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LIST FILE ON MARGIN IS 80 STATUS: ALL ALLOWED NUMBER OF LINES: 629 1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask...... 2 *********************** REMOVED: 30 JUL 83 ************************* 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON 6 THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. 10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and 11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the 12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive 13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be 14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on 16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'. 17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out 18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored. 19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake, 20 use the replace command to replace the line. 21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 23 ======================================== 24 25 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 26 i made the top AGAIN? why isn't 27 anyone typing out there? 28 Aaron at 08:09 29 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 30 sysm: 31 32 "Experience keeps a dear school, 33 but fools will learn in no other" 34 35 maxim prefixed to 36 Poor Richard's Almanac 37 1757 38 39 Doubting Thomas at 08:22 40 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 41 I know that the phone co. used to sell something (I think it was 42 called a DAA?) that would allow connection of homebrew equipment 43 to the phone line. I heard that they no longer have them available 44 but that someone still sells them. Anyone out there have more 45 info. (come on BAD, I KNOW you work for Ma Bell! surely you have 46 SOME idea?) 47 I might be interested in such a device myself if I knew 48 where to get one. 49 I suspect that they will be expensive, because of all 50 things they have to protect against. Shorting the line, feeding 51 wrong current/voltage to line, AF/IF/RF leakage to the line.... 52 (any care to add some more?) 53 ps anyone have any HARD INFO about how the TTY for the 54 deaf setups work? 55 __________________________Leonard______________________________ 56 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 57 i am extremly intrested in such TTY 58 info myself,Leonard,let me know if you 59 find anything,and if you are planning 60 to use ASR-33's,I have just run across 61 a complete service/pm/schemataic set 62 on them....... 63 Aaron at 10:40 64 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 65 B.A.D. just figured it out.... 66 well????????? 67 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 68 I would be forced to agree that we 69 can't limit a concept such as mapability 70 from argument just because it was "born" 71 in mathmatics,yet i don't think we can 72 place relevance on your propaganda 73 argument as an argument to my argument 74 simply because it appears to "map" 75 Aaron at 11:04 76 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 77 ins't it designed for "AF" leakage? 78 how (or why) whould "IF" have anything 79 to do with anything.....ignore me 80 I'm being hostile............ 81 ^(overly) 82 Aaron at 11:08 83 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 84 85 I MUST ADMIT THAT I AM HAVING A FEW PROBLEMMS WITH THE AUTOANSWER IDEA. 86 I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT MA BELL HAD SO MANY CHILDREN! I AM STILL SOMEWHAT 87 INCREDULOUS IN BELIEVING THAT MA BELL WOULD FRY MY RELAY AS YOU LEAD ME TO 88 BELIEVE...I ALSO FIND THE FIRST COMMMENT ON THIS DISK SOMEWHAT DISTURBING. 89 I DID NOT JUMP OUT ON A LIMB FOR NO REASON! I TOOK VOLTAGE READINGS MYSELF. 90 I FOUND THESE TO BE STABLE FROM ONE TEST TO ANOTHER (I AM NOT SAYING THAT THESE 91 COULD CHANGE AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER, HOWEVER, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE WHEN I TESTED 92 THEM). I WILL TAKE THE COMMENTS ON DRIVE 'B' SERIOUSLY THOUGH. I AM 93 DISAPPOINTED AT THE USERS OF BWMS FOR SHOOTING DOWN AN IDEA THAT THEY HAVE 94 APPARENTLY NOT TRIED THEMSELVES. I REPORT SUCCESS AND EVERYONE ELSE TELLS ME 95 THAT I SHOULDN'T DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE CURRENTS ON THE LINE. 96 97 TRYING TO CHANGE THE ATMOSPHERE AND BE OPEN MINDED...THE SYSM. 98 99 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* 100 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 101 it's just for your information, 102 sysm,i'm not here to sling mud..... 103 Aaron at 20:57 104 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 105 to SYSM 106 Your measurements are very likely correct, but will depend very much on 107 conditions you probably can't measure, like how much wire is between you 108 and your office. (Just out of curiousity, what office <prefix> are you 109 served by?) What was on the line when you were measuring( phone, impedance 110 of meter, etc)? When you measured the ringing voltage were you dealing with 111 an intra office call( from the same prefix), a local but inter office call, 112 or perhaps a long distance or operator call? Depending on office type, all 113 these may have a different ringing supply (also different will be test calls 114 by telco personnel). Did you measure the DC bias voltage, which is what the 115 actually trips the ring and puts you in talk mode. 116 When you measured the DC voltages, what conditions existed? Open circuit you 117 are measuring the supply used to detect "off hook", or your picking up the 118 handset. Talk supply is different, though it will usually be the same 50 volts, 119 it is filtered better. Toll or operator calls will have a different suplly, 120 as will intra vs. inter office calls (sometimes, it depends on your office.) 121 Not all offices are similar, for example some will reverse the voltage when 122 the person you called answers (it's used for detecting answer for billing 123 toll or metered calls.) 124 Please don't think I am trying to scare you off, if it works go for it, but 125 don't assume what works for you will work for anybody else, or even will 126 work tomorrow. The telephone is a very high technology item, and as such is 127 changing rapidly. You may be making calls over equipment over 50 years old, 128 or you may be among the first to use a new piece of gear on your next call. 129 Just remember who the law (not just the phone company) will hold responsible 130 if anything goes awry. Unfortunately, it is not easy to get correct data on 131 the phone system, as the new stuff is considered proprietary info, and who 132 needs obsolete data? 133 DAA's are not available, from anybody, as the law says that anything connected 134 to the phone system must be FCC registered, as a complete unit. An adapter 135 is not considered complete, and is not acceptable (except when used only by 136 itself). Ma Bell tried to continue to sell them, and was told naughty, naughty. 137 Things that plug into an Apple, and connect to the line run the ragged edge 138 of illegal. 139 140 AS to mapping, it only applies when the same relationships apply to both the 141 first universe, and to the second, or when you are only interested in some 142 subset of relations that meet this critereon. It therefore cannot apply to, 143 say, human relations, because these are not matched by any other system. 144 In fact, all mappings can only be considered as aanalogies, and only with 145 a cetain amount of caution may they be used at all. Usually they are used 146 as a way to simplify something too complex to be handled whole; you map part 147 of it into something you can handle. Mathematical abstractions are not laws 148 of nature, but rather descriptions of same. All we know is an approximation 149 to reality, and if we describe it closely enough we can expect the real 150 world to be about like our guess (call it theory, law, or abstraction, whatever) 151 Oh, mathematics and philosophy are so closely related that separating the two 152 is very hard, and often not possible at all, don't bother to argue the 153 difference, it just ain't there. 154 more on phones: no, Mike, the phone line isn't 600 ohms, it's more like 155 900 or 1200, depending on how you meaure it( frequency, etc), and is going 156 up because the newer smaller wires (cost, you know). Line sre tested with 157 the assumption they are 900, while toll circuits are rated at 600, many older 158 modems were rated at 450 ohms. However, it's not too critical. 159 Auto dialing is simply opening the phone line at 10 times a second enough 160 times for your number, wait 3/4 second between digits. Zero is ten opens. 161 Ideally, you should aim for having the open periods about 60% of the time, 162 or the closed circuit time about 2/3 of the open, but 50-50 works well. 163 Detecting dial tone isn't easy, so just wait a few seconds before your 164 machine starts dialing. 165 A rather more difficult part of direct connect is the question of your out- 166 going signal drowning out the much weaker signal coming in; your telephone 167 contains what is called a hybrid coil so you can hear the other person, byt 168 your own voice doesn't blow your ear off. (It's a special tapped transformer) 169 for modems a resistor network is often enough. 170 Anything that doesn't use a carbon mike has got to be better. 171 ////////////////////////////////////////////BAD\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 172 BAD... I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS: 173 174 1. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY MODEM (SET-UP AS ACOUSTIC OR DIRECT-CONNECT) 175 IT OCCASIONALLY ADDS A BIT OR TWO TO THE INCOMMING DATA. IT CAN'T BE OUTSIDE 176 DISTURBANCES (BECAUSE IT DOES IT WHILE HOOKED DIRECT CONNECT). IT ONLY HAPPENS 177 ABOUT EVERY 200 CHARS. AND WHEN I GET THE PROBLEM, IT PERSISTS FOR ABOUT 5 178 CHARACTERS OR SO (USUALLY NOT ALL GARBLED, BUT MOST IN THE SERIES). I THINK 179 IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PHONE LINE, BUT I DON'T HERE ANY STATIC ON IT. 180 ANY SOLUTIONS???? 181 182 2. AS YOU REQUESTED, MY PREFIX IS 255. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET A RING-BACK 183 ON MY PREFIX BY DIALING 551 AND THE 184 LAST FOUR NUMBERS OF MY PHONE. THEN 185 CLICK THE LINE (HANG UP FOR ABOUT A SECOND), AND THEN HANG-UP. IN GRESHAM (GTE) 186 YOU CAN DIAL 999 AND A COMPUTER WILL TELL YOU THE PHONE NUMBER YOU ARE DIALING 187 FROM. HOW CAN YOU DO THIS ON THE BELL SYSTEM??? 188 189 ALSO, HOW WOULD YOU ELIMINATE RF INTERFERANCE ON THE LINE? MY DIRECT-CONNECT 190 CIRCUIT GENERATES A VERY FAINT BACKGROUND KWJJ. IT WAS A LOT WORSE, AND I GOT 191 RID OF MOST OF IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE ALL OF IT WITH SOME KIND OF 192 FILTER. 193 194 AND...WHAT ARE MA BELL'S PLANS ON OPTOELECTRIC COMMUNICATIONS? (VIDEO? STEREO?) 195 196 I ASKED A MA-BELL SERVICEMAN QUESTION TWO, AND HE WAS VERY EVASIVE...HE 197 ONLY ADMITTED THAT MA-BELL HAD A DEVICE FOR TELLING YOU YOUR OWN NUMBER AFTER 198 I TOLD HIM THAT GTE HAD SUCH A NUMBER. 199 200 THE SYSM. 201 202 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* 203 204 P.S. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL WHILE TYPING IN THE ABOVE MESSAGE... 205 HUMMMMMMMMMM...... 206 207 208 ------------------ 209 210 ---------- 211 I'm looking over, my dead dog Rover 212 That got hit by my lawn mower 213 The first leg is missing, the second leg is gone 214 The third leg is scattered all over the lawn 215 No need explaining, the fourth leg remaining 216 it got chopped up in the blade 217 I'm looking over my dead dog Rover that I overlooked before 218 219 Dr. Demento 220 ---------- 221 David, 222 What's your phone number? 223 224 ______ 225 == TRON == 226 ______ 227 DEMENTO,THROW THE REST OF YOUR DOG 228 IN THE STEW AND ENJOY!!!!!!!!! 229 230 231 232 233 THE UNKNOWN!!!!! 234 235 ********************************************************************** 236 237 That is really gross!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 238 239 ********************************************************************** 240 GROSS IS A UNDER STATEMENT 241 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 242 243 Would somebody please start a good conversation going 244 245 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 246 how bout leaving me a note on PMS sometime,BAD? 247 Aaron on 64 248 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 249 HAVE YOU CALLED PMS LATELY? 250 I WILL LEAVE A MESSAGE ON IT ADDRESSED TO YOU...IT WILL BE PRIVATE. 251 252 THE SYSM.. 253 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 254 conversation starter number 38: 255 What is a "Sysm.." 256 Aaron at uh...? 257 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 258 don't be squeemish, dog meat is good if you are Oriental or hungry enough! 259 *********************************************** * ***************************** 260 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 261 262 ++++++++++++ 263 Is this disk being wasted or what? 264 ++++++++++++ 265 Have you guys heard Rock Lobster, My Balogna, Space Invaders, 266 Yoda or Making Love in a Subaru? Listen to the next Dr. Demento 267 show! 268 269 Dr. Demento! 270 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* 271 TRON--- 272 THE PREVIOUS MESSAGE THAT I LEFT WAS MEANT FOR YOU... 273 274 SYSM STANDS FOR 'SYSTEM MANAGER' AND WAS THE SYSTEM MANAGER USER I.D. FOR 275 THE COMPUTER SYSTEM AT REYNOLDS...SINCE I WAS THE SYSTEM MANAGER (PERSON WHO 276 FIXED ALL THE PROBLEMS AND WROTE OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARE FOR THE SYSTEM) I 277 ADAPTED THE USER I.D., AND AM USING IT AS MY SALUTATION ON BULLETEN BOARD 278 SYSTEMS.... 279 280 THE SYSM...ALLWAYS. 281 282 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* 283 ----- 284 Really Chris you should be ashamed of yourself. 285 286 287 Pioneer 288 ----- 289 UHG! SIX HOURS OF PHONE USE! DID YOU 290 SOAK YOUR FINGERS IN WARM WATER WHEN 291 YOU WERE DONE!? HAPPY TYPING... 292 293 THE SYSM. 294 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* 295 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 296 what kind of system does/did reynolds have ,and what 297 languages do you speak? 298 Aaron 299 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 300 FCC part 68.108 301 Incidence of harm. 302 Should terminal equipment or protective circuitry cause harm to the 303 telephone network, the telephone company shall, where practicable notify the 304 customer that temporary discontinuance of service may be required; however, 305 where prior notice is not practicable, the telephone company may temporarily 306 discontinue service forthwith, if such action is reasonable in the 307 circumstances. In case of such temporary discontinuance, the telephone 308 company shall (a) promptly notify the customer of such temporary 309 discontinuance, (b) afford the customer the opportunity to correct the 310 situation which gave rise to the temporary discontinuance, and (c) inform 311 the customer of his right to bring a complaint to the commission pursuant to 312 the procedures set forth in Subpart E of this part. 313 314 FCC part 68.110 (a) 315 Compatibility of the telephone network terminal equipment. 316 317 (a) Availability of interface information. 318 Technical information concerning interface parameters not specified in this 319 part, including the number of ringers which may be connected to a particular 320 telephone line, which is needed to permit terminal equipment to operate in a 321 manner compatible with telephone company communications facilities, shall be 322 provided by the telephone company upon request. 323 324 FCC part 68.215 325 Installation of other then "fully-protected" premises wiring. 326 327 (g)(4) Requiring the use of protective apparatus. 328 In the event that any of the conditions listed in paragraph (g)(1) of this 329 section, (failure to pass acceptance testing) arises, and is not permanently 330 remedied within a reasonable time period, the telephone company may require 331 the use of protective apparatus which either protects soley against 332 hazardous voltages, or which protects both against hazardous voltages and 333 imbalances. Such apparatus may be furnished either by the telephone company 334 or by the customer. This right is in addition to the telephone company's 335 rights under 68.108 336 337 FCC part 68.308 Deals with the signal power limitations of Registered 338 terminal equipment and REGISTERED PROTECTIVE CIRCUITRY. 339 340 FCC part 68.310 341 Longitudinal balance limitations. 342 343 (e) Registered Protective Circuitry for Loop Start Applications. 344 These criteria shall be met with either terminal of the interface to other 345 equipment connected to earth ground. The interface to other equipment shall 346 be terminated in an impedance which will be reflected to the telephone 347 connection as 600 ohms in the off-hook state of the registered protective 348 circuit, and the interface should not be terminated in the on-hook state. 349 350 351 What does this all mean? 352 353 It means that DAA's (Registered Protective Circuitry) ARE legal for use on 354 telephone lines. It also means that the equipment MUST present an impedance 355 of 600 ohms to the telephone line. 356 357 As to why Ma Bell doesn't supply DAAs any more, it is not because DAAs 358 in general were claimed illegal, but rather that that Ma was told by the FCC 359 that she could NOT require that they be installed unless there was proof 360 that the equipment that was intended to be attached to the line was 361 unregistered. Additionally, ALL new installations of equipment MUST be 362 registered. Since ma never registered her DAAs, they are not approved and 363 she can not install them on her own lines. DAAs do exist, they are being 364 sold by various manufactures, but they are not a moving item because there 365 is little need for them, most equipment being hooked up is registered 366 already, and there is no need for the DAA. If you want a DAA, you might try 367 C&L terminals in Portland, I think they might still have a 368 couple of Multitek DAAs laying around. Alterantly if you want to 'roll your 369 own', you can get a novation Phone Line Interface (PLI) module (from 370 Novation) which is the latest in DAAs. It uses a custom CMOS circuit to do a 371 lot of the work. Ceremtek is also selling a DAA if you prefer. American 372 MicroDevices (AMD) is currently working on a DAA on a chip in their lab which 373 should be out in a couple of years. If you are interested in the Novation 374 device, the number to call is (213)996-xxxx tell them you are interested in 375 the Phone Line Interface Module P/N 490278. It has a FCC registration number 376 of AU 492X-69442-DP-E and a ringer equivalence of 0.8B. The price for the 377 little bugger is $99.00 each. Sorry, I seem to have lost my info on the 378 Ceremtek DAA, so I don't know the number for you to call, But I think the 379 local rep for them is HowMar Enterprises. I'm not sure of this, but it 380 wouldn't hurt to give them a call to find out, besides they might know who 381 does rep Ceremtek if they don't. the number to call for them is 382 (206)659-xxxx. If I remember right, I think the price is about the same as 383 Novation's. 384 P.S. AMD is also working on a 212A on a chip the AM7912. 385 They also are working on a auto call comtrol chip the AM7925. 386 387 You may wonder where I came by all of the above infomation, it is quite 388 simple really, I spent the last two years fighting with Ma Bell and the FCC 389 over the whole modem thing. As such I am VERY familur with the lastest 390 goings on. (My part 68 reg that I pulled the above from is two months old. 391 Which means it is probably obsolete by now, the regs in regard to the 392 telephone business as well as the equipment is changing dayly too.) 393 394 ***** CISTOP MIKEY WITH TOTALY EXHAUSTED FINGERS AFTER THE ABOVE ***** 395 ************** 23 JULY 83 ************ 12:41AM *********************** 396 397 <><><><><><>and all that jazz... 398 mikey please leave here a good time to call you i have your # 399 Aaron at 400 <><><>etc... 401 TRON: THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DISCLOSED OVER THE PHONE LINE IS HIGHLY VOLATILE. 402 VERY FEW PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM UP TO AND I PREFER IT TO STAY THAT WAY. 403 404 I'LL BE BACK SUNDAY (JULY 31) EVENING AS I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU. 405 406 THE SYSM..DAVID GREENMAN..SON OF JASHUA 407 ----- 408 409 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* 03:10:55 AM 23 JUL 83 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* 410 ---------- 411 Ashamed, Pioneer? Why should I be Ashamed? 412 413 ______ 414 == TRON == 415 ------ 416 P.S. Is it about me being on the phone for 6 hours straight? 417 DEAR TRON. 418 THIS IS SABRA THE AMAZON, I MISSED YOUR MESSAGES. I HAVE BEEN AWAY 419 FROM THE TERMINAL FOR A LONG TIME. I WENT TO BANKS, OREGON FOR 3WEEKS 420 WHERE IS BANKS, YOU ASK? IT IS 6 MILES FROM FOREST GROVE. MY BEST FREIND 421 LIVES THERE. IT IS A LITTLE DINKY TOWN. NO MONVIE THEATER, NO BURGER JOINT, 422 ONE STORE, POST OFFICE, BARBER SHOP, AND ONE PAY PHONE. POPULATION 423 480. SO HOW HAVE YOU BEEN? I HAVE BEEN DOING O.K. NOTHING REALLY EXCITING. 424 4TH OF JULY WAS FANTASTIC. SAT IN A WHEAT FEILD AND WATCHED FIREWORKS. 425 DO YOU CONSIDER POLITICS WORTH TALKING ABOUT? I DO. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN 426 TO A HIGH SCHOOL ORGY BEFORE? YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT YOUR 427 SOFTWARE TURNING INTO HARDWARE. I AM NOT A STRANGE PERSON. JUST CURIOUS. 428 429 SABRA, THE AMAZON 430 JULY 23, 1983 431 P.S. 432 NEVER MIND 433 434 TO WHO IT MAY CONCERN, 435 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE SUPERCEDING NUMBER OF THE QWACKING OF 436 ---------- 437 Sabra, 438 Indeed you are curious! No, I haven't been to a High School 439 Orgy before. I am just entering High School this year as a 440 freshman. By meaning software turning to hardware, do you mean 441 like I write a space invaders program, and it becomes the 442 machine? My fourth was good also. I first went over to the 443 Court Club with 2 of my best friends, went to see "RETURN OF 444 THE JEDI" for my second time. Then I lit off bottle rockets and 445 went to the local Corbett fireworks display. 446 I don't strike up political discussions very often, although 447 I have some strong opinions on subjects that I'd rather not 448 disclose on the Inn. Who told you about me and my software? 449 450 ______ 451 == TRON == 452 ------ 453 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 454 it is late......is anyone out there.....im begining to think 455 that there is one other backwater user out there,and he is 456 authoring all the messages,simulating all the personalities,conflicts, 457 thoughts as a big meta statement as to the real condition of the reality; 458 he knows im out here;but this is a reality in itself,it dosent need me 460 to exist,i am merely watching,being swept along... 461 i wonder how long i will watch.............is anything more real, 462 in the end? 463 Aaron 464 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 465 Aha, we're getting into the area of BBS Metaphysics! The key phrase is, 466 "I type, therefore I am." 467 Me. 468 ``````````````````````` 469 <><><><><><><><><><><> 470 typo ergo sum? 471 Aa 472 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 477 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=43434343434=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 478 479 THIS IS CAP....I'M SORRY I'M NOT ABLE TO COME TO THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, 480 BUT IF YOU'LL LEAVE YOUR NAME, NUMBER, TIME CALLED AND A MESSAGE OF ANY 481 LENGTH AT THE CARRIER, I'LL RETURN YOUR MESSAGE AT MY EARLIEST OPPOR- 482 TUNITY. 483 484 THANKS FOR CALLING, 485 486 CAP @ 7/24/83....23:05 487 488 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<OFF 489 EXIT 490 GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 491 492 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 493 it seems that cc n 494 dosent turn off 495 form feeds! 496 Aaron 497 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 498 i wonder what other games people (person) could play with 499 my terminals head...... 500 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 501 you wont believe this,folks,but mikey equip echoes ff as 64 lf's! 502 (just fliped the term to transparent to see what was hapening...) 503 shall we try a few tabs? 504 Aaron 505 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 506 NOTE: YOU CAN SET THE FORM SIZE WITH THE PX COMMAND, ALSO THE EXACT NUMBER 507 OF LINE FEEDS DONE IS DEPENDANT UPON WHEN THE LAST FORM FEED WAS DONE. 508 THE WHOLE THING IS MENT FOR PRINTERS SO THAT WHEN YOU ARE PRINTING 509 OUT HARD COPY IT WILL LINE UP ON FANFOLD PAPER PROPERLY. THE 6 IN THE 510 PX COMMAND IS THE NUMBER OF LINES TO SKIP OVER THE PERFORATIONS. 511 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 512 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() 513 514 MIKE 515 DID YOU HEAR J? 516 JOE EX PURCHASER AT ET. HAS FOUND EMPLOYMENT AT MICRO SOME THING IN 517 HILSBRO . 518 519 MARK G 520 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()())()()((()(()(()()()()(()()()()()()()()(()()()() 521 x 522 | 523 Aaron, I once tried getting the DEAF-TTY info from Ma Bell. It 524 took the customer service person about an hour to find out that 525 I should call repair. It took the guy at repair a couple of days 526 to find out who I should call at Engineering. The guy at Engineering 527 gave me a number for a retired Bell employee who worked with the 528 people who modify the TTYs 529 After all this I lost the number before I got around to 530 calling the person. If you want to try your luck... feel free. 531 I did get one "hard" piece of info. It seems that the 532 "modem" they use uses a tone for "MARK" & NO-TONE for "SPACE"! 533 (No wonder my modem went nuts!) 534 The way things are going, the ONLY reason why they are 535 not using 103 compatible (1-chip) modems is probably that it 536 would cost too much to convert the existing TTYs (if they could 537 FIND all of them!). It would be nice if someone came up with a chip 538 or even a multi-chip unit, that would recognize both protocols. 539 I'm sure that many people with the TTYs would use BBS systems 540 if their equip would allow it. (If I ever get some GOOD info 541 AND if I setup my own BBS, I'll try to have it accessible to 542 DEAF TTY) 543 ___________________________Leonard__________________________ 544 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 545 i suggest we ask mikey,he knows about such things.... 546 mike??? 547 Aaron 548 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< 549 wheres sysm? 550 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>> 551 HELLO EVERYONE! NAME IS DAVE. I'M NEW 552 TO THIS BBS. IN FACT NEW TO ALL BBS. 553 LOOKS LIKE AN INTERESTING COMM. MEDIUM. 554 I'M USING AN APPLE 2+. ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO 555 AN UNIX BASED PDP 11/70 WHICH I'M STILL 556 LEARNING ABOUT. 557 SEE YA ALL LATER! 558 Well now it must be my turn!! 559 after reading all of the information i cant think of anything clever to add. 560 i'll just say HI to all......lou end 561 edit 562 exit 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 help 574 ----- 575 Dave, 576 What's the name of your PDP? Are you sufficiently well versed to com- 577 municate on CBBS? 578 579 580 Pioneer 581 ----- 582 583 HI THERE EVERYBODY. 584 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER LOGE 585 ON TO YOU 586 RE 587 RE 2 588 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE CALLED YOUR SYSTEM. 589 I THINH 590 RE3 591 ITH 592 RE3 593 I THINK IT IS NEAT. 594 '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' 595 Dave, like, what PDP-11 are you on? MReed College? Do you speak UNIX? 596 Andy 597 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''20:36'''''''''''''''''''''''' 598 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 599 LIKE,TOTALY,A TUBULER COMPUTER ,GAG ME WITH A PIPE! 600 BUT SERIOUSLY,WHERE IS THIS PDP? 601 AARON 602 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 603 THERE IS A BETTER BULLETIN SYSTEM AT 646-xxxx IF ANYONE WANT'S TO 604 CHECK IT OUT. I JUST THOUGHT I'D ADD THAT JUICY PIECE OF INFO. 605 ********************************************************** 606 Aaron: "DATA COMMUNICATIONS FOR MICROCOMPUTERS" 607 ******* CISTOP MIKEY ******** 25 JULY 83 ******************* 608 Leonard: The frequency used is 1800 Hz. By the way, I got my info 609 from a guy from Teletype corp. but as with you I have long since lost 610 the number. 611 ******************: CISTOP MIKEY ********* 25 JULY 83 ************ 612 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 613 thanks,i was unable to call... 614 prob will buy it... 615 Aaron at 22:04 616 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 617 618 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 619 Deaf TTY terminals use BAUDOT code (a 5-bit serial code) at 45.5 Baud 620 (60 w.p.m.). A start bit precedes a character, the character is sent with 621 the low bit first, and 2 stop bits follow (MARK). Mark is sent for 1, 622 space for 0. If you have a TTY of this type, >DO NOT< try to connect it to 623 your computer without modifications!! The modem they use has a 60ma 624 current loop, which is probably larger than your equipment can take. 625 )Tuatha( 626 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 627 629