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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 22
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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RESOLVED: President Kennedy was killed as the result of a
conspiracy.
[Final portion of my transcription of a radio debate which took
place in the Fall of 1993 between Peter Dale Scott and Gerald
Posner. Today, Mr. Posner gives his closing statement.]
MODERATOR: Thank you, Mr. Scott. Mr. Posner, you have 6 minutes.
GERALD POSNER: The last statement Mr. Scott makes is one that,
uh, one of the few things tonight that we can agree on and agree
on wholeheartedly, which is, getting the files.
I happen to think that one of the things that's happened in this
case is the government is its own worst enemy. They're holding
onto material for 30 years, in instances, because there *is* a
cover-up in the Kennedy assassination. I say this in so many
words in my book. There's a cover-up of the government
incompetence that took place in both the FBI and the CIA. There's
a covering of *behinds*, in essence, of these bureaucrats who are
running for cover. And the FBI, because they were so petrified
that J. Edgar Hoover would be coming down to Dallas and saying,
"What? You had an open file on Lee Harvey Oswald? You were
interrogating his wife and you didn't know he was a 'lone nut'
capable of killing the President?" And of course, Hoover *did*
censure 17 agents and discipline them for that very thing that
the agents feared. They destroyed evidence. They lied about what
happened. And that's what, largely, those files are gonna show.
They will show the *extent* of that cover-up. The difference is
in the interpretation that we have as to whether, in fact, it was
the cover-up of a *murder* (which I don't view it as that), or
what I typically view in this case, from the... my alma mater
where you are now a professor, at Berkeley, from my work in the
early '70s as a political scientist, that, in fact, government is
primarily inefficient and bungling. And this is exactly what you
expect in a case of this magnitude, where people *do* run.
The... some of the things that are mentioned... I think it comes
down again to this very, very fundamental look at "What is the
evidence?" And I think that Mr. Scott says 2 things in his last 6
minutes segment that really shows you the basis of what happens
in conspiracy theory. If there isn't an answer for it, what you
do is you speculate and say, "Here's what might have happened."
And this is what Oliver Stone does very effectively in his film,
"JFK."
On the Walker shooting, Mr. Scott says, "Well I think that the
bullet was swapped. It's not the same bullet that existed in
'63." The problem is that there's no evidence that it was
swapped. So his point is, what *might* have been swapped. We
can't prove that it wasn't. And of course, you can never prove
that... the negative, that the bullet wasn't swapped. But what I
ask for always, as an investigator, as an attorney, is -- just
show me a piece of credible evidence to indicate that that
happened. And that's what, what he can't produce.
He talks about the Tippit shooting. And he says that he thinks
that the police actually botched the planting of the bullets at
the scene. But again: it's strictly speculation. There isn't any
evidence. There's no testimony. There's nothing to indicate that
in fact the police had *planted* the bullets at the scene. And
this is where we go from hard evidence off to what I call
speculation. The Tippit case is a perfect example.
And I must tell you that, as an attorney, it's one of the most
"open and shut" cases I've ever seen. *Thirteen* eyewitnesses --
not just the two that he wants to talk about with Helen Markum(?)
and Warren Reynolds (and each of those I could respond to) --
thirteen eyewitnesses see Oswald either do the shooting [of
Tippit] or escaping from the scene. Six people pick him out of a
lineup that night. He's discovered a few blocks away, with the
pistol. It is tied ballistically into the murder of Tippit, to
the exclusion of any other gun in the world. How he ends up in