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2019-11-19T00:02:26 #kisslinux <E5ten> my inability to compile xf86-input-synaptics is now the only thing keeping eudev on my system, can the guy please fix the bug already :)
2019-11-19T01:41:09 #kisslinux <tridactyla> E5ten: i maintain branch of libinput with no udev dependency, if you're interested
2019-11-19T01:42:28 #kisslinux <tridactyla> https://github.com/oasislinux/libinput
2019-11-19T01:43:37 #kisslinux <tridactyla> probably needs a few tweaks to meson.build (i use a separate build system), but the code builds fine
2019-11-19T02:06:03 #kisslinux <tridactyla> xf86-input-synaptics is dead: https://youtu.be/BrV0daB1Zsk?t=1868
2019-11-19T03:56:59 #kisslinux <konimex> clang test build with libcxx{abi,} succeeded
2019-11-19T03:57:07 #kisslinux <konimex> ...but it segfaulted on run
2019-11-19T03:57:45 #kisslinux <E5ten> not interested in libinput at all, I don't care if synaptics is dead, libinput is ass for trackpads and I'm gonna use what works well, whether it's dead or not
2019-11-19T03:58:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> also whoops I meant xf86-video-intel, mixed up 2 of the X drivers on my system
2019-11-19T03:58:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> I'd probably be interested in libinput if I actually couldn't build synaptics but I was talking about the wrong component
2019-11-19T04:43:51 #kisslinux <tridactyla> E5ten: why not debug the issue yourself, then send a patch? it would probably be pretty clear with a gdb backtrace or valgrind
2019-11-19T04:48:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> I have no idea how to run xorg directly through gdb
2019-11-19T04:50:43 #kisslinux <tridactyla> you can attach to a running process with `gdb -p $PID /path/to/Xorg`
2019-11-19T04:50:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> but it segfaults immediately
2019-11-19T04:55:32 #kisslinux <tridactyla> probably you'd need to do this in an ssh session from another system, but i think just running `gdb --args /path/to/Xorg :1` should work
2019-11-19T04:56:06 #kisslinux <tridactyla> do you still get the crash if you just run Xorg by itself?
2019-11-19T05:00:29 #kisslinux <E5ten> that's definitely not the issue...the dev said it was clang not making something a compile time constant for offsetof, that wouldn't change whether xorg was called directly or not
2019-11-19T05:10:28 #kisslinux <tridactyla> well, it might change depending on what things are running under Xorg
2019-11-19T09:17:35 #kisslinux <konimex> for some reason ccache doesnt really work here
2019-11-19T11:42:14 #kisslinux <unternet> haven't had a look in a while: the website looks really nice!
2019-11-19T13:57:25 #kisslinux <aminoglycine> does anyone know of a login greeter that doesn't require pam? lightdm does :(
2019-11-19T14:22:35 #kisslinux <qtpie> cdm doesn't requires pam
2019-11-19T14:22:42 #kisslinux <qtpie> it's console based though
2019-11-19T14:24:00 #kisslinux <qtpie> console-tdm and tbsm are also some other console based DMs that don't need PAM
2019-11-19T14:24:01 #kisslinux <aminoglycine> for some reason I've discovered that xorg with _not_ work with virtualbox for me unless it's started by a display manager like lightdm/gdm/etc
2019-11-19T14:24:05 #kisslinux <aminoglycine> otherwise I get a black screen
2019-11-19T15:18:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: will try and find out what's wrong with pkg_conflicts now.
2019-11-19T15:18:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Been at the hospital all day.
2019-11-19T15:21:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tridactyla: Interesting.
2019-11-19T15:21:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> How are you handling devices on your system?
2019-11-19T18:28:34 #kisslinux <tridactyla> dylanaraps: hope nothing too serious
2019-11-19T18:29:22 #kisslinux <tridactyla> my display server runs with a setuid launcher to set/drop DRM master and open/revoke input devices, so for a long time i used devtmpfs and nothing on top of that. the libinput netlink seat i added just listens for uevents to detect additions/removals of input devices
2019-11-19T18:32:26 #kisslinux <tridactyla> more recently, to support hotplug of security keys for the new openssh support, i added a small daemon to read uevents from the kernel, and call a hotplug script for each one (https://github.com/oasislinux/etc/blob/master/hotplug)
2019-11-19T19:13:10 #kisslinux <E5ten> ok I've got rid of udev (but not libudev) and everything's working, so I am now truly at the point where the only thing holding me back from being udev-free is being unable to compile xf86-video-intel, getting super annoyed that this isn't fixed and yes I know I can debug it myself but I don't have time right now I'll probably try later today I guess
2019-11-19T22:56:17 #kisslinux <bluwu> How do you figure out which version of the iwlwifi-x.ucode you should be using?
2019-11-19T23:43:48 #kisslinux <claudia3> bluwu: dmesg | grep wifi
2019-11-19T23:44:56 #kisslinux <claudia3> i have centrino sth 6205
2019-11-19T23:45:01 #kisslinux <ectlunya> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
2019-11-19T23:45:24 #kisslinux <ectlunya> you can find which file to use here
2019-11-19T23:47:49 #kisslinux <bluwu> thanks, both of those suggestions helped to find it
2019-11-19T23:48:01 #kisslinux <claudia3> nice
2019-11-19T23:48:12 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> is it possible to use the initramfs of another distro?
2019-11-19T23:48:44 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> s/?/ to boot up KISS?/