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[2021-08-12T00:01:03Z] <msk[m]> any packaged japanese font? [2021-08-12T00:06:29Z] <noocsharp> japanese is bloat just use english [2021-08-12T00:10:08Z] <msk[m]> other way around [2021-08-12T00:10:55Z] <GalaxyNova> ye unicode is bloat all we need is 256 characters [2021-08-12T00:21:18Z] <msk[m]> nevermind, I installed a font manually [2021-08-12T00:24:42Z] <msk[m]> Noto Sans JP [2021-08-12T02:20:58Z] <m3g> whatever happened to emacs in repo :( I suppose no wayland yet [2021-08-12T02:36:37Z] <GalaxyNova> How do i switch my install to use localtime instead of UTC time [2021-08-12T02:55:20Z] <GalaxyNova> and set a timezone [2021-08-12T02:57:32Z] <GalaxyNova> nvm [2021-08-12T02:57:37Z] <msk[m]> This https://kisslinux.org/wiki/software/tzdata works for me [2021-08-12T02:57:42Z] <msk[m]> Oh [2021-08-12T03:02:54Z] <GalaxyNova> yep [2021-08-12T03:07:37Z] <m3g> tzdata [2021-08-12T03:07:41Z] <m3g> oop [2021-08-12T03:17:39Z] <GalaxyNova> m3g: Do you know any way to change from UTC time to localtime? [2021-08-12T03:47:51Z] <testuser[m]> Hi [2021-08-12T03:48:58Z] <acheam> Hi! [2021-08-12T03:49:26Z] <acheam> If you ever stop saying "Hi" every day, idk what I would do [2021-08-12T03:49:40Z] <acheam> its a nice constant [2021-08-12T04:20:10Z] <m3g> oh I just read lwn.net/Articles/843896 [2021-08-12T04:22:18Z] <m3g> maybe a no-x fork.. [2021-08-12T04:51:52Z] <m3g> sway seems to have a silly default config [2021-08-12T04:54:24Z] <noocsharp> i think the goal is to do exactly what i3 does, but in wayland [2021-08-12T04:56:05Z] <m3g> how do you make it use bemenu instead? I started spawning processes that would idle to load 1 and never die [2021-08-12T04:56:19Z] <m3g> Still trying to get used to wayland [2021-08-12T05:01:44Z] <m3g> also wonder what happened to tor package, only needed to change libressl to openssl depend, builds fine [2021-08-12T05:09:47Z] <acheam> not exactly what i3 does [2021-08-12T05:09:53Z] <acheam> it has some more features [2021-08-12T05:10:05Z] <acheam> and ootb some settings are differnt I think [2021-08-12T05:11:43Z] <acheam> https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/Differences-from-i3 [2021-08-12T05:28:42Z] <testuser[m]> where does wl-copy store it's buffer ? even if you clear it it takes up memory [2021-08-12T05:29:06Z] <testuser[m]> oh its in /tmp [2021-08-12T05:49:03Z] <acheam> ew [2021-08-12T05:49:11Z] <acheam> gtk emacs? no thankyou [2021-08-12T05:49:34Z] <acheam> oh I was scrolled up, that was in response to m3gs message [2021-08-12T05:50:10Z] <testuser[m]> Can anyone running sway with busybox mdev replugin their keyboard [2021-08-12T06:09:57Z] <testuser[m]> it looks like when i repeatedly tap some keys on my kb it gets disconnected and reconnected instantly and sway doesnt like it and kb input just dies until i restart sway [2021-08-12T06:39:03Z] <m3g> I can't even connect external peripherals [2021-08-12T06:39:09Z] <m3g> but that's on my kernel config [2021-08-12T06:39:10Z] <m3g> lol [2021-08-12T06:56:48Z] <midfavila-laptop> time-zone appropriate greetings, #kisslinux [2021-08-12T06:56:58Z] <testuser[m]> HI [2021-08-12T06:57:00Z] <testuser[m]> i [2021-08-12T06:57:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> iIH [2021-08-12T13:53:36Z] <acheam> edmrk: could you consider leaving emacs open? [2021-08-12T14:44:34Z] <micro_O> o/ [2021-08-12T14:46:24Z] <testuser[m]> hi [2021-08-12T14:49:34Z] <acheam> good morning micro_O [2021-08-12T15:13:59Z] <acheam> noocsharp: i vaguely remember you mentioning julia at some point, what are your thoughts on it? [2021-08-12T15:14:34Z] <acheam> im considering learning it as I get more and more into scientific computing [2021-08-12T15:19:34Z] <acheam> although im changing my mind now that I read that it is 1-indexed, not 0-indexed [2021-08-12T15:19:36Z] <acheam> lol [2021-08-12T15:20:05Z] <micro_O> 1 index for humans, 0 index for computers [2021-08-12T15:20:27Z] <micro_O> added git-bug for error tracking, so now issues/features/discussions are not tied to github http://0x0.st/-Jv7.png [2021-08-12T15:20:36Z] <acheam> nice [2021-08-12T15:20:46Z] <acheam> wait wwhat is the difference between the remainder operator and modulus [2021-08-12T15:24:05Z] <acheam> oh it has to do with signage [2021-08-12T15:35:39Z] <testuser[m]> What's a signage [2021-08-12T15:35:51Z] <testuser[m]> Oh you mean the sign of the result [2021-08-12T15:36:38Z] <acheam> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13683563/whats-the-difference-between-mod-and-remainder [2021-08-12T15:37:02Z] <acheam> in C and Julia, % is the remainder, wheras in Python, % is modulo [2021-08-12T15:43:17Z] <m3g> I have left emacs open but it and dependencies isn't in my computer :( [2021-08-12T16:32:44Z] <duplex> I'm still trying to get sway to work [2021-08-12T16:33:14Z] <duplex> When I start sway I get yellow background and no bar or anything and no shortcuts work [2021-08-12T16:33:40Z] <duplex> https://termbin.com/nt6j [2021-08-12T16:33:52Z] <duplex> That's why log with verbose enabled [2021-08-12T16:33:56Z] <duplex> *my [2021-08-12T16:54:52Z] <claudia02> duplex: Have you installed a font? Having no font available can make issues to not start a terminal and prob issues with the bar 2. [2021-08-12T17:00:18Z] <duplex> What is the list of fonts I can install [2021-08-12T17:00:30Z] <duplex> Also installing a font just installing a package [2021-08-12T17:00:31Z] <soliwilos> duplex: Is /dev/dri/card0 owned by root:video and is your user in the video group? [2021-08-12T17:01:33Z] <claudia02> duplex: 'kiss s *font* [2021-08-12T17:02:46Z] <claudia02> ' [2021-08-12T17:03:08Z] <rio6> oh what kiss s supports * [2021-08-12T17:03:24Z] <duplex> It just returned fontconfig [2021-08-12T17:03:31Z] <rio6> til [2021-08-12T17:03:42Z] <duplex> My user is in video group and how do I check the first thing [2021-08-12T17:04:16Z] <soliwilos> "ls -l /dev/dri" [2021-08-12T17:04:27Z] <claudia02> duplex: oh, my bad. There is 'ttf-crosscore' in the mainrepot try that instead :p [2021-08-12T17:04:53Z] <duplex> It video in the output [2021-08-12T17:04:59Z] <duplex> So I'd assume yes [2021-08-12T17:05:52Z] <duplex> That package isn't found [2021-08-12T17:07:03Z] <claudia02> navigate to repo/extra/ttf-... [2021-08-12T17:07:36Z] <soliwilos> It's ttf-croscore [2021-08-12T17:07:52Z] <duplex> That worked [2021-08-12T17:08:29Z] <duplex> Sway works now! [2021-08-12T17:08:31Z] <claudia02> I think dylan will adress this documentation issue once his new website is live. https://github.com/kisslinux/website/issues/85 [2021-08-12T17:08:38Z] <duplex> Thanks for the help! [2021-08-12T17:09:08Z] <claudia02> heh. Np :p [2021-08-12T17:11:46Z] <duplex> New issue. Foot's text is all jumbled/compressed [2021-08-12T17:16:59Z] <soliwilos> You may need to create/edit ~/.config/foot/foot.ini [2021-08-12T17:17:10Z] <soliwilos> It has a font setting. [2021-08-12T17:23:47Z] <duplex> I'll look into that in a bit [2021-08-12T17:23:55Z] <duplex> For now how do I shutdown kiss lol [2021-08-12T17:24:09Z] <duplex> Shutdown isn't a command so now I'm confused [2021-08-12T17:24:59Z] <duplex> Found it nvm [2021-08-12T17:35:26Z] <testuser[m]> kall [2021-08-12T17:48:51Z] <noocsharp> i've never used julia, but from the outside it seems like a better alternative to python for scientific computing [2021-08-12T19:04:20Z] <duplex> does anyone have a KISS friendly office suite they can recommend [2021-08-12T19:06:30Z] <m3g> ok, emacs-nox built for now... [2021-08-12T19:21:23Z] <duplex> has anyone pacakged libreoffice for kiss? [2021-08-12T19:23:56Z] <GalaxyNova> I think so [2021-08-12T19:24:26Z] <GalaxyNova> https://github.com/eudaldgr/kiss-garbage/tree/master/office [2021-08-12T19:27:00Z] <duplex> it is not libreoffice however it seems to be a good alternative [2021-08-12T19:31:01Z] <acheam> yeah thats not libreoffice [2021-08-12T19:31:11Z] <acheam> abiword is decent though [2021-08-12T19:35:38Z] <duplex> I might pacakge libreoffice tho [2021-08-12T19:35:56Z] <duplex> I can't have too many deficiencies [2021-08-12T19:36:00Z] <duplex> *it [2021-08-12T19:39:29Z] <duplex> I uh stand corrected [2021-08-12T19:39:44Z] <duplex> just the core package as 59 dependancies [2021-08-12T19:56:16Z] <acheam> lol libreoffice is *HUGE* [2021-08-12T19:56:23Z] <acheam> why do you think nobodies packaged it? [2021-08-12T20:05:34Z] <acheam> technically it only supports glibc [2021-08-12T20:05:38Z] <acheam> also it requires java [2021-08-12T20:05:47Z] <acheam> idk what version though [2021-08-12T20:06:17Z] <acheam> looks like dbus can be disabled at least [2021-08-12T20:32:22Z] <acheam> they got it to run on Haiku though, so maybe anything is possible [2021-08-12T20:33:12Z] <acheam> interesting libreoffice has its own gui abstraction toolkit [2021-08-12T20:33:19Z] <acheam> would be cool to factor out [2021-08-12T20:33:29Z] <GalaxyNova> onlyoffice is nice [2021-08-12T20:33:35Z] <acheam> why? [2021-08-12T20:33:41Z] <acheam> oh onlyoffice [2021-08-12T20:33:43Z] <acheam> yeah its cool [2021-08-12T20:33:46Z] <acheam> I thought you said openoffice [2021-08-12T20:34:22Z] <acheam> https://archive.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/ode_haiku would be a good thing to watch for any potential porters [2021-08-12T20:50:44Z] <GalaxyNova> hi ecs [2021-08-12T20:50:50Z] <GalaxyNova> Guest780 [2021-08-12T20:52:31Z] <ecs> hello [2021-08-12T20:53:54Z] <GalaxyNova> Anyone set up an imap / smpt server before? [2021-08-12T21:00:38Z] <acheam> fancy seeing you here, ecs [2021-08-12T21:01:06Z] <acheam> GalaxyNova: yes many people here have before, what is your question? [2021-08-12T21:09:26Z] <GalaxyNova> what's a good imap and smtp server [2021-08-12T21:21:55Z] <acheam> opensmtpd [2021-08-12T21:22:43Z] <omanom> You can read a little about the choices made for the mailing list here: http://dilyn.cc/blog/Server-Mail [2021-08-12T21:23:08Z] <acheam> woah dilyn.cc? [2021-08-12T21:23:12Z] <acheam> fancy fancy fancy [2021-08-12T21:23:55Z] <acheam> wow thanks for the credit for being the one who pestered you once a day about this. smh [2021-08-12T21:24:48Z] <acheam> whining is a job too [2021-08-12T21:27:57Z] <omanom> i personally use mailinabox because i'm too lazy/incompetent to learn all the individual pieces and do it "right" [2021-08-12T21:28:26Z] <noocsharp> https://poolp.org/posts/2019-09-14/setting-up-a-mail-server-with-opensmtpd-dovecot-and-rspamd/ <-- useful [2021-08-12T21:29:33Z] <GalaxyNova> also what do you htink about bpytop [2021-08-12T21:30:17Z] <noocsharp> i think that you should care less about the opinions of people here and make your own judgement calls [2021-08-12T21:31:23Z] <GalaxyNova> aha, but you see! [2021-08-12T21:31:32Z] <GalaxyNova> I don't have any judgement calls :P [2021-08-12T21:41:31Z] <acheam> do you like the software? [2021-08-12T21:42:04Z] <GalaxyNova> no [2021-08-12T21:42:26Z] <acheam> well there ya go