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Police raids take down The Pirate Bay

But Wikileaks weathers the storm

By Lawrence Latif

Tue Sep 07 2010, 15:17

POLICE RAIDS across Europe have managed to take down popular Bit-torrent

tracking website The Pirate Bay.

The website, which is hosted by the same firm that houses servers for

Wikileaks, was hit hard by the authorities as they moved in on alleged

filesharers armed with nothing more than IP addresses. According to

Torrentfreak, police in 14 countries throughout Europe were involved, including

the United Kingdom.

Talking to the web hosting site PRQ, the firm that provides hosting services to

The Pirate Bay and Wikileaks, it said that five coppers tipped up asking for

the persons using certain IP addresses. The chap from PRQ admitted to handing

over email addresses but added "it is rare that our clients have email

addresses that are traceable".

At the time of writing The Pirate Bay's website is down, though as its tracker

operates on a distributed hash table (DHT), the outage will merely serve to

stop the acquisition of torrent files and not cease actual file sharing itself.

Torrentfreak also got word from a Swedish prosecutor that the raid had nothing

to do with Wikileaks. While The Pirate Bay's website is down, Wikileaks is

still operational, suggesting that for once it isn't the centre of attention

for law enforcement authorities. It is being reported that the police seized a

number of servers during the raids.

Given the noise The Pirate Bay made about the resilience of its hosting, one

wonders how long it will take before the resourceful lads get it back on its

feet.

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stranger

poof!: prostitution will disappear

close down pirate bay... poof!: piracy disappears

right, right?

regardless of your stand on media piracy or prostitution, simply from a law

enforcement point of view that assumes these "vices" are simply something

illegal to be fought: i don't understand why you want to shut the hubs down

its not like shutting down craigslist or pirate bay is going to make piracy or

prostitution go away. instead, you allow craigslist and pirate bay to continue,

and you do your law enforcement job, and monitor the hubs. like shooting fish

in a barrel: just respond to what's there. but without craigslist or the pirate

bay, these "problems" are harder to catch and monitor

its almost as if law enforcement wants to drive these problems back underground

again so they don't have to deal with them. out of sight, out of mind

which shows you the ambivalency with which modern society views stuff like

piracy or prostitution: they are on the cusp of acceptability. its not like

murder or rape, where the illegality of the actions are obvious and therefore

the mandate and willpower to punish perps is 100%. instead, with stuff like

prostitution and piracy, the willpower wanes, the commitment lapses, because

the immorality of the actions is not clearcut

such that the law enforcement campaigns consist less of going after

perpetrators, but just making them go underground and disappear from prominent

view

my use of the word "pirate" is with full knowledge of the discrepancy you refer

to

we are after all talking about the PIRATE bay. we both know the guys who run

that site know full well that the traditional meaning of piracy is a poor

descriptor of what copyright infringement is, but they wear the epithet

"pirate" with pride on the name of their site. when someone smears and insults

you, a good tactic is to take that insult or epithet, and use it yourself with

pride as a descriptor. therefore nullifying the supposed power of the negative

word. a negative becomes a positive. so i proudly call myself a pirate, when i

know the sharing media is nothing like swashbucklers and theft. in this way,

words are always constantly shifting in meaning and implication in popular

culture, and this eventually filters down to dictionary terminology years later

the same can be found in the gay rights movement: "queer" is now a word of

pride. or even right here on slashdot: "nerd" and "geek" are words which were

meant as insults but are now marks of honor. there are many sociological and

political arenas where insults menat to smear, scapegoat, and prejudice are

turned around and used as marks of pride

for example, lately i am trying to proudly refer to myself as a socialist, here

in the usa. socialism in europe is just obvious common sense. but in the usa it

takes on mythic ridiculous proportions of evil, by people who barely understand

the concept (ever hear of library? a highway system? social security?

hellooooo?). such that using the word, as a mark of pride and a

self-descriptor, is almost revolutionary and controversial, here in the usa at

least, when of course, according to a strict interpretation of the meaning of

the word, its completely humdrum