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[users] Name for Gemini-style text with links?

John Cowan cowan at ccil.org

Mon Feb 15 15:31:07 GMT 2021

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 5:54 AM Luke Emmet <luke at marmaladefoo.com> wrote:

Is there a known word for Gemini text-style links?

They are simply hyperlinks because Gemini is hypertext.

Indeed, "hyperlink" is short for "hypertext link"; there were hypertexts(in the sense of texts not necessarily to be read in a linear order) longbefore there were links. The Talmud, the book of Jewish law and culture,is a hypertext, for example. Each page consists of nine sections, laid outin three columns plus margins. In the top of the middle column is theMishna (1), typically a question with some basic possible answers, eachattributed to an early Jewish sage. Below that is the Gemara (2), therecord of a centuries-long discussion and clarification of the Mishna.Here's a fictional example:

MISHNA:* WHEN DOES ONE RECITE *GOODNIGHT MOON*? UNTIL EIGHT. RABBI JUDAHSAYS: UNTIL ONE HOUR BEFORE. RABBI GAMALIEL SAYS: UNTIL MIDNIGHT.

GEMARA: *Until eight? What does that mean? Rav and Shmuel argued. Ravsaid: Until eight in the evening, for it is as my father taught: “No storyfor you, young man, if you’re not in bed by bedtime.” Can it be thatbedtime is eight? Is it not written (Kohelet [Ecclesiastes], 7:30), “ofmaking of bedtimes there is no end”? [The cases of ] Kings are different,as it is written, “And David addressed them, saying: “You kids don’t knowhow good you have it. If I wanted a bedtime psalm growing up, I had towrite it myself.”

Shmuel said, until eight means until eight years old. From where does heget this? As it says in *The Little Midrash [Interpretation] Says What IWant It To*, “And Aaron said to Yochebed his mother, ‘If I hear that stupidstory one more time I swear I’ll kill somebody. Mo is six—can’t he read itto himself?’” How does this teach us anything? Moses was six, and he wantedthe story read to him. Six, but not seven; and the Mishna which says untileight, means up to but not including, so that we read to a seven-year-oldbut not an eight-year-old. But maybe Moses was different? No, we learn thelaw from Aaron, and we do not read aloud in the presence ofeight-year-olds, because of the prohibition of tempting minors to losetheir tempers.

Maybe Aaron was different, because he did all the talking and his brothertook all the credit? No, let us not say that, because it is said of Aaronthat he loved peace and chased peace and loved his brother and chased hisbrother and only once was his brother rushed to the emergency room.

Rabbi Bluto ben Rav Popeye said, “Once I visited the Academy in Pumpeditha.The sages were debating the question of eight inclusively or eightexclusively. For seven years they argued this point, and not once did theyarrive home from the Academy in time to put their children to bed.”

Abaye once told his mother: “I do not want to go to bed. I will run awayand become a Torah scholar and hide in the study hall where you can’t findme and they wouldn’t let you in even if you did.” Said his mother: “If youbecome a Torah scholar and hide in the study hall, then I will be thevending machine that sells you Coca Cola so you can stay up all nightlearning.” “If you are going to dispense soda,” said Abaye, “then I will byall means become a Torah scholar.” And so he did.

Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said, “Better to read two books by Dr. Seuss than toread *Goodnight Moon* once.” It is from here we learn of the prohibition ofktav isha (reading writings written by women).

Every night, Rabbi Bag Bag would recite before his son. His son would say:“Read it again! Read it again! Read it again, Abba! [Father!]”

In the right column of the page is Rashi's commentary (3), the purpose ofwhich is to explain the plain meaning of Mishna and Gemara to students.The left column (4), which extends across the bottom of the center andright columns, contains commentaries from a variety of sources. Squeezedinto the narrow space between the middle and right columns are any Biblicalcross-references (7).

The upper part of the right margin contains cross-references to similarparts of the Talmud (5) near the top; more cross-references, shortdefinitions of hard words, emendations of errors, and references to moderncommentaries (8) are placed further down. The upper part of the leftmargin contains references to major Jewish legal codes compiled from theMishna and the Gemara (6), and the lower part (which extends across thebottom margin) contains any additional commentaries (9).

You can see a single page at <http://murals.wbtla.org/uploads/2/4/7/9/24790045/talmud_layout_(1).pdf>with numbers on the sections.

Hypertext does have to be defined by a markup language, like the web or

Gemini, but it is a good decentralised and scalable solution. Otherwise

you need some sort of centralised system to define the hypertext graph -

fine for small in-house hypertexts, but not scalable.

There is no problem with storing links out-of-band rather than embedded ina document. As long as the links point in one direction only, this isperfectly scalable.

John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan at ccil.orgYou annoy me, Rattray! You disgust me! You irritate me unspeakably!Thank Heaven, I am a man of equable temper, or I should scarcely be ableto contain myself before your mocking visage. --Stalky imitating Macrea-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210215/a0709ea2/attachment-0001.htm>