howy get me home that night.  I know you risked your
667 job by doing that and appreciate you very much so.
668  
669 Second of all, I want to say thank you for being with me in the hospital
670 and sticking by me when it looked like I had done something very
671 terrible.  What I told you before is true: I have never taken drugs in
672 my life.  Let me caveat that.  In my younger days, I smoked marijuana
673 about 10 times.  That might shock you, considering the culture you are
674 from, but let me assure you it was quite common in the late 1960's to
675 smoke marijuana.  To be frank with you, I never did like it because it
676 made me cough a lot and didn't make me feel particularly pleasant at
677 all.  That's probably why I never smoke cigarettes, either.  Anyway, I
678 honestly do not understand what happened that night, but suspect someone
679 drugged my beer for a joke.  That joke might have cost me my livelihood.
680  
681 Why did I smoke marijuana then?  To be with friends.  To be with
682 friends then was so different than it is now.  No one had to prove
683 anything, if you didn't want to smoke, it was okay.  This whole concept
684 of friendship was more important to us than our attire, appearance, or
685 philosophy.  We had hard core conservatives, wild eyed liberals,
686 ecological maniacs, religious wierdos, and just about anyone else you could
687 imagine.  What bound us together was the communal need for togetherness.
688 There is no word for this need.  Perhaps you can teach me some Japanese
689 some day-maybe that culture has a word for this human need.
690  
691 Over the last twenty years, Americans have cloaked this need-they hide
692 from it.  Probably they wallowed in it for so long that they neglected
693 their material needs.  Now that we've pretty much gone about as far as
694 we can on the material gamut, things will probably begin to swing back. 
695 I see that in my neighbors, sometimes.  When I first moved here (my
696 house was the first in this section to be completed, by the way), we
697 were harshly critical and intolerant of one another.  Now we are 
698 beginning to act like we need each other, despite the wide diversity of
699 individual backgrounds and cultures in this little neighborhood.  
700  
701 This turn of events makes me wonder if society is not changing.  For
702 several millennia, perhaps for as long as written history, military
703 spending has dominated government budgets.  When military spending did
704 not dominate a government's budget (such as the 'redirected' funds of
705 the Ching dynasty which wound up landscaping the family garden), the
706 government collapsed due to invasion.  I am not a historian, but this
707 generally seems to be the case.  However, now we are not being invaded
708 by other countries; in fact, most civilized countries realize that
709 military means are the most undesirable approach to securing another
710 country's resource.  The violent threat today is from terriorism, not
711 from standing armies.  Already, at least two airliners have been blown
712 out of the air this year and many hundreds (if not thousands) of
713 innocent lives lost in this terrorist war.
714  
715 Funny, when starting that paragraph, I was leading up to the point that
716 we don't need armies anymore.  After writing it, I became convinced
717 otherwise.  It is like deciding what the result of an equation is in
718 advance and then being surprised by the actual result.
719  
720 But the planned/calculated destruction of life has always seemed so
721 wasteful to me.  Would you destroy a field of diamonds? Would you send a
722 boat full of gold to the bottom of the sea? No.  However, you would
723 march into battle, and destroy another intelligence without a second
724 thought, even though that single intelligence is more valuable than all
725 the diamonds and gold in the solar system.  You work hard to earn money,
726 but do not work hard to preserve this quality which, from all the
727 evidence we have to date, is a unique event in the universe.  Gold and
728 diamonds can be found scattered all across the void.  But there is no
729 evidence, other than unproven theories, that intelligence exists
730 anywhere else.
731  
732 We have armies to protect ourselves.  Why do we want to protect
733 ourselves? To stay alive.  To keep our society alive.  Why then do we
734 not invest heavily into expanding our species off this planet so that we
735 can collectively live even longer? Close to 200 million years ago, the
736 impact of an asteriod theoretically terminated entire species.  Why
737 should we feel we are more immune to an inhospitable universe which is
738 lobbing rocks in our direction than to spears from a neighboring tribe?
739 The greatest irony of this era may be when we, with our state-of-the-art
740 spears pointed at another, suddenly look up and realize that in our
741 incredible stupidity we've been preparing for the wrong disaster.  That
742 will probably be the last time our species looks up at the heavens.
743  
744 Sorry, didn't mean to get so dismal.  Lately I seem to be getting off on
745 tangents like that quite a bit.  Maybe the boss ws right.  Maybe I
746 should see a shrink.  How can someone be so bothered by something as
747 obscure as the survival of a species?
748  
749 As usual, I let this letter go on a bit too long.  My apologies.
750 I just want to tell you that I value your friendship above all else. 
751 Thank you....Ben    (...to be continued)
752 696969696969696969
753                                                                             
040=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      05/16/90 20:59  Msg:5233 Call:29115 Lines:2
754 Jim Henson is dead. I don't feel like writing today.
755 --------------------------------------------------------
041=Usr:189 Smiling Sandi     05/17/90 11:28  Msg:5234 Call:29119 Lines:10
756 *********************************
757 TO KENNETH WHO WANTED A TENNIS PARTNER.  I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY TENNIS.  IN
758 FACT, THERE ARE TWO TENNIS COURTS AT THE CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX WHERE I LIVE
759 THAT CAN BE USED AT NO COST TO TENANTS.  I AM A FEMALE UNDER 30 (I'M 27).
760 LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING.  I MUST WARN YOU, HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN 
761 A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE I PLAYED (ALTHOUGH I WAS ON THE VARSITY TEAM IN
762 HIGH SCHOOL)
763  
764 SMILING SANDI
765 *********************************
042=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      05/18/90 13:51  Msg:5238 Call:29138 Lines:33
766 696969696969
767 part 6b
768 ------------
769 Prissy's reply:
770  
771 Dear Ben:
772 It was very kind of you to send such a letter.  I appreciate your
773 thoughtfulness. 
774  
775 My father told me you have doctorate in mathematics, but will not let
776 anybody call you Dr. Jamen.  The Japanese believe the man who drop his
777 title for better purpose is most honorable.  I believe you are very
778 honorable.  
779  
780 I pick my name from baby book.  The next time we meet, we can look at
781 the book and pick another name.  I do not know good name or bad name and
782 know we can pick a good name.
783  
784 The equations you desire are the propety of my father.  You must discuss
785 with him.  But, please remember, it is not good to have too much desire,
786 whether this desire is for yourself or for mankind.  You will not
787 accomplish your purpose if you have too much desire.
788  
789 Sorry my English so bad.
790 (She signed her name in oriental strokes-I've no idea if they are
791 Chinese or Japanese)
792 --------
793 I put down the letter and looked up.  'my purpose'?  Had she read
794 something into the letter which was not intended?  Oh well, who cares... 
795 --------(...to be continued...)
796 =========================================================================
797 696969696969696969
798                                                                          
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800  
801 'She's my cousin, but doesn't she also  look exactly like Laura Palmer?'
802  
803 'She is Laura Palmer.'
804  
805 'I feel I know her, but sometimes my    arms bend back...'
806  
807 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
044=Usr:65 tomasz fijak      05/18/90 17:56  Msg:5240 Call:29145 Lines:5
808 I would like to find someone that could help me to understand VT-100
809 so I could access the Multnoma library system.I have a Sanyo 885-II
810@My user No. is 65
811 send
812 I am user 65
045=Usr:229 Corwin of Opalst  05/20/90 01:41  Msg:5242 Call:29167 Lines:14
813 Geez, has it been a LOG time since I'VE been here. In portland at 
814 al hti, much lessBackwater.  Go away to schoo or a year or 
815 s and everythig turns upside down.  Anyway,just wanted to say 
816 "iote peope on the one buulletin Boardthat I remember that 
817 sill sems to be up and running...
818    Um, I edited this thin on my terminal's editor-- is it as scrambled
819 as it looks on my screen, now that I've sent it?
820  
821 			      Corwin of Opalstar
822 Guess so.  I just read those lines over again.  Oh well.  Don't worry, they
823 weren't important anyway....
824  
825 a 9
826 a 9
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828 Friar: Lurk Mode?
829  
830 'HE'S the Psychiatrist?'
831  
832 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::TWIN PEAKS is 28th in ratings!!===
047=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  05/21/90 14:02  Msg:5244 Call:29185 Lines:7
833 &*&*&*&*'s
834 Just Lurking again.  Will this writters block never end?
835  
836 An Astral Dreamer
837 &*&*&*&*'s
838  
839  
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840 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
841  
842 'Laura... Laura...' *Squaaawk*
843  
844 'Don't go there...'
845  
846 'No, Stop...'       *Squaaawk*
847  
848 'Leo, no!'
849  
850 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::Anybody Got a Doughnut?==:::::====
049=Usr:352 Katie Kolbet      05/21/90 22:23  Msg:5246 Call:29189 Lines:22
851 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
852  
853 Well, if anybody cares or even is curious, I'm back.  Yes, it's been a long
854 rough year at college, but I finally finished my Freshman junk, and now
855 I can move on to bigger and better things(I hope!!!)  Astral Dreamer, I see 
856 you're still lurking....How's it going?  Zephyr, I remember you being on
857 the board before, but I don't believe we've ever talked.  Hello, anyway.  
858 I notice Friar hasn't been on, but if he does come on before this listing
859 runs out, then hello to him as well.  And, if I've forgotten anyone, well,
860 they have three and a half months to berate me for it!!!!!!
861  
862 In response to whoever noticed the Muppet Man had died, I mourn him as well.
863 I guess this means no more Muppet movies....And what about Kermit?  Sigh,
864 my generation is one of the few who lived for the Muppet show.  Oh well,
865 now the kids all go out and see those stupid Turtles.....
866  
867 Anyway,  Hideyho and hello to you all, hope to hear some response!!!
868  
869 Talk back later..........
870  
871        Kaitlyn
872 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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874 Kaitlyn: As far as the Muppet Movies,   I'm afraid that Mr. Henson's death
875 hasn't put a Wisdom Dampher on the      Studios, because production for the
876 next Muppet Movie is underway ven as we speak... complete with anew (and
877 certainly less distinctive) voice for   Kermit...  I believe they're going to  
878 be going with the Kermit voice from the 'Muppet Babies' Saturday Morning 
879 animated series...  The only other data I have is that this will be the first
880 big budget major-release 3-D movie in   years (Friday the YThirteenth 3 and 
881 Jaws 3 don't count...).  Go figure...   'Hey!  Look out!  Here come the
882 Flying FISH!!!  Aiiieeeeeeeee!'
883  
884 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
885  
886      *Are you sure you're going to be   all right, Michael?* Mukluk rose as he
887 spoke, shaking the pink shale dust from his shaggy frame and pawing at his
888 tired brown eyes.
889      "I'll be fine...  I just need some time by myself..." He gestured to the
890 hill nearby.  "Why not join the others  in base camp and let me-"
891      *Others?  Just Standor...*
892      Michael paused for a moment,       regarding the husky quizically.  
893 "Oh..." he finally said. "Of course.    Join him and I'lll be with you before
894 you know it."
895      Looking back a few times, the      great beast crossed over the peak of
896 the hill, vanishing from sight.
897      
898      Reaching into his pack, Michael    quicly withdrew several objects... a
899 stone candlestick, a thin-bladed knife, and a waxy bar of green material.
900 Oblivious to the blistering heat of the twin suns, Michael continued his work,
901 cutting a thin strip from the bar,      pressing it firmly into place in the   
902 candlestick, and working the stone bottom into the loose dirt and rose-colored 
903 dust just in front of him.  
904      That done, he quickly retrieved    the temporarily discardedd blade and
905 used the incredibly sharp edge to carve a circle around himself in the ground,
906 making sure it was deep enough that the low wind wouldn't fill any parts of it 
907 in the moments that were to come.  He   wasn't sure how his efforts would be   
908 received in the confines of the Stone    Triangle's miniature world, but he    
909 hoped that they would be sufficient to  overcome the energy barrier, if such   
910 efforts proved necessary.
911      Lighting a small Bic-Tech, he      used the fine laser point to 
912 instantly ignite the stick, which began releasing thick clouds of blue smoke 
913 into the air before Michael's eyes.     Tired from his long journey, from the  
914 struggles of his daily existence, it was no difficuly for the Enforcer to allow
915 himself to drift away in the clouds of  incense...  To allow his spirit free   
916 reign, becoming oblivious to the burning heat on his back, the wind, slipping  
917 away...
918  
919 * * *
920  
921      "Where am I?"
922      The man in white gestured behind   him.  +-+This is the Whitte Tower.
923 Have you not been here before?+-+
924      "Not personally.  But one of my    own..."
925      +-+Of course!+-+ The stranger's    pearly smile broadened.  +-+The
926 canid...  Mukluk, if I remember the     name...  Charming fellow, if a bit on
927 the 'eager' side, if you catch my       meaning...+-+
928      "Ambition is not a crime..."
929      +-+Remember where you are when you say things such as that.+-+ Thunder
930 filled the landscape.
931      
932 * * *
933  
934      "Where am I?"
935      @Welcome to SINAT, my somewhat     non-corporeal friend.  The Seeker and
936 his comerades have been expecting you   for quite some time...@
937      "Seeker?  What year is this?"
938      @Why should that matter...@  The   anddroid in the three piece suit
939 regarded Michael for a moment...  @You  ARE a friend of Standor's, aren't you?@
940      "Yes, but I don't belong here      just now..."
941      @Killjoy...  These etherial types  just get on my nerves...@
942  
943 * * * 
944  
945      "Where am I?"
946      ^Michael...  So good of you to     return...  After so much time...^
947      "The road was filled with more     obscurities today."
948      ^So I've noticed.^
949      Michael was momentarily distracted by the soft purring in the background.
950 "What's that?"
951      The disembodied voice became       joyful.  ^Ooh!  Those are whale songs.
952 Aren't they just to de for?^
953      "Quite."
954      ^But I'm not being at all          the attentive host.  You're going to
955 require something more substantial for  your stay...^  The wavering mistscape
956 shuddered and reconceptualized into a   waiting room done in muted pinks.
957      Very nice..."
958      ^Correct me if I'm wrong, but you  said something about obscurities...^
959      "Two of them, today.  They weren't substantial enough for me to pinpoint
960 the details...  the White Tower,        naturally from the past, since it      
961 doesn't exist anymore... and a little   jaunt to SINAT, probably in the        
962 future."
963      ^Oh, quite.  I took the crew there just yesterday^
964      "Was the Seeker having a party?"
965      ^Why YES!  Odd, that you should    Inhabit a moment so close to my 
966 present...  More likely than not a      sign of trouble ahead for you...^
967      "I'm here to ask your advice on a  matter of great importance..."
968      ^Oh damn it all.  Is it time for   that Quantier episode?^
969      The whale songs became more urgent and fleeting.
970      "Yes."
971      ^And you and Mukluk and Standor    are all trapped in the Stone Triangle.
972 Right?^
973      "Yes."
974      ^I've had more difficulties with   those Triangles!  I'm SURE that it's
975 a pleasing distraction for them, but    sometimes I just wish that the 
976 Anglers hadn't made them...  Either way, you know I can't give out advice
977 on a matter involving a currently       existing temporal paradox.  It just    
978 isn't done...^
979      "I know, but..."  
980      The voice became petty and harsh,  and the whale songs grated against
981 the sky.  ^You know the penalties...    I believe I must take my leave of you, 
982 Michael.  Goodbye.^
983      Michael's head fell forward into   his hands, which even now began to 
984 fade.  "Goodbye, Michael..."
985  
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051=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      05/22/90 19:29  Msg:5248 Call:29202 Lines:5
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988 a moment of silence in honor of Jim Henson and Sammy Davis Jr...            
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991  
052=Usr:352 Katie Kolbet      05/22/90 20:58  Msg:5249 Call:29204 Lines:8
992 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
993 I know that Jim Henson's death doesn't mean the end of the Muppets, but it will
994 just not be the same without him.  And as for New Zealand's flying fish, well
995 I have a friend who's really good at that voice......
996  
997 Good Luck to all of you competitors for the top slot!!!!!!!!
998  
999 Kaitlyn   ++++++++++++++++++++++++