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From: TURTLE
To: SAURON
Subject: Hard Drives
Date & Time: 04/29/90 20:50:48
Message Number 4051
A 40ms hard drive is fine for a BBS that probably isn't going to be
transmitting stuff at more than 2400 baud to begin with, but I suspect
for anything else it would become rather annoying rather quickly--
particularly since AmigaDOS never was noted for its speed even in the
best of circumstances. I'd say if the trade-up to a faster hard drive
were available for the small price Tyler was talking about, it'd
probably be worth the investment.
Of course, I also have an inherent distrust of hard drives from the
start...
--A floppy Turtle
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From: TURTLE
To: SCOTT E
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 04/29/90 20:55:11
Message Number 4052
People don't deserve respect for the amount of money they make;
people deserve respect because they earn it. Pee Wee's income doesn't
impress me any more than his infantile humor or his amazing lack of
acting ability.
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From: TURTLE
To: JONBOY
Subject: Z stuff
Date & Time: 04/29/90 20:59:44
Message Number 4053
Ghi! My sympathies; turnkey menu software is bad enough on a micro,
but on something like a Vax it's obscene.
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From: TURTLE
To: JONBOY
Subject: Hacker stuff
Date & Time: 04/29/90 21:02:33
Message Number 4054
>Assembly is only efficient if you stay away from macros and if you
>program anything of serious size you /will/ use macros...
Not me! I do everything in straight assembly, no macros, nuttin'.
I write two thousand line routines without macros...'course I do
have to maintain my reputation as a masochist, so maybe that's it.
--A self-abusive Turtle
I do, in fact, have 6ms floppies. Trouble is, I have a really good CP/M
C compiler that was written with a Cromemco machine under C-DOS,
using some funky double-sided format that none of my alien disk format
utilities can recognize (it claims to be standard C-DOS DSDD but it
ain't, so I can't get to it...and I don't even have access to the
Cromemco machine that wrote the floppies in the first place). Such is
life, mine at least.
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From: ANGEL
To: WHOMEVER
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 04/29/90 23:35:39
Message Number 4055
Just a message to say "Hello" to everyone. I haven't signed on in
awhile and am behind in the gossip. If anyone has any really good
dirt, post it.
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From: SCOTT E
To: TURTLE
Subject: money
Date & Time: 04/30/90 06:51:30
Message Number 4056
well unfortunately I am money hungry, and If someone makes a lot of
money doing something legal then I respect them. I do not care if
they earn it or not. If I could be given a million dollars for
no reason I wouldn't feel any worse then if I had earned it. That
is just the way I am. A little greedy I guess., but oh well. see yaaaa
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From: SCOTT E
To: KEN OBER
Subject: puked invaders
Date & Time: 04/30/90 06:57:01
Message Number 4057
I gotta tell ya Ken. This movie was kinda dumb. It kinda reminded me
of the evre popular Meatballs 2. You mean you didn't see that. too bad.
Well the movie wasn't too bad, most Disney movies are okay. I think
they should spend their money a little wiser though on movie ideas. You
know maybe like SNOW WHITE DOES THE SEVEN DWARFS, OR MAYBE ALICE'S DEEP
THROAT. But hey those are just my ideas. All kidding aside, it's not
quite TMNT but it holds your interest and you'll even laugh a few times
especially with the quiptic quotes they seem to come up with.
seeee yaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: DONTHEN
Subject: ROAD RALLY
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:08:58
Message Number 4058
>If radar detectors were illegal, do you think you could walk in to
>K-mart or Radio Shack and pick one up?
In a word, yes. Although radar detectors (I believe) are technically
illegal, as far as I know, there is no punishment for owning one. As
I said, there was a compromize in Congress: to raise the speed limit to
65, radar detectors had to go.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: KEN OBER
Subject: God...
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:11:54
Message Number 4059
>All our laws are /not/ really laws at all...
What laws are you thinking of? The "classical" laws of Physics have
been known to be falso for over a hundred years. They're just really
good approximations. Quantum physics says that any "laws" one comes up
with -- no matter how accurate -- can ONLY be good approximations.
The physical laws never were laws. Ever.
Going back to metaphysics, God, and all, yeah -- our conception of
God is very much based on Roman ideas. If Star Trek stole from Roman
mythology, they might have also stolen from Judeo-Christian ideas.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: THRUD
Subject: Am I here?
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:15:34
Message Number 4060
(Taking a look at the time of your message.) Methinks thou didst
behold the Crack of Dawn. Melikes young hobbits. They makes wonderful
breakfastses.
<Gollum, gollum>
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: TURTLE
Subject: Missiles
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:21:42
Message Number 4062
>I'd prefer to spend it on something that doesn't go "Ffffffft!"
Ya mean a VAX doesn't hum?
Now, come on, Turtle -- you don't think a small Stinger missile
might not slow down the Airport problem for a short while? At least
it would make the pilots REAL nervous.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: TURTLE
Subject: Religion...
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:24:25
Message Number 4063
>It doesn't make any sense to talk about the time before the universe
>because in a very real sense time did not exist before the universe
>did.
Right. Time requires matter to exist. Without matter, no time.
Singularities (like the matter before the Big One) aren't really matter.
Okay. Gotcha.
Love fragments. Good device. Grunts. Use 'em later.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:27:18
Message Number 4064
>And what about the theory that the planets are just atomic particles
>in a very very very large other system.
Uhhh..... right. There are similarities between atomic particles
and electrons (they both revolve around something in the center),
but there are HUGE differences:
1. Electrons are "fuzzy" in the sense that they don't really exist
in any one place. They're more wave than particle. (Look up
De Broglie (sp?) for more info.) Planets, so far as I can tell,
are solid -- and not spread out.
2. Planets seem to keep to the rule: one planet, one orbit.
In the first orbit, atoms have two orbits, then they have six
orbits, then ten. (Unless they're excited -- which I'm not
getting into.)
3. An atom is unstable when it has more electrons than protons.
(Generally.) This solar system has nine (or more) planets;
one "proton" (of a sun.) In a miniaturized world, this would
be H-9 -- a REAL bitch of an element to find. (One person, a
Wally B. Whatnot, once claimed to have found it. He also claimed
to know Bigfoot personally, and called UFO people "some of his
best friends.)
On the other hoof, it's real likely that any chemical laws of that
"superuniverse" above us are completely different than any laws down
here -- so all of my arguments might flop completely. But, I hope not.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: Godtalk
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:38:15
Message Number 4065
Shoot everyone who disagrees with you?
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: ACAPULCO
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:38:46
Message Number 4066
>If I said Ted Bundy was from Sarasota, would you automatically offer
>him respect?
Yup.
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: DELPHI
Subject: Godtalk
Date & Time: 04/30/90 07:51:00
Message Number 4067
Dear Delphi,
Okay. I'm understanding you, now. Here are my beliefs, agreements,
and disagreements.
I believe that although spirit is tied to matter, it is separatable
from matter. A dead person -- so far as I can tell -- has no spirit
remaining to animate him.
Again, I believe in the separation of the Godhood from the universe
itself. If I read you correctly, do you deify existance? That is, is
the sum total of life the god that there is?
Whether or not other planes exist -- to me seems an insolvable
problem, given the technology we have now. I can't prove they exist; I
can't prove they don't exist. I will believe in them when I have some
sort of proof: either a creature from another plane stops here and
does something which is inexplicable otherwise -- or, one of us visits
another plane -- or, the need for alternate planes of reality is shown
by a physicist to explain phenomina. I can see no conceivable way to
prove they don't exist -- but I don't consider that sufficient to believ
in them.
As I've mentioned innumerable times before, I'm a born-again
Christian -- and a little conservative in terms of my definition of
Deity. But, I seek out people who disagree with me -- to help me
define myself and my God further. (Yup! Disagree. When someone agrees
with you, they're not likely to search very deeply within your logic
for errors.) It sounds as if you're a very intelligent person, and I'd
love to contnue discussing philosohy and religion with you.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: ANGEL
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 04/30/90 08:03:59
Message Number 4068
>If anyone has any really good dirt, post it.
Well, horse apples aren't usually welcome on any system...
\/ /
Chip P. Unicorn
oo
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From: KEN OBER
To: ALL
Subject: Good News!
Date & Time: 04/30/90 12:43:16
Message Number 4069
I have sold my 128D for $300! Cowabunga, dudes! This be really awesome
I guess I have enough money for my Hard Drive now, so look forward to
the new BBS pretty soon!
-Ken Ober-
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 04/30/90 16:12:57
Message Number 4071
I know, it was stupid. It was REAL stupid, but some stupidity is quite
amusing sometimes... About walking out, I didn't walk out on anything
ever, but I do remember a man walking out on "Great Balls of Fire" (I
don't blame him) and he left too late. The movie ended two minutes later
... He mumbled something like "This was shit, I want my money back".
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From: BEATLE
To: SCOTT E
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 04/30/90 16:16:39
Message Number 4072
I think I found "Police Academy 6" the worst movie of the decade. I
might sit through another PA film, but not a single one of 'em twice.
That's saying something, too, because I can stand just about anything. I
actually enjoyed watching "Private School" and "Howard the Duck".
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From: BEATLE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Religion...
Date & Time: 04/30/90 16:22:45
Message Number 4073
> This is usually not a good assumption...
I agree.
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From: BEATLE
To: KEN OBER
Subject: God...
Date & Time: 04/30/90 16:24:03
Message Number 4074
> So Go is like that Giant Roman dude in that one Star Trek episode...
I hope you realize how inane that statement is.
Well, I guess it might not be stupid, but it sounds odd. If you really
want to make your point, say something serious. For instance, someone
today told me about a film that shows the fetus trying to avoid an
abortion. It sounds scary enough to convert a pro-choicer to a pro-lifer
... (I didn't see the film though)
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From: BEATLE
To: DONTHEN
Subject: article
Date & Time: 04/30/90 16:34:30
Message Number 4075
Never thought of that (why, I wonder)... Out of 13 types my friend and
I created, only three are about local furries (one on Bart, one on
Turtle, and one on Tyler's lounge lizard)... the others go something
like these:
Rodenta Chipndalus (biped talking chipmunks)
Felinus Tomus (silent cats)
Felinus Sylvesterus (talking cats)
Felinus Emceeskatus (rapping cats)
There, I figure everyone would get those! (By the way, I assume that
other people in other states know what Rufuses are since there was one
in Mythagoras)...
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From: BEATLE
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: Movies????
Date & Time: 04/30/90 16:41:16
Message Number 4076
Why be ashamed? TMNT actually was a good movie. Not the best of the
year by far, no heavy symbolism or drama, but it was entertaining. I
also got the feeling that the appeal to older filmgoers is that this
film isn't taking itself seriously, even though the kids do...
SPACED INVADERS? Well, I REALLY want to see it. If it has funny jokes,
good, but if it falls flat, send it back to Mars.
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From: BEATLE
To: SCOTT E
Subject: call the doctor
Date & Time: 04/30/90 16:44:18
Message Number 4077
First of all, don't trust that review! The idiot has the film confused
with the add campaign. If you watch the commercial carefully, it isn't
Spring Break, it's Halloween!
I myself wouldn't feel ashamed walking into any movie. I would go see
a cartoon or an R rated film with the same state of mind. Or should I
rephrase: a G or R rated film.
I intend to see "Fantasia" when it is re-released. Any animation
people out there want to make a party or something out of it? I know a
lot of us are into animation.
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From: KEN OBER
To: ALL
Subject: * HA! *
Date & Time: 04/30/90 17:04:36
Message Number 4078
FROM THE JUNE ISSUE OF AMIGA WORLD MAGAZINE: Specs on the /very/
recently released Amiga 300 computer....
o 68030/882 @ 25 MHz
o Amiga Enhanced Chip Set (ECS)
o 1 meg Chip RAM expandable to 2 megs on board
o 1 meg Fast RAM expandable to:
4 Megs on motherboard w/ 256 * 4 DRAMS
16 Megs on motherboard w/ 1K * 4 DRAMS
o Built-In Display Enhancer (eliminates interlace flicker)
o Internal SCSI Hard Drive (40 Megs Std. -- 100 Megs Opt.)
o Internal Real-Time Clock w/ RAM
o 4 New Zorro III Expansion Slots (Downward Compat. w/ A2000)
o 1 CPU expansion connector (200-Pin w/ processor-takeover capability)
o External expansion connectors
23-pin Amiga video (15.75 KHz typical)
15-pin VGA-style video (31.5 KHz typical)
External SCSI connector
o 32-Bit access to on-board ROM
o 32-bit CPU access to chip RAM
o 32-bit fast-RAM support Custom Controller supporting static-column
mode DRAMs and allowing CPU burst access to RAM
o 32-bit DMA-based on-board SCSI controller
o Low-profile case supporting total of three 3.5" drives
o Front-mounted power switch
o Easier disk-drive installation and removal
o Hardware and software support for 60Hz video on European machines
The computer is packaged with AmigaDOS 2.0 (With a "NeXT Look")
1.7 Gigabytes of RAM total
1280 x 400 maximum resolution
PRICES: Amiga 3000 (25MHz/40 MB) -- $3999
Amiga 3000 (25MHz/100 MB) -- $4499
Amiga 3000 (16MHz/40 MB) -- $3299
A1950 Monitor (For New Graphics Modes) -- $799
A2060 ARCNET Card -- $229
A2065 Ethernet Card -- $349
A 40 Mhz version of the A3000 is on the way to compete with the new
486 IBM's and MAC II FX's...
It also has a TURBO IBM XT card availible -- No word on UNIX, tho...
-Ken Ober-
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From: CRYSTAL
To: ANGEL
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 04/30/90 17:45:00
Message Number 4079
Hello Angel, It is nice to have you back. I guess the only real
gossip has to do with computers, and we all know I know nothing about
that. But hello anyway.
* CRYSTAL *
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From: CRYSTAL
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Radar Detectors
Date & Time: 04/30/90 17:48:44
Message Number 4080
Chip, you need to get a radar detector.
* CRYSTAL *
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: ALL
Subject: The Shadow
Date & Time: 04/30/90 18:09:22
Message Number 4081
The Shadow's back up folks, 23hrs a day (Don't call between four and
five am, that's Fidonet Mail Hour)
(813) 359-1717 I'll be getting whatever interesting echo's I can find,
but call now, and get some discussions going!
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From: DELPHI
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: godtalk
Date & Time: 04/30/90 18:20:40
Message Number 4082
As far as denominational affiliation, I'm a Unitarian Universalist,
which means we honor the basic worth and dignity of everyone, but other
than that we have no creed. We ask questions. We are seekers of the
truth. Mostly, we seek diversity. That's why I found a philosophical/
spiritual home there -- there's no set dogma and questioning is
encouraged.
So, as for god/goddess, my feeling is that the god-consciousness is
greater than the sum of the parts (all of existence), but not a separate
entity or being. I believe we all (even Plato's chairs) have some of
this god-essence in ourselves and perhaps that this essence is the spark
that gives us both connectedness with the spiritual and independent free
will.
Other planes, which I prefer to call dimensions, aren't that relevant
since we live in this one, although I do believe they exist. I never
considered why because that didn't Maybe it's worth
thinking about...
What was next? Well, I suppose you'll remindr (problem keyboard)
remind me. It's good to have dialog about things philosophical, altho
I may be a bit radical for you depending on your view of Christianity.
Have you ever read any work by Mary Daly?
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 04/30/90 19:55:05
Message Number 4084
Say hello to the nihilists??
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: TURTLE
Subject: Hard Drives
Date & Time: 04/30/90 19:59:18
Message Number 4085
Whether a 40ms drive will bother you depends upon a few things:
1. Whether you plan to run a defagg'r on the drive semi-regularly
2. What the data transfer rate is.
I've got a Miniscribe 40Mbyte (when used w/ MFM) drive that's running
on an Adaptec RLL controller.. The Average track to track seek is about
60ms, but the Data Transfer Rate is 10Mb/S (That's bits, not Bytes)
If I don't run an Optimizer for a few weeks, I'll start to notice.. but
now frontdoor does a maintenance event every day, and defrags both
partitions.. if it's ms or Megs... go for Megs!!
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: SCOTT E
Subject: money
Date & Time: 04/30/90 20:04:51
Message Number 4086
I respect people more if they make their money illegally w/o hurting
anyone.. more challenge!
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: ROAD RALLY
Date & Time: 04/30/90 20:05:57
Message Number 4087
You're wrong Chip!!! Some states (/Without/ consent from the FCC have
made Radar Detectors illegal.. It is /not/ a federal law, and oversteps
the State's jurisdiction. You /can/ listen to the radio all you want!
- Corwyn
P.S. All radar detectors sold in the US have been Certified By the FCC!
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 04/30/90 20:10:12
Message Number 4088
as to 2. Planets seem to keep to the rule: one planet, one orbit.
Have you ever tried to observe a planet from a higher level of
galactic magnitude.. moot point.
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Godtalk
Date & Time: 04/30/90 20:11:30
Message Number 4089
I was in a bad mood.. actually you could just shoodt Berggren and I'd
be OK.
- Corwyn
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From: RICHARD
To: KEN OBER
Subject: TURTLE POWER!
Date & Time: 04/30/90 20:48:20
Message Number 4090
I saw it, took my grandchildern, I
enjoy it a lot more then I through
I would..:)
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: ROAD RALLY
Date & Time: 04/30/90 21:09:18
Message Number 4093
>NO amount of stealth material, radar jammers...can stop that...
Yea, but a missle would do the job.
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From: RUFUS
To: RAVEN
Subject: Gee.....
Date & Time: 04/30/90 21:16:35
Message Number 4094
I'd be more concerned about the strength of the apartment. Those
mainframes are just a wee bit heavy.
===========
From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Anarchy Now
Date & Time: 04/30/90 21:19:29
Message Number 4095
>...who used to take an E-tool to Ft. Lauderdale Beach with him and dig
>tank traps...
What's an E-tool?
===========
From: RUFUS
To: ANGEL
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 04/30/90 21:46:12
Message Number 4096
Welcome back to the wonderful (?) world of BBS land. I have some
really good dirt, but it's in the front yard. Posting it would be the
death blow to our sickly grass.
...anyone wanna help me seal all the sprinkler systems around town?
===========
From: RUFUS
To: BEATLE
Subject: article
Date & Time: 04/30/90 21:55:06
Message Number 4097
>Felinus Tomus (silent cats)
I /think/ Tom may have talked in a few of the cartoons (someone wanna
confirm this?)
>know what Rufuses are...
Errr, like there's only one Rufus. Rufus is just your standard human
with a few modifications (the tail and the arm, along with some other
'small' features). Rufus' offspring would be normal, since the tail
was grafted on. It was not a result of genetic modification (not on
the part of Rufus anyways).
...I'm going to bed, my English skills are breaking down again.
===========
From: RUFUS
To: ALL
Subject: Road Rally
Date & Time: 04/30/90 22:10:01
Message Number 4098
So, what are the final plans for the Road Rally? Information like
when it starts, where it starts, and the approx. time to complete the
course would be real useful.
If anyone wants to tag along with Zot Gnop and me your welcome to.
...shotgun!
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From: TURTLE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: ROAD RALLY
Date & Time: 04/30/90 23:32:00
Message Number 4101
A definite statement: Radar detectors are not illegal nationwide. No
way, no how. A couple of states outlawed them when those states raised
their speed limits, and in those states you cannot purchase radar
detectors. In most states, including Florida, posession, sale, and
use of radar detectors is neither prohibited nor controlled. Sorry,
but to whomever told you Congress made 'em illegal: It just ain't
so. How do I know? Simple. I asked a cop who pulled through
drive-through.
--A practical Turtle
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Not Pee Wee
Date & Time: 04/30/90 23:36:57
Message Number 4102
>It [Pee-Wee's Big Adventure] was REAL stupid, but some stupidity is
>quite amusing sometimes...
I agree wholeheartedly. Trouble is, Pee-Wee doesn't qualify. "Maximum
Overdrive," for example, was a wonderfully stupid movie that I laughed
wholeheartedly at--at least until I realized that it wasn't intended as
a parody of horror movies. On the other hand, there's only so much
of Pee-Wee Herman's juvenile humor I can take without losing my lunch.
--An unamused Turtle
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Fantasia
Date & Time: 04/30/90 23:42:12
Message Number 4103
I am planning to see Fantasia...oh, about six or seven hundred times
when it's re-released. I bet Fox, Wratt, Donthen, and in fact most
of the local furry crowd probably feels the same way, so it sounds
like a potential centerpiece for a furry party or two.
--A furry Turtle
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From: TURTLE
To: KEN OBER
Subject: * HA! *
Date & Time: 04/30/90 23:44:23
Message Number 4104
According to a Unix hacker in my Compilers class, the Amiga 3000
is supposed to ship with Unix System V+ (Bell Labs Unix 5.4) as
well as AmigaDOS 2.0. It's also supposed to ship with yacc, uucp,
Open Look, XWindows, and a few other goodies, at least according to
one magazine article I've seen. What was your source of information,
and did it mention the Unix side of the A3000 at all? (At one point
I even heard rumours that AmigaDOS 2.0 was going to run as a satellite
task under Unix on the A3000, but that's probably apocrypha.) If
the thing /does/ ship with Unix, it'd almost be sufficient to make me
choose the 40MHz version of the 3000 over, say, a DECstation 2100
or Sun SPARCstation I if I'm ever in the market for a Unix
workstation...
--An Amigaphile Turtle
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From: TURTLE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: FIDO stuff
Date & Time: 04/30/90 23:50:58
Message Number 4105
Do you have a FIDO node number yet? Who's the official net host for
this area now? Who, if anyone, is responsible for the local echo
feeds? Are you sure you want to do that? What is the meaning of life?
Is the Amiga version of Binkley as obscenely large as the IBM version
and as bad as the Atari ST version? Does anybody care?
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Anarchy Now
Date & Time: 04/30/90 23:59:38
Message Number 4106
An E-Tool is a U.S. Army Entrenching Tool. It's a really neat fold-up
shovel that is impressively well-designed, and really effective
too.
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: TURTLE
Subject: John Cage
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:10:14
Message Number 4107
Turtle- Too bad you missed the concert last Friday night. They
performed a Cage piece which almost compared to a Turtle spew.
Bicycles, salad, anarchistic slogans, exercise, and feedback loops.
All at once! (Not to mention religion, shoving people out of their
seats, and men in long, white coats.) Beatuiful music!
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: BEATLE
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:13:49
Message Number 4108
Personally, I found "Police Academy 6" to be a stirring film that
filled one's heart with joy, and plumbing the depths of worlds of
pathos. I was truly shocked and surprised when it did not win Oscars
in every category. In fact...
You're not buying this BS, are you?
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: BEATLE
Subject: God...
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:17:34
Message Number 4109
>Someone told me today about a film that shows the fetus trying to
>avoid an abortion.
I've heard about that film, myself -- every year at my Christian
high school, some of the teachers tried to get it shown at one of our
chapels. It was usually turned down by the administration.
Face it: abortions are NOT pretty. Even the hardest pro-choicer will
admit (with a little prodding) that you're killing life, and that you're
killing life that could become human when you abort a fetus. As I said
before, I oppose BOTH the pro-life and the pro-choice groups: neither
tries to solve the underlying problem: How can we keep abortions from
being necessary?
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: BEATLE
Subject: call the doctor
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:23:01
Message Number 4110
Beatle,
When Fantasia is re-released, wild humans couldn't stop me from
seeing it.
Chip P. Unicorn
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: Radar Detectors
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:24:17
Message Number 4111
My beautiful Crystal-
Perhaps. But, think about the Green Thing. Can it actually break
the sped limit?
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: DELPHI
Subject: godtalk
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:27:05
Message Number 4112
Dear Delphi,
Please: don't worry about being radical. Several close friends are
Wiccan, and one of my closest is a Caballist.
To be a seeker of the Truth is a worthwhile occupation, indeed.
However, it's really difficult to know the Truth about God. As one
athiest said (I'm not sure whom): the finite cannot pierce the infinite.
In other words, our mortal minds could not conceive of the complexity
of God -- whether that God be the whole of existence, or that God be
the "outside of the universe but interacting" one that I espouse.
Now that we seem to be communicating, we can begin to create our
own language to make things a bit easier. From now on, I'll refer to
"Adonai" (though I'm not Jewish) when I refer to the Christian concept
of a God outside of space who interacts with the universe. (To make
things really simple.) Could you do the same for the concept of the
whole of creation as a deity? (Something similar to "Nature" or
"Cosmos," perhaps?)
It's really unfortunate that "dogma" has such negative connotations.
I've learned in mathematics that without assumptions, nothing (well --
very little) can be proven. (From no assumptions, you can prove either
Adonai exists or He does not. But not which one.) To me, dogma are
merely the common grounds among a religious group: they shouldn't be
thought of as boulders, and the completed works of God, but as stepping
stones or building blocks to a fuller understanding of God. With no
foundation, the house sinks: no meaningful questions can be asked when
people don't share similar beliefs. Only when there's a common, stable
base can the building be erected: only when there's a common, stable
base can there be a church.
I'm curious: if it's the "spark" of the universe that gives us free
will, why was it distributed so much more to certain entities (humanity,
dogs, banana plants) than others (rocks, earth, moondust)? What, in
these forms attracted the life force so strongly -- or what repelled
<Continued next message>
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: DELPHI
Subject: godtalk
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:46:43
Message Number 4113
<continued from previous message>
this life force so strongly from other entities? I don't see the signs
of life within rocks as I do within people.
Are other dimensions worth thinking about? Like I said, until there's
been some contact (either way) between dimensions, I won't worry
about it. It doesn't matter.
I've never read anything by Mary Daly. What views do she espouse?
Have you read anything by C. S. Lewis? (Be REAL careful of his
assumptions, however...)
Another person (who is NOT a Christian) you might enjoy is
Raymond Smullyan: our conversation might turn something similar to
several of his ideas...
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: money
Date & Time: 05/01/90 08:58:27
Message Number 4114
The easiest way to do that is to have a brothel -- and test the
guys and girls for AIDS (and all other diseases) weekly. Not much
of a challenge.
Chip P. Unicorn
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: RUFUS
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 05/01/90 09:04:57
Message Number 4116
>...anyone wanna help me seal all the sprinkler systems around town?
Seal them? I have two pictures arising from that idea:
1. "Wilbur... Wilbur..." Her voice was tinged with fear.
"Yes, Mildred?"
"Wilbur, look outside the window..."
Wilbur shot a glance outside the window. "Why, Midred. There are
circus animals out there."
"I don't care what they are. Just get RID of them."
When Wilbur left the garage with his shovel, he saw that every one
of the seals had been taped to a sprinkler head.
2. "Wilbur... Wilbur!"
He tossed his head and mumbled, "Yes, Miss Vavavoom. I'd love to
play Nymph and Satyr with you."
"Wilbur... wake up!"
"Huh? What's wrong?"
"I just heard a high pitched noise, an explosion, and then it
rained for a few seconds. Go outside and look."
Tossing his head to wake himself, Wilbur tossed on a terry cloth
bathrobe, walked down the stairs, and looked outside. Every one
of his sprinkler heads had been shattered.
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: RUFUS
Subject: article
Date & Time: 05/01/90 09:13:22
Message Number 4117
Several of the Tom and Jerry cartoons had talking in them, but I don't
think Tom ever talked more than the sound of a muted trumpet in the
background music. (Remember Jerry's cousin who sang such wonderful songs
as:
"I was riding down the trail to Santa Fe,
And I met a pretty gal along the way,
I said, 'Ain't we met before,'
And she drew her fourty-four,
So I tipped my hat and slowly rode away.
I was riding down the trail to Santa Fe,
And I met another gal along the way,
I said, 'Baby, you're a dream,'
She said, 'Touch me and I scream,'
So I tipped my hat and slowly rode away."
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: KEN OBER
To: TURTLE
Subject: * HA! *
Date & Time: 05/01/90 12:53:02
Message Number 4120
I got my information from AMIGA WORLD MAGAZINE -- They have aquired
an A3000 from Commodore-Amiga, Inc. The mentioned /nothing/ about the
UNIX -- Maybe that will come with the 40 Mhz 68040 version in a few
weeks....
===========
From: SCOTT E
To: TURTLE
Subject: downloading
Date & Time: 05/01/90 16:50:59
Message Number 4121
turtle, help me please. I can't seem to download a file from this bbs.
I obviously am doing something wrong. Please help. I am using procomm
as my comm. software and am trying to download file 15 bullet14.txt.
thanks.
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From: SCOTT E
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: you sexxy thing
Date & Time: 05/01/90 16:55:18
Message Number 4122
Hi crytal. It's tues. and I hope your week is going all right. Mine is
much better then last week. Feeling better I hope. :) have a great rest
of the week and hang in there. I bet the old farts get pretty cranky at
a drug store huh. What aisle are the enimas. are they next to the \
suppositories and the ex-lax. Boy mix those together and we could have
a major blow out in sarasota. Seeeeee yaaaaaa
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From: SCOTT E
To: ALL
Subject: road rally
Date & Time: 05/01/90 16:58:27
Message Number 4123
I would love to come to this road rally as long as it is not the opening
day of my favorite movie of all time disney Fantasia. I personally would
like to have crystal in my car and 2 other women would be nice. But I
won't hog all the woman. So just one is alright. So when and where is
this road rally of ours. Hope soon!!!
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From: SCOTT E
To: ALL
Subject: movies
Date & Time: 05/01/90 17:01:03
Message Number 4124
Saw pretty woman last night. It was the best movie I have seen all year.
Julia Roberts is hot looking. Never realized that before. Rich Gere is
great in the role he plays. In case someone hasn't heard this is the
basic storyline. Richard Gere is a rich businessman just like Don Trump
(though I read the other day he isn't as rich as he was). Well rich
is in LA on business and takes his lawyers E'SPIRIT FOR A CRUISE
DOWN HOLLYWOOD BLVD. IN comes Julia miss prostitute 1990. Well to make
a long story short rich hires her to be his bosom buddy for a week
in exchange for 3000 dollars. In short as you guess they fall in love
and as in almost all disney(touchstone) films they live happily ever
after. It's kinda a modern day cinderella story. Will go and see it
a few more times. I reeeeeaaaallllllly enjoyed it as you can tell.
Have a good week.;
;)
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: TURTLE
Subject: FIDO stuff
Date & Time: 05/01/90 18:50:26
Message Number 4125
No, I don't have my Fido Node Number, and I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT!!!
George Emigh (Above Board) is the local host, he seems to be very good
about most stuff, but he's taking forever to get my node # to me!
Richard Whidden (No Name BBS) apparently does the feeds for most of the
echo's, but I haven't talked to him about getting any because...
I STILL DON'T HAVE MY NODE NUMBER!!! (sorry 'bout that,I'm kinda upset)
I don't run Binkley.. I use Frontdoor (1.99c) which is slightly
/bigger/ than Bink, the difference is that you don't need any extra
programs to proccess your nodelist or set up your mail packets for you.
I don't actually know that much about Bink, never tried it.. Frank
Merrill told me he'd used both and Frontdoor was more efficient in the
long run.
- Corwyn
===========
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: money
Date & Time: 05/01/90 19:08:25
Message Number 4126
Try it.. then tell me it's not a challenge, whatever you might think,
running a brothel's not easy (Although not speaking from personal
experience.. have you ever read 'The night for pay' can't remember the
name of the guy that wrote it though.. it's an autobiography of a
"pimp" actually he came across as pretty honest, but a little slimy.
- Corwyn
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From: YNGLING
To: KEN OBER
Subject: Good News!
Date & Time: 05/01/90 19:35:02
Message Number 4127
Ken,
If I took up a collection, how much would I have to get to pay you
to /stop/ using the phrase "cowabunga, dudes?" Do you even know what
cowabunga means (aside from aparently appearing more than once in the
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from Hell movie)?
The Yngling
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From: C.C.A.
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: More God...
Date & Time: 05/01/90 20:22:07
Message Number 4128
Good Job!!!!!!!
===========
From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Fantasia
Date & Time: 05/01/90 21:12:23
Message Number 4130
Of course, the fun part will be attempting to sneak in a video camera
to tape the movie. So, when will it be re-released?
===========
From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Anarchy Now
Date & Time: 05/01/90 21:14:51
Message Number 4131
Ahhh, mucho thanks. I think I've seen them before at some place or
another (my memory is going tonight).
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Hi
Date & Time: 05/01/90 21:18:55
Message Number 4132
I was thinking more along the line of RTV Silicone Rubber (GE, we bring
good things to life then we stick 'em together) or epoxy.
===========
From: TURTLE
To: SCOTT E
Subject: downloading
Date & Time: 05/01/90 23:17:52
Message Number 4134
Several people have had problems downloading with Procomm, primarily
because Procomm's XModem file transfer routine isn't worth a revolting
box of bug parts. You have to tell Procomm to use XModem Checksum (I'm
not sure how to do that; you might want to try one of the more IBM types
floating around, if you can find one); there's some manual toggle
between XModem CRC and XModem Checksum somewhere. (XModem CRC will
/not/ work.) Alternately, you might try getting a better terminal
program somewhere; Corwyn of Amber has a couple of good public domain
programs, as does Chip P. Unicorn.
--A helpful Turtle
===========
From: TURTLE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: FIDO stuff
Date & Time: 05/01/90 23:21:58
Message Number 4135
You might try getting your node number from Steve Hall; he seems
fairly efficient about those things. Technically, the net host for
this area is still Alfie Bruhel (American United Broadcasting), but
he's in the process of being evicted forcibly from that position since
he never maintains his system and rarely bothers even to notice when
it goes down for weeks at a time. Anyway, Alfie went to Germany
recently, and to make a long and nasty story short and nasty, everyone
staged a revolt in his absence and started re-routing all the echo
traffic through Minas Tirith and the No-Name (with the result that there
are now two completely unrelated Suncoast Gossip echoes that don't
speak to each other), and George is the kinda-sorta de-facto acting
net host. What with all the politicking and stuff going on, it's
somehow not surprising George has forgotten about you.
Another place you might want to try to get a node number, if you
really get impatient, is from Arlene Oakes at the Grand BBS; at the
very least, she'll probably be able to get George Emigh to get moving.
Happy hunting.
--A Matrix-free Turtle
===========
From: SNAKEBYTE
To: SCOTT E
Subject: call the doctor
Date & Time: 05/02/90 00:57:11
Message Number 4136
I agree in part. I DO enjoy going to those movies (really, ANY
movies), but I don't necessarily drag my kids along for that reason.
Most of the time I try not to because it can be rather distracting
having ruggies pullin' you around durin' the important parts of the
flick. I like to see my kids have fun at a movie, and I already
know all the words to AN AMERICAN TAIL, LADY AND THE TRAMP, DUMBO,
WINNIE THE POOH, NEVER ENDING STORY, THE DARK CRYSTAL, HONEY I
SHRUNK THE KIDS, BATMAN, SLEEPING BEAUTY and a ton of others I am
bombarded with daily....yeah, I laugh at the movies!!!!
===========
From: SNAKEBYTE
To: KEN OBER
Subject: TURTLE POWER!
Date & Time: 05/02/90 01:02:10
Message Number 4137
Cowabunga, dude.
===========
From: SNAKEBYTE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/02/90 01:03:58
Message Number 4138
Shit, I'll have to digest your response as I attempt to shake this
three dimensional shadow off my four dimensional limbs....I hate it
when that happens!!!
===========
From: SNAKEBYTE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Howard
Date & Time: 05/02/90 01:06:13
Message Number 4139
"I have no license....and my name's NOT Jack"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzap
loved it!!!
===========
From: SNAKEBYTE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Spaced
Date & Time: 05/02/90 01:08:04
Message Number 4140
A little dry, but some parts were pretty good. The dude that looks
and acts like Jack Nicholson was alright. Just remember.....
"Prepare to die, Earth scum"......cute
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/02/90 01:12:03
Message Number 4141
Hi, pick me up some beer while you're out.
-Snake
===========
From: C.C.A.
To: ANYONE
Subject: Murphy's Kids
Date & Time: 05/02/90 07:15:19
Message Number 4144
Mead's Law: Paper is always strongest at mthe perferation(sp.?)
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: money
Date & Time: 05/02/90 08:43:20
Message Number 4145
No -- I've never read 'The Night for Pay.' But, heck -- making money
illegally without hurting anyone still sounds much easier than
making money legally without hurting anyone.
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: C.C.A.
Subject: More God...
Date & Time: 05/02/90 08:46:03
Message Number 4146
Dear C.C.A.,
Hello! And thank for the compliment! I haven't seen your face
around before...
Tell me about yourself: who (and what) are you? What do you do?
Have any hobbies?
If you're new to this BBS, then welcome! If you're not new, but
are just beginning to post, then welcome to our conversations!
Chip P. Unicorn
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: C.C.A.
Subject: Murphy's Kids
Date & Time: 05/02/90 08:54:26
Message Number 4147
Hofstadter's Law: Everything will take longer than you think, even
when you take Hofstadter's law into account.
Newcome's Law: Whenever it is written, the name 'Newcom' is always
misspelled.
O'Toole's commentary: Murphy was an optimist.
===========
From: KEN OBER
To: YNGLING
Subject: Cowabunga, Dude
Date & Time: 05/02/90 12:51:52
Message Number 4148
Actually, the phrase appeared only /once/ in the entire movie at the
end.....
Pay me enough for my Hard Drive and I'll stop .... :)
===========
From: YNGLING
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: TURTLE POWER!
Date & Time: 05/02/90 13:58:28
Message Number 4150
Snakebyte -
I'll offer /you/ double what I'm offering Ken not to use that phrase
in the future. I /know/ you're old enough to remember the origin of
"cowabunga" so I wont even ask...
The Yngling
===========
From: YNGLING
To: ALL
Subject: J.Y.C.
Date & Time: 05/02/90 14:05:35
Message Number 4151
For any who are interested, an exerpt from a letter from Jacques-Yves
Cousteau:
"When a dolphin mother gives birth, her baby is expelled underwater
. The first act following birth is critical: to lift the freshly born
youngster up to the surface for its first breath. So powerful is this
motherly instinct that other struggling animals have been pushed to the
surface instinctively by female dolphins.
"Surely this blessed miracle of life is the greatest treasure on
earth. Yet do we earthlings cherish and guard it? On the contrary.
Each month month we now pour millions of tons of poisonous waste into
the global water system. Many of our lakes, rivers, and coastal waters
have received their mortal wound. The water is undrinkable. The fish
and shellfish, if they exist at all, are contaminated.
"Is all now lost? I do not believe it...I passionately believe
that the perceptive few who have the opportunity to see the ultimate
disaster ahead must band together now to warn the slumbering many.
(Is it not always thus?) Such corrective measures as exist must be put
into effect immediately. Pioneering research and exploration to help us
better understand the sea and its creatures must be undertaken without
delay.
"To this new crusade I solemnly pledge what years remain to me."
-Captain Jacques-Yves Cousteau
The Cousteau Society
930 West 21st Street
Norfolk, Virginia
23517
$15.00 annual membership fee
$25.00 family membership fee
[ALL donations gratefully accepted]
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From: BEATLE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: God...
Date & Time: 05/02/90 17:56:18
Message Number 4153
> How can we keep abortions from being necessary?
I like that philosophy. We need to get more people to work toward that.
===========
From: BEATLE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: article
Date & Time: 05/02/90 17:59:18
Message Number 4154
Well, I heard somewhere (and I'm SURE of this) that Tom never spoke,
but Jerry did.
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From: BEATLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Fantasia
Date & Time: 05/02/90 18:01:50
Message Number 4155
Disney will re-release "Fantasia" in October to commemorate the 50th
anniversary. It has apparently been moved back a couple months. It was
originally to be out in the summer.
re: video cameras. I wish we still had drive-ins. No audio problems.
Also, in a theatre, you may be to close to the screen. Something like
that happened to me at Disney MGM studios. I taped the film in the Great
Movie Ride, and I had a horrible time getting the whole screen in.
===========
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/02/90 19:23:36
Message Number 4156
I usually remain in my bed when I'm passed out, except when my friends
are feeling particularly sadistic, and decide to see where they can put
me w/o me noticing.
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: money
Date & Time: 05/02/90 19:25:02
Message Number 4157
And generally it's more fun.. you just have to keep from getting caught.
(It does happen occasionally.. those pesky police)
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: BEATLE
Subject: God...
Date & Time: 05/02/90 19:28:15
Message Number 4158
Condoms at every corner!!! Condoms beside every bed!!
Remember:
"If you're not going to sack it, Go home and whack it!"
Courtesy of the Condom Week Slogans List.
- Corwyn
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From: C.C.A.
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: God...
Date & Time: 05/02/90 22:47:57
Message Number 4161
Good job CORWYN!!!!!
===========
From: TURTLE
To: C.C.A.
Subject: Foo
Date & Time: 05/02/90 23:26:01
Message Number 4162
Every rule has an exception except this one: A man must be present in
order to be shaved.
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From: TURTLE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: money
Date & Time: 05/02/90 23:26:51
Message Number 4163
>...making money illegally without hurting anyone still sounds much
>easier than making money legally without hurting anyone.
Nope.
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Fantasia
Date & Time: 05/02/90 23:29:33
Message Number 4164
Taping movies with a video recorder inevidably yeilds disappointing
results: the movie is being projectected at 24 frames per second, the
camcorder is running at 30 fps, so inevidably you're going to end up
with blank frames on the tape or frames that were shot while the
shutter was opening or closing. (At a minimum, you'll get six frames
a second that are messed up, in fact.) Wouldn't it be easier to simply
"borrow" a print?
--A practical Turtle
===========
From: TURTLE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/02/90 23:32:35
Message Number 4165
Tsk tsk tsk. Don't you know that birth control is immoral? It's against
God's will, you see. If you don't believe it, ask anyone who's standing
in a picket line waving "Stop Abortions Now;" they generally seem to be
the people most stridently opposed to birth control. (And Heaven KNOWS
we musn't permit public education about birth control, because that
would make more people want to have sex...)
--A baffled Turtle
This message brought to you by the Committee for Mindless Morality,
Inc; an affiliate of We Sold Our Brains For God, Ltd.
===========
From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: TURTLE
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/03/90 02:12:09
Message Number 4166
I just can't understand how they can let places like this exist!
Why I've seen the "S" word five times, and that nasty boy used the "C"
word twice! You will all burn in HELL for your blasphemy!
(No, Turtle's aren't excluded from HELL, they just can't go to Heaven)
- Corwyn
Courtesy: Fire and Brimstone Unlimited.
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: ALL
Subject: Suncoast City
Date & Time: 05/03/90 08:38:02
Message Number 4167
Does anyone know what happened to Suncoast City? Every time I call --
no matter what the baud rate, I just get garbage before it hangs up.
(This never happened before -- I doubt it's on my end of the line.)
Chip P. Unicorn
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: BEATLE
Subject: article
Date & Time: 05/03/90 08:41:48
Message Number 4168
Hmmm... I can't think of any instances where Jerry spoke... Can
anyone out there in BBS-land think of an example?
Chip P. Unicorn
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/03/90 08:43:23
Message Number 4169
>...and decide to see where they can put me w/o noticing...
Unfortunately, you keep waking up before we can rest your bed on
any telephone wires...
Chip P. Unicorn
===========
From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/03/90 08:48:35
Message Number 4170
Ya know, the more I think about it, the more interesting of a place
Hell sounds like, and the more boring Heaven is. But I wouldn't
touch Purgatory. All those people waiting around to get into such
a boring place sound even worse.
Chip P. Unicorn
Is there a Purgatory for Hell?
===========
From: C.C.A.
To: TURTLE
Subject: Foo
Date & Time: 05/03/90 16:23:44
Message Number 4171
You are FUNNY (but looks aren't everything)
===========
From: C.C.A.
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/03/90 16:27:55
Message Number 4172
AMEN! PREACH IT!
===========
From: C.C.A.
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/03/90 16:29:07
Message Number 4173
I'd rather not take that chance.
Do you like to PARTY?? If you do, HEAVEN won't be a boring place at
all.
Pensonally, I'm rather looking forward to an eternal party. Besides,
who in their right minds would want to take a bath in fire forever?
--An anticipating C.C.A.
===========
From: DONTHEN
To: ALL
Subject: WARNING
Date & Time: 05/03/90 17:05:24
Message Number 4174
**
**..**
**......**
**..........**
**....PEOPLE....**
**..WITHOUT A CLUE..**
**...ON BOARD...**
**..........**
**......**
**..**
**
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From: ACAPULCO
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 05/03/90 17:39:05
Message Number 4175
It figures you would... he who won't pass up one stinkin' weekend with
his girlfriend for a once-in-a-blue-moon opportunity like a road rally!
{Acapulco}
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: C.C.A.
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/03/90 18:33:18
Message Number 4176
Dear C.C.A.,
A few points of explanation:
I am a born-again Christian, who believes in the truth of the Bible.
However, that does NOT prevent me from strongly disagreeing with many
things going on with the church. (Jim and Tammy Bakker aren't the only
thing...)
I have been less "turned on" to organized religion since last summer,
when I helped organize and create a church in Mexico -- then helped
destroy it. (The second was unintentional, but I believe it was really
the will of God.)
People who all share exactly the same opinion bore me. I despise
clones. Many Christian churches, however, seem to want to repress the
individuality that God has given us. (Take a look at hair styles around
your church...) Many Christian churches only reach out to the people
they want to be seen with... the white, upper class.
Hell, at least, is non-discriminating. There will be thousands of
interesting people. Some hideous, yes -- but probably many people who
considered themselves to be "good." (If you follow the idea that it's
only belief in Jesus that will get one into Heaven.) The thoroughly
evil people might be the most fascinating to talk with: why did Hitler
do what he did? And so forth...
I assume from your comments that you feel you'll be going to
Heaven. I also assume from your comments that you feel Hell will
be a lake of fire (from Revelations.) I have one question for you:
Why should a non-believer accept any of those teachings? (Please,
PLEASE don't say, "Because the Bible says so." I hate circular
reasoning...)
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: ACAPULCO
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 05/03/90 18:46:10
Message Number 4177
Dear Acapulco,
I shall be seeing my girlfriend only twice more before I take off
for Washington this summer. Gimme a break!
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: RUFUS
To: ACAPULCO
Subject: Pee Wee
Date & Time: 05/03/90 18:56:42
Message Number 4178
And to think me and Zot will be rushing over from the SAT's to do this
Road Rally. Don't be surprised if we yell things like "The answer is
C" to passers-by. BTW, just where is the meeting point? I'd like to
know. I'll probably meet Zot at Turtles [Turtle says "Hey, hold on,
just what do you think your doing?"] Anyways, off to study for a
test. Ackk...
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/03/90 19:08:54
Message Number 4180
Yea, and the ogre you borrowed to carry my waterbed get's hungry and
leaves before I go back to sleep.
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/03/90 19:09:59
Message Number 4181
Yea.. but you might have some fun being an Evangelist in purgatory..
talk about people who are /really/ nervous.
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: C.C.A.
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/03/90 19:11:18
Message Number 4182
Hmm.. It'd be convenient for 24hr Hot Dog service.. or you could just
slap a hamburger patty on a fellow sinner's back, wait 5 minutess, and
Voila! Fried Hamburger. What a wonderful thought.
- Corwyn
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From: JONBOY
To: TURTLE
Subject: C Stuff
Date & Time: 05/03/90 20:20:29
Message Number 4187
Tell ya what - the compiler that I am thinking about for CP/M is the
Software Toolworks C compiler and it leaves its' output as ----
(hold onto your shorts ) Assembler source with C comments!!!! TA DA!
How's that for a compromise? I will make an effort to get my stuff
together and dig it out.
JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
To: TURTLE
Subject: Radar Detectors
Date & Time: 05/03/90 20:35:41
Message Number 4188
Yup the only 2 states that have attempted to subvert your rights to
the FREE airwaves are Virginia and New Jersey. It is in fact illegal
ands will subject you to a $250 fine and confiscation of your detector
in Virginia. New Jersey is second hand.
A low-flyin JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
To: TURTLE
Subject: ** HA ! **
Date & Time: 05/03/90 20:39:12
Message Number 4189
<Snicker> could your compiler class have anything to do with a bad
case of compilerphobia?
Seriously - I really loved my compilers class. We had to do a machine
that ran "ToyCode". Then we had to write an assembler for said ToyCode
and then implement a BASIC compiler using the assembler then we had
to write an application that used the BASIC. My application was a
simple Sieve of Erathonese (sp?). My buddy and I were gonna do the
whole damned thing in YACC and LEX but there are pitifully few texts
on either of these so we had to do a banzai job as the finals approached
A memorable quarter.
JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: No No ! Please
Date & Time: 05/03/90 20:45:17
Message Number 4190
I have a seek and destroy missile aimed at your house should you fire
up the abortion issue again! The last one damn near killed me from
sheer ennui at seeing page after page of standard drivel. Face it:
abortion is an emotional issue and as such cannot be argued logically,
effectively or rationally. Please let it die!!! <whimper>
A freaked out JonBoy
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From: JONBOY
To: YNGLING
Subject: Good News!
Date & Time: 05/03/90 20:54:26
Message Number 4191
I'd chip in! Y'think he ever heard of Frankie?
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From: JONBOY
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: article
Date & Time: 05/03/90 21:12:52
Message Number 4192
I seem to recall Jerry uttering a noise similar to "Hey!" to get
Tom'a attention - been so long tho
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From: ANGEL
To: YNGLING
Subject: New crusade
Date & Time: 05/04/90 00:58:02
Message Number 4193
> To this new crusade I solemnly pledge ...
Ye Gods, not another new crusade! I'm rapidly approachig 'cause'
burn-out. Earth Day was the last straw, how about a moon-day or
something?
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: YNGLING
Subject: TURTLE POWER!
Date & Time: 05/04/90 01:26:14
Message Number 4194
>Cowabunga dude.
Used as a quote from TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES, not a quote from
me. As for the origins, I'm not sure. But the first time I saw it,
it was on a poster in a freinds dorm room in '75 with Snoopy shootin'
a tube sayin' it.....What are you offering Ken?!?!?!?!
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/04/90 01:29:24
Message Number 4195
I know I'm not drunk.....I can lay on the floor WITHOUT holding on!
My friends never 'put' me anywhere, but they have put other people
with me without me noticing......yuck!!!
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From: SNAKEBYTE
To: TURTLE
Subject: MESSAGES
Date & Time: 05/04/90 01:32:54
Message Number 4196
Hey, shelled one.....I just was told that I had a message waiting
#4186 and I find a gap existing between message 4182 and 4187. Just
curious what happened???
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/04/90 08:05:02
Message Number 4197
Yeah.. Coyote syndrome.. you want to knaw off your arm to avoid waking
up the thing thats sleeping next to you.. those are the mornings that
drive me to drinking /before/ 8am.
- Corwyn
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From: TURTLE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Unreal Problems
Date & Time: 05/04/90 14:44:07
Message Number 4199
>Is there a Purgatory for Hell?
No, buit there is a waiting list to get a Ferrari F-40.
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From: TURTLE
To: C.C.A.
Subject: Foo
Date & Time: 05/04/90 14:44:58
Message Number 4200
>You are FUNNY (but looks aren't everything)
I shan't respond to that; I try to make it a point not to attack
unarmed opponents.
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From: TURTLE
To: C.C.A.
Subject: Real solutions
Date & Time: 05/04/90 14:46:35
Message Number 4201
>...who in their right minds would want to take a bath in fire forever?
Who in their right minds would worship a being who sees fit to keep a
private torture chamber for His mistakes? I for one expect higher
standards from any deity I would worship than that...
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: Road Stuff
Date & Time: 05/04/90 14:49:42
Message Number 4202
The meeting point is the Klockner-Bartelt parking lot on DeSoto about
a stone's throw from my apartment, as the crow flies over green fields
and eats the lovely butterflies. If you're meeting here first, you can
follow me over...
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From: TURTLE
To: JONBOY
Subject: C Stuff
Date & Time: 05/04/90 14:51:45
Message Number 4203
>...and it leaves it's output as...Assembler source with C comments!!!!
8080 or Z-80 assembler? I have a couple of really good Z-80-specific
macro assemblers, but the only 8080 assembler I have is ASM...
--A Z-80 Turtle
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From: TURTLE
To: JONBOY
Subject: Radar Detectors
Date & Time: 05/04/90 14:53:41
Message Number 4204
Actually, radar detectors are also illegal in Connecticut...
when you drive into the state, there's a little tiny sign that
says "Welcome to Connecticut" and an enormous sign that says
"RADAR DETECTORS ILLEGAL." Some greeting.
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From: TURTLE
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: MESSAGES
Date & Time: 05/04/90 14:56:35
Message Number 4205
#4186 might be a mail message...
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From: DM2
To: SNAKEBYTE
Subject: -=*><*=-
Date & Time: 05/04/90 16:07:45
Message Number 4206
Sheesh, and I know *someone* with a hard copy of me at my best...
Drunk as a skunk (actually, I'm *not* a skunk...) and online.
He uses it to keep me in line.
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From: DM2
To: TURTLE
Subject: ::sigh::
Date & Time: 05/04/90 16:18:40
Message Number 4207
In regards to the downloading problems y'all are having...
Not only can I not download or upload software, but I can't even
download a terminal program to allow me to u/l or d/l the software.
It's a vicious circle, but I'm working on it. I have one on order from
a friend... (The first disk he sent me was blank.) Anybody have any
ideas on how to upload and download using Deskmate? (Like I said, I'm
working on it.) Gawd, this software is driving me *nuts*. I can't even
get it to u/l or d/l with another version of Deskmate. The only thing
I can do right now is go across the PC-Link lines, and as we all know,