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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: RufusCon
Date & Time: 12/27/90 18:11:07
Message Number 11001
> WatermellonCantaloupeWatermellonCanteloupeWatermelloCantaloupe...
>
> PIZZA.
And my response (as liked by Max): "I like that quote, it has a lot of
food."
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From: OPUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: hey!
Date & Time: 12/27/90 20:15:48
Message Number 11005
Well it'll be Multi-Node.....(It'll only be able to handle 4 nodes
though....).. It won't be Fido-Bet.. there is a bulletin board system
out there called WWIV that is VERY popular.. there are over 17 of that
type of board in the WWIV net in the 813 ac. The way it works is when
you goto logon if you input -@!NETWORK!@- as your name it'll run the net
program...blah, blha blha.. no fronbt end is required.. and this is a
very popular system.. there are over a few thousend around...(the
including ones in Mexico, Germany, and Austraia..(those are the only
other countries that *I've* sent mail to.. anyway it is a good system
and that is how I think I'm gonna set it up..... But right now with
the release of Turbo Pascal 6.0 and Turbo Vision it has been delayed
so I can work on ym Multi-tasking windows program.. hopefully to be done
soon.. BETA copies are on Suncaost City if interested.
Opus!
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From: JONBOY
To: DIONYSUS
Subject: You bet he does
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:22:42
Message Number 11008
I mean, their popularity has to say something for them...
Nope - their popularity has something to say about the general level
of techical savvy of the average businessman who is awed and impressed
by those majic three letters... The original IBM PC (I refuse to
call the damned thing simply a "PC" as if it were the delineating
factor for all such machines!) was as sorry a pseudo-doorstop as
was ever foisted on an unsuspecting public.
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From: JONBOY
To: TURTLE
Subject: bash 'em
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:27:12
Message Number 11009
or never used another computer more sophisticated than a C=64.
Now Turtle - let's not let the Z-system bias color your world too
much - bigotry in any form is a less-than-desirable trait in an
otherwise noble shelled beast.
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From: JONBOY
To: DIONYSUS
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:32:44
Message Number 11010
So what's wrong with incestuous sex? That's what brothels are for.
!!! Wahahahahahahahaha!!! <snif*> I'm sorry - the title of the
message - the subsequent contents - they all add up so imperfectly I
just burst out. I'll try to subdue my mirth in the future - but please,
try not to give me such a wonderful excuse to berate the level of
literacy in our society.
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From: JONBOY
To: ALL
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:43:38
Message Number 11011
Sorry for tyhe outdated posts - I just forgot myself - I've been a busy
boy and all the last few months and have missed you folks. I should
be finishing up here soon so I can relax on the BBS's more often
JonBoy
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From: TURTLE
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Addictions.
Date & Time: 12/29/90 00:29:46
Message Number 11013
>Like in a sexual way. You,re disgusting.
Hey, YOU thought of it! Do you always think of sex when someone mentions
cat addiction?
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 12/29/90 00:31:09
Message Number 11014
So when ya gonna put the nitro pack in there, hmm? If yer gonna put
a six-pack on, ya might as well go all the way! And just THINK of
the shit you could dump in the air while you're at it...
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From: TURTLE
To: OPUS
Subject: hey!
Date & Time: 12/30/90 16:16:24
Message Number 11017
As a caveat, I would strongly recommend doing a FIDO capable system
over a WWIV-capable one. For starters, FIDO is larger than WWIV by
an order of magnitude, and there are more echoes on more topics
for FIDO and FIDO-like networks (of which there are probably over a
hundred, each of which uses FIDO software and transfer protocols). If
you are planning to release or market your program, if it supports
WWIV but not FIDO you will, I fear, find MUCH less demand for it.
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From: TURTLE
To: JONBOY
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 12/30/90 16:21:59
Message Number 11019
Hey, like, welcome back...and I'm glad to see your sense of humor
is still intact.
Speaking of which, I was awakened this morning by a pair of Jehovah's
Witlesses who came by at a Godawful early time, so I had 'em for
breakfast...yum yum. Delicious, nutritious, and soo wholesome. It's
kind of too bad they have to interpret **everything** they see in terms
of their religious beliefs.
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From: OPUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: fdghjkdfghjkfdg
Date & Time: 12/30/90 17:43:36
Message Number 11021
It's not gonna support WWIV... But have it's OWN system like WWIV..
but it has been delayed do to a few technical problems and I've been
working on something else BIG real BIG.. the biggest program I have ever
ATTEMPTED to write..(which means I may never get it to work right!) umm.
I'm not sure I would like to make it FIDO but I suppose it couldn't hurt
In Ohio there was many Fido boards but there was also about a
ZILLION (no exageration!) WWIV net boards.. leem put it this way.. they
(the Ohio peopel) are a LOT differnt then you guys.. they were more...
uhh.... NORMAL!!
Opus!
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: MAX
Subject: Hamsters...
Date & Time: 12/30/90 19:11:19
Message Number 11022
I enjoy humor very much. There are different types of it though that
are too numerous to list.
Not all types of humor are liked by the same people, everyone has
their own individual taste.
I hope that someone can help you with exactly what 'the hamster thing'
is, only because I'm not so sure myself.
I prefer mice and other small rodents self.
Night Owl
I must say though, that it's hard to catch a rat on Toxic Shock.
(TM) Anarchy Now Inc.
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: P.WHIPPED
Subject: drugs
Date & Time: 12/30/90 19:28:03
Message Number 11023
> You should't mess with drugs...
M3 year old cousin got into a bottle of Smurfs.
He felt blue for a week.
See ya L8R, allig8r...
Night Owl
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Amanda
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:19:04
Message Number 11024
>...can't picture Amelia in a bad mood...What does she do, bite heads
>off small children or what?
No, she storms around mumbling. Which reminds me, when do you sneak in
there and shave that dog of hers?
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From: RUFUS
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:21:26
Message Number 11025
I see you got a modem to use now, or do you still stop by and actually
use the computer the system is running on? Someone wanted to speak
with you about something, but I forgot who it was. Maybe Eddie
Monnerat, dunno.
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From: RUFUS
To: JONBOY
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:24:55
Message Number 11026
Welcome back to the BBSs. You should have been at the last RufusCon.
We had two guitar players (or was it three, or four) and one bass player
(and I use the word player in the loosest sense). If I could have found
the accordian it woulda been all right.
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From: RUFUS
To: RUFUS
Subject: Amanda
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:28:13
Message Number 11027
Dain Bramage, Dain Bramage! That should have read "When do we sneak in
...shave that dog of hers?"
Ack....
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From: CHAS
To: ALL
Subject: -=>
Date & Time: 12/31/90 16:21:37
Message Number 11030
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: BEATLE
Subject: Rutles
Date & Time: 12/31/90 19:36:48
Message Number 11031
You are the only other person in the world that I've EVER heard talking
about them. I can't remember when I saw that, or really anything of it
so I'll shut up now, but this is good.... this is very good, that
means I was NOT hallucinating.
-- Dirty Wrat
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From: BEATLE
To: DIRTY WRAT
Subject: Rutles
Date & Time: 12/31/90 21:04:17
Message Number 11032
> only person in the world that I've EVER heard talking about them.
Another person who's heard of it... it was petty darn obscure, but
it's got a cult of sorts burried in the ranks of Beatles fans...
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From: P.WHIPPED
To: TURTLE
Subject: amusement
Date & Time: 12/31/90 21:44:19
Message Number 11033
Unofficial Public Amusement: Syncronized jumping
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From: P.WHIPPED
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: puns
Date & Time: 12/31/90 21:51:04
Message Number 11034
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very puny.....
I like puns the same amount that I enjoy cutting myself and
pouring alcohol into the cuts when I'm really really bored
(The only good thing about cutting oneself is seeing how deep
one can cut oneself and how much blood it takes to pass out from lack
of)
Don't you hate the aesthetics of sentences that just kind of fall
off
Also aren't incomplete sente
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From: JONBOY
To: TURTLE
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 12/31/90 22:11:46
Message Number 11035
It's kind of too bad they have to interpret **everything** they see
in terms of their religious beliefs.
Well... speaking on a strictly existential basis - don't we all?
Of course we should take our personal dogma (whatever it may be as
a "religious" belief) as the basis of comparison. What actually annoys
you so is the fact that they believe in a superior being and you don't.
If you *really* wanna have fun - ask them why you shouldn't believe in
the "Little People", changelings and the rest of mythology that has
been a matter of certain "knowledge" of years past.. My trouble is
I'm a true anarchist at heart.
JoNboy
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From: JONBOY
To: RUFUS
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 12/31/90 22:17:44
Message Number 11036
Thanx for the How-D. I'm glad to be back - I hope I can keep up for
awhile. I really *hate* writing major programs - and this one was
<<< shudder >>> a DATABASE! Arrrggghhhh! Shades of CIS! REAL
Programmers stay the hell away from databases - and to top it off
<GASP> it deals with money! I ************HATE*********** writing
programs that deal with money because computers get kinda loose with
the small decimal points and that annoys beancounters no end. Well
this concept was so screwed from the word go they can stick it. The
problem is so severe that even THEY can't keep up with it. Ya do the
best ya can.. All I gotta do now is write the docs and help blurbs
and start distributing the crippled copies so I can have them
beating my door down for the priviledge of paying $400 for my program.
JonBoy
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From: RUFUS
To: JONBOY
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 12/31/90 23:23:53
Message Number 11037
Death to beancounters! Long live the revolution! Break the chains
ofoppresion! Kill smurfs!
...say Turtle, is your line /still/ being tapped?
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From: TURTLE
To: OPUS
Subject: fdghjkdfghjkfdg
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:16:02
Message Number 11039
Making a BBS package only capable of networking with itself isn't
all that good an idea if you're planning to distribute the software,
for no other reason than because Fido's been around for as long as it
has and it's as big as it is (and if you don't like FidoNet, there
are literally dozens of other networks that use the same software...)
FidoNet, for all its problems, kludges, and bizzare hacks, has also
become established enough that it's capable of doing all sorts of things
that aren't likely to occur to someone who's working on his own
networking from scratch, and for that matter there is even software out
there that will connect FidoNet to UseNet and InterNet; obviously,
there's a lot of people dedicating a lot of effort to Fido software
(grin). Fido protocol is a royal pain in the ASS to implement, but you
are not likely to find all that much interest in your software if it
networks but can't do Fido.
...getting off my soapbox now...
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From: TURTLE
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: Hamsters...
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:20:12
Message Number 11040
>I enjoy humor very much. There are different types of it...
Yep, like:
Gross
Disgusting
Nasty
Gross and disgusting
Gross and nasty
Nasty and disgusting
Gross, disgusting, and nasty
Sick
Repulsive
Sick and repulsive
Gross, disgusting, nasty, sick, and repulsive
...and the list goes on and on. What's yer point? :)
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Amelia...
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:23:46
Message Number 11041
>...when do you sneak in there and shave that dog of hers?
Say WHAT??!! When do /I/ shave her dog? Don't be tryin' to pin that
one on me, boy! I don't shave her dog at all...I don't want to see her
in a bad mood that badly.
You on drugs, boy?
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:25:40
Message Number 11042
The Specialist occasionally drops by...he has a modem, but no phone.
The one is of limited utility without the other.
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From: TURTLE
To: P.WHIPPED
Subject: amusement
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:27:13
Message Number 11043
I honestly can't imagine how I let that one slip. Synchronized
jumping probably competes with ticlking people senseless (in
public places, natch) for Official Florida Furry Sport.
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From: TURTLE
To: JONBOY
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:29:02
Message Number 11044
>Well...speaking on a strictly existential basis...don't we all
>[view the world in terms of religion]?
No, at least not to the same extent the Jehovah's Witnesses do.
Speaking in a strictly NON-existential, practical basis, they
interpret literally everything they see in terms of their religion.
There is **nothing** which has no religious overtones to some of these
people. Their religion colors the way they listen to music, the way
they interact with everyone from McDonald's counter people to their
co-workers, the way they read the newspaper... I have a Jehovah's
Witness pamphlet that explains how clean a JW should keep his house
(too clean is vanity, not clean enough is disrespectful to God)
and even (I am NOT making this up!!) how many times per day a proper
Christian should wash their hands. These people literally cannot wash
their hands without perceiving religious overtones to the act. THAT
is what I am talking about when I say they see the world in terms of
their religion, and nothing /but/ their religion. It is not a matter
of their beliefs not coinciding with mine at all; I don't agree with
your beliefs, but I don't accuse YOU of being unable to interpret
events in anything other than religious terms...
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From: THUMPER 1
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Im disgusting
Date & Time: 01/01/91 18:41:32
Message Number 11045
>You're distgusting...
Why Thank you! I hope you meant that as a compliment!!!
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: amusement
Date & Time: 01/01/91 22:49:37
Message Number 11046
Official Florida Furry Way to get Someone killed: Place person to be
killed in downtown area and scream "Hey I like those pump shoes you
have" and run.
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/01/91 22:51:23
Message Number 11047
Oh Ford, you've got the same pamphlet I do on "how clean to keep your
car."
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: P.WHIPPED
Subject: ARGH!
Date & Time: 01/02/91 01:27:52
Message Number 11048
I wasn't too happy with the smyrf pun when I thought of it.
Well, it IS better than nothing (isn't it) ? <NO!> Who said that?
[Night Owl is knocked off of his branch by an accurate tomato] OW!
-- a blue
Night Owl
(evil grin)
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: TURTLE
Subject: Hamsters...
Date & Time: 01/02/91 01:33:06
Message Number 11049
>Yes, like:
..........
Hahahahahaha.......(sore ribs)........falling off cha..
Those categories can also apply to fast food. ;)
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: RUFUS
Subject: smurfs
Date & Time: 01/02/91 01:57:57
Message Number 11050
I am not a smurf-lover.
I say this because it is important to what I am about to say. There has
been growing anti-smurf sentiments as of late, a fact particularly
disturbing to those of us who, unlike you and your Ardvarkian cult,
do not fit into the norms of society. I stand on a moral position of
tolerance of others who are different, unique... blue. I stand,
therefore, for SMURF RIGHTS.
DW
p.s. sentiments should be sentiment... never mind the grammar - it's
the message that counts.
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: TURTLE
Subject: Can't say...
Date & Time: 01/02/91 02:03:34
Message Number 11051
We don't know how to party.
(that was in reference to the posts on syncronized jumping, and public
tickle-fests)
Now go back and READ the message subject, it'll make more sense
.
(subtle punctiashun)
DW
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From: RUFUS
To: DIRTY WRAT
Subject: AC/DC
Date & Time: 01/02/91 19:25:43
Message Number 11052
Tickets for the AC/DC show go on sale this Saturday morning. I'll be
dragging Zot's ass outta bed to go down and get some. You want one
I suppose? Or more? I can probably cover the cost for four tickets.
Please call me voice (not after 11 p.m., please, the folks get annoyed)
or on my data line so I can chat with ya.
...zickle snort, my son.
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From: RADAGAST
To: RUFUS
Subject: AC/DC
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:00:30
Message Number 11054
WOW! gosh i'd love to go to an AC/Dc concert. But alas, i'm too poor.
But hey would any brave soul be interested in attempting to bring a
tape recorder to the concert??? ah well...
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: TURTLE
Subject: NOSEDIVE!
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:21:06
Message Number 11056
>......yup-yup-yup
Matrimony is a process by which a grocer acquired an account the
florist had.
When a husband and wife have got each other, the devil only knows
which has got the other.
Yeah, why not????
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: BEATLE
Subject: NOSEDIVE!
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:23:57
Message Number 11057
"The Rutles".....wow, it has been a long time but I'm sure I've seen it.
That gang just couldn't do much wrong. $9.95?!?!?!?! for any Monty
Python stuff (or spin-offs) is a GREAT price. I'd like to see it again,
you say it's NOT for rent around anywhere? Oh well, maybe I'll borrow
yours sometime.
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Looooong time
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:26:25
Message Number 11058
>>borrow it....
First I'll let you know if it works <evil-er grin>.
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 01/02/91 23:42:08
Message Number 11061
>...say Turtle, is your line /still/ being tapped?
Funny you should mention it. I was footloose and GTE-free throughout
December, but they just started again...
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:01:14
Message Number 11062
Well, actually, I'm referring to an article about "how clean to
keep your house and clothing" in an issue of the Watchtower. It's
really fascinating stuff--seems a proper Christian washes his hands
exactly three times a day, excluding special circumstances (changing
the oil in his car, presumably, which the Bible tells us must be
done religiously every 6,000 miles). More than that is a sign of
vanity. The article also explains how much proper Christians ought
to spend on their wardrobe, how often proper Christians will wash their
car, and other profound stuff. (I have another issue that explains
why a proper Christian must never, ever watch a movie that has an
"R" rating. That more than anything else has convinced me that the
organization behind the Jehovah's Witnesses is more interested in
control than in moral purity...surely, from a moral standpoint, every
movie ought to be rated on its own merit. There are some R-rated movies
which attempt to make a moral point, and PG movies that'd curl the
toes of these people...)
We must seek God, and we must hail him! Seek! Hail! Seek! Hail!
Sieg Heil!
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From: TURTLE
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: Hamsters...
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:06:10
Message Number 11063
>Those categories can also apply to fast food.
All right, what are you trying to say? :)
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From: TURTLE
To: DIRTY WRAT
Subject: Aardvarks
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:07:04
Message Number 11064
Aardvarkain cult...I like that.
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From: TURTLE
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: NOSEDIVE!
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:13:53
Message Number 11065
Love is the delightful interlude between meeting the most beautiful
person in the world and marrying a haddock.
Sex is something which begins at puberty and ends at marriage.
"I am happy now. Why should I marry and spoil it all?" --Mae West
I'm game if you are...
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From: TURTLE
To: LASER
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:15:43
Message Number 11066
That's gotta hurt at 300 baud...
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: TURTLE
Subject: fast food
Date & Time: 01/03/91 01:40:10
Message Number 11067
>All right, what are you trying to say? :)
Well, since you asked. I don't like Mcdonald's food, though their break-
fasts are half decent.
(To me, there's nothing like a Howard johnson big breakfast)
For hamburgers, I'd go tWendy's, they have a decent salad bar.
Hot dogs & rootbeer:
The frosted Mug in Venice
Chicken... Chic-filet
Roast Beef...the deli a Winn Dixie
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: TURTLE
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/03/91 01:52:09
Message Number 11068
>That's gotta hurt at 300 baud...
You're so right... Could you imagine that as a brain fart? Whew! *]:)
BTW, a new smiley! ^
a smiley in a ski cap (rolled up)
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Warrenpeace
Date & Time: 01/03/91 23:44:19
Message Number 11071
Gee, thanks! I'll try calling Warren Peace next chance I get.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: RUFUS
Subject: RufusCon
Date & Time: 01/03/91 23:58:05
Message Number 11072
>Speaking of that, some Witness' o' Jehovah gave me a book on how clean
>to keep my car, bathroom, and house. Too clean and your showing vain,
>not clean enough and your a bad model for other would be JWs.
I could never be a Jehovah's Witness. I never saw the accident.
Basically, it seem's they're taking the idea of moderation to
extremes, no? Moderation is good -- in moderation.
:Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Drugs
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:06:21
Message Number 11073
My earlier position on this topic: All drugs should be able to be
prescribed by a medical doctor. This includes substances untested by
the FDA, substances known to be dangerous, and substances known not
to work.
How would you keep drugged-up people from the roads?
:Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TURTLE
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:13:30
Message Number 11074
>I was awakened this morning by a pair of Jehovah's Witlesses who
>came by at a Godawful early time, so I had 'em for breakfast...yum
>yum. Delicious, nutritious, and soo wholesome.
They usually need salt.
:Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: CHAS
Subject: -=>
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:17:28
Message Number 11075
Absolutely gorgeous. Now, what's it supposed to be?
:Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: JONBOY
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:19:01
Message Number 11076
Actually, JonBoy, it's usually fun to start trying to convert
Them (fundamentalists, Jehovah's Witlesses, whatever) to a totally
foreign philosophy, and pound on it as hard as they pound on their
philosophy. I left some Gideon's Bibles with a group of Hairy Fishnets
once.
/Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: DIRTY WRAT
Subject: smurfs
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:24:28
Message Number 11077
>There has been growing anti-smurf sentiments as of late, a fact
>particularly disturbing to those of us who, unlike you and your
>Ardvarkian cult, do not fit into the norms of society. I stand on
>a moral position of tolerance of others who are different, unique...
>blue. I stand, therefore, for SMURF RIGHTS.
My worthy opponent has claimed, without giving any reasons other
than emotional, that smurfs deserve rights. Although I also find smurfs
to be "cute," even a glimpse of the facts wil prove his position
unbtenable.
1. Smurfs infest mushroom patches, making them unsuitable for
human consumption. In some cases destroying up to half of a
farmer's crop, smurfs house themselves with no respect for
human boundaries.
2. Although they appear human-like, the near 30-1 male/female
ratio of smurfs belies their unusual sex lives. Young children
may be morally scarred for life by their ritual "banging up
Smurfette."
3. Smurfs are an excellent source of meat, providing wonderful
flavor for soups, stews, roasts, and all other traditional
ways of cooking meat. Their light, veal-like flesh is a
delightful, low-calorie alternative to chicken or fish.
4. They are a known cause of noise pollution, magic pollution,
and more than several have been implicated in mischief.
In light of these facts, I propose that the Smurf hunting season
be extended to year-round, until such a time that the Smurf population
be reduced to managable levels.
:Dragonfly;
(C) 1990, Procrastinators, Inc.
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From: RUFUS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 10:31:42
Message Number 11078
>I left some Gideon's Bibles with a group of Hairy Fishnets once.
That's Hairy FishNUTS! Pear dimples for Hairy Fishnuts.
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From: GODFATHER
To: ANYONE
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/04/91 15:46:50
Message Number 11080
Hello I am new user and I just want to hear from a bunch of other users
I Just am trying out the new system. Please respond anyway you can.
Thank you, Godfather.
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From: TURTLE
To: GODFATHER
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/04/91 17:47:24
Message Number 11082
Arf! Hello...here is a generic respnse to your message. Is good,
yesno?
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From: BEATLE
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: NOSEDIVE!
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:00:32
Message Number 11084
Guess what? I'll have it at Pentacon (which I heard you'll be at)...
Alas, (gee, ANOTHER one of those?) you'll be reading this AFTER
Pentacon...
At least I have the advantage of knowing what you look like to
approach you. I have to get some tapes from Thumper One, and I have NO
idea who he is, except that he's 19.
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From: BEATLE
To: LASER
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:02:36
Message Number 11085
At least you didn't end that message with "Brain Fart" or "Mosh".
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:04:51
Message Number 11086
> More than that is a sign of vanity...
Does this mean that Bart Fox would have vanity to the 25th power? Or
is he doing something else in the bathroom all the time? I guess he's
void, though, since he's an atheist.
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From: BEATLE
To: GODFATHER
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:10:15
Message Number 11087
> Hello... I just want to hear from a bunch of other users...
Trying to make us an offer we can't refuse??
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:11:17
Message Number 11088
> Arf!... here is a generic respnse to your message.
I like my specific response much better :)
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From: CHAS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: scbbs
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:29:03
Message Number 11089
Hahaha...welllll...it was supposed to be an ibm-extended ascii large-
letter ad for Suncoast City, saying "Happy Holidays from Suncoast
City BBS"...ah, well!
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From: CHAS
To: ALL
Subject: Picnick!!
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:31:44
Message Number 11090
Yes, folks, it's the (notorious) Monthly Indoor Picnick time!!
January 12th (Saturday), 10 AM to Noonish, at Chef Paul's
Restaurant (great food at low prices!!), Rt 41 at 12th St., Gulf side!
Dozens of freebie "prizes" - books, HARDware, software,
"stuff" - jes' for bein' there!! Great conversation, good fun....
Make it a point to stop by: mark it down: January 12th, Chef Pauls!
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: GODFATHER
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:54:52
Message Number 11091
> Plesae respond any way you can...
You have reached our car phone and we are at home right now.
The next time we go out, we will return your message at the tone.
(*beep*) .......
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: RUFUS
Subject: AC/DC
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:36:09
Message Number 11093
Well -- I know >>I've been thunderstruck... but, ah... by the time you
will read this we will have worked the ticket thing out.
Why, pray tell, did I call long distance?? I don't know either, I think
it was to confuse (and worship) the Aardvark of Happiness...
hope it works..
DW
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: TURTLE
Subject: But at least...
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:42:36
Message Number 11094
In reference to Laser's message:
BOY does it hurt at three hundred baud (love that Tandy MODEM PHONE 100)
... but at least the message was PROFOUND.
DW
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Smurfs N Bits..
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:47:30
Message Number 11095
Smurf hunting season, long extented over the past few years has wrought
damage that even YOU, my freind cannot ignore.
Population figures alone indicate that Smurf bashing should be stopped.
Consider: Only 101 smurfs remain... the small percentage of the
mushroom crop saved by ruthlessly hunting and beating (pleasing as it
sounds, mind you...) these little twerps... I mean, er, these poor
creatures... out of being simply isn't worth it. You, a kind generous
being (or so I thought)... should know this.
I think I'm gonna hafta get Bluepeace after you.
DW
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: GODFATHER
Subject: Response.
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:52:04
Message Number 11096
Hello.
Welcome and all that.
Dirty Wrat
P.S. Be as abstract as possible (big grin)... they like it here.
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From: DIRTY WRAT
To: BEATLE
Subject: That was...
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:54:21
Message Number 11097
...Rough.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness (Man I'd like to meet the one who
came up with that one...)
And in that case, Bart Fox is in the apartment NEXT DOOR to his
deity.
DW
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From: JONBOY
To: TURTLE
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:10:29
Message Number 11098
in anything other than religious terms...
Hmmm... I wish I could remember that thread - it's fun to get you riled
but not mistakenly. I would NEVER say that everyone sees the world
colored with a relgious motif - rather I think I was trying to say that
everyone is dogmatic in their perception of the world (I would *swear*
I used the term dogmatic.... sighhhhh mus' be gettin ol an feeble).
Sorry for the coronary. In fact I tend to agree with you and have
told a couple of JW's that Jesus and the parables of the Shepard and
his sheep did not mean they were to act like sheep - blindly following
and never questioning. I get tired of people that equate Christianity
with a big red OFF switch on the frontal lobes. Enuf of MY soapbox...
A believing, but yet-questioning JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
To: DIRTY WRAT
Subject: Smurfs
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:17:15
Message Number 11099
We have an RTV dispenser at work that dispenses little oodles of blue
stuff. One gal calls it Smurf shit and another argues that it is
like the old meat grinder her pa had and so must be smurf guts.
Whatever part or parcel the stuff is, they give their all for a silly
Oring on an automotive speed sensor...
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From: JONBOY
To: TURTLE
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:25:56
Message Number 11100
Arf! Hello...here is a generic respnse to your message. Is good, yesno?
Much too formal - bring out the best wine for our guests - on second
thought that would include the nazis that have the well-known insect
attached to your electronic umbiblical cord...
JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
To: RUFUS
Subject: Metal?
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:30:59
Message Number 11101
BTW - did you guys EVER get me a copy of Heavy Metal? My parents
decided to get me an idiot box for Christmas... sighhhhh parents.
Now I have gotten along for 5 years without one and there it sits....
I dared not turn it on until I *knew* that something good was on so
I got the kid up the street to tell me when Star Trek - The New
Generation came on.... better _ I could get used to the damned thing
and not begrudge it the small space that it uses if I could be certain
that it was potty-trained and would not dispense putrid pablum passed
off as a passable parody of entertainment. So - I gotta get a VCR.
Kind of like putting it on a leash until it knows who's boss. I
have Les Miserables - I need to balance the Yin with some Yang -
I gotta have - REAL entertainment!!!!
JonBoy
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From: TURTLE
To: CHAS
Subject: scbbs
Date & Time: 01/05/91 23:38:22
Message Number 11103
>...it was supposed to be an ibm-extended ascii large-letter ad for
>Suncoast City...
And what, pray tell, were you thinking when you posted an IBM
graphics ad on a TRS-80 BBS? :)
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From: TURTLE
To: DIRTY WRAT
Subject: Response.
Date & Time: 01/05/91 23:40:52
Message Number 11104
>Be as abstract as possible (big grin)... they like it here.
And to your family, as well; I too see it, with the green one.
The noise is most pleasing with the china, don't you agree?
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From: TURTLE
To: JONBOY
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/05/91 23:43:40
Message Number 11105
>...on second thought that would include the nazis that have the
>well-known insect attached to your electronic umbilical cord...
Heh heh heh. I like that.
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From: RUFUS
To: JONBOY
Subject: Metal?
Date & Time: 01/06/91 20:05:32
Message Number 11107
Umm...Turtle is in charge of Heavy Metal. I figure it'll make a damned
fine "New Millinium" gift. :) Really, he did have a problem (something
like two VCRs being replaced by an Amiga at Gnu College)...
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From: RUFUS
To: LASER
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/06/91 20:07:34
Message Number 11108
Well, it's good to know that your not just a file leech, as the rumours
said. Message posting is a vital part of a BBS.
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From: ROBERTO
To: ANYONE
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/07/91 17:00:14
Message Number 11112
I rejust got back in to calling bbs.s's, and so far this is the bes
t board I'Veve called. I' m using a Co=64 with only 40 columnms. do
does any one know of a good 40 column bbs?
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From: ROBERTO
To: SYSOP
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/07/91 17:03:41
Message Number 11113
SYSOP, I have just started using you bbs. and , and I look ed at
your list and My computer is alot fasterr than mine , Im using a 40
colunm screen, a c=64. anyway I couldn' t tell if you had any commodor
e bbs listed . could you leave me a message and give me a coup
couple of numbers? Thanks.......
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: ROBERTO
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/07/91 20:28:43
Message Number 11114
Most BBSes you come across will be in 80-column format. There aresome
80-column terminal programs available for the C64.
As for BBSes in the area, read Turtle7s BBS list from the main menu.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: MAX
To: LASER
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/07/91 23:48:31
Message Number 11115
This BBS only "sucks" if you're interested exclusively in playing games,
trading "warez" or insulting people. Those of use with less limited
mental capacity than your message indicates enjoy boards like this. If
you do have a brain, you might want to put it in gear and enjoy this
system, and I'll even apologize for what I'm about to say to you. If
you only enjoy acting like a brainless moron, piss off, asshole.
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From: BEATLE
To: LASER
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/08/91 06:51:25
Message Number 11116
Turtle, I think it's time to kick this Jackass off your system. He's
contributing nothing worthwhile.
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From: BEATLE
To: ROBERTO
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/08/91 06:53:03
Message Number 11117
> does any one know of a good 40 column bbs?
I don't think any BBS runs at 40 columns, but I've got a C=64 and I
manage to make it.
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From: BEATLE
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/08/91 06:54:52
Message Number 11118
> There are some 80-column terminal programs available for the C64.
If you could show me one, I would be grateful. I have one, and it's
annoying. The font is hard to read, and the screen won't scroll or clear
it just keeps going back to the top and clearing and writing line by
line. At least if it does that, it should put some space between the old
and new.
I hope Roberto understands that you don't have to only call Commodore
boards and you can read 80 coulumn boards with 40 columns...
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From: TURTLE
To: LASER
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/08/91 16:38:09
Message Number 11120
Please stop abusing the system immediately. If you have nothing
productive to say, don't fill my message bases with this garbage.
Thank you.
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From: TURTLE
To: ROBERTO
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/08/91 16:39:19
Message Number 11121
I don't know if there are any C=64 BBSes running right now, other than
Tink's Place 8which may be down). There are 80-column terminal programs
for C=64 machines out there; perhaps findong one of them might be
productive. When you're listing anything, including the BBS list or
messages, you can hit Control-S or P to pause, and Return or Control-
Q to resume.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: GODFATHER
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:06:02
Message Number 11122
>Please respond anyway you can.
Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!
or, better yet...
Rosebud!
Seriously, welcome to the system, Godfather. Check your weapons at
the door.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: CHAS
Subject: scbbs
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:08:19
Message Number 11123
Hippy hollowdays to you too, Chas.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: DIRTY WRAT
Subject: AC/DC
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:09:42
Message Number 11124
May the Aardvark of Happiness bestow fewmets unto thy eighth daughter.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: JONBOY
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:15:13
Message Number 11125
Remind me to play "I Want to Be a Clone" at you sometime. You'll
really appreciate the lyrics.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: JONBOY
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:17:29
Message Number 11126
Simple. Serve the best wind to anyone who enters this board properly.
And ask that the Aardvark of Happiness drool on anyone who doesn't.
"For narrow is the gate, and many shall try to climb in other ways,
over the roof, through the floor, and yea through time-travel. But my
aardvarklings shall not follow these false leaders, as they have a
hard time following me. And yea, though the night be dark, and the
storms rage over the whole of the earth, and though there be
stumbling blocks in the One True Way, and though there be ferrets,
the One True Way shall descend upon mankind, causing some to swoon,
some to swim, and some to drop their breakfast cereals. And each shall
follow their Way of the Aardvark, snuffling away from the Dark and the
Light, away from the Blue, Green, and Yellow, and toward the One True
Shade of Grey that exists within this world. Thus speaketh the
Dragonfly."
- From the Seventeenth Book of the Aardvark (third edition)
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From: BURNEY
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: nosedive!
Date & Time: 01/08/91 22:18:51
Message Number 11127
Sorry about my long time in replying. Two jobs, programming ,overtime,
holidays, etc. Yes I have a copy guard buster. They work...at least
the one I have does. I never put more than one movie on a tape. The
reason is because you have to search for the beginning of each movie.
You say...what about the tape counter. My response, what if you stop
in the middle of a movie for one reason or another or you put it in the
other VCR or you accidently hit the reset button or any other foolish
thing you can think of. They are obviously not fool proof....or idiot
proof....or stupid proof either.
BY THE WAY
I'm sure turtle has noticed (maybe) that I signed on at 1200 baud....
YEAH...HOORAH...JOYOUS NOISES. I think its much better than 300. I'm
sure you will all agree. I also am now running a 128. NO MORE 40
COLUMNS. Praise the Lord, pass the 2400....
>>>Burney<<<
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From: BURNEY
To: ALL
Subject: I'm baaaaaack
Date & Time: 01/08/91 22:30:25
Message Number 11128
Hello to all. I'm back again....thought you got rid of me didn't ya?
I have no good excuse so I wont bother. Also I am behind by about
a million messages, so I wont bother to read /them/ either. This is not
a one line message....:)
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: BEATLE
Subject: RufusCon
Date & Time: 01/09/91 16:56:20
Message Number 11129
Yes, but it was misquoted.
It's supposed to read,
"Bastard, I'll kill you for that. WatermellonCantaloupe...PIZZA."
Howza?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/09/91 16:58:56
Message Number 11130
T> and just think of the shit you could dump in the air while you're
T>at it...
Ooooh!! (Gets faraway look on face...eyes glaze over....)
Yes...yes!! YES!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Emissions! EMISSIONS!
I imagine I'll have to tear down the engine and replace the gaskets
first, tho.... Only $140, hell. Why not?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: RUFUS
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:01:49
Message Number 11131
No, still dropping by on machines... but today I got a hold of a modem
at work! HEHEH.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: OPUS
Subject: hey!
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:04:15
Message Number 11132
I don't suppose anyone out there has access to a XENIX (or UNIX) based
BBS? I have been using XENIX alot lately...
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: hmmm
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:08:23
Message Number 11133
Do you know Mike Greenawald?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:12:34
Message Number 11134
T>...he has a modem, but no phone.
T>The one is of limited utility without the other.
The one is of NO *&$@%!! utility without the other.
'Scuse me...that needed further clarification.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Im disgusting
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:14:36
Message Number 11135
Yes, disgusting, and extremely uninformed when it comes to the military.
I don't know what kind of letter you wrote me on UBAFTM, but if
Chips mild rebuttal (on my behalf, thank you Chip) was any indications
of the actual contents of the original letter, then when I get back
on line, you are in for one hell of a debate, bud.
So, tell me, where did you get the handle, Thumper? Disney? Do you
have another friend called "Flower", maybe? Hmmm....
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: GODFATHER
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:23:20
Message Number 11136
I like that handle. How did you come to pick it?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: MAX
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:29:05
Message Number 11137
M 2 Lzr> If you only enjoy acting like a brainless moron, piss off,
M 2 Lzr> asshole.
BRAVO! BRAVO! Well spoken, for a slam. Worthy of me at my nastiest!
Very nice.
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/09/91 19:06:59
Message Number 11138
> there are 80-column terminal programs for C-64 machines...
Grrrrr.... Y'know, it would be nice to A) find one and B) have it be
good. I've fulfilled A one time in all my experience with the 64 and it
doesn't come close to fulfilling B... It has a nice word processor in it
though...
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: BEATLE
Subject: 80-col term.
Date & Time: 01/09/91 19:51:06
Message Number 11139
I assume that you're regisetered on BC. As soon as Oden gets his U/D
area straightened out, I'll UL the term I have.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: MAX
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Im disgusting
Date & Time: 01/10/91 18:23:28
Message Number 11142
> So, tell me, where did you get the handle, Thumper? Disney?
Uh oh, not the great handle debate again.
> Do you have another friend called "Flower", maybe? Hmmm...
The "hmmm" could depend on whether or not the Flower in question is
female, and whether or not rabbits believe in cross-species dating.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: BURNEY
Subject: I'm baaaaaack
Date & Time: 01/10/91 18:28:03
Message Number 11143
Well, hello, and welcome back, Burney. This is a one-line message.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/10/91 18:29:51
Message Number 11144
>The one is of NO *&$@%!! utility without the other.
Unless you're using a Telebit Trailblazer...
/Dragonfly/
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From: RUFUS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/10/91 19:06:51
Message Number 11145
> Rosebud!
Acne, I said Acne! I've got a bad case of acne!
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From: RUFUS
To: BURNEY
Subject: I'm baaaaaack
Date & Time: 01/10/91 19:09:21
Message Number 11146
Welcome back dude. Good to see your at 1200. BTW, if I met you at
Pentacon, nice to meet ya. If not, your still a damned fine figment of
my imagination. (sorry, but that day was confusing, what with throwing
Wolverine into the pool, him shooting out windows, millions of games of
Lemmings, Front 242 and John Tesh's "Brain Dead Weasels." Not to
mention to Led Zepplin laser show after that.)
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From: BURNEY
To: BEATLE
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:03:42
Message Number 11147
I've been on Zimmcomm BBS. They can use both 40 or 80. I /used/ to
have a C64 but I grew up into the 128. 80 Column is much better. Now
I'm looking for a couple of 81's. I also think Courts of Chaos is a
commodore board. If so, you should be able to get the 40 column there
too. BTW Zimmcomm is a multiline system. The numbers are 924-0499,
921-1148, 921-1412, 921-1912. One of those lines are for 2400-9600
baud. I dont know which one. Just try'm. Good Luck.
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From: BURNEY
To: BEATLE
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:17:48
Message Number 11148
>Grrrr....Y'know it would be nice to A) find oneand B) have it be good..
.....
I've got one of those 80 column programs for the 64. Yes it is not very
good either. The reason for that is because the text goes thru the
graphics chip. It also loads into ML. I tried loading the 80 column
program and then loading the term program on top. All f it would load,
but part of it was overwritten. We all can guess what happened then....
it didnt work. If you can get someone (like turtle) who knows more
about ml/6502 programming, then they may be able to alter the starting
and ending addresses so they dont overwrite each other. In theory, it
should work. I have the 128 now so I dont need to fool around with that
anymore. If you get one working, lemme know, I'd be interested in
running it up to see how it works.
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From: BURNEY
To: RUFUS
Subject: I'm baaaaaack
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:27:30
Message Number 11149
Boy did I miss a good party. No, you and I never met...unless you were
at turtles warm-up RufusconII party. I was there for a short while.
I'm the one who brought the chips and pop.
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From: BURNEY
To: ROBERTO
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:32:20
Message Number 11150
Hello. Take a look at message # 11147 from me to beatle. In the
message, you should find some answers to a few of your questions. If
not, leave me a specific question and I'll give you a really stupid
answer if I cant give you the facts. BTW. You can still call any other
BBS. You will just get the messages in 40 column format. Although you
probably figured that out by now. After all you probably will get this
in 40 coulmn. I've used the 64 on this board for quite a while. I just
recently went to the 128.
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From: NIGHTHAWK
To: MAX
Subject: nothing
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:44:02
Message Number 11151
That's him. If you've got a Zapper or Oakley on here, they're his
too, Toitle.
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From: NIGHTHAWK
To: RUFUS
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:54:20
Message Number 11152
HAHAH. That was a good episode. Seen the SNL parody of Citizen Kane?
BTW, "Rock n' Roll" (LZep) is great to listen to when you're in an
F/A-18 Interceptor flying at 40,960 feet, closing in on some MIG's
attacking AF-1
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From: NIGHTHAWK
To: POETRY LOVERS
Subject: CofC
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:59:42
Message Number 11153
To poetry lovers, most of the poetry I've written in the past 10 years
will be on CofC within a month. I got some heavy duty stuff in there,
like Ode to Battle of Evermore, a sonnet I wrote 2 days ago between my
book writing.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: MAX
Subject: Im disgusting
Date & Time: 01/11/91 15:32:03
Message Number 11154
Not at all what I was implying.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/11/91 15:32:43
Message Number 11155
TS>...NO...use...
DF>Unless ... Telebit Trailblazer...
Hmmm? Come again?
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:24:56
Message Number 11156
>Only $140, hell. Why not?
No earthly reason /I/ can think of. And just think, you'll be able
to pollute at 150 miles per, too...
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: hey!
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:25:51
Message Number 11157
>I don't suppose anyone out there has access to a XENIX (or UNIX)
>based BBS?
Try giving SOTA a call; they're running Magpie under Unix and might be
able to help you out. And just think, you could always run Opus...
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: hmmm
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:27:40
Message Number 11158
>Do you know Mike Greenawald?
Now, now. Play nice.
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From: TURTLE
To: BURNEY
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:31:56
Message Number 11159
Turtle doesn't /do/ 6502 machine language programming.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: RUFUS
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/11/91 21:27:22
Message Number 11160
"You can't do this to me! I'm rich! I'm important! I'm a REPUBLICAN!"
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Telebit
Date & Time: 01/11/91 21:29:48
Message Number 11161
TS>Hmmm? Come again?
It's a long story. To shorten it up, Turtle, Rufus, and I met some
California furries, and one of them was discussing a new modem he was
the head designer for. Anyway, we were joking that the thing had
enough extra memory and CPU power on it that we could bypass having
a computer -- just run your BBS off the modem itself.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: BURNEY
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/11/91 21:33:34
Message Number 11162
I used to do 6502 programming on an Atari 800... don't know how
much good that will do you. If you have a technical reference manual
lying around (that is, how the computer physically writes to disks
the machine language programs...), I'd be willing to give it a shot.
(Sure! I LOVE relocating code in memory. I'm lying through my
teeth.)
/Dragonfly/
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From: BURNEY
To: TURTLE
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/11/91 23:10:26
Message Number 11163
I remember you said that. However I thought you might be able to help
find anl alter an address. Thats all.
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From: BURNEY
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: prg
Date & Time: 01/11/91 23:12:34
Message Number 11164
All that is not needed. All you have to do is find the starting and
ending address for the term prg and the 80 column prg. After locating
them, alter them so they dont overwrite each other and then re save them
just like any other file. I dont have the utility to list a ml prg. so
the address can be found. I dont think you need to find out HOW the
computer writes to disk a ml prg and all that stuff.
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From: TIBERIUS
To: ALL
Subject: Greetings
Date & Time: 01/12/91 10:51:05
Message Number 11165
Greetings one and all, from a new user to the system. Are there any
rules or anti-venomous methods to abide by here? I plan on being here
for a while, so I guess I'll need some help getting started in the
'topics of choice' around the board.. Anyway, nice to meet all of you.
Tiberius
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From: BURNEY
To: ALL
Subject: /
Date & Time: 01/12/91 22:33:23
Message Number 11166
Well there doesnt seem to be much activity going on today. Only one
more message after I logged off /last/ night. What's going on.
Everyone asleep or what?
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From: RUFUS
To: BURNEY
Subject: I'm baaaaaack
Date & Time: 01/13/91 01:18:51
Message Number 11167
>unless you were at turtles warm-up RufusconII party...
What's a RufusCon without the Official Florida Furry Object of
harrasment? Well, then I did meet you. Hello..
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From: RUFUS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Telebit
Date & Time: 01/13/91 01:22:04
Message Number 11168
>...Turtle, Rufus, and I met some California furries...
I, did I know? Great, not only I'm I going blind, missing big hunks
of my recent memory, I'm going off to places without knowing it.
AND, I can spell now like know, and know like now, know what I mean now?
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From: BEATLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/13/91 08:08:56
Message Number 11170
> Acne, I said Acne! I've got a bad case of acne!
Elmyra, you are Montana Max's girlfriend.
I aaaammm?
That's the rumor.
What?
That you're Montana Max's girlfriend.
I aaaammm?
Or: Put down the sword, Toshiro (from "Animaniacs!"
And as long as we're talking about funny quotes (were we?)... last
night they had Vanilla (ECHH!) Ice, who's song "Ice Ice Baby" borrows
VERY heavily from an old David Bowie song. They played the song at the
beginning of "Weekend Update" and Dennis Miller said: "God, I love Bowie
... Y'know, he wrote that song 10 years ago, and the best thing about it
is that it's timeless. I bet it could be a hit today."
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From: BEATLE
To: BURNEY
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/13/91 08:13:47
Message Number 11171
> Courts of Chaos... Zimmcomm...
I'm on courts, and it runs on an Amiga (I guess you could call that a
Commodore board), and it does conform to your terminal, which isn't a
feature of a lot of IBM BBSes. You have to look at a word wrapped screen
with half on one side and half at the end of the last line.
BTW, Zimmcomm is private, or something like that. I tried logging on,
but it told me a user had to "sponsor" me. I don't need it anyway, I
only wanted to read an echo which I get off Jos' Lounge.
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From: BEATLE
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/13/91 08:19:24
Message Number 11172
> "You can't do this to me! I'm rich! I'm important! I'm a REPUBLICAN!"
Or: "You can't do this to me! Ther're laws to protect the rich, you
know!!"
Or a good one from Plucky on "Dream Date Game": "Can I trade my date
in for cash?"
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From: BARTMAN
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: yo
Date & Time: 01/13/91 11:45:35
Message Number 11173
Hey Tiberius welcome to the system , I am rather new to BBSing myself. T
his is the first time that I have actually been to this BBS though. Any
way just leave me lots of mail.
See you around,
Bartman
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From: TURTLE
To: BURNEY
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:44:55
Message Number 11174
Changing the address a program loads to also involves changing a
whole lot of stuff in the program itself: jump addresses, data
storage addresses, etc. Moving a machine-language program generally
involves doing a /lot/ of work with a debugger, and a lot of time.
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From: TURTLE
To: BURNEY
Subject: prg
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:46:29
Message Number 11175
>All you have to do is find the starting and ending address for the
>term prg and the 80 column prg. After locating them, alter them so
>they dont overwrite each other...
...and the program you move stops working. If you move the program by,
say, 200 bytes, then suddenly all the branch instructions will be off
by 100 bytes, any internal data buffers will not be where the program
expects them to be, data storage areas will be in the wrong place, etc.
A machine language program jumps to memory addresses, not to labels or
line numbers or whatever. So if the program jumps to a subroutine at
address 7FB0, say, when you move the program it will still jump to
address 7FB0--and Heaven only knows what will actually /be/ there
when it arrives.
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From: TURTLE
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: Greetings
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:50:13
Message Number 11176
>Are there any rules or anti-venomous methods to abide by here?
No direct attacks on other users. (Note, however, that to attack a
user's IDEAS is not the same thing as to attack another USER, and is
certainly permitted and in some cases encouraged.) Do not take offense
at another user's posts when it is not clear that the offense was
intended. Other than that, this system is fairly relaxed and informal;
there are no specific rules concerning language (except that you keep
it rational; nobody likes to read messages with a print density of
four profanities per inch), or topics for discussion, or any of that
sort of bureaucratic doo-doo (to borrow an expression from our
illustrious leader). Welcome aboard!
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From: TURTLE
To: BURNEY
Subject: /
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:55:59
Message Number 11177
>Everyone asleep or what?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: bbs
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:57:40
Message Number 11178
ZimmComm is actually semi-private, due to a few small problems John was
having with the Feds watching his system. If he knows you or can get
someone he knows to vouch for you, he'll give you an account, but he
doesn't want too many people he doesn't know lurking around and speaking
into microphones. S'nothing personal.
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From: OPUS
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: hey!
Date & Time: 01/13/91 17:51:14
Message Number 11179
(ack... TAB doesn't work!!).. umm.. actually I can give you the number
of several but there all in columbus Ohio......
Opus
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From: ODEN
To: TURTLE
Subject: 80 col 64 term.
Date & Time: 01/13/91 18:39:08
Message Number 11181
An easier way to get an 80 col terminal would be to find a small term
that is written in basic, and just put the terminal as a gosub in the
80 col thingie, or put it befor or after the 80 col converter. I
believe 'Run Term' would work. by the way, my BBS supports commodore 64
and also 40 col. and 2400 baud. 923-2862
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From: THUMPER 1
To: NIGHT OWL
Subject: Hamsters...
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:04:58
Message Number 11182
>Hamster things...
Welp if you wanted to know about the Hamster thing, It's basically an
infantile response that is used as a last ditch attempt at humor.
When the Replys slow down, you can always boost the attention span of
the readers by tossin' in a few Hamster Jokes. They're pretty sick, nut
oops scuse me, but they work for me!
Snarf!
Thumper One
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From: THUMPER 1
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: smurfs
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:16:29
Message Number 11183
It is a little known fact that Smurf toys replicate themselves in the
same manner as public officials, just like most bacteria.
Let one smurf into your home and you will soon find that there are
Dozens. The best way to control this is to teach your child to play fun
games with them , like:
Smurf War tribunal
Mr Smurf visits the Toaster Oven.
or for those of you with a little swist on the kilter:
Smurfette visits the Land of Raunchy Rotory Disk Sanders.
Smurf Friction of inclined hot plates.
It ain't hard to find decent games for Jr.
snarf!
Thumper One
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From: THUMPER 1
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Huh?
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:38:33
Message Number 11184
Please Tell me Where This Hostility Came from? I don't recall the post
you mentioned. "UBAFTM" ? I probably should remember what that Stands
for but I can't. What'd I do?
Geeeeeeez give a guy a break.
Thumper One
oh and:
>Where did you get your handle, Thumper? Disney? Do you have a friend
>Called "Flower", Maybe? Hmmm...
My handle Comes From a School Nickname I had in Highschool. It has to
do with a style of Bass Guitar. I happened to be Slapping and Popping
around the fretboard during a free period, and Some friends noticed it.
Hence, Thumper. There was a BBs'er named Thumper Already, So I placed a
"One" in back of it. No I didn't get it from Disney, But I don't really
mind the connection, And yes, I DO have a friend named "Flower".
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From: THUMPER 1
To: MAX
Subject: Cross Species
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:47:47
Message Number 11185
>whether or not rabbits believe in cross-species dating.
We do. We have to keep our Multiplacation skills at peak levels, so
we some times take on a logistical problem, like Flowers.
She was very sweet actually.
Thumper One
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From: THUMPER 1
To: RUFUS
Subject: Pentacon.
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:51:00
Message Number 11186
Yes this is a little late. I'm catching up on my mail, bear(Grrr)with me
The Biggest Rush for me at the meeting was sittin in a dark laser
light show, and have a quiet lull between songs.
Suddenly Rocky's voice is heard! He Shout "PENTACON!!!!"
And The Other Pentaconers Answer back with this ROAR!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!
Phew! Wild, truly Wild.
Thumper One
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From: MAX
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Im disgusting
Date & Time: 01/13/91 21:18:24
Message Number 11187
> Not at all what I was implying.
I know, but you're fun to harrass.
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From: NIGHT OWL
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: humor
Date & Time: 01/13/91 23:42:24
Message Number 11188
despite my not fuly understanding the hamster thingy, I can add some-
thing every now and then. I must admit though, that the Hamstercam was
pretty good, i would like to see the tape sometime.
Hamsters make a nice midnight snack for me, it's a shame that they don't
glow in the dark for easier catching.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: RUFUS
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Pentacon.
Date & Time: 01/14/91 17:10:56
Message Number 11189
>...Biggest Rush...And The Other Pentaconers Answer back with this
>ROAR!!!!!
I found it funny that people who had no idea what Pentacon was were
also screaming back.
BTW, do you know when PF The Wall will be playing? We should all go
see that.
..."Brain Dead Weasels."
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From: TIBERIUS
To: BARTMAN
Subject: ho, yo
Date & Time: 01/14/91 19:41:05
Message Number 11191
Well, I am not really new to BBSing, just new to the system. Anyway, it
is nice to hear from another user. Lots of mail will be forthcoming as
long as I can think of something to say.
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From: TIBERIUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: thanks
Date & Time: 01/14/91 19:45:20
Message Number 11192
OK, Turtle, gothca and thanks. No direct attacks on other users, right
(putting away flaming arrows, stowing SCUD missle launcher, etc. hehe).
Now, please tell me one other thing....How did you manage to quote my
message?? I looked high and low for info on message writing and such
in the help sections here and found nothing. Am I looking in the wrong
place??
Thanks.
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From: TURTLE
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: UBAFTM
Date & Time: 01/14/91 22:53:39
Message Number 11195
...is Uncle Bob's Alligator Farm and Tofu Museum, just off interstate
813.
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From: TURTLE
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: thanks
Date & Time: 01/14/91 22:55:54
Message Number 11196
Well, that's one of the neat things about PBBS: No message quoting!
Ya gotta type it in by hand. PBBS is noteworthy mostly for what it
DOESN'T have: no word-whap, no quoting, no full-screen editor, no
networking capability, no life. But it works, it's efficient, and best
of all, it's FREE, so there you go.
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/14/91 22:58:13
Message Number 11197
...who here is up on his Arabic? Looks like we may get to see the next
world war in our lifetimes, kiddies, and some of us may end up seeing it
firsthand... ya all ready to tell the nice draft board why you don't
wanna go?
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From: DIONYSUS
To: ALL
Subject: YO!
Date & Time: 01/15/91 04:14:03
Message Number 11198
Hey! I'm in Gainesville, dudes! Yep - I'm finally going to a real
school after two years at MCC. 15 hours at the University of Florida
seems to be tougher on me than I first thought it would be (hence the 4
o'clock nights), but I hope I can handle it. Also, I'm calling long
distance, so I need to get going. Just wanted to check in and explain
my absence. I'll get back to you when I find a computer to taker over
when I come down to visit (the weekend of the 19th, as a matter of
fact). so long for now.
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From: TIBERIUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: i see
Date & Time: 01/15/91 13:20:11
Message Number 11199
>what it DOESN'T have: no word-whap, no quoting, no full-screen editor,
>no networking capability, no life.
>and best of all, it's FREE
Well, I guess ol' Janis Joplin was right then...."Freedom's just another
word for nothin' left to lose..."
I think I get the hang of the quote system now. Just had to try it out
for myself!!
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/15/91 18:03:01
Message Number 11201
>...who here is up on his Arabic?
Well, other than being 25% Arabic, I wouldn't know diddly about Abdul.
>...ya all ready to tell the nice draft board why you don't wanna go?
Well, I'm kinda pissed that I can't get off for stuttering. I mean
it /is/ a handicap, it's a pain in the ass, and I don't get diddly for
it. We had a discussion about how to get out of the war, and the best
bet was going to visit one of Ken's friends in Barbados.
SIGH....
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: RUFUSCON
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:23:55
Message Number 11202
T> No earthly reason...
No pun intended?
Y'know, actually, what I'm more concerned about is not going 150 miles
an hour, but getting from 0 to 60 in a very, very short time. Grrr.
I can't wait to waste my first Mustang.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: hmmm
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:25:57
Message Number 11203
T>Now, now. Play nice.
Oops. Apologies.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:26:40
Message Number 11204
T> ...doesn't /do/ 6502 machine language programming.
But why not? /I/ do.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Telebit
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:28:15
Message Number 11205
Ahhh. Thanks, at least, for letting me in on the story...
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:29:14
Message Number 11206
Relocating code in memory? No sweat, on an Apple. Just make sure that
your code is less than 2 or 3K...then get Merlin, (the Sourceror)
decompile, translate, re-write, recompile...(make sure that you have
at LEAST 30 or 40 books with cross references to all memory locations
that could possibly exist, and keep track of all your indirect
addressing). Nothing any genuis or Z-System user couldn't do.
Well, I dunno...maybe a Z-System user couldn't.... That might also
explain why one wouldn't.... Hmmm?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: Greetings
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:35:00
Message Number 11207
Welcome.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: BEATLE
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:36:45
Message Number 11208
Vanilla Ice? Vanilla Ice is a *&%#@!! copy cat! I mean, hell,
the song was fairly adequate rap...but please, come up with an original
tune. Too many rappers steal (yes, STEAL STEAL STEAL I meant steal)
words and parts of songs from other famous established artists. Ice
Baby STOLE (STOLE STOLE STOLE) the opening part of "Under Pressure
and I don't care what he says about "Oh, it's different, thiers goes,
Dum Dum Dum DaDaDum Dum and mine goes DaDaDum Dum Dum DaDaDum Dum", it's
just incredibly obvious that it's stolen. How about Hammer? Took from
Rick James "Superfreak" (which was no prize to start with, but it was
/his/) and made a mint! He was nobody before he did that. Vanilla
Ice was nobody before he stole (STOLE STOLE STOLE) from David Bowie
and Queen.
And as long as I'm up here, how about Warrant, "I Saw Red"...bears a
striking resemblance to "I Don't Mind At All"...
"I saw red..." "I don't mind..."
"I guess it must be magic..." "Time for talking's over now, "
(STOLE STOLE STOLE) (Original idea)
Grr. And Ice Baby (oh gimme a break, what a /name/!) doesn't even come
from "Inner City" like he said; what a liar! Liar and thief (THIEF THIE
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: TURTLE
Subject: RULZ
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:49:57
Message Number 11209
Sorry, I just wanted to add something to your post on posting...
I would also like to stress COHERENCE...we had a user who was just short
of completely befuddling when he posted. He lacked any direction or
point to his posts and often confused everyone he posted to. Carrying
on a conversation with him was often futile.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: OPUS
Subject: hey!
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:53:20
Message Number 11210
Well, thanks for the thought, anyway...
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: Huh?
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:55:21
Message Number 11211
UBAFTM - Uncle Bobs Alligator Farm and Tofu Museum
Uh, I really *really* owe you a BIG apology...I confused you with
Erling...SORRY!
A bass player! Ya hear that, guys? JonBoy and the Biohazards...
I used to know a guy who knew someone who was gay who had that nickname,
"Thumper". Three guesses as to how he got that moniker.
I thought that you had attacked the american military (verbally) and
that is one thing that REALLY riles me. (Erling had.) Combined with
that handle (which I had only heard that nickname once before)...I had
plenty of reason...cept I was wrong. Sorry.
What kind of cover music do you prefer?
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: MAX
Subject: Im disgusting
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:04:02
Message Number 11212
Well, I was wrong anyway.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: ALL
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:10:50
Message Number 11213
"...totally obliterated..." - Peter Jennings
"...uh, planes that, um...are in, ah, on....the...ground, ah, er,...
in Saudi Arabia, um..." - Peter Jennings
"...that its completely your call, it's totally up to you, if you want
you can break off from us any time. Its completely your call. [While
the newsman in Saudi Arabia looks around nervously]"... - Peter Jennings
"...to our newsman in Baghdad...can we or can we not...ok, it...er...
seems that the, ah, feed from...er...Baghdad has been, um...cut..."
- Peter Jennings [blink, blink]
Nuke Iran. Now. Quickly. - The Specialist.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: ALL
Subject: Arabic
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:16:58
Message Number 11214
Abdulla Akbar! - Saddam Hussien
(God is Great ... ) Oh, please. Gimme a break. Your god couldn't even
give you a decent climate to live in.
Actually, I can understand why they are all in such a piss poor mood ove
there...if I had to live in the desert with sand up my underwear all the
time I imagine that I'd be pretty pissed a majority of the time.
Y'all ready for the draft? How many of you will be pussies and try to
dodge a draft? How many of you stood outside (or wished your could)
chanting "No blood for oil!"? How many of you like that oldy moldy
(with the mold brushed off) "All we are saying"?
I passed a crowd of protesters today standing in front of that wierd
Ringling sculpture on 41. I wanted to stop and make a sign that said,
Nuke Iran Now! and stand out there next to them. Pinkos.
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From: MAX
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:40:34
Message Number 11215
If you have a machine language program without source code, relocating
it on ANY system is fairly difficult.
As for Z-System, it depends on what source you have the file as.
If it's a Microsoft .REL file (the standard relocating assembler output,
also found for regular CP/M, TRSDOS and MS-DOS), relocating it is
pretty easy.
Of course, you can always write a routine to be relocatable, but the
bigger the routine is, the more difficult it is....
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From: MAX
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Arabic
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:43:23
Message Number 11216
Modern Politics, lesson one: you can support the soldiers without
supporting the government's reason for sending them into battle.
Question for you, Specialist: why is America over there? "No Blood for
Oil" is right, since we only get 5% of our oil from Iraq and Kuwait
combined. We must be fighting for something else. To get Hussein out
of power? Unlikely -- he's been there for quite some time, you know,
and we were tacitly supporting him when Iran was the great enemy. To
"liberate Kuwait"? Why bother? Kuwait was created by a bureaucrat in
Britain, who arbitrarily broke it off of Iran after World War II; they
have a monarchy which has a record on human rights only slightly better
than Iraq's (and a less modern outlook on life than Hussein's); and to
top it all off, they weren't American allies to begin with.
If the premise that we must liberate Kuwait is correct, then attacking
now isn't a bad thing. Hussein's response to sanctions has been to dig
in deeper; his response to all diplomatic entreaties was to tour his
troops and shout jingoistic slogans at American reporters.
The question, therefore, is whether that premise is valid. Those who
disagree with the President are not "pinkos," Dave, and if you honestly
believe that questioning authority is anti-American, you're even more
stuck in the '60s than the most recalcitrant bare-footed, tie-dyed
hippie singing "Give Peace a Chance" in front of the White House.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: BURNEY
Subject: prg
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:02:01
Message Number 11217
Dear Burney,
Ha! Changing the addresses of a machine language program is a lot
more complex than just changing the starting and stopping addresses.
That would be something like changing the line numbers of a BASIC
program without changing the line numbers the GOTO and GOSUBs talk
about... but much, much worse.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: Greetings
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:04:45
Message Number 11218
Well, hello and welcome to you, Tiberius! The only real rules about
the debates here: attack ideas, not individuals. And no peeing in the
pool.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THUMPER 1
Subject: smurfs
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:09:30
Message Number 11219
Send the smurfs to Riyadh! Make THEM fight our war for us!
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TURTLE
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:14:21
Message Number 11220
Actually, one of the best things to do if you ARE drafted, want to
stay entirely within the law, and want to have a really fun time
with the U.S. government...
If and when a draft shows up, and if your name comes up, and you
don't have a good excuse not to sign up, sign up with LOTS and LOTS
of draft boards. As many as you possibly can. It might be illegal to
not show up if you're drafted, but they can't stop an over-ambitious
person, can they?
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: RUFUS
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:19:12
Message Number 11221
(Aren't you on of us one-eyed folk? That's sufficient.) Barbados is
a nice island, but I still have lots of friends in Mexico.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:21:05
Message Number 11222
There are some programs which make relocating code easier... but it's
never a really easy process.
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:23:10
Message Number 11223
Nuke Iran?!? So far THEY haven't done anything!!!
/Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Arabic
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:24:00
Message Number 11224
Hi, there! I was one of those protesters, further up on 41. You might
have seen my sign: "Give sanctions six more months!"
I doubt anyone could call me "pinko." I've worked for the Senate
Republican Conference for three months. I just feel that the U.S.
could have saved itself a lot of truble by keeping the sanctions for
another six months -- and letting Iraqis destroy the Iraqi government.
/Dragonfly/
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/17/91 06:59:11
Message Number 11225
> ya all ready to tell the nice draft board why you don't wanna go?
I'm all ready to show the draft board that I'd suck at any position
they'd put me at as a land soldier. But, if they don't mind training me
to use the technology, I wouldn't mind.
But, don't you think you're exaggerating when you say "looks like
we're gonna see the third world war in our lifetimes, kiddies"?? Are you
THAT sure this is going to become WWIII??
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From: BEATLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/17/91 07:03:31
Message Number 11226
> I wouldn't know diddly about Abdul...
Forget it... I was trying to relate Paula Abdul to that, and I dunno
how...
BTW, did you know they sent "wild weasels" out to Iraq last night??
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/17/91 07:06:25
Message Number 11227
I share your sentiments, but I never saw anyone express them that way
... you've proved that it pissed you off, for sure!!
BTW, two facts that you might want to add to your databank on this
topic. A) M.C. Hammer (at least one of the better rappers) has been
paying royalties to Rick James for the use of "SuperFreak". B) Vanilla
Ice has at least three different mixes of "Ice Ice Baby", and depending
on which one you hear, there is a varying amount of sampled music from
the song. One version even takes an extended part from "Under Pressure"
(at least 10 seconds)
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From: BEATLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/17/91 07:11:32
Message Number 11228
> [various quotes from] - Peter Jennings
> Nuke Iran. Now. Quickly. - The Specialist.
First of all, I've found that while ABC's coverage has been reasonably
comprehensive (they were the first to report it also), the whole thing
has been REALLY hectic and Peter Jennings is NOT handling it well.
Second of all, I talked to someone about what was going on in Iraq.
Someone else asked why not drop nuclear bombs. If the fallout were to
drift in any direction, it's going to infuriate some country or it's
going to kill our troops. BTW, did you actually mean "Nuke Iran." or did
you mean Iraq?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: I'm Back
Date & Time: 01/17/91 18:46:42
Message Number 11229
Hi, Scott Steel is back. Ihear that Erling, and others have been
looking for a fight. Well.
HAVE AT YOU !!!!
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: MAX
Subject: Addictions.
Date & Time: 01/17/91 18:53:39
Message Number 11230
M> Depends on the cat in question.....
I bet you like Siamese cats. I mean, consider the challenge they love
to fight. And no, that's not the voice of experience so don't even
start with that twisted mind of yours. Besides I don't like cats.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TURTLE
Subject: Addictions.
Date & Time: 01/17/91 18:57:42
Message Number 11231
T>Hey, YOU thought of it! Do you always think of sex when someone
mentions cat addictions?
I think of sex constantly. An addiction maybe. But not necessarily
for cats. Why do you have any (cat) skeletons in your closet?
Are you going to let the cat out of the bag?
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: WAR
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:08:50
Message Number 11232
Rufus you're just chicken. PERIOD. Any questions? I think I'll just
refer to you as Rufus DD, Rufus Draft Dodger.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: 440 Engines
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:11:42
Message Number 11233
Well maybe you can now waste 4 cylinders but you still need work on
that car of yours.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Arabic
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:17:58
Message Number 11234
Go you... Yesterday I saw the first five seconds of the /new/ version
of Give Peace a Chance" That is before I changed the channel. But
maybe Hussien will come to his sense and even release a song of his own
"Give Me a Chance"
Here let's see if I can help you see it..
Give Me a Chance
All I am saying is give me a chance.
All I am saying is give me a chance.
Everybody's talking Sanctions, and oil, and Kuwait,
talking about factions, chemical warfare, and other dumb shit.
And the U.S. is talking bombings, retreats, and terrorism.
All I am saying is we have given Iraq enough time to cooperate with the
sanctions. He's robbed Kuwait of billions dollars of gold, taken
traffic signals and toilets. Tortured the men and raped the women.
Everybody cries No Blood for Oil and that we have no right being there.
Well he had no right to ransack Kuwait.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: smurfs
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:37:09
Message Number 11235
D> Send the smurfs to Riyadh! Make THEM fight our war for us!
Well, in the first place the smurfs can't even rid themselves of a
bumbling idoit named Gergamel.
But on the other hand they probably /would/ fight better than you.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:42:46
Message Number 11236
D> Nuke Iran?!?
Well that was probably a typo but the Specialist still can spell "their"
right either. But if we targeted the warhead right we could take them
both out with one shot. Effective and cost efficient.. What a bargain!
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: MAX
Subject: Arabic
Date & Time: 01/17/91 20:02:18
Message Number 11237
First lesson: Loose your patronizing attitude, and you might find me
much more receptive to your reasoning.
Why are we in Kuwait? Couple of reasons. First, naked aggression, left
unchecked, could be disastrous later down the road. Second, I don't
know if you are aware of it, but this is a free country...naturally, we
hate to see other countries get subjected to dictatorship. (That is,
at least, *I* do. I don't know if *you* give a damn.) This Hussein,
he is dangerous.
Actually, I am not so concerned about Kuwait and it's lot as much as
I am about Hussein. This is not to say that I don't care about Kuwait,
I *do*. But I am more concerned about Hussein. Kuwait, while not
extremely humanitarian in it's own right, doesn't use chemical weapons
indiscriminately, and doesn
indiscriminately, and doesn't go around invading other countries.
Besides, the man is incredibly arrogant. (That's my personal opinion,
and yes, it's another of *my* reasons why he should be neutralized.)
And of course, there is the humanitarian issue. Brutal, yes. The
man is simply a cold bastard. He is a king of propoganda, and runs a
puppet parliment. He is is own administration. He takes over Kuwait,
simply for the sake of doing so, and then claims that it belonged to him
to begin with! Bull! That'd be like England reclaiming all the states
on the east coast, and saying that they belonged to them. Bull.
Pinkos. The term is "Ad Hominem". Actually, I used the term because
I wanted to insult the people who were there, and that seemed the mose
(SP most) fitting I could find. Those people didn't support the
government. Why not?
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From: RUFUS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/17/91 22:51:30
Message Number 11238
>(Aren't you on of use one-eyed folk?)
Nope, I represent the speech impaired section of the furry group.
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From: RUFUS
To: BEATLE
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/17/91 22:53:43
Message Number 11239
Abdul is just your stereotypical Arab name, kinda like Tyrone for
afro-americans. Yes, I was aware that they have "Wild Weasels" in
the middle east. It's a recon plane if I'm not mistaken. Four or
five people told me that. I guess my fascination with the weasel has
gotten around. What's even neater is the F-111 Aardvark.
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From: RUFUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: WAR
Date & Time: 01/17/91 22:59:17
Message Number 11240
>Rufus, you're just chicken. PERIOD.
Actually, my comments about going to Barbados were only half-hearted,
and I'm always joking about my stuttering, so you probably interpreted
the message in a way that it wasn't met to be. Regarding actually
going, I really don't know if I could kill someone. In self-defense
sure, but would that always be the case?
>Any questions?
Is this on any topic, or the war in particular?
>I think I'll just refer to you as Rufus DD, Rufus Draft Dodger.
Umm...okay. But I don't see those prematurly pointing fingers
signing up to go over there.
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From: RUFUS
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:05:28
Message Number 11241
>But if we targeted the [nuclear] warhead right we could take them
>both out with one shot. Effective and cost efficient.. What a bargain!
Yep, and with it you get free fallout, /and/ several million tons of
glass. But don't order yet, just look what else you get...
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: WAR
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:19:55
Message Number 11242
R>But I don't see those prematurely pointing fingers signing up to go
over there.
True, like you, to a degree, I am also 'handicapped' to an extent I have
a torn ligament in my spinal cord. Which means they won't take me.
I'd be medically profiled as unable to perform certain duties, and
therefore disqualified. But if I could go, I would. My older brother
is in the Navy. I also would enlist for the Navy if I could. No I would
not want to be a ground-pounder.
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:25:39
Message Number 11243
R>Yep, and with it you get free fallout,/and/ several millions tons of
glass. But don't order yet, just look what else you get...
THAT RIGHT! Along with these other fine bonuses you retardation,
mutatios, and possibly help China lower their population. (China has
one of the biggest population problems in the world.) Tells Dan Rufus
(Rather) what other prizes follow. (Hahahahaha Smart-ass sneer)
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From: SCOTT STEEL
To: TIBERIUS
Subject: Orig. of handle
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:40:37
Message Number 11244
Tiberius welcome to aLTER rEALITY. Where did you get your handle or is
that your real name? Tiberius sounds familiar, like it came from STAR
TREK or STAR TREK :TNG.
And again welcome. Word to the wise; if you're going to debate an issue
make sure you know what you're talking about. I can tell you from
experience, it's not good to throw caution to the wind and not be able
to back yourself up. As a follow BBSer advised me once. If you going
to argue with someone, do it right. Make sure you knock them into the
mud, it's awful hard to hit back when you're busy picking yourself
up off the ground. Good Advice if you ask me. Good luck.
*Scott Steel*
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Earth stuff
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:13:06
Message Number 11245
>No pun intended?
What on earth makes you think that? :>
>I can't wait to waste my first Mustang.
It's not like you don't have twice as much engine as your average
Mustang. Oh, boy.
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:14:13
Message Number 11246
>But why not?
Because I like to have REGISTERS to play with, and a decently-sized
instruction set? The 6502 just doesn't do it for me...
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: BBS
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:15:13
Message Number 11247
>...maybe a Z-System user couldn't...
This particular Z-System user has done just that, without the aid of
a disassembler. Hmph.
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Various
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:16:22
Message Number 11248
Hey, don't hold back, now. What do you REALLY think about Vanilla Ice?
You're not trying to imply a cerain lack of respect for their habit of
borrowing other people's music, are you? (Rap is a peculiar musical
parasite, but at least it's not even interesting to listen to...)
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: war!
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:18:24
Message Number 11249
>Nuke Iran. Now. Quickly.
Yeah, good idea. Maybe we should take out Iraq while we're at it.
Seriously, though, I'm not entirely convinced that that's such a
good idea...not only would it get everyone in the region really pissed
off at us, it'd also make us the A-1 target of every would-be terrorist
and crazy Iraqi with a bomb and a desire to die for Allah, and it
doesn't take too many maniacs with bombs in their backpacks to take
down Wall Street or blow people up in Times Square...
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Arabic
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:21:15
Message Number 11250
>H
ow manyu of you will be pussies and try to dodge the draft?
Meow! There is a big difference between being willing to fight for
your country and being willing to fight for the Emir of Kuwait's
country. Kuwait can go to Hell; I don't see the need to play bad cop
to Bush's good cop and blow up every two-bit foreign dictator with an
attitude. Get serious. If Saddam is truly the worst monster to come down
the pike since Ho Chi Mihn, I guess our illustrious government (you
know, the government that all patriotic Americans KNOW can do no wrong
and should ALWAYS be supported in EVERYTHING it does) shouldn't have
created him in the first place, hmm? I'm not gonna put my life on the
line for some Emir, and I'm not gonna put my life on the line because
our government found it convenient to support some goddamn maniac
like Hussein and is finding him inconvenient now.
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: So tell me...
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:31:27
Message Number 11251
Hey, Beatle, this situation is ALREADY a world war. Yes, we're gonna see
a third world war in our lifetimes. And what's more, we can watch it
live on CNN.
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From: TURTLE
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: Addictions.
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:33:21
Message Number 11252
>Why do you have any (cat) skeletons in your closet?
No. I'd like to have Nastassia Kinski in my closet, and she played a
werecat in the movie "Cat People," but that's about as close as it
gets. (Actually I'd like to have Nastassia Kinski almost anywhere; I'm
not particular.)
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From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: Arabic
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:35:58
Message Number 11253
>Second, I don't know if you are aware of it, but this is a free
>country...naturally we hate to see other countries that are not
>democratic.