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- Omar Polo <op at omarpolo.com>
@ Tue, 13 Apr 2021 19:07 +0200
Reply to Frank Jüdes <Frank.Juedes at linux4specialists.com>
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Frank Jüdes <Frank.Juedes@linux4specialists.com> writes:
Hi Omar,
For GLV-1.12556 i would have to install lua, a language with which i
am not comfortable at all. Also my Linux Distro doesn't include the
LibreSSL… yes i know you can always configure, make and make install,
but just want to install a gemini-server and not make a phd.
I can sympathise with this. I haven't really even tried to run
GLV-1.12556 because of the steps needed to run it! I have only talked
with Sean some time ago, he pointed out some issues with the CGI
implementation in gmid, and so I took a look at how GLV implements them.
GMID i actually had considered because it is written C meaning it is
/fast/! But i wasn't sure about the CGI capabilities, like which
environment variables are available for CGI programs. If you can help
me out here i will definitely consider gmid for both the production
and my development box and gladly provide you with feedback.
gmid at the moment shares the same problem of GLV-1.12556: it has
LibreSSL as dependency (which I don't regret by the way, it has such a
clean API it's almost a joy to use: compare the code in server.c to the
OpenSSL-specific bits in utils.c!)
[ I've started to develop a library to write Gemini clients and server
that, among other things, has an abstraction over the specific TLS
library: this helps for testing and should help with portability
across different systems I hope. ]
The details of the CGI variable available are documented in the manpage,
under the CGI section, but there is also a test page I'm serving at:
gemini://gemini.omarpolo.com/cgi/env/
I should probably link it in the README. Note: that demo page it's
lacking TLS_VERSION, TLS_CIPHER and TLS_CIPHER_STRENGTH that I committed
early this morning.
There is also a similar page for GLV-1.12556:
gemini://gemini.conman.org/cgi
[ actually, my page is inspired from the GLV-1.12556 one, not the other
way around of course! ]
As for the name GGI: For writing CGI programs /perl/ has been my
favorite language since eons - no discussions about
programming-languages necessary, you cannot master them all and over
the years you develop your favorites - so in perl there is the
"gold-standard" package for CGI programs with the name /CGI.pm/
therefore i could not use the same name for my package. So i named it
/GGI.pm/ no evil intend, no re-inventing the wheel, sheer necessity
for a good and short name.
I think I misunderstood your last mail then, apologies.
Anyway, talking about timing, earlier I was re-writing my `man' CGI
script from rc to Perl! (I'm not familiar at all with the language, but
I'm slowly learning.) If/when your module will be ready, I would like
to play with it. I have a couple of CGI scripts written in different
languages, and I'm slowly re-writing the ones in shell/rc to perl.
On 2021-04-13 11:18, Omar Polo wrote:
> Frank Jüdes <Frank.Juedes@linux4specialists.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Stephane,
>>
>> Thank you very much for the update. That leaves me with three options now:
>>
>> 1. Try again to install Pythron 3.7+ on my stubborn development machine
>> (Oracle Lunix 7…)
>> 2. Learn go really quickly and fork the Molly Brown server - i will
>> call it »the sunken Molly Brown server« in that case
>> 3. Write my own gemini server from scratch in perl
>>
>> It really looks like only Molly Brown and JetForce have a usable
>> CGI-implementation. We should call it GGI, btw: Gemini Gateway
>> Interface to distinguish it from CGI.
> They're definitely not the only one: GLV-1.12556 and gmid (disclaimer:
> I'm the author) have a complete CGI support. GLV-1.12556 has even more
> things, such as SGCI support; and you may want to count vger in that
> list too, even it's a little limited in this regard.
>
> Also, why reinvent the wheel and find another name when the CGI
> specification, modulo one or two environment variables (REQUEST_METHOD -
> and is debatable), maps well to Gemini?
>
>> Best regards from Charleston (WV),
>> Frank/2
>>
>>
>> On 2021-04-13 03:09, Alexis wrote:
>>> Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane@sources.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> I did not find a public issue tracker for MollyBrown, and the one patch
>>>> I sent to the author went unanswered.
>>> i.e. one you don't have to register for? Because otherwise:
>>>
>>> https://tildegit.org/solderpunk/molly-brown/issues
>>>
>>> Still, yeah, Solderpunk isn't around much nowadays; i sent a patch
>>> for the telem BBS in September last year, and i believe it's not yet
>>> applied ....
>>>
>>> (i also submitted a couple of patches for Elpher seven months ago,
>>> adding link numbering, but Elpher's maintainer doesn't seem to be
>>> active either.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Alexis.
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