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2018-01-27 - Ladybug quest

I read a document with sample LOGO code, and chose to try it out in

FreeDOS. First i tried Ladybug LOGO, the LOGO that i had used as a

kid. This brings back a few memories.

In middle school i checked out an spy adventure book from the

school library. It involved typing in BASIC code to decrypt hidden

messages and solve various puzzles. I had fun typing it into an

Apple II during lunch break. Then i took the book home. Dad let me

type code into GW-BASIC on an IBM XT. He also helped me debug it when

i made mistakes.

Later that year, i took a course designed to explore our interests. We

would spend each week on a new subject. During the computer science

subject, i learned to use LOGO on the Apple II. This was the first

time i was officially taught to use a computer at school.

download SIMCGA 4.1

http://cd.textfiles.com/megarom/megarom1/MISCUTL/SIMCGA41.ZIP

Dad downloaded Ladybug LOGO from Compuserve or a BBS and let me use

that at home. Ladybug LOGO was hard-coded to use a CGA graphics

adapter. Since the IBM XT had a Hercules monochrome graphics adapter,

it would not run out of the box. Dad set it up with a clever TSR

named SIMCGA, which made the necessary video BIOS and memory map

changes to emulate CGA on a Hercules card. This enabled Ladybug LOGO

to run on our hardware.

download Ladybug LOGO

http://cd.textfiles.com/simtel/simtel20/MSDOS/LOGO/LADYBUG.ZIP

I installed Ladybug LOGO in FreeDOS 1.2 on VirtualBox. Ladybug

is a software engineering marvel because of its well organized

documentation and the capabilities that it DOES offer, considering

that it fits within the constraints of a real mode compiled BASIC

application and a single floppy disk. It is also interesting to note

that the documentation uses a mixture of feminine and masculine

pronouns, which seems progressive for 1984.

The software's author was an interesting character. He was humble and

did not expect to get rich. His corporate job paid the grocery bills

and Ladybug was offered on a donations accepted basis to fund his

hobby. Below is a magazine article about Ladybug LOGO.

* Ladybug article page 1

* Ladybug article page 2

* Ladybug article page 3

* Ladybug article page 4

From PC Magazine, May 15, 1984

http://books.google.com/books?id=hcHq9kHRifYC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA210&f=false#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ladybug ran fine in FreeDOS, but it would not execute the sample LOGO

code, which used list processing primitives and variadic procedures.

Ladybug LOGO must have internal list processing in order to run LOGO

code. However, it does not expose its internal list primitives as

LOGO commands. It also lacks variadic procedures. Ladybug didn't even

offer enough functionality to build my own primitives.

UCBLogo homepage

http://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~bh/logo.html

download UCBLogo 5.3 for DOS

ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/ucblogo/blogo.exe

download UCBLogo 5.3 source code

ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/ucblogo/old/ucblogo-5.3.tar.gz

Next i downloaded UCBLogo 5.3 for DOS, which could run the sample

code. Success! Let's go deeper. On the same page the author also

offers three textbooks free of charge, which use LOGO to teach deep

concepts in computer science. Thinking this might be fun, i began to

read the manual and tinker with commands. The EDALL command spawns

the JOVE full screen editor, which is a clone of Emacs, which is a

depraved editor indeed. (Of course i am a completely objective

observer in the emacs versus vi dichotomy.) The manual says that i

can use any editor i wish by setting the EDITOR environment variable.

So i set it to vi.

download Calvin 2.3

ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/simtel_msdos/msdos/editor/calvin23.zip

download Calvin 2.3 source code

ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/simtel_msdos/msdos/editor/calsrc23.zip

My DOS vi of choice was Calvin 2.3, which is tiny, fast, and

functional. It works perfectly in DOSBox but screen navigation

produces artifacts and glitches in VirtualBox. Calvin comes with

source code and it is compiled using Borland Turbo C 2.0 and

A86 4.02. Reading the source code, my guess is that the glitches

come from CGA BIOS bugs in VirtualBox, specifically around

INT10h AH=05h SELECT ACTIVE PAGE. Rather than try to fix or work

around this BIOS bug myself, i thought i would try another editor.

download Elvis 2.2_0 for DOS

http://www.the-little-red-haired-girl.org/pub/elvis/old/elvis-2.2_0-msdos.tar.gz

download Elvis 2.2_0 source code

http://www.the-little-red-haired-girl.org/pub/elvis/old/elvis-2.2_0.tar.gz

download Untar DOS utility

http://www.the-little-red-haired-girl.org/pub/elvis/old/untardos.exe

Next up i tried Elvis 2.2_0 for DOS, which is the same codebase that

BSD's default nvi editor is based on. Elvis comes with source code

and it is compiled using Microsoft Visual C++ 1.5. Elvis crashes when

run from UCBLogo. There is a blip on the screen and UCBLogo prints

the following error.

File system error: Could not launch the editor in edall

[edit contents]

I briefly considered compiling UCBLogo to debug the code. However,

UCBLogo is compiled using the Zortech C Compiler. I couldn't find any

place to download this compiler. It has been superseded by

Digital Mars, but that compiler suite no longer runs on DOS. Some

other troubleshooting would be more appropriate.

I tried SET EDITOR=COMMAND.COM which revealed a clue. With this

setting the EDALL command would drop me to a DOS shell. If i ran

ELVIS.EXE it would return immediately to the prompt with ERRORLEVEL 8.

The elvis documentation says it should only ever return 0 or 1. The

elvis code shows that 4 is also possible. Nowhere in the code does it

return 8!

Table of DOS exit codes from Ralph Brown

http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/rbinter/it/80/16.html

Ralph Brown's interrupt list shows that error 8 means that DOS ran out

of memory. The MEM command showed that the maximum executable size

within the UCBLogo spawned shell is 414k, and ELVIS.EXE is over 428k.

It must have something to do with elvis being a real-mode 16-bit

application.

download VIM 7.3 for 32-bit extended DOS

ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/pc/vim73_46d32.zip

download VIM 7.3 runtime

ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/pc/vim73_46rt.zip

download VIM 7.3 source code

ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/pc/vim73_46src.zip

Next up i tried the DOS 32-bit extended VIM version 7.3, compiled with

DJGPP. This version is a little more complex to install, but it is

able to make better use of extended memory. VIM works perfectly when

run from UCBLogo. Success!

On a tangent, i am pleased with how well the latest DJGPP works on

FreeDOS 1.2. Combined with the DOSLFN driver i get long file names

and a Unix style shell. FreeDOS has come a long way and promises to

be a fun toy to play with.

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