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From: NANA
To: THRUD
Subject: Big K's, etc.
Date & Time: 01/28/91 22:21:38
Message Number 11601
Firstly, you're looking at a brand new key presser. I have the modem set
up at work, so, until I get a computer for home, I can talk only during
the daytime. And, since I am a newcomer, I started reading the messages,
happened upon your unfriendly message. Thought to myself, "Hey, this guy
needs my pleasant personality to cheer up his attitude. Well, if you don
't want to talk I guess I'll look elsewhere...(sob!)
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From: CYBERPUNK
To: ALL
Subject: plugplugplug
Date & Time: 01/29/91 04:43:43
Message Number 11602
Well all, it's PLUG TIME again, me and Thumper One are over at my house
and we are going to try to impress all of you guys, because you all post
the most intelligent messages i've ever seen... so there...
here goooooooooooooes..........
...////The Grimoire\\\\... ...////WarrenPeace\\\\...
813-371-0888 813-378-1328
300..... 1200..... 2400... Baud!!! (both that is)
Sysop:Cyberpunk Sysop:Thumper One
Both running off of the Remote Acess Version 0.04!!!
Both with Multiple Message bases, but WarrenPeace has Files for
leeches (kill 'em!!) The Grimoire Doesn't....
Call 'em both now!! (well not at the same time, kinda be messy)
This has been a Stomp Bunny and Cyber Production. TM 1991
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 01/29/91 05:09:36
Message Number 11603
Umm....I got it from someone on the BBSs. He called up my system,
left a message saying "I'm using a model 100...etc." In fact, he has
a model-200, his model 100 which is as 'souped up' as you can get it,
and the one I got from him. It only has 8k and I really wanna get some
more installed. Bart said it was non-standard ram. Do you know what
kind it uses, where to get it, and how to install it without repeating
the Heathkit episode. It's amazing that two very computer literate
people walked up and started going "Oh wow, neat, lemme see," and a
teacher goes "Radio Shack...nice toy." Hmmpphhh...if my friend, who
wants one now, gets one, we're gonna hook 'em up with a long RS-232
cable and talk in class. "Us? Taking notes. The cable? Umm..shared
ram network, yeah, that's it. Umm...increases the speed too...yeah."
Ask Raven if he still has that acoustic modem he got at the auction. If
he does, I want it.
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From: RUFUS
To: NANA
Subject: Big K's, etc.
Date & Time: 01/29/91 05:17:37
Message Number 11604
Welcome to the BBS. Enjoy it and be sure to look at the BBS list
and snoop around some other local BBSs. (and I won't even mention
Uncle Bob's Alligator Farm & Tofu Museum at 371-3498. That would be
shameless).
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From: TIBERIUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: system
Date & Time: 01/29/91 05:30:48
Message Number 11605
Actually, we were running TurboDos or some derivative thereof. We had a
TeleVideo 816 File server and 5 dumb terminals. I think three 506's (??)
Is that right? Another was a bigger one with two floppies on the side,
and the last was (I think) a TPC 1??? S'been so long I forget a lot of
it. Even had an external 300 baud (fast, eh?) non auto dial auto answer
U.S. Robotics that I used to steal and take home to my TPC 1 and call
around with. That's how I got hooked on BBS'ing. I can remember when
CompuServe wanted $6.00/hr for 300 baud and an OUTRAGEOUS $12/hr for
anything faster!!
We started out with a non-multi-user database called Condor. Every time
one girl went into the same file as another, KA-BOOM!! Shit flew
everywhere and we had to stop and do a backup restore. Then we went to
an 8-bit version of DataFlex, multi-user and all. It was great. That's
when I quit and went on my own programming in DataFlex. They refused to
change my job description to include programmer and pay me a bit more,
so I left. Best move I ever made.
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From: TIBERIUS
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: water
Date & Time: 01/29/91 05:44:22
Message Number 11606
I agree with you. When my friend went and got water, you could taste the
SWEETNESS in it. You don't get that in bottled water today.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TURTLE
Subject: Oil
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:16:11
Message Number 11608
T>...why, I could go on and on.
You already have.
Enough said.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: BLACK MAGIC
Subject: WAR
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:22:21
Message Number 11609
Unfortunately, I have all too many "days". It's the (plain) night that
I'd really like to complain about.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:26:06
Message Number 11610
TI> And I think we are all a little off on the two women. One was T'Pow
and the other D'Pring, just which was which?
T'Pow was the officialiate. (sp?)
D'Pring was Spock's mate.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Vulcan Bastige
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:31:58
Message Number 11611
T1> Tam-Pons Fars...
You /are/ gross! BTW, the word was menstruation.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: BEATLE
Subject: Give Peace agin
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:40:17
Message Number 11612
>Pathetic.
In a small sense, maybe Cindi Lauper.
Ummm, That's Cyndi Lauper.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:43:28
Message Number 11613
TS> What is it with you and hamsters?
NO> Sex.
SS> Do you do gerbil stuffing too?
NO> I plead the fifth ammendment...
Coward. What, you won't come out your closet (cage). Or won't stay out
of the cage. Whatever the case may be.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Give It a Rest
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:51:38
Message Number 11614
Please.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 01/29/91 06:56:27
Message Number 11615
I don't recall...if I saw that :> at the end of his message. I just got
a little annoyed with him. But yes I'm fimiliar with the faces.
But, on the other hand, ROFLSC and TANSTAAFL /are/ new to me.
TS> viscious (sp?)
That doesn't look right....(refers to handy-dandy speller.....
vicious...there she is.
For shame...you can come up with homopervertual, and spell it correctly
but can't spell vicious right.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 07:04:06
Message Number 11616
TS> ..if I were you, I would give a solid "NO."
First of all, you're /not/ him. But that's beside the point.
Obviously, either he can't give a solid "no.", or for some warped reason
he wants us to /think/ he gerbil stuffs.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TURTLE
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 07:12:14
Message Number 11617
T> Seriously, though, you have a real problem with people who express
opinions you don't like, don't you?
Yeah, I think he does. That is, of cousre, if he can't get them to come
to his side. The Specialist is very singly-minded.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TURTLE
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 01/29/91 07:15:08
Message Number 11618
Turtle and Specialist, give it a rest, would ya? God damn, guys, you
have been arguing for days, and haven't gotten anywhere. Drop it.
Shit, if this keeps up, you two will still be arguing when the war's
over.
Neither one of you will give the other the credibly due to the one
another. You're just aimlessly hacking, getting nowhere, solving
nothing, compromising anywhere, and probably aggravating the hell out
of other users.
Stop it.
Play nice.
Good boys.
Please....:)
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: PA
Date & Time: 01/29/91 07:30:26
Message Number 11620
TS> South Carolina
Hey, my brother lives there. He's stationed in Charleston with the Navy.
You know, you should be more careful when slamming states. You bound to
accidently offended someone.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: Big K's, etc.
Date & Time: 01/29/91 07:35:48
Message Number 11621
R> That would be shameless.
It was.
Have a day.
Scott Steel
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/29/91 07:38:41
Message Number 11622
R> It was just a fit of sillyness. I'll stop being silly.
No, don't do that, then you'll have no personality at all.
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From: RUFUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: PA
Date & Time: 01/29/91 10:42:31
Message Number 11623
>You know, you should be more careful when slamming states. You bound
>to accidently offended someone.
Hmm...this sounds amazing like an episode we had with the advisor of the
school paper. She didn't like a cartoon because it may "offend some
lawyers." Imagine if we had seen this scene years ago. "Gee Gary, this
Doonsbery stuff seems to be, well, offensive. We wouldn't want to hurt
anyone."
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From: RUFUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Big K's, etc.
Date & Time: 01/29/91 10:44:41
Message Number 11624
>Have a day.
Isn't that "Have a day and a smile"?
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From: RUFUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/29/91 10:45:25
Message Number 11625
R> It was just a fit of sillyness. I'll stop being silly.
SS> No, don't do that, then you'll have no personality at all.
Ya know, I take that as a slam against me. What I should do with it is
a mystery to me since my brain is in a state somewhere between tapioca
and microwaved sushi.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 11:02:00
Message Number 11626
SS> The Specialist is very singly-minded.
Spelled S-T-U-B-B-O-R-N.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 01/29/91 11:03:18
Message Number 11627
SS>Turtle, and Specialist...blah, blah, blah, blather, blather, grumble
SS>grumble, spthlllllth....
Butt out.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: RUFUS
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/29/91 11:05:47
Message Number 11628
SS>...blah, blah, personality at all!
R>Y'know, I take that as a slam against me.
Yup. Very good. Tomorrow, we'll discuss compliments.
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From: THUMPER 1
To: RUFUS
Subject: Tapes
Date & Time: 01/29/91 11:13:02
Message Number 11629
If you come to PentaCon ][ I will do it there. It will be happening over
spring break! Please Join us!
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From: THUMPER 1
To: THE GRUNT
Subject: Grunt
Date & Time: 01/29/91 11:14:11
Message Number 11630
Hullo Grunt, I have yet to meat you. Welcome if you're new, if your not
Welcome anyway. Nice Ta' meecha'!
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From: THUMPER 1
To: TURTLE
Subject: Why Macho?
Date & Time: 01/29/91 11:15:14
Message Number 11631
Because All Boards need a well rounded flavor to them. You have lots of
the Smart people, and lots 'o the Weird people, All of it "Fun people.
What you don't have is theNice people Who can be Ass's late at night.
Those you don't have, So I fill up that gap. Ok?
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From: THUMPER 1
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: The word...
Date & Time: 01/29/91 11:17:46
Message Number 11632
>...the word is menstruation.
Yes, I know. I hope that post doesn't shame me for ever. It was late
and I was tired and had just watched Rocky I through VI. So I had the
Stallone sickness.
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 12:25:01
Message Number 11633
If they're in the closet/cage, they can't run very far. :)
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 12:26:55
Message Number 11634
SS> Sick-o
I represent that remark :)
I'm not crazy, everybody else is.
I've crossed the line between reality and absurdity so many times that
I've all but rubbed it out.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: DIONYSUS
To: JONBOY
Subject: PC
Date & Time: 01/29/91 12:46:26
Message Number 11635
The reason the public refers to the IBM PC compatibles as 'PCs' is
because IBM clones are actually what the public wants and therefore is
most familiar with. No matter how ignorant or stupid they are - they
know what they want, and popularity sells.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: Big K's, etc.
Date & Time: 01/29/91 13:43:25
Message Number 11636
Isn't that "have a day and a smile"?
No, you're thinking of, "Have a coke and a smile."
But, to satisfy your curiousity, I saw that phrase on a button.
Have a day
. .
.
___
No smile, "Have a good day", nor a frown,"Have a bad day"
Just "Have a day"
Very non-commital, I like it that way.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/29/91 13:50:02
Message Number 11637
R> ...my brain is in a state somewhere..
Like Iowa?
R>between tapoica snd microwaved sushi.
Well, that's obvious, because everyone knows that "sushi" is /raw/ fish
Once you microwave it, it's not sushi anymore. It's nuked fish.
Oh, and one more thing....
Have a day, Rufus. >:) (sneer)
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 13:53:10
Message Number 11638
TS> Spelled S-T-U-B-B-O-R-N.
Yepperdoggies.
Oooops, I shouldn't have said /that/, now I'll never hear the end of it.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 01/29/91 13:55:12
Message Number 11639
TS> Butt out.
No. Drop the issue.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Why Macho?
Date & Time: 01/29/91 13:56:51
Message Number 11640
So I fill up that gap. OK?
Oh, you're supposed to be the "daytime nice person, nighttine ass-type
person.
Am I missing something, or do you just post at night? (Sneer)
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: The word...
Date & Time: 01/29/91 14:00:02
Message Number 11641
T!> Stallone sickness.
Is that where the macho shit came from?
Why would anyone in their right mind watch Rocky I through VI(?)
back-to-back.
Didn't he only make so far?
Back-to-back,
Belly-to-belly,
I don't give a damn,
Cause I've done that already.
Sorry, (mind wanders aimlessly through The Twilight Zone)
"This is the story of a man........named Jed.
Damnit I did it again, that was supposed by an attempt at the typical
opening dialogue of The Twilight Zone. And the mind went drafting
away.
I'm sailing away,
set an open course,
for the virgin sea,
and I've got to be free.
I've got stop doing THIS.
Cause I've gotta have Faith,
I've gotta have Faith,
I've gotta have Fai-Fai-Fai-Faith,
Baby, I know you asking me to stay,
say "please, please,please, don't go away."
Okay, I save this stupidness now, before it's too late.
It's too late,
it's too late,
it's too late,
Baby, it's too late.
Aaaaaaaaaargh.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/29/91 14:11:27
Message Number 11642
NOw> If they're in the closet/cage, they can't run very far. :)
You know, you should have joined our local Animal Torturers Animous.
But maybe it's too late to help you now.
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From: NANA
To: BEATLE
Subject: Star Trek
Date & Time: 01/29/91 22:48:48
Message Number 11643
Hey, I'm new here,; can I join the party? Sure would like to see
some of the Orig. or new S.T. stuff. They're back @ 5PM daily, but
I'm sure I missed some. Let me know...
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From: NANA
To: ENDER
Subject: Cute Bunnies
Date & Time: 01/29/91 22:53:55
Message Number 11644
Does the annex 1 mean that, in a past life he was Thumper 0 ?
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Holy Grail
Date & Time: 01/30/91 00:34:26
Message Number 11645
"What is the air speed velocity of an unlaidened swallow?"
"African or European?"
"I don't know...."
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
H
H
H
H
H
If we keep quoting I'm gonna hafta watch it again...soon!
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: TURTLE
Subject: INTRO SCREEN
Date & Time: 01/30/91 00:37:02
Message Number 11646
Hey, your main intro screen still states:
HOURS FROM 5pm to 9am
.............guess that ain't so true no mo'......(lunch call)
How's it been going lately???? Get a job yet (or at least one you'd
admit to )? :)
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: MS-DOS
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:31:11
Message Number 11647
T>Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen an MS-DOS machine
T>running multiple terminals...
S>Never seen a Novell setup? For shame!
Your pardon, I said I've never seen an MS-DOS machine running
multiple **terminals**. Networking microcomputers is not the same
thing as running several terminals--and several jobs--off of one
microcomputer. MS-DOS is emphatically NOT a multiuser multitasking
operating system, Novell or no. A good rule of thumb: if all your
"terminals" are running an operating system, they aren't terminals.
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:34:24
Message Number 11648
>Why, yes, shall I demonstrate?
By all means.
>Homosexuality is sick, sick, sick. There.
Um...did we suddenly change topics?
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: where
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:35:16
Message Number 11649
>Y'know, I remember when that upgrade for the TRS-80 came out...it
>was for the Model IV, wasn't it?
Yep. Model 4 Monochrome Hi-Resolution Graphics Adaptor thingie
whatsit. There was a color graphics card for the Model 1 that offered
320x200 resolution in 64 colors, but nobody bought it, either.
There was also a (get this!) /vector graphics/ card for the Model I,
like THAT'S supposed to be useful for something...you had to have a
special monitor for it that was more like an oscilloscope than a normal
monitor. Oh boy. I bet there are just...um...well, I bet somebody
somewhere probably wrote a program to use it...
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:38:29
Message Number 11650
>(Which, failing to have all united, strikes me as somewhat of a good
>idea...)
You were saying about my gift for exaggeration?
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From: TURTLE
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: PA
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:40:01
Message Number 11651
>As for Florida, ya just can't beat the climate.
Sure you can. Florida doesn't have seasons, it has weather. The
same thing, day after day, year after year...high in the too-high-to-
be-comfortable zone with a chance of late afternoon rain.
Funny you should mention Loveland Pass in Colorado; I used to live
in CO, and every winter we'd go skiing in the Rockies (Aspen and Vail,
mostly). Well, this one year we were all piled in a VW microbus (me
parents have always had a thing for VW's) and had to get over Loveland
Pass in the middle of a blinding snowstorm...and the only way the bus'd
do it was in reverse. One of my less-than-fond memories of Colorado.
VW's aren't noted for their effective heaters.
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:44:22
Message Number 11652
The RAM in a Model 100 is in this weird bastard plug-in thingie with
its own little battery on board...it uses 8Kx8 pseudo-static RAM
(can you say "about as standard as a circular doorframe"?). You're
pretty much stuck with going through the Rat Shack for more RAM.
The Model 100 is a toy if you're using it as your only computer, but
it's the dandiest thing since sliced bread if you got one at home...you
can take the 100 around with you, use it to write letters or whatever,
then u/l it to the big 'un. The most impressive review I've ever seen
of the 100 was in a Mac User magazine; they said "Forget about trading
your Macintosh in for a Protable Mac, just get a Model 100 and it's the
same thing, basically."
(Oops..."Portable Mac".)
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From: TURTLE
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: system
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:48:38
Message Number 11653
Sounds like you were probably running Televideo 956 terminals (that
ring a bell?). Nice setup, even by today's standards. You know
considering how many multiuser CP/M installations there were every-
where at one time, I'm surprised there aren't any multiuser versions
of MS-DOS...nope, nowadays ya gotta spend more bucks and go network.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Why Macho?
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:51:29
Message Number 11654
T>...theNice people Who can be Ass's late at night.
Oh, yes, we do. Several...just depends on what day you are on.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: The word...
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:54:58
Message Number 11655
Dave. What are you doing. Dave, that hurts. Stop it, Dave. I'm
losing my memory. I can feel it. Dave, we can discuss this. Dave.
Stop. Good morning, Dr. Chanda. I learned a song, it goes,
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do.
I'm a crazy, over the likes of you.
Good morning, Dr. Chandra. I'm ready for my first lesson...
Good morning, Scott Steel.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: Holy Grail
Date & Time: 01/30/91 05:58:40
Message Number 11656
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*>BOOM!<*
....Stumble, Stumble....
"You lucky BASTARD!"
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: MS-DOS
Date & Time: 01/30/91 06:01:43
Message Number 11657
There are Novell networks that run Televideo terminals, too. THEY
don't have thier own operating system...DUDE.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/30/91 06:02:40
Message Number 11658
>>Why, yes, shall I demonstrate?
>By all means.
>>Homosexuality is sick, sick, sick. There.
>Um...did we suddenly change topics.
Well, yes we did. But that had nothing to do with what I said...
accurately speaking, homosexuality is sick, sick, sick. Please
pay attention.
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From: TIBERIUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 01/30/91 06:25:21
Message Number 11659
>T'Pow was the officiate.
>D'Pring was Spock's mate.
Right. Well, now that we've ground that episode into the ground, what
shall we talk about next??
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From: TIBERIUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 01/30/91 06:28:27
Message Number 11660
Homopervertual?? Is that like antidisestablishmentarianism??
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From: TIBERIUS
To: RUFUS
Subject: Big K's, etc.
Date & Time: 01/30/91 06:31:11
Message Number 11661
>>Have a day.
>Isn't that "Have a day and a smile"?
Similar to "It's been real."??
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From: TIBERIUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: system
Date & Time: 01/30/91 06:41:19
Message Number 11662
TeleVideo 956 doesn't really ring a bell. I'm sure the basic ones were
506's or similar. The fancy one was a bit wider with two floppies, one
atop the other, on the right hand side, standing on edge (not laying
down like in a PC). It's been 4 years since I last saw the system.
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From: RUFUS
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/30/91 09:05:00
Message Number 11663
>Yup. Very good. Tomorrow, we'll discuss compliments.
So who'll be teaching it? Surely it won't be you.
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From: RUFUS
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Tapes
Date & Time: 01/30/91 09:05:51
Message Number 11664
You got it. I'll be there. I may even own a CD player by then (if
I get off my arse and find a job). I'll have to bring a lot of blank
tapes.
....if anyone wants my complete
Weird Al collection...
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From: RUFUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/30/91 09:08:12
Message Number 11665
>Have a day...
No, you have a day! No, have two days! Three days. Hell, take the
entire week.
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 01/30/91 09:12:33
Message Number 11666
I stopped at Radio Shack and they don't have the acoustic couplers for
it anymore, but they still have a listing for the Ram. No price, just
the name and catalog number. I'm gonna check down at the Computer
Center on S. 41 and ask them what they've got. I've been writing
letters, notes, and all types of stuff and just modeming it over since
I don't have a null modem cable yet.
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From: TURTLE
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 01/30/91 10:56:58
Message Number 11667
>Turtle and Specialist, give it a rest, will ya? ...etc, etc...
No.
Have a nice day.
(c) 1991 Anarchy Now, Inc.
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 01/30/91 10:58:41
Message Number 11668
SS> The Specialist is very singly-minded.
TS> Spelled S-T-U-B-B-O-R-N.
Uh, I don't think that's the right spelling..."Pig-Headed" is
supposed to start with a "P."
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 01/30/91 10:59:41
Message Number 11669
>Butt out.
The Specialist is on the 20...the 10...and...YES! He spikes Scott
Steel! And Steel is down...
Man, you gotta watch that, Scott. This guy's nasty.
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From: TURTLE
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: INTRO SCREEN
Date & Time: 01/30/91 11:03:27
Message Number 11670
Well, you see, it's like this. The **OFFICIAL** hours are 9pm to 5am;
while we're usually up in the downtime, we aren't always...and in fact
we're sometimes down in the uptime. Is simple, yesno?
Sadly, tragically, unfortunately, I am now working not one but /two/
shit jobs...
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: MS-DOS
Date & Time: 01/30/91 11:05:37
Message Number 11671
There are Novell networks that run Televideo terminals, too.
Yeah, if you're running Unix or Xenix. You seen an MS-DOS system do dat?
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From: ODEN
To: RUFUS
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 01/30/91 11:31:41
Message Number 11672
Hey.... are you looking for an acoustic modem? well, I just so happen
to have one right here.. infact, I can see it now.. anyway, not like its
a new version, but I figure it would work... it came with my teletype-
typewriter ... ( have someone else tell you what that is..) its like uh
13 yrs old.. thats all.. (heh heh) and 'it opperates at HIGH data
transfer rates!' haha..yeah right.. up ta 450 baud... well, I also have
about 900 ft of wire... null modem wire.. and lots of rs-232 connectors
too... and ram chips if ya want em.. oh anyway, you can have some wire
if ya want. with the connectors.. I dont have anything to use it for..
you can pick it out. and if anyone wants the teletype thing.. well,
I'll think about it.. you think they would wanna put it in the musium?
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 01/30/91 14:06:16
Message Number 11674
SS> You know, you should have joined our local animal torturers animous.
But maybe it's too late to help you now.
None of the places I called haveever dealt with problems like mine....
not even the SPCF (a small subsidiary of the SPCA).
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: TURTLE
Subject: work
Date & Time: 01/30/91 14:18:29
Message Number 11675
T> Sadly, tragically, unfortunately, I am working not one but /two/
shit jobs...
Aaaahhh, the perils of poverty and shitty jobs. What kinda work are you
doin'? Are yoiu still working at Mcy D's?
I just got a new job after 2 1/2 weeks of unemployment. It's a shitty
job (dishwasher) but it pays $4.65 an hour. It's one of the easier jobs
I've had.
As for getting some extra $, well, I'm gonna go to one of the local temp
orary labor services on my days off. Theypay the day you work.
Hopefully I'll get back on my financial feeet soon.
Hope things get better for ya.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: RUFUS
To: ODEN
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 01/31/91 05:14:37
Message Number 11678
Does the modem hook up via the RS-232 port? How much ya want for it?
Teletype. How cute. My friend bought one at an auction for like $5 and
his dad said "You bought what? How are we gonna get that home?" It
was big and made lots of noise.
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From: TURTLE
To: ODEN
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 01/31/91 08:13:03
Message Number 11680
You know, I wouldn't mind relieving you of the teletype if you don't
want it...
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: RUFUS
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/31/91 10:01:22
Message Number 11681
>>Yup. Very good. Tomorrow, we'll discuss compliments.
>So who'll be teaching it? Surely it won't be you.
Hey! *I* was't the one who's been slamming you every other message...
don't rag on me!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 01/31/91 10:03:58
Message Number 11682
Yes, very good. Tomorrow, you can work on the word, cow. That starts
with a "C".
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: MS-DOS
Date & Time: 01/31/91 10:05:44
Message Number 11683
TS>There are Novell networks that run Televideo terminals, too.
T>Yeah, if you're running Unix or Xenix. You seen an MS-DOS system do
T>dat?
I said, NOVELL networks that run Televideos. We both know that
Unix or Xenix can run them, but Novell is MS-DOS and runs terminals,
too. MS-DOS, yes, it's a pretty bad Op Sys, but it still can be made
to run other terminals.
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From: ODEN
To: RUFUS
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 01/31/91 10:48:20
Message Number 11684
You want my acustic modem? that is only 300 baud? hmm well, I havent the
slightest if it works.. I've got the manual, and some instructions.. and
yes, I'm sure you could buy it. everything has its price.. but I've
always wanted one.... ohwell. we'll get together sometime and you can
see it. :) my teletype thingie isnt that big, about as big as a
typewriter, and its suppose to work, I would like to use it tho..anyone
wanna try it out for me?
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From: ODEN
To: TURTLE
Subject: teletype
Date & Time: 01/31/91 10:52:03
Message Number 11685
Well, if you want it, UH.. not like I'm useing it, but I thinkk you nee
d to come over an look at all the stuff I have collected.. ha. not that
much.. lesse... one 1990 19.2Kbaud terminal that works, a 83 one that I
have no idea what it works at, or if it does (it goes on!) about 4
keyboards that go to some ADDS terminals... a whole bunch of wire.. like
rs-232 stuff, and dem connectors too... two IBM powerpack thingies,
and a ramboard off an IBM too.. about 2.5 megs I would guess... and the
teletype thingie.. (with paper!) [you want to pay lots and lots of money
for all this stuff.... -played backwards-] .... and a Zenith trans-ocean
anic royal 1000 shortwave radio........ anyone know anything usefull
about any of this stuff?!
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: ODEN
Subject: shortwave radio
Date & Time: 01/31/91 12:27:52
Message Number 11686
You oughtta get the shortwave radio running.... ya could listen in on
the middle east stuff possibly.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: RUFUS
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/01/91 06:02:54
Message Number 11687
This was the person who said one message ago "I'm not the one
slamming..." Of course, I suppose I'll now hear "butt out."
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From: RUFUS
To: ODEN
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 02/01/91 06:05:00
Message Number 11688
Does the acoustic hook up to the rs-232 port? I'm not sure on tele-type
communications, but I assume it
would work like any other modem. If you have two lines just hook your
computer up on one line and the tele-type on the other.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: RUFUS
Subject: Model 100
Date & Time: 02/01/91 09:40:51
Message Number 11689
>Now all I need is to get Raven's acoustic modem and I'll be all set
>for BBS fun at the local 7-11.
Hee hee hee! naaah. Get a REAL computer. Remember the Sharp EL-500's?
/Dragonfly/
I'm back!
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/01/91 09:47:54
Message Number 11690
>All your noise that your protesting makes isn't gonna do diddly squat
>for the govnt's opinion, so might as well stop bothering people.
Really? (Very interested look on Dragonfly's face.) You mean the
Congressmen and Senators aren't nearly paranoid about staying in office?
Let's face it -- the declaration of war only barely passed the
Senate. (I think it was by five votes, at least three of which were
uncertain.) If there had been more protesting before the war, it would
never have been declared.
Senators are paranoid about bad press, and will unusually vote with
what they think their population would like. The more protestors stir up
BEFORE a vote, the more likely their voices will be heard.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 02/01/91 10:03:30
Message Number 11691
S>Did I mention my gift for accurate speaking?
T>No. Do you have one?
S>Why, yes, shall I demonstrate? Homosexuality is sick, sick, sick.
S>There.
Defend your premise.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: NANA
Subject: Big K's, etc.
Date & Time: 02/01/91 10:08:03
Message Number 11692
Why, hello, Nana! mAnd welcome to this board! We always need new,
cheerful faces to perk this board up!
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/01/91 10:14:07
Message Number 11693
SS>Yeperdoggies.
SS> Oooops, I shouldn't have said /that/, now I'll never hear the end
SS> of it.
Do you realize the phrase 'Yepperdoggies' is an ethnic slur against
all halfbred Lithuanians/ Argyles? That in their native tongue, it
represents a horrid phrase that can only be barely translated into
the English phrase 'fishmonger'? Not only that, but do you realize that
the mere mention on that phrase has doomed the seventh son of your
seventh son to fail Calculus? (The latter is due to an old Huayatl
curse, on loan to the Argyles.) Indeed, sir, not only have you not
heard the end of it... you ma not have heard the beginning of it.
c In Bob's name, /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 02/01/91 10:22:23
Message Number 11694
T>Well, now that we've ground that episode into the ground, what
T>shall we talk about next?
" 'The time has come,' the Walrus said,
'To talk of many things:
Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing-wax --
Of cabbages -- and kings --
And why the sea is boiling hot --
And whether pigs have wings.' "
/Dragonfly/
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From: BEATLE
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: Holy Grail
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:27:44
Message Number 11695
> Great flick!!!!!
Yeah, it was cool. Finally saw it...
"Camelot!
"Camelot!"
"It's only a model..."
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Give Peace agin
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:30:51
Message Number 11696
> you trying to tell me that the song was fascinating or interesting?
Yeah, in a manner of speaking. It wasn't "fascinating", but it was a
bit interesting. It's not one of my favorite all time songs or anything.
And to automatically assume that everyone who participated in that
recording was in it for money, it's just as much Bullshit as you accused
me of. You don't even know IF some of them got payed.
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: War Pigs
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:33:12
Message Number 11697
B>...you must admit it's unique.
> I'll admit it's perverted.
Who cares. (Hey, your point in the last message!)
> Can you be a bit more specific?
Not really. Stupid comment, product of a bad mood.
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:35:21
Message Number 11698
> Changed pronouns there, Beatle.
I don't care at the moment. Gee, I ask a simple question, and you
avoid it. Quite a nice hypocritical way to work. Don't get it?? I've
seen you accuse Turtle of missing the point MANY times. Answer the damn
question. What music DO you like?
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Earth stuff
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:38:18
Message Number 11699
> You susre you are addressing your mail to the correct individual?
I didn't address it. The software did, sorry if its confusing. It
automatically addressed it to you when I hit "R". But didn't you post
that joke ("E.T. The Extra Testicle") the first time it appeared?
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:40:25
Message Number 11700
> Perhaps you could suggest something for me to sample?
Well, I heard a bit of Metallica that wasn't half bad, and I wouldn't
know who does any of the other stuff I heard. When the guitarists at
Pentacon started playing it, it was quite good. Real interesting. BTW, I
heard some Faith No More that sounded good (just thought of that)...
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Give Peace agin
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:42:44
Message Number 11701
> Say, how come you aint on the Storyboards?
My creativity level is somewhat mediocre. Not to mention I have a lot
of regular messages to keep up with (hundreds on Armadillo Connection)
and I have no time to keep up with a storyboard. I don't do them well,
either.
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Holy Grail
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:45:20
Message Number 11702
"What do you burn instead of witches?"
"More witches!!"
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:49:32
Message Number 11703
Since you both know something about Vietnam, then help me out. I just
have the general fact that the people of this country considered the war
wrong, and protested a whole lot. Now, I have no facts to truly decide
wether the war was good or bad. From what I heard, we couldn't have
"won" it or "lost" it, but my history teacher claims we should have
stayed there and we would have won. Evidently, I'd like to get these
ideas cleared up in my head. (And asking Turtle AND the Specialist
should provide a nice differing set of facts or opinions)
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:53:20
Message Number 11704
Who says someone can exaggerate your opinion when you think it /is/ a
good idea? Why argue about it if you do believe it.
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From: BEATLE
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Give Peace agin
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:57:00
Message Number 11705
> Ummm, That's Cyndi Lauper.
I asked for that, didn't I? :)
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From: BEATLE
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 02/01/91 11:58:49
Message Number 11706
> ...aggravating the hell out of toher users.
Oh, I don't think so. I love watching the two of them dance around the
issue with comments about each other's state of replying.
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From: BEATLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: PA
Date & Time: 02/01/91 12:00:22
Message Number 11707
> school paper... it may "offend some lawyers..."
Yeah, a school newspaper will offend a lawyer. How many lawyers are on
campus? Not putting down your anecdote, just adding to the stupidity of
the person who made the comment.
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From: BEATLE
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: The word...
Date & Time: 02/01/91 12:02:50
Message Number 11708
> It was late and I was tired and had just watched Rocky I through VI.
Two problems with that. That's taking something to an extreme (altough
I have no objection to watching all three Back to the Future films back
to back :))... and second, there ISN'T a Rocky VI.
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From: BEATLE
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: The word...
Date & Time: 02/01/91 12:05:56
Message Number 11709
Think getting those songs out of your head is weird? Try "Istanbul,
Not Constantinople" and "Particle Man" both by They Might Be Giants. The
producers of Tiny Toon Adventures were nice enough to include these in
the last new episode since Mid-December.
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: MS-DOS
Date & Time: 02/01/91 15:54:20
Message Number 11710
>MS-DOS, yes, it's a pretty bad Op Sys, but it still can be made to
>run other terminals.
Two questions: How much extra hardware are we talking here, and when
you hang the terminals off of this thing, do you end up with one
/processor/ controlling multiple /jobs/? Is it actually a multiuser,
multitasking system? I have yet to see such a thing--my experience
with Novell networks is limited to a job I did once setting up a
fairly lame AutoCAD network.
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From: TURTLE
To: ODEN
Subject: teletype
Date & Time: 02/01/91 15:57:10
Message Number 11711
>...and a ramboard off an IBM too..
Hey! I've been looking for an IBM RAM expansion card (XT bus) for a
while now! If it's XT I'm interested.
>...about 2.5 megs I would guess...
I would be very surprised if it were more than 640K, actually. The
IBM expansion bus is too slow for very large memory cards--you end up
having so much trouble getting the refresh signals out there to the
RAM that you have to throw in a gadzillion wait states for it to
work. That's why most upper-end IBM machines use SIMMs these days
...they've almost evolved a separate memory bus.
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/01/91 16:03:25
Message Number 11712
Ugh. Turtle isn't even sure he WANTS to get into the whole Viet Nam
thing right now...he'll sit back and let the Specialist field this one,
and bash him as appropriate. *Sigh* And my head hurts, too.
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: PA
Date & Time: 02/01/91 16:04:43
Message Number 11713
School newspapers don't offend lawyers, they give them crusades. Look
how many lawyers jumped on the conservative bandwagon to stop the
insiduous spread of evil as represented in a school paper a while ago
that had the gall to run an article on birth control...THAT issue
made it to the Supreme Court, where the highest justices in the land
solemnly declared that freedom of speech doesn't apply on school
grounds and that the content of a school paper may be arbitrarily
censored by school officials for any reason whatever. Oh boy.
Thanks for striking that blow for decency, morality, and a police
state for all, guys.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: BEATLE
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/02/91 03:38:45
Message Number 11714
>Now, I have no facts to truly decide wether the war was good or bad.
How can you decide if ANY war is 'good' or 'bad'? Is a war 'good'
is our side is winning? If we're involved? What justifies a war?
Personally, I feel no facts will ever make a war 'good' or 'bad.'
The morality of a war is subjective; facts are objective. For example,
was the Civil War 'good' or 'bad'?
> From what I heard, we couldn't have "won" it or "lost" it, but my
> history teacher claims we should have stayed there in the first place
> and we would have won.
"Winning" and "losing" a war, on the other hand is NOT subjective.
If the country that goes to war achieves the objectives it set out
BEFORE the war, it has won. If it doesn't, it lost. Simple, no?
Our objectives in Vietnam were to prevent the Communists from
taking over all of Vietnam. Question: did we win or lose the war?
Any comments from y'all?
/Dragonfly/
By the way, winning or losing a war has no relevence to the morality
of the war, of course. Don't confuse the two issues.
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From: TIBERIUS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 02/02/91 04:37:25
Message Number 11715
> Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing-wax --
Okay! I pick sealing wax. Did'ja ever notice that most kids will take
the sealing wax from home-made jelly jars and have more of a ball with
it for a day than with a real jelly sandwich??
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From: BEATLE
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: Holy Grail
Date & Time: 02/02/91 11:33:43
Message Number 11716
> If we keep quoting I'm gonna hafta watch it again...soon!
Like that's a /bad/ thing?
"I am your king!"
"Well, I didn't vote for you!"
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From: BEATLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Tapes
Date & Time: 02/02/91 11:38:57
Message Number 11717
> I may even own a CD player by then...
And then you can listen to "The Disney Afternoon CD"!!
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: INTRO SCREEN
Date & Time: 02/02/91 11:40:37
Message Number 11718
> I am now working not one but /two/ shit jobs...
Why can't you find better jobs?
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From: BEATLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/02/91 11:44:47
Message Number 11719
> I suppose I'll now hear "butt out."
Yeah, of course, since Turtle has droppednot folowed the first rule of
debating (attack the issue, not the person), you don't know what's gonna
happen.
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From: BEATLE
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/02/91 11:53:27
Message Number 11720
> Don't confuse the two issues.
Didn't plan to. Didn't try. Anyway, it was just something that came
into my head, and I wanted an answerSince I don't know much about the
events of Vietnam, I can't really make many conclusions from your
message... thanks for the try, tho...
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 02/02/91 15:44:09
Message Number 11721
I stumped you on some trivia> I guess that makes it your turn.
Here's one for you. What's Chekov's first name?
(And, yes, spelling counts)
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 02/02/91 15:45:54
Message Number 11722
T> Homopertvual?? Is that like antidisestablishmentatianism??
In a word, no. But ask the Specialist what the definition is.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 02/02/91 15:48:17
Message Number 11723
R> No, you have a day! No, have two days! Three days! Hell, take the
entire week.
Awww, geeesh, what a guy, he give me a whole week.
To do what? May I ask?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TURTLE
Subject: T> Uh, I don't
Date & Time: 02/02/91 15:51:00
Message Number 11724
T> Uh, I don't think that's the right spelling..."Pig-headed" is
T> Supposed to start with a "P".
Score one for Turtle.
Sorry, I'm doing the cheering thing again.
I guess, I'm not really in the mood to pick fights.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TURTLE
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 02/02/91 15:56:06
Message Number 11725
T> Man, you gotta watch that, Scott. This guy's nasty.
NO, just single-minded, pig-headed, stubborn, arrogant, obnoxious,
opinionated, and in general very difficult to get along with.
Did I leave anything out?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 02/02/91 15:59:28
Message Number 11726
None of the places I called have ever dealt....stupid shit...more
stupid shit...
You know, you're truly sick.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: work
Date & Time: 02/02/91 16:01:16
Message Number 11727
You have a job as a dish-pig, huh. Sounds like fun.
Turtle, are you still working at McDumps?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 02/02/91 16:02:48
Message Number 11728
TS> Hey! *I* wasn't the one who's been slamming you every other message.
don't rag on me!
What's the matter, specialist? You don't like being attacked unprovoked?
I mean,/you/ do it all the time.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Yepperdoggies.
Date & Time: 02/02/91 16:08:22
Message Number 11729
DF> Do you realize...repesents a horrid phase...bullshit...incredibly
shit garbage....
That's the most ridicolous thing I've ever heard.
Don't you ever have anything useful to say?
And no, none of my kids (if I ever have any) will fail Calculus.
Besides, I'm not planning on having seven sons in the first place.
Have a useful reply to this one, too?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: BEATLE
Subject: Give Peace agin
Date & Time: 02/02/91 16:16:34
Message Number 11730
SS> Ummm, That Cyndi Lauper.
b> I asked for that, didn't I?
You sure did.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: BEATLE
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 02/02/91 16:18:09
Message Number 11731
B> I love watching the two of them dance around the issue...
We, if is wasn't Turtle's bbs I'd suggest calling ahalt to the whole
thing. That's what I would do. But, again, it's not my bbs.
Personally, I think it's a waste of disk space.
But, to each his own.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 02/03/91 00:19:15
Message Number 11733
T> Did'ja ever notice that most kids will take the sealing wax from
T> home-made jelly jars and have more of a ball with it for a day than
T> with a real jelly sandwich??
Of course. When you throw a real jelly sandwich against the wall, it
doesn't bounce back. Nobody has ever played marbles with real jelly
sandwiches. Jelly sandwiches squish when you toss them from hand to
hand. They don't float as well as sealing wax, either.
Even still, jelly sandwiches are much more fun to stuff down a
friend's back. And they're much more fun to toss at low-flying heli-
copters.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 02/03/91 00:25:53
Message Number 11734
SS> What's Chekov's first name?
I'll hazard a guess. Popol?
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 02/03/91 00:27:02
Message Number 11735
SS> No, just single-minded, pig-headed, subbord, arrogant, obnoxious,
SS> opinionated, and in general very difficult to get along with.
SS> Did I leave anything out?
Yes. Intelligent. Even though I firmly disagree with some of the
positions of the Specialist, he's an intelligent person.
Militaristic. By that I mean, "thinking in a military manner." In
many ways, he's the person who would best understand the ideas of
the military mind in our war against Iraq.
Succint. His messages clearly state his points.
As soon as I think of more, I'll write 'em.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Yepperdoggies.
Date & Time: 02/03/91 00:37:19
Message Number 11736
SS> That's the most ridicolous thing I've ever heard.
Thank you. That was its point.
SS> Don't you ever have anything useful to say?
Yes.
SS> And no, none of my kids (if I ever have any) will fail Calculus.
What I'd like to know: How do you know that?
SS> Besides, I'm not planning on having seven sons in the first place.
The prophecy says nothing about your planning to have seven sons.
It merely prophecizes about the seventh son of your seventh son.
SS> Have a useful reply to this one, too?
No. Have a nice day.
/Dragonfly/
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From: MAX
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:07:32
Message Number 11737
> By not supporting the war effort, you are hindering the soldier, and
> helping Hussein. The Us Govnt is going to continue to fight, and if
> Hussein thinks that he can wear us down, he will continu to fight
> longer...and your protesting is what is giving him that hope!
Hussein will continue to fight regardless of protests, or lack thereof,
in the United States. You are right: what Hussein is banking on is
that the American public's opinion will grow so strongly anti-war that
the government will be forced to withdraw for political reasons, whether
or not the goal has been achieved.
This point granted, it is not sufficient reason for me to SUPPORT the
"war effort." Look, bub, I have friends over there, and quite frankly,
I don't think this conflict is worth them dying over. The soldiers who
have died there have NOT died for THEIR country. They have died because
their government finds this war politically convenient.
Incidentally, "my protesting is what is giving him that hope!"? The
only "protesting" I have done has been to question our country's
motivations. Hussein has seemed genuinely surprised in past interviews
that Americans are ALLOWED to question their government. I *do*
support our soldiers, but if I wasn't allowed to be less than supportive
of their Commander In Chief's reasons for sending them there, then
there wouldn't be a reason for them to fight in ANY war.
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From: MAX
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Rationality
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:15:47
Message Number 11738
> Interesting how you believe a message is valid regardless of the
> source when it simply states what you already believe.
The converse of that statement would be to believe a message is valid
when it comes from a particular source, regardless of its content.
Personally, I prefer Turtle's way.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: ODEN
Subject: teletype
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:36:56
Message Number 11739
O>...and a ramboard off an IBM too...
What kind of ramboard, for what kind of IBM?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: RUFUS
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:39:02
Message Number 11740
I wasn't slamming you, Rufus...what the hell has got into you??!!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:40:23
Message Number 11741
I was referring to the present tense. Don't try to cloud the issue
with irrelavant bull about how the thing passed by whatever amount
of votes...
because now the war is on, we're kickin' ass, and the protesting is
not gonna stop the war or do anything but show a lot of people that a
few vocal war-protesters can really make asses of themselves.
Silly damn idea, anyway...protest a popular war.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: hamsters
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:43:51
Message Number 11742
S>Did I mention...
T>No. Do you...
S>Yes. [Gaggots] are sick, sick, sick.
S>There.
DF>Defend your premise.
No. I don't need to. Simple fact. Very, VERY SICK individuals.
So shut up and butt out.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: BEATLE
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:47:39
Message Number 11743
I really don't know how to describe what kind of music I like, it's
a real mish-mash...how about if I list some bands and some songs I like?
YES - Roundabout, Changes, Cinema, most of thier old stuff..
HEART - All of thier old stuff, some of thier new stuff, less of recent
RUSH - A great majority, a few too hard.
STYX - Some of there newer stuff...
CHICAGO - Almost all
James Taylor - Almost all
Billy Joel - Almost all
QUEENSRYCHE - Some of thier newer stuff, most of "MindCrime"
METALLICA - A select few...
DIO - "The Mob Rules"
LED ZEPPLIN - Only thier classic stuff.
PINK FLOYD - Same as above....
Crosby, Stills, Nash - Some of 'em.
I hate George Michael, Debbie Gibson, Rick Ashley, or any other of those
"too pop-py" bopper type artists.
...answer your question?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: BEATLE
Subject: Earth stuff
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:57:19
Message Number 11744
B> E.T. The Extra Testicle...
No, I don't think I posted anything like that.... Heh, heh. Kinda
funny, though.
...Would the individual who posted that please come forward?
....20 bucks says it was SNAKEBYTE....SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: BEATLE
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 02/03/91 06:59:01
Message Number 11745
Actually, some of Faith No More is audible. (Can be listened to.)
Ok, ya got me...I like some of thier stuff...but only what I've heard
on the radio. Kinda rubbs off on you after a while.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: BEATLE
Subject: Holy Grail
Date & Time: 02/03/91 07:00:38
Message Number 11746
"You've got two 'alves of cocoanuts, and your bangin' 'em tuhgetha!"
"So, go away, you silly Knnnnnnniggets!" SPppppppth!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: BEATLE
Subject: protesters
Date & Time: 02/03/91 07:02:40
Message Number 11747
Ok, this is what I know about Viet Nam:
Originally, that part of Asia was called Indo-China. When they kicked
the French out, it broke up into the individual countries. The country
that was Viet Nam contacted the US and asked for some assistance setting
up a government, so we set up a govnt in South Vietnam. (Not a US run
government, exactly, but a puppet type deal with one of them in office.)
Obviously, there were resources there that we could use, like rubber, an
a few others, I forget. So we had "intrests" in the region. Now, North
Vietnam was communist and turned on South Vietnam, which promply cried
to the US. So, we sent "military advisors" over there, and then troops,
and then MORE troops.
Now, back home, Johnson was instituting a plan for "social overhaul"
which supposedly was supposed to solve all of the problems for "under-
priveledged" peoples (poor folk). Now, this all came right after the
"Civil rights" movement, when blacks demanded to be treated as equal
citizens, and got it. Well, that movement still had a lot of momentum.
At the same time, the draft was on, to get more troops for Vietnam.
There were ways you could get around the draft, and the people who could
afford it, did. How? By going to college. Black people, who were
poor, got drafted more often than whites, because no money=no colledge.
No college=free trip to Vietnam. So, the blacks were understandably
pissed. The few draft dodgers who could afford college stirred up
public resentment by protesting the war from thier sanctuarys. So what
you got, was blacks rallying against the war (because they were going
the most), college people rallying against the war (because they didn't
want to go), and also college professors, who conspired across the
country to stir up other campuses.
Now, local law enforcement athorities (who mostly came from blue
collar families), thought of the protesters simply as "hippies" and
(Continued next message)
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: (Part II)
Date & Time: 02/03/91 07:31:02
Message Number 11748
(Get ready with that Crtl-S...<enter> to continue)
"Pinkos" (kinda like that term) and tried to handle the first protesters
with "strong-arm" tactics...excruciatingly stupid social blunder. Thier
crude methods of "protest control" not only did not *stop* the protests,
it created *MORE* protesters, because the ones who were indeciscive
decided to side with the Anti-War movement after watching the brutal
"Riot Control" methods the police used. (So, you see, not everyone was
against the war; some were just radicals who wanted thier "right" to
protest...and this was as good a cause as any....)
So by the time 1968 rolled around, Johnson was in a world of shit...
both domestically and on foriegn shores. We were getting our asses
kicked in Viet Nam, because of the stupid policy of "matching forces",
and at home there was real trouble. The nation was rapidly separating
into Peace, man... vs. Kill the Commies! (tm). His "Help the Poor"
and supporting the war was tearing the hell out of his budget (couldn
afford both). Gen Westmooreland was lying through his teeth, the media
was telling on him every night on the six o'clock news. Johnson didn't
want to pull out of Viet Nam because there were a lot of dead men
already...and if he had pulled out without winning, then there would be
hell to pay, and besides...General Westmooreland says we're winning....
Election time...so what did Johnson do? That f***er bailed out!
"I will not seek, nor will I accept, the nomination of my party..."
So now Nixon takes over...oh, right. That's better. Nixon orders the
bombing in Cambodia, to stop the war...? Sends 1,000's more to thier
deaths...and finally realized the truth. We've lost in Viet Nam, we
dicked around until it was too late. Time to go home.
Ok. Your teacher was right, Viet Nam *could have been* a "winnable"
war, ie, we could have accomplished the mission, to eliminate the
(continued)
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: (Part III
Date & Time: 02/03/91 07:51:51
Message Number 11749
(ready?)
advance of Communism (which all the military advisors thought was going
to happen; the stupid Domino Theory, which went like: One country falls,
then another country falls, and so on. (...and he told to friends, and
he told two, and so on...)) (gee, aren't nested parentheses fun?).
Meaning, that if we'd gone in full force, as if it were a war, then we
could have defeated the Viet Cong. Until they came out of hiding in
Cambodia.
But we didn't go in full force, it was a police action, which means
following the Rules Of Engagement. Match force with force.
Why did we do that? Well, people were concerned about the political
ramifications of declaring war on NVM. We were concerned about what
the USSR might think. Besides, really, that was supposed to be a
civil war. We should have stopped with military advisors....
I think that you will find that opinion colors a lot of what people
say about the Viet Nam "conflict".
My point was this: Not all people who were protesting originally were
concerned about why we were there. They couldn't have cared less, they
simply didn't want to go, theelves. Then the blacks added thier
momentum from thier Civil Rights movement, and the Anti-War Movement
got stronger. Then the police created all kinds of new protesters. So
by that time, it was really out of control, snowballing. Nixon really
screwed up, when he "called on all the patriotic Americans out there
who support this war...the Silent Majority..." All he did was polarize
a nation between Yes war and No war.
And then there was Woodstock. What was the goal of Woodstock? To
promote peace. Can you think of a more *popular* event in the last
50 years? So Anti-War became popular. And the rest is history...
Turtle? Care to clarify or dispute? I realize that this was sort of a
slanted summation...but it was accurate, historically, as far as I can
remember. I may have left out a few points that I didn't think of....
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: MS-DOS
Date & Time: 02/03/91 08:06:58
Message Number 11750
T>How much extra hardware are we talking here, and when you hang the
T>terminals off this thing, doyouend up with one /processor/ controlling
T>multiple /jobs/? Is it actually a mulituser, multitasking system?
Well, the terminals in question have to have special ROMs and cards
to interface to Ethernet or whatever LAN system you use. The main
computer *is* the *only* processor to handle the jobs, and the software
is the multitasker. It works rather well, or if you don't believe me,
ask King Lighting in Sarasota...they have a network similar to the one
I have described. I understand that all the main has to have is
the software and the LAN card. 'Cept you have to have a powerfull
processor, like a 286 or a 386. (Relatively powerful.) And, of course,
disk storage space for workspace swapping.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: teletype
Date & Time: 02/03/91 08:13:05
Message Number 11751
If you want an XT memory expansion board, then I can get one for you.
Up to two megs, using 41256 chips.
Interesting point on how most newer machines use SIMMs...I never thought
of it that way. Though, EPSON uses surface mount and many SM memory
chips right on the board for the main memory, and then uses a pullout
board on its own bus, with up to 16 slots for SIMMs.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: War win/loose
Date & Time: 02/03/91 08:17:01
Message Number 11752
Rather than repeat all you said, I'll paraphrase.
Wining a war or loosing a war...objective.
Good war or bad war...subjective.
Simply put, well spoken. Have you taken lessons from Turtle?
Y'know, a history teacher of mine put it this way: If Hitler had
won his war, then we would all think that what he did was right. The
winning side writes the history.
So, any wonder why my history books had not one page on Viet Nam?
Who won the Viet Name conflict? Echo answers mournfully....
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: trivia
Date & Time: 02/03/91 08:21:33
Message Number 11753
Pavel. Pavel Chekov.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Give it a Rest
Date & Time: 02/03/91 08:22:18
Message Number 11754
SS>No, just single-minded, pig-headed, stubborn, arrogant, obnoxious,
SS>opinionated, and in general very difficult to get along with.