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Welcome to the small web!

Welcome to the small web!

From: alex@alexwennerberg.com

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 18:27:00 -0800

Message-Id: CGGDCTQSQPCO.20JD5CHNXSHDW@localhost

To: <smallweb@flounder.online>

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Hello all! Alex here, admin of flounder.online.

I'm very excited about the loose collection of ideas surrounding the

"small web" -- platforms centered around independence and community --

an alternative to the web as it exists today, dominated by large

corporations and the profit interest. The small web is about community,

about finding alternative spaces to the "big web".

In my view, there are not many good platforms for long-form discussion

on the small web. I think that mailing lists are the best answer to

this, but a lot of mailing list software is archaic and hard to use. I'm

working on a suite of tools to help make running mailing lists easier,

starting with crabmail (the tool you are viewing this email through).

The Crabmail mailing list is available here, if you have any feedback or

discussion:

https://lists.flounder.online/crabmail/

To participate, simply send an email to

smallweb@flounder.online

Or click the "reply" button below this email, which should open your

email client.

Right now the mailing list is _read-only_ -- you'll have to check back

for replies. Atom syndication is coming very soon. This is a new

community and new tool, so expect a bit of instability. Experiment with

it!

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Alex

https://alex.flounder.online

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: alex@alexwennerberg.com

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 18:34:08 -0800

Message-Id: CGGDIAPCSYYQ.3Q6RV9GTU9T0@localhost

To: "alex wennerberg" <alex@alexwennerberg.com>, <smallweb@flounder.online>

In-Reply-To: CGGDCTQSQPCO.20JD5CHNXSHDW@localhost

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Also note that your email may not show up in the archive right away, as

I try and find out the best solution for moderation / syncing emails.

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: alex.wennerberg@gmail.com

Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 22:07:34 -0800

Message-Id: CADEtP+4jHVMOci0MAXuXGT=opRyZkoW1DR=HbO8LQ_-Vxn=aVw@mail.gmail.com

To: <smallweb@flounder.online>

Cc: "alex wennerberg" <alex@alexwennerberg.com>

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It works now!

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: aliceffekt@gmail.com

Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 13:43:33 -0800

Message-Id: CAE2DaSSbPU+Cs9sRDQUSeE25=_tn3h=F_m9X7zkrhFRdcv1D0w@mail.gmail.com

To: <smallweb@flounder.online>

Cc: "Alex Wennerberg" <alex.wennerberg@gmail.com>

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Looking forward to follow the conversations here!

Crabmail is an excellent smoll platform.

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: alex@alexwennerberg.com

Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:28:24 -0800

Message-Id: YcebCDujXZOosOeH@localhost.lan

To: <smallweb@flounder.online>

In-Reply-To: CAE2DaSSbPU+Cs9sRDQUSeE25=_tn3h=F_m9X7zkrhFRdcv1D0w@mail.gmail.com

Cc: "Devine Lu Linvega" <aliceffekt@gmail.com>

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Thanks for joining! Looking forward to developing it further :)

Alex

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: steve@stevegattuso.me

Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 00:47:02 -0500

Message-Id: 9B9F6F53-BD3F-4E1B-8937-3177B44245EE@stevegattuso.me

To: <smallweb@flounder.online>

Cc: "Alex Wennerberg" <alex@alexwennerberg.com>

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This is awesome! Also looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

Just a note: I'm noticing that the Atom feed only shows the title of posts- not the content.

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: alex@alexwennerberg.com

Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 21:53:14 -0800

Message-Id: 9419F08F-CE45-4BA6-895E-3C43EAA769DB@alexwennerberg.com

To: "Steve Gattuso" <steve@stevegattuso.me>

In-Reply-To: 9B9F6F53-BD3F-4E1B-8937-3177B44245EE@stevegattuso.me

Cc: <smallweb@flounder.online>

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I haven’t decided on the structure for the atom posts. Right now, there is just an RSS feed for “most recently updated threads” and then separate feeds for each thread. Maybe there should be an atom feed for all emails, unstructured? Unsure 🤔

Alex

On Dec 25, 2021, at 9:47 PM, Steve Gattuso <steve@stevegattuso.me> wrote:
This is awesome! Also looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
Just a note: I'm noticing that the Atom feed only shows the title of posts- not the content.

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: chrono@tilde.cafe

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 10:38:09 -0600

Message-Id: 6f440852-0824-b0d5-3db9-7f5871b95712@tilde.cafe

To: <smallweb@flounder.online>

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Cc: "alex wennerberg" <alex@alexwennerberg.com>

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Hey, I have decided to join in to the fun, I noticed you have an 72 character limit, which is fine, but its kind of weird if you email character limit is 80, so yeah, the line-breaks here look pretty bad.

Its a matter of CSS tho, so a quick fix should be possible? Anyways, I am going to stick around for a while, this looks awesome nonetheless :P

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: alex@alexwennerberg.com

Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:34:08 -0800

Message-Id: YctmsG2BD3I27xCh@localhost.lan

To: <smallweb@flounder.online>

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Cc: "Chrono" <chrono@tilde.cafe>

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Hey, I have decided to join in to the fun, I noticed you have an 72
character limit, which is fine, but its kind of weird if you email
character limit is 80, so yeah, the line-breaks here look pretty bad.
Its a matter of CSS tho, so a quick fix should be possible? Anyways, I
am going to stick around for a while, this looks awesome nonetheless :P

I believe the character limit on desktop should be 78 characters (per

the RFC), it is for me. I do agree that this causes problems sometimes,

I will widen it a bit. Thanks!

--

Alex

https://alex.flounder.online

gemini://alex.flounder.online

Re: Welcome to the small web!

From: alex@alexwennerberg.com

Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 22:52:35 -0800

Message-Id: YdPusxsQci+4/Pe0@localhost.lan

To: <lists+smallweb@flounder.online>

In-Reply-To: 6f440852-0824-b0d5-3db9-7f5871b95712@tilde.cafe

Cc: "Chrono" <chrono@tilde.cafe>

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Hey, I have decided to join in to the fun, I noticed you have an 72 character limit, which is fine, but its kind of weird if you email character limit is 80, so yeah, the line-breaks here look pretty bad.
> Its a matter of CSS tho, so a quick fix should be possible? Anyways, I am going to stick around for a while, this looks awesome nonetheless :P

I played around with this a bit -- I now support format=flowed, so text should flow normally, regardless of how the email is truncated, so long as the client supports format=flowed

-- Alex

https://alex.flounder.online

gemini://alex.flounder.online