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My Worry for America: General Michael Hayden

Author: everybodyknows

Score: 29

Comments: 14

Date: 2021-12-03 13:29:56

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more_corn wrote at 2021-12-04 02:10:59:

The single biggest threat to our democracy is the lie that the last presidential election was stolen. The lie shakes confidence in our democracy.

Until the Republican Party renounces that lie and the liars who propagate it, this threat to our democracy will persist.

errantmind wrote at 2021-12-04 02:35:01:

While the election was not stolen, the DNC and MSM didn't do themselves any favors by perpetuating the lie that was 'Russian collision', even after it was thoroughly debunked. I'd say this sunk their chances in the 2022 midterms.

LazarWolf_ wrote at 2021-12-04 05:09:45:

Why is this getting downvoted?

Schiendelman wrote at 2021-12-04 05:17:53:

Because it doesn’t make sense. Russia tried to hack our elections (both technologically and through a propaganda war) and probably had an impact in 2016. At the same time, there were relationships between our President and Russia that should have been illegal. We don’t know the extent of the impacts of those relationships but most media was pretty good at being honest about what we knew.

furgooswft13 wrote at 2021-12-04 14:00:40:

This is just straight up lying at this point. Russiagate has been so thoroughly debunked that even the major cheerleaders of the conspiracy theory have been forced to admit it was entirely fabricated by DNC and media operatives.

pope_meat wrote at 2021-12-04 14:09:30:

So, even the FBI is in on this conspiracy by the DNC, huh?

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-201...

furgooswft13 wrote at 2021-12-04 14:22:46:

Yes? And the FBI wasn't just in on it, they were one of the prime movers.

pope_meat wrote at 2021-12-04 17:26:21:

Ah yes, the FBI was in on it to help the DNC, that's why they nuked Hilary's chances days before the election, that's some 5D chess right there, how could I be so foolish.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-reopens-clinton-probe-a...

gerikson wrote at 2021-12-03 14:16:53:

The title implies that the author is worried about Michael Hayden, not that he is the author...

smallmouth wrote at 2021-12-04 03:58:09:

My worry for America and the west generally is that people like Michael Hayden occupy so many positions of power.

smackeyacky wrote at 2021-12-04 06:46:27:

"If our society loses the ability to separate fact from fiction, truth from disinformation, we are lost as a functioning democracy."

As an external observer of the US, it seems like this already happened.

Any society that tolerates the amount of gun violence against its own children that happens in the US has failed.

impendingchange wrote at 2021-12-04 17:06:50:

Compared to a society that has given up their guns and tolerates the amount of government violence against its own citizens, I'd take America any day.

smackeyacky wrote at 2021-12-04 17:31:32:

You are welcome to it. The US sliding into fascism is only helped by that kind of black and white worldview that is so uniquely American.

impendingchange wrote at 2021-12-04 19:01:40:

Oh? And how is it "sliding into fascism" under the current government?

creaghpatr wrote at 2021-12-03 14:26:06:

[Hayden] served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2006-2009 and as Director of the National Security Agency from 1999-2005.

Hell of a track record to be whining about misinformation.

By the way, Paul Graham tweeted this shameless flamebait:

https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1466772296857706499

redis_mlc wrote at 2021-12-03 19:54:05:

It's a deliberately ignorant article.

The author knows full well that the Balkans are divided into 3 religions who hate each other, and rightfully so. They are on the verge of a new war as we speak in 2021.

And acting mystified why the US 2020 election results are not accepted is equally ignorant.