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Welcome to the new Defacto.
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If you have access to a graphical capable web browser I suggest that you
stop reading this text edition of DF2 right now and go to www.defacto2.com
and read the online version. It has color, graphics, disco music and is
a lot easier to read then ASCII text.
Defacto2 in the future will be available to read using three different
mediums.
- There will be a coded PC version supporting SVGA graphics, digital
music and all that other jazz.
- A plain ASCII / text version for all you UNIX users or people who feel
the coded edition is too big to download.
- And finally each issue will be viewable on our web page at
www.defacto2.com.
Unfortunately for this issue their is no coded version available due to
unforeseen difficulties, again.
Every month we will hope to release a issue, exactly when during the month
we will release will not be decided until we have enough quality content
to warrant a release. Each issue will be released on the day of release on
most major ftp sites and on our web page. We don't have and are not planing
on having an IRC channel, IRC offer bots or anonymous ftp sites.
If you wish to contact Defacto2 please email us at defacto@defacto2.com
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Interview with Bush
Conducted by Saint Tok
SWMP hacked
DEFACTO2: Welcome Bush, introduce yourself to our readers please.
BUSH: I am Bush, Motiv8 council and Reflux/Onyx member.
DEFACTO2: A while ago there's was stuff up on a popular site. I've heard
that you where apart of the problem. Can you go into more details
about this incident?
BUSH: Someone has my password on SWM, I do not know how they got it. I
dont know why it was done, it was pretty cruel. Anyway one person I
believe was bob226 (not sure though) had my password on SWM and
gave it out on #survival (rapier channel), although I have heard
two other stories. Someone from Devotion was scrolling it in
#survival and I heard someone from MNM was scrolling it in #survival
too. The original event happened about 3 weeks ago when I noticed my
unfo was changed to motiv8 sucks. I got kind of mad, and I thought
it was the siteop. That week I finished #1 on SWM. Then it kept on
continuing for about three weeks or so, I got mad and contacted the
SWM siteop and I asked him "My unfo was changed and I didn't change
it, any idea how it was done?". This was what he replied with
<SwedeMike> it was changed 17:58 today (Bush]]) well who did it?
<SwedeMike> I am going to check it out
He told me 4 people logged in UNDER the bush account
******.******** = bob226, main suspect.
*******.******** = Real, Rapier member former AMN member.
*****.***.***.*** = MNM Shell account.
And one of those leftover ip's is kali from Rapier.
Swedemike got pissed and he asked me if I use that pw alot I told
him I used it on only 2 SITES, his and my whq (which is secure).
He asked me if I recognize those ISP I said "No". I decided to go
around and do a /whois on people and I found them all in #survival
channel with ops they were identified as kali, real, zerot from
Rapier and bob226, Rapier friend. First thing Swedemike did was
contact Rapier and he was ALL OVER THEM. Then he investigated, it
got worse *****.***.***.edu, one ip that logged into my account was
a shell machine in a collage.
Thousands of people probably logged in, and one MNM member logged in
and stole all my credits and gave it to a user jess. Real was kicked
out of Rapier as a result, and investigations are going on for one
more week.
DEFACTO2: Did you get your credits back, the ones which where given to Jess?
BUSH: No, Swedemike wouldn't give them to me, and Rapier didn't fix what
was stolen.
DEFACTO2: Isn't that a bit unfair, why didn't the siteop give you the credits
that where stolen from you?
BUSH: He said its a policy to not fix hacked accounts.
DEFACTO2: I thought hacked accounts always got deleted?
BUSH: No, but my password was changed.
DEFACTO2: Well, since you was fucked on this site, will you be supporting
SWM in the future?
BUSH: Yes :)
DEFACTO2: Thanks for the interview, any last words, or probably greets to
anyone?
BUSH: Greets to Motiv8, Swedemike, Reflux, and Onyx.
And I'd like to say Rapier didn't handle the situation well either.
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Interview with Charley
Conducted by IPggi (over email)
The Merge of CellBlock4 into Rebels
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-�-+ +-�-
� What's up!? �
� ~~~~~~~~~~~ �
� The Rebels has set the prisoners in CellBlock 4 free!!! �
� ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ �
� �
� Yiiiihaaaa!!! Happy new year to all the fellow pirates and �
� also to the fans of Rebels and CB4!! We're starting out �
� this new year with some great news for ya'll! �
� �
� First some background information... �
� �
� One year ago, three Rebels members left Rebels to start �
� up a new cracking/release group called CELLBLOCK 4. �
� After a short time CB4 merged with a small group from �
� which Charley, def_fred and a few other members came from... �
� �
� At the same time, REBELS merged with a �
� group called Pantera in which Doson, Skater and many other �
� members originated... �
� �
� One year has passed, and as you all know, one year in the �
� scene is like 10 years in real life, so A LOT has happened �
� during this past year.. Both groups have had a �
� great year through hard work and fantastic releases. One �
� year later, both CB4 and Rebels are well known, respected �
� groups with great leadership, organization, and �
� releasing power.. so.. why not make it simple?!? ;) �
� �
� CB4 and Rebels have always been very close groups. Discussions �
� revolving around merging and working together has been a part �
� of the daily routine.. ;) But the time was never right.. �
� until NOW!!!! ;) �
� �
� THE REBELS HAVE RESCUED THE PRISONERS IN CELLBLOCK 4 !!! �
� ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ �
� �
� All the ex-cons will now work as the cracking �
� team of rebels.. �
� �
� The circle is complete! We're starting up a new era! :) �
� �
� We have what it takes to give all of you what you want and need.. �
� Great releases from ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY!! ;) �
� �
� �
� //The leaders of the new Rebels �
� �
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DEFACTO2: Welcome Charley can you please tell the readers a little bit
about yourself, don't forget to mention passed and current
affiliations.
CHARLEY: Hi all readers of Defacto2! I'm Charley now one of the leaders
of Rebels... I started out in a really small group called 'oG'
as a supplier.. that group merged in to CB4 where I later became
the president..
I have always been in to this computer stuff. I got my first
computer when I was 8 and I started up my first BBS when I was 14.
hew.. that's like a long time ago now.. ;)
It's only been something like one and a half years since my
ex-boyfriend first showed me the IRC.. so I guess I'm still
kind of a newbe ;P
DEFACTO2: Lets start off by talking about Cell Block 4. I heard CB4
originally was formed because of a split with Rebels. Are
there any truths into this statement and can you go into
further details about CB4's founding?
CHARLEY: Well.. I wouldn't call it a split.. one of the leaders of 'the old
Rebels' (Letherman) founded Cell Block 4 as a cracking group
while he still was a part of Rebels (this was like November 1995).
later on (early 1996).. Letherman left Rebels to work with
his new group full time.. and two more members left Rebels
with him.. About February 1996 the group that I came from
originally merged in to CB4.. And by that merge CB4 became
the group that later on was well known and respected out there.. ;)
DEFACTO2: Who came up with the name of Cell Block 4 and the jail
theme(1)? Was the name Cell Block 4 taken from the movie
with the same name(2)?
CHARLEY: The founder named the group before any of the rest of us joined...
and yes.. the name is from that movie.. I have never seen that
movie myself (I heard that it stinks though;>).. I'm the woman
behind the jail theme ;) I wanted to add some feeling in to the
NFO.. and I wanted it to be special...
DEFACTO2: During CB4's time who where it's main competitors? Where they
cracking groups such as Prozen Crew or utility groups?
CHARLEY: ahh.. that's a hard question.. we never really competed with
anyone but ourselves.. I would say that we were a mix between
a cracking group such as PC and a util group such as DOD.. but
CB4 was a very special group.. and anyone who have visit our
channel knows what I'm talking about.. our main goal was to
make CB4 a well known and respected group without turning in
to 'leet egos.. and we reached that goal...
DEFACTO2: Why did CB4 decide it was better for themselves to merge into
another group rather then continuing on?
CHARLEY: Hummm.. that's a long story.. but as I said.. we had reached
our goals.. and we needed new challenges.. CB4 was a small
group in size.. we only had something like 20 members.. and
that means that all members had to work hard.. and.. I guess..
in the end.. CB4 was too big to handle by just a few ppl.. and
two small to have a huge organization.. it became really hard
for me and def_fred (ex CB4 council) to handle the daily business
and the rest of the council wasn't motivated at that time I guess..
so.. in order for us to get new motivation and new goals we needed
to do something.. and the merge with rebels both gave us all a new
kick and it also gave me and def_fred a chance to relax..
DEFACTO2: Why was Rebels the best choice for CB4 to merge into?
CHARLEY: Well.. Rebels and CB4 has always been two very close groups..
actually.. in the early days of CB4 when I didn't know much about
the life outside our happy little family.. Doson (one
of the leaders of Rebels) told me a lot about the scene and he
always helped me out.. we talked a lot about everything from
releases, courier groups, dupechecks, the scene in general AND we
even at that time talked about merging our groups.. and as the
time went by we have continued talking about merging every now
and then.. but the time was never right.. ;)
DEFACTO2: Did everyone survive the merge into Rebels? What happened to CB4's
couriers seeing Devotion are Rebels official couriers?
CHARLEY: We 'only' lost one member in that merge.. but.. as I explained
earlier.. CB4 was going through a lot of changes at this time..
so two or three other members left the group before we merged
in to Rebels... but that had nothing to do with the merge itself..
We didn't have any couriers in CB4 that only moved files for us...
all our couriers also was either packers, suppliers or crackers..
besides we have worked with courier groups before and CB4 shared
the WHQ site with devotion.. so like no problems at all ;)
DEFACTO2: What are CB4/Rebels future plans for 1997?
CHARLEY: We're planning to growing in to our new suite.. ;) and to continue
to deliver both some heavy quality releases that Rebels are known
for and to give you all the great cracked goodies that CB4 was
know for AND last but not least, to do this as one BIG HAPPY
FAMILY with a great attitude! ;)
DEFACTO2: Any comments or greets you wish to mention before we go?
CHARLEY: Yah.. I would like to say that CB4 didn't die with this merge,
all the prisoners are still here.. just on the other side of
the iron bars.. ;))
The greets goes to all of the member of the new and rocking family
of Rebels.. '!familyhug' ;) aaand.. special thanks to def_fred,
Mercury and Apollo.. ;> bah bye!! ;)
(1) Take a look at some old Cell Block 4 NFO's.
(2) Cell Block 4 made in 1993 (gansta/rap comedy)
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Interview with Comwood (Siteop of Pirates Cove[1])
Conducted by Saint Tok
The Kicking of Nemesis From Pirates Cove
NOTE: Since the interview took place, there was found to be a
miscommunication problem between the two parties involved. They
are now on good terms with each other and Master1 has been
re-added to the site. The siteop involved wishes Master1 and
Nemesis the best of luck and Master1 wishes the same goodwill
to the siteop.
DEFACTO2: Your site Pirates Cove used to be the WHQ for Nemesis. But after
an incident you dropped Nemesis for another group, please go into
the details of these incidents.
COMWOOD: Two reasons led us to drop Nemesis.
(1) My personal relationship with Master1
(2) My views on NMS as a whole.
Let me go into detail..
As you may or may not know, I've gotten a lot of requests to join
other utils groups... and I've declined them out of loyalty.
But as of lately my relationship with Master1 (leader of NMS) has
faltered a bit. I trusted him with a shell account on my site and
he hacked root and created accounts with tons of credits and shit
like that. But I just simply deleted his shell account and turned
a blind eye.
Over the past few weeks he demanded his shell account back. Which
I said no to. But he persisted, even offering me a 1 gig drive to
give it back (which I said no to). It got to be too much with him
after a while.
The other guys in NMS are great people... and I've never had a
problem with them. But Master1 was just too much of a conflict
with myself. In comes Legends Never Die...
LND offered more to PC then NMS could, at least me and my other
co's agreed. I sought to seek a peaceful end to my relationship
with Master1 and NMS.. even offering to keep NMS leech accounts on
my site.
But as soon as I told them that I made a business decision (which
is what it is when you own a $20,000 site), Master1 claimed to have
created my site and said he was going to ruin it now that I left.
Pretty mature attitude eh? He told me he was going to remove half
the support from PC and was going to make it worth shit and was
never gonna log in again.
NS a co-siteop, asked him if we should remove NMS accounts on the
site... He said yes. So we did. Then I find out he changed his
story again. See, I just couldn't trust him anymore. Master1 was
the one who insisted XDC was dead, he was the one who hacked
root... How can one stay in a group who's leader is a constant
liar? Now he says I deleted his account. He didn't even earn all of
the megs upped on the site. (Though to his credit he earned most of
them)
I just wanted to go our own separate ways like adults. He had to
bring it to this level of childish bickering. He didn't create the
site. The users did, and anyone that takes that credit away from
the users is just an ass. And like I told him... it's my site. I
pay for it. I run it. I take the risks involved with it. He has no
right, nor does anyone else have the right to tell me or any other
siteop what he should or should not do. He could have stayed on the
site with leech. He chose not to.
DEFACTO2: Master1 was the person who uploaded the first gigabite worth of
files to Pirates Cove, don't you think it was unfair to nuke his
account?
COMWOOD: He wanted it deleted. What would you do if someone told you he was
going to ruin your site? I would have been happy to give him leech
and have a happy ending to it. He said and I quote "No member of
NMS is ever going to log in there again".
DEFACTO2: True deleting accounts from a site is nothing, but you can ruin
a site without access?
COMWOOD: Oh I agree. But we asked him if we should delete the NMS accounts
then he said yes (paraphrasing his exact words).
DEFACTO2: What if you are wrong, what if he is innocent and did not hack you?
COMWOOD: I could be wrong... But I believe he tried to pawn it off on XDC
and then said that he had hacked it with "good intentions". How do
you hack with good intentions?
DEFACTO2: Tell our readers who or what "XDC" is.
COMWOOD: XDC was a user I made in charge of my security (very close friends
with Master1). He pulled this fake death thing on the scene(2) and I
killed him from the site because of that. He had many people upset
and Master1 knew about it and tried to convince me afterwards that
XDC had nothing to do with it. The two of them are trouble together.
Too much for me.
DEFACTO2: Your site is now co World Head Quarters for LND. Don't you think
it's very stupid having two WHQ for one group?
COMWOOD: Yea but isn't the idea of Courier WHQ, US HQ, European HQ etc.
just as idiotic? CO-WHQ is something new we're giving a try.
Nothing to make big fuss over. Also takes the load off the site
when a release comes out cause you always know it's going to be
on one site or the other when it's out. But like I said, we're
just experimenting.
DEFACTO2: You know perfectly well the reasons for a Courier HQ, WHQ, EHQ etc.
but to have two WHQ on the net is just a silly idea. But I can
accept your view, we know that you most likely didn't want anything
less then a World HeadQuarters status, and seeing LND already had
a WHQ you decided to try two WHQ's. Agreed?
COMWOOD: In a nutshell, yeah.
DEFACTO2: Thanks for your time, any last works or greets before we go?
COMWOOD: Yeah, out to Elmo and Nightsky. They have as much to do with the
success of the site as I do. I just wish everyone could just get
along without fighting all the time. It solves nothing and just
creates more problems.
(1) Pirates Cove is the World Headquarters for Reflux, Empire and co-WHQ
for Legends Never Die.
(2) Some people claimed that XDC died in a road accident after New Years.
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Interview with Crazy
Conducted by Saint Tok
SWMP hacked, Rapiers view.
DEFACTO2: Welcome again Crazy, tell about the resent troubles between
Rapier and SWMP?
CRAZY: Well one person from Rapier was pissed at Bush(1) and passed his
login and password on the private rapier channel, so some kid
logged into his account and totally fucked his account. Some people
from Rapier and others groups also logged in. SWMP was not IP
checking at this time, anyone was able to log into bush's account,
DEFACTO2: Did you ever find out who this kid was?
CRAZY: Yes, REAL gave it on the private Rapier channel, so some Rapier
and non Rapier people tried Bush's account on SWMP and it's was
working and so they totally fucked his account.
DEFACTO2: What has happened to Real since then?
CRAZY: I don't see him on the Net anymore, but as soon as I reach him, I
will kick him out of Rapier. I don't want this kind of people in my
group, we got accused because of one person.
DEFACTO2: You said "in my group", I thought Rapier has more leaders then just
yourself.
CRAZY: Yes three others lead with me, but they are not really informed
about this problem because they are busy in real life. So I take
care of it. All seniors of Rapier know about it but the leaders
have not been here lately.
DEFACTO2: Is everything clear in Rapier now? After this incident a lot of
people are mad at Rapier, especially the siteop of Swmp. He was
mad as hell.
CRAZY: Nothing is really clear, I cant reach REAL but as soon as I see
him, Im gonna kick him out of Rapier. Yes Swedemike was mad and I
understood his attitude, it's really lame to doing this. Well the
scene got too many new kid's nowadays. I've talked with Swedemike
and we will fix everything really soon.
DEFACTO2: What can you tell us about Rapier in general?
CRAZY: Well Rapier is a good group. We have good net couriers and overall
a great team. We reformed in September and we have kicked ass
already. We are a friendly group, I love this group.
DEFACTO2: Any comments or greets before we go?
CRAZY: Okay I just want to let everyone know that this bad thing with
Swmp will not happened again. I am really sorry about it.
Some greet goes out to Jimmy Jamez, Tok, Eviltea, Mach1
Stingray, Mercury, Lester, and all people I forgot :)
(1) Read the Bush interview in this issue for further information.
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Interview with Crazy
Conducted by Saint-Tok
Leaving Devotion and Xforce
DEFACTO2: Please introduce yourself to our readers please and what are your
current and past affiliations?
CRAZY: I am Crazy and I am currently in Rapier and Class, I was in few
groups including RISC, Amnesia, Devotion, X-force and Sodom.
DEFACTO2: Why have you recently left Devotion and X-force?
CRAZY: Devotion is the best group of courier nowadays, I love this group
but I left them for good, me and nine cant get along in a same
group and I decided to quit devotion cuz I think nine was more
important for them than me since I don't trade anymore, and I still
have all my friend here and dizzident understood the situation.
DEFACTO2: Why can't you cope being in the same group as Nine?
CRAZY: Ok in fact me and nine cant get along in a same group for some
reason people don't need to know. so I didn't wanted to start fight
public on the channel cuz this group Devotion is the best in my
mind and have really good relation.
DEFACTO2: Okay, tell us why you left X-Force?
CRAZY: Ok about X-force, I quit them RECENTLY after 6 or 7 months. I was
co-leader, and recently few problem happened. But I got few
friends in X-force and I don't want to blast this group in any way.
They are good and I wish the best for them in the future. The
problem has started when many newbie got accepted in X-force
.
DEFACTO2: Why didn't leaders listen you when you disagreed about accepting
newbies?
CRAZY: I Told them about few ways.. but they told me always you need to
LISTEN and approve your leadership, so I was disagree.
DEFACTO2: Let's talk about scene in general, what are your favorite groups
(util, game or courier) and why are they so?
CRAZY: My favorite courier group is Devotion for sure. I love them cuz
they know what is friendship and respect. But you know I am Rapier
leader so I love them also :))
My favorite games groups is Class, I used to be in Prestige but
they are dead. Shadow Master is a great leader but many people
hate him maybe because he is the best supplier of games. Class is
the best forever.
As for utils there are many groups that are good and I respect
groups such as Drink or Die, X-force, Pirates with Attitude, Sodom
and Legends Never Die, they are all good.
DEFACTO2: Just before we go how is Class going, we have seen a fair few
releases from them lately?
CRAZY: You know CLASS is a new game group formed in 1997. They have
already released a few titles this yeah. They maybe new but very
soon they will be number one. Of cause to me they are already
the best. Class being formed by Shadow Master again will rox
just as Prestige did in 1996.
DEFACTO2: Any comments about our magazine Defacto2 and some greets before we
we go?
CRAZY: I've read the first issue of DF2, seems a great mag with good
organization, not like Reality Check Network (bullshit mag) who
where here to try to get into fights between certain groups and
tell lies.
I want to great some friends: Stingray, Mach One, Immortal
Jimmy Jamez, Zer0_T, Hawkeye, Lester and all other people I
forget :)
Note: Since this interview was conducted Crazy left Rapier just before
they died.
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Interview with The Crazy Little Punk
Conducted by Saint Tok
Reflux Dominates the Newyear.
DEFACTO2: I believe everyone already knows you so you don't need to introduce
yourself. How New Year for Reflux?
TKLP: Well we closed down releasing for the last week or so in December
96 to plan for the new Year. We debuted at midnight for the new
year with 5 releases. We did extremely well I believe in January
until the end of the month with the busts, etc. We did 3 releases
today (2/9/97) and are ready to do a lot more now that things have
blown over.
DEFACTO2: I noticed that Razor1911, Class and Hybrid are doing a bit and
Reflux release out a lot of games. I can't say for sure about
quality because I did not check them by myself, but I have not
seen any dupes, or unworkable releases. What was the reason of
success in January of 97?
TKLP: Motivation, Dedication, Loyalty, and Organization is what lead
us to it.
DEFACTO2: But why only now has it happened?
TKLP: Busy time for the leaders, (myself and Tai Pan) and the not very
good member/senior support or organization on who's going for what
releases. But all that has been taken care of, that's why we are
doing so well.
DEFACTO2: After "Cyber Strike" a lot of the public group channels went to
invite only, including #reflux, why haven't you reopened your
channel?
TKLP: Well if the feds are going to watch us, they'll get into our
channel secretly and not let us know it. Invite only isn't going
to keep them out.
DEFACTO2: What is your personal opinion about Cyber Strike, you believe they
will start some busts on sites soon?
TKLP: It all depends on...
1) if the feds are satisfied so far .
2) what lamers siteops let on their sites.
3) how much the IP gets out/how big the site.
4) if the site is making money from warez.
5) if the site doesn't use a ip bouncer or firewall.
DEFACTO2: Has anyone from Reflux been busted?
TKLP: No, not from Cyberstrike.
DEFACTO2: What do you think about electronic magazines?
TKLP: I think, like all EMags that publicly distribute themselves, are
BAD. Emags should ONLY be given to people who are something in the
scene. Not every Joe Smith out there on the net. That's how Feds get
a lot of their info. Warez mags should be completely UNDERGROUND.
That's why I don't think highly of ANM/RCN/AFT/ETC.
DEFACTO2: Well I hope we don't go that way. Lets hope Reflux releases the
best game for February. Any last words before we go?
TKLP: Yeah, the way of the reflux: Pain Is Temporary, But Pride Is
Forever!
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Interview with Zero Tolerance
Conducted by Saint Tok
Zero Tolerance Leaving Rapier
DEFACTO2: Please introduce yourself to the Defacto2 readers.
ZERO TOL: Hi readers, my name is [Zer0_T] on IRC and it's short for Zero
Tolerance. My current affils are Amnesia net trader and Legends
Never Die net trader.
DEFACTO2: You where in Rapier not so long ago, and you where probably their
best courier. Why did you leave Rapier?
ZERO TOL: Well I don't know about being the best, I am rather modest :)),
but I was one of their more active traders. I joined RPR about 2-3
months ago. Then I was on like a couple of semi-decent sites.
Little by little a traded and got added to bigger and better
sites.. Well to make it short I though I would never leave RPR.
I thought I would be the last one left in the group if it ever died
cause like loyalty and shit is important to me. If you've ever
looked at a Rapier NFO, you would see that Rapier is a group based
on friendship and loyalty.
Well last week, we were in the Rapier secret channel (which is not
so secret anymore) just messing around with a few of the mates, when
suddenly out of the blue, one of the Rapier traders (I wont say his
nick) messaged me and like told me to fuck off and shit. I mean this
was a dude who was like one of my best friends in the group from the
start and just suddenly turned on me.
So, like I tried talking to him to see what was up with him, and he
just continued to like freak out and tell me shit like "never talk
to me again" and "we are through as friends" which sort of upsetted
me. He was like get lost etc... so that's what I did. I left!
DEFACTO2: I heard you left the group without giving notice, why didn't you
tell anyone?
ZERO TOL: Well I don't know what you've heard from Hawk or Sam or any of the
other leaders, but I explained to Hawk when I had a chat with him
two days after this happened. I told him why I left, this incident
was like the cherry on the cake. There where problems in Rapier's
developing for about 2 weeks before. Leaders were never in the
channel, siteops were bitching about lack of support on sites and
were threatening to leave the group.
When I approached one of the leaders at the time with these problems
he just set himself away and went to play Diablo or whatever net
game he was hooked on!
This was a common occurrence. Cq had not been on IRC for over four
weeks and Hawk was there only once every 2 weeks. Sam was there on
a daily basis could never be reached because he was playing Diablo
24/7, instead of taking care of his group. Many Rapier couriers
were upset with him and have threatened to leave.
DEFACTO2: I can imagine that you were upset with Rapiers internal problems
and this rubbish from your ex-friend was the icing on the cake.
But don't you think that every group can have it's up and down
times. Maybe if you waited it out the group would have sorted it's
self out? Don't you also think that leaving Rapier without talking
to the leaders first was a bit of a rash response on your side?
I'm sure the leaders could have sorted this person out even if it
meant that he had to be kicked from the group.
ZERO TOL: Well I was a senior in Rapier and if you asked Sam I had all the
power in the group to act as a leader. I was able to accept whoever
I wanted and kick whoever I wanted at anytime. Even Sam could tell
you that. You are right, all groups have their ups and downs, and I
know Rapier was in that mode. But like I said, the shit that was
told to me by this "so-called" friend was too much. Friendship to me
is very important, and what was said had upsetted me a lot. This
person has tried messaging me often on IRC since this incident
trying to excuse himself, but I simply ignore him. He even admits
making the mistake and being wrong. Of cause this might sound
pathetic and boring to some readers, but people that know me will
tell you that I am a very friendly guy.. I don't look for trouble
unless it looks for me.
DEFACTO2: Why did you join Amnesia after leaving Rapier?
ZERO TOL: When I left Rapier I did so with no intention of joining a courier
group for a while. I refused all offers from groups for six days,
then I decided to join one. I had hunged out in #amnesia for a while
and the people there made me feel right at home, they were very
friendly to me. So after almost one week of idling on IRC I decided
to join up with them. I want to emphasize though, that I did not
leave Rapier to join Amnesia. When I left RPR I wasn't thinking of
joining any group, actually I had RPR people offer me ideas of
starting a new group with some other friends and stuff, including
CRAZY (heheh I want to see his reaction when he sees his name
mentioned :)). But I quickly lost interest in that idea due to the
great number of groups out there.
DEFACTO2: What country are you from?
ZERO TOL: I'm from Canada.
DEFACTO2: What is your opinion of "Cyber Strike" and has it effect you in
anyway?
ZERO TOL: Well Canada hasn't been hit by it, not yet at least. It's been
mostly our southern bordered friends the USA. But I don't no, it's
got people all freaked out and shit. But they haven't done anything
to sites or traders as far as I know! I think people are just
over-reacting over a few BBS busts.
In my area code there where seven BBS's that where busted two years
ago. It totally wrecked the scene there. Cyber Strike had five BBS's
busted in the whole country I believe, so you can see the
difference! I think it was just there to tell the software pirates
that the cops are watching and stuff, but they well know that this
has grown to big to be stoped. Their busts just put a small dent in
warez, we will recover shortly and be back on track as before!
DEFACTO2: Thanks for you time, any last greets or final words?
ZERO TOL: I'd like to greet all my buds on IRC, they know who they are, and
tell certain individuals in RAPIER to stop acting like asses and
shit. I still have many friends left in that group, and a couple
of them are trying to break off this friendship so I ask them to
chill. Bye to all :)
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Legends Never Die Vs Sodom
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Not that long ago Legends Never Die released a pre-release beta of
Vermilion FTPD (see the nfo capture below). Apparently LND has no
crackers who are willing or are capable of creating a quality serial
crack. They instead decided to use Sodom's crack which was made for
an older version of the same program. They where even kind enough to
to mention Sodom in their NFO of the release (though they only used
the abbreviated form, SDM).
(LND part NFO for their Vermillion FTP Daemon pre-release.)
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� Cracked by: SDM (SN generator) Serial/Protection: SN generator �
� Packaged by: Watch Dog Overall Rating: [XXXXXXXXXO] �
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When I found out about this I asked a leader from LND why they used a
Sodom crack without permission, they gave us a simple reply...
"Guys, we are best, and we was fast, so don't cry that you did not release
it". Now this is not the point, I don't think they can or are willing to
accept the fact that the stole a crack. Next they said "We where smart and
put SDM as cracker, next time we don't go to do that". After which I laugh,
does this mean they are going to steal more cracks? And they still didn't
understand the problem, and I still believe they don't understand.
Maybe they have no idea about the scene tradition, maybe it's not the whole
group but only a few selected members. But it's not acceptable to steal
other peoples work with out first gaining their permission, in which case
it's not stealing anymore but borrowing or using.
Legends Never Die Vs Sodom Part II
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Sodom (the group I am the leader of) released a big release. A release
that was over the standard disk limit for utility releases (our release
was 150megs). Everyone understood that this release could and would be
nuked on some sites. Firstly because it was a Novell release and secondly
because it was over the disk limit. But before spreading this release I
personally spoke to the siteops of LND's sites and asked their permission
to upload this release to their sites. They said it was okay and everything
seemed fine.
Once we started spreading this release the LND leaders decided to flex
some muscle (because of the above incident) and show Sodom who has the
power. They sent a message to their siteops saying to nuke that Sodom
shit since you are LND.
So the siteop's did what they where asked and nuked the release, their
reason being and I quote "BIG". This in my opinion is stupid, not because
these siteops nuked the release on request but because they nuked it
after saying it was okay to be uploaded to their sites. It kind of makes
them look stupid and it makes me wonder if the siteops are just puppets
for their affiliated leaders.
A siteop has the right to do what they wish to their site. If they allow
a release to their site and someone does not like it the siteop's should
not be forced into nuking it just because it was released by an opposing
group. Why should a group decide what a siteop allows on their site?
After this incident a few couriers asked the siteop's involved to remove
their accounts from the siteop's sites because of these siteops lied to
them about this release.
Written by Saint-Tok.
Rewritten by IPggi.
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THE GAME REVIEW MONTHLY SUMMARY FOR DEFACTO2
( January / February )
Welcome to The Game Review Monthly Summary. This report will go through TGR's
reviews to bring you the best games of the month. Due to size restrictions we
will only give you quotes from the reviews, if the game sounds interesting go and get
the full TGR and read the full review. But this reports main purpose will
be to list the best game of the month for both Windows and DOS format and to
also name the best group of the month. The best group will be decided on who
has the highest number of quality releases. These awards will be based on the
reviews done by TGR (not including guess reviews). Hopefully will we will use
this system to eventually work out the best group of the year when the time
comes.
IPggi.
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(60-69)/100 = Pretty decent game. Might want to check it out.
(70-79)/100 = Worth the download if you like that type.
(80-89)/100 = Very good, 9 out of 10 its worth the download.
(90-99)/100 = Excellent game, a MUST download.
100/100 = Ecstasy on your hard drive.
RATINGS are based on the game idea, graphics, sound, playability, ingenuity,
versatility, and a lot of other words ending in `ity'. These games are based
on what happens on the TGR computers only, unless stated otherwise. TGR
always first follows .nfo directions, and if those don't work or are not
available, they then try other ways.
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INTO THE VOID (c) PIE [33/33]
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"I couldn't agree more with the Razor.nfo when they say: "Can I say Master of
Orion 2 clone? YES! Only smaller..." This is just like MOO2, except it is
a lot better, has music, better graphics and a lot cooler all around."
RATING: 68/100
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Scrabble (xx/13)
-Filenames: EPI-SCR?.ZIP
"When I first saw this, I figured, it would be some barely english, really low
level budget scrabble game. And, OH BOY, HOW THRILLED I was to have the
opportunity to review that. But then to my surprisement, I found out that
this was actually a very good, english, quality scrabble game, from the
original "Scrabble (tm)" makers themselves."
RATING: 64/100
DAWN PATROL 2: FLYING CORPS [XX/33]
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"It's a definite must if you have a love for flight-sim games. But if you
don't, you won't get much enjoyment out of it. With plenty of missions and
lots of scenarios, you won't get bored quickly."
RATING: 73/100
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DIE HARD TRILOGY [XX/30]
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FileNames: CLSDHT??.ZIP
Release Date: 22 JAN 1997
"All three games have pretty good/funny voice remarks that come up when you
get shot, or do something wrong.. Also this could've very easily been one of
those monstrous 50 disk rips, but I feel this one was ripped really good.
Dare I say it?? Good job guys."
POINTS: 86 -Decently ripped, good grafix, and cool gameplay. If you have a
shitty system, don't try this at home!
VIRTUAL POOL for Windows 95 [XX/02]
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FileNames: CLSVP95??.ZIP
Release Date: 22 JAN 1997
"The object of the game is pool (duh!).. Plain and simple. You can do just
about everything you can in a pool hall, with the exception of laying yer
cigarette on the table."
POINTS: 84 -Fuck man, it's 2 disks and kept me occupied for over an hour.
Sega Rally Championship (c) Sega [01/08]
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Release Date: 16 JAN 1997
"It's pretty much exactly like Network-Q rally was, with the co-pilot telling
you which way the next turn is and shit. So this one really ain't nothing too
special.."
"Really the only thing that saved this release was that it was only 8 disks.
So I gotta give it a few points for that."
POINTS: 75 -Decent grafix, easy to play, easy to leech, and easy to beat :(
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Helicops (c) Paragon Soft. [01/33]
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Release Date: 12 FEB 1997
"As far as leechability goes, it's definately a unique game, something I
really haven't seen before, but it is rather frustrating at times. It just
seems like the helicopter doesn't go as fast as it should, and that whole deal
with the altitude change sucks too."
POINTS: 64 -Nice grafix (mostly), but just really isn't a fast, seat of your
pants type of game like you'd expect.
G-Nome (c) 7th Level Inc. [40/40]
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Release Date: 10 FEB 1997
"Probably the coolest thing about this is that you can get out of your Mech
and walk around. In the off chance your mech gets blown up, you don't die,
you just get auto-ejected out of your mech. When that happens, the other guy
gets out of his mech and ya go man to man with grenades and a laser rifle.
If you happen to beat him, well, hey, free enemy mech to strut around in!"