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==Phrack Inc.== Volume Two, Issue 20, File 6 of 12 Metal Shop Private's -- Phrack Inc./Gossip ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Phrack Inc./Gossip subboard included mostly conversation involving gossip in the phreak/hack world as well as the discussion of files for and the organization of the Phrack Inc. newsletter. 1/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 6:26 pm Wed Apr 29, 1987 Yet another version... PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN St. Louis - Well, the SummerCon has come and gone and nothing has changed. It started off well, with almost 80 people arriving. We knew something was wrong when people wouldn't put nametags on becuase they were embarresed. And then when they all drank large amounts of beer, it was realised "Hey! These phreaks arn't any differnt! There just typical teenagers who beli eve being drunk is fun 'cause the rest of the time they feel so shitty. No one was busted, the police just felt sorry for the weak attempt at Dyonisiun excess. Oh well, maby someday people will realise that false bravado and bragging of inebriation is simply stupid. "Hey, that wasn't even funny." sfd 2/100: Umm... Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 11:24 pm Wed Apr 29, 1987 Hey SFD, you need to title those articles remember? But seriously, SummerCon will undoubtably be a quite fun activity but lets face it, no one is going to learn much about phreaking or hacking that weekend, not with all the excitement of meeting new people and partying, which kinda relates that you'll forget everything anyway. PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN Phreak World Crippled; SummerCon Causes Despair June 22, 1987 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Today the phreak world was astounded and dealt a horrifying blow as all the phreaks who attended summercon, left with their entire phreak knowledge literally erased from their minds due to an excess of drinking and other unknown mind altering substances. it is unknown as to if these effects are temporary or a lifetime destruction. PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN Anarchy World Takes Charge June 23, 1987 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MetaliBashers Inc, have become the new "LOD" of the modem worl since all of the LOD members no longer can even remember what LOD stands for (in fact no one can). With MBI taking charge, the new wave of the modem world has turned strictly anarchy although there are rumors of various pirating organizations beginning to unload new wares soon. PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN Investigators Lose Jobs! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Maxfield reportedly lost ALL contracts today when it was discovered that the phreak/hack community was completely destroyed thus no one needed protection from them. He has now taken a job with the local sanitation management firm to help figure out what to do with all the garbage now that the phreak community wasn't stealing 1/3 of it anymore. Hey this is getting fun huh? :Knight Lightning 3/100: I heard Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 11:56 pm Wed Apr 29, 1987 straight from the horses mouth that The Rebel and some other people from that crowd are going to show. I actually got to hear the entire Howie episode. According to Rebel, Howie was busted, went to court and when his mother found out what he was doing (again) she completely and foreverly (bros?) took away his phone privelidges. I dont know about that...but oh well. I also heard from quite a few people who have met Exy, Delta-Master and Bill from RNOC in person and the comments I receved were ...interesting. PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN Suicidal Nitemare - History ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suidical Nitemare met death head on when Evil Jay knocked on his door pretending to be a lineman checking on his line. Once inside, Jay prceeded to swing a hand set at Suicidal with amazing acurracy (sp). Once dragged outside, Jay then proceeded to tie Suicidal naked to a tree and call the ever-lovin' Broadway Hacker over to do his stuff. Jay was last heard pleading insanity. Suicidal Nitemare remains in intensive care, and Broadway Hacker is happy. -J 4/100: Michigan Name: Control C 8 Date: 2:10 pm Thu Apr 30, 1987 Doug, Bad Subscript. LoneWolf, and I are all planning on going. Maby we could work something out. I think Ax Murdere, and Sir William will be going too. Call me and we'll talk about it. Control 5/100: ROOMS Name: Lucifer 666 43 Date: 4:07 pm Thu Apr 30, 1987 If broadway decides the stay in the public rooms then I'm not in that one... also will it be like nametags? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | hello I am | | | TARAN KING- randy | __________________________ and so on.... also, I was wondering about the bust scene cause if I get busted in st louis, there is no way in fuck I could get bail money... liquor, drugs,... driving with craig etc... L666 6/100: Community rooms Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 7:02 pm Thu Apr 30, 1987 Broadway is being banned from using the community rooms. If he goes, he will have to get his own, and I heard that this is what he claimed he would do if he went. I really don't think there is going to be any busts as long as no one brings anything real illegal, like a blue box or is standing down at the pay fones with a page and a half of codes in front of a cop or something. 3 L6 What do you mean driving with me? :Knight Lightning 7/100: I do. Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 12:05 am Fri May 01, 1987 Because of the large amount of drinking and other crap, I'll bet my ass that more than 1 minor gets busted. I think we should all find some park or something. Actually, the better thing to do (which wont and probably cant be done now) is to rent some building for the night. Ive been to a few partys where they did that. No cops, outrageously loud music...it was great... wasnt cheap, but if everyone pitched in.... -J 8/100: Hotel Parties Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 6:57 am Fri May 01, 1987 i'm not very fond of them. I went to two of 'em and they both got busted. What are we(you) going to do if someone gets busted? I'm sure as hell that I don't want my parents getting a call from St. Louie PD saying, "Ahh, yes, Mr. xxxxxxx, you son was picked up at a hotel party for underage drinking. Can you please come pick him up?" Also, what about bail money? Jez, your screwed if you get picked up. -Hatter KL, since BH is NOT allowed in the public rooms,(and if I go with him) does that mean I can't stay there? Any other k-rad d00dzz coming? 9/100: Heh Name: Taran King 1 Date: 7:06 am Fri May 01, 1987 No, you can stay in the room with the rest of the people, Hatter. I haven't even heard about this banning Bway from the room, so maybe KL's making decisions for Forest Ranger, but I'm not getting involved in the personal schtuff. A LOT of people are getting their own rooms so that they won't be stranded in the middle of nowhere if they get kicked out. We will just have to keep it moderated (not the drinking, just the noise). If you (you) know that you're getting down here by some manner, please leave feedback saying what form of transportation you're using so that I can get an idea of how many trips to each station will be made, carpools can possibly be created, etc. -TK 10/100: Drinking Name: The Scanner 20 Date: 8:24 am Fri May 01, 1987 Whats the drinking age in St. Louis anyways? Please tell me they havent hit 21 yet. 11/100: SFD Name: Doom Prophet 21 Date: 4:26 pm Fri May 01, 1987 I'm glad that someone has a dissenting opinion on the drinking scene. While I do like to drink (on an average of about maybe 1 or 2 times a month, unless parents are gone or something), I also think that bragging about drugs and alky takes/shows no intelligence, and the person who refrains from doing that is a non-conformist. A bunch of people at my school call me 'the Anti-Pot Crusader' and similar names because I dislike hearing about how fucking drunk and stoned, etc, everyone got over the weekend for 2 hours straight. But tht doesn't mean I think it's wrong (unless someone is abusing, etc, selling shitt to buy drugs). You could take myy messsage as being a 'conformist' drinking/etc post since I stated some things about TK being drunk and pu king, but I don't consider it that myself. Doomy 12/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 8:07 pm Fri May 01, 1987 yup, glad to see you understand my position. Of course it is equaly lame to brag about how you never dring/take drugs. The key of course is to do what you actualy want to do, not what you have vbeen conditioned (by society and of course the dreaded 'p-pressure') to do. sfd 13/100: Drinking Age Name: The Spectre 82 Date: 8:25 am Sat May 02, 1987 <I'm sure you are all wondering "who the hell is The Spectre?" Don't worry about it.> The drinking age in St. Louis, and all of Missouri, for that matter, is 21. Has been for a long time. And since most people on here are under 21, that could pose some problems. 14/100: Broadway Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 10:13 am Sat May 02, 1987 Oh, ok Randy, you can sleep in the same room with Broadway. Don't bend over for the soap. Forest Ranger did make some comments and so did Taran on Atlantis. We have to remember the saftey of the people going and without sounding crude, the question of Broadway's sexual preference has never been answered conclusively. There are several people who plan to attend that would be very concerned about their personal well-being if they were forced to room with Broadway and I think that it would just make things simpler if B-way grabbed his own room. :Knight Lightning 15/100: I still..... Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 12:54 pm Sat May 02, 1987 think that Broadway won't show..... 16/100: Retraction Name: Phantom Phreaker 46 Date: 10:51 pm Sat May 02, 1987 I must 'apologize' (for lack of a better word) for my using of Broadway Hacker's name in that post, I feel that it is red, and weak for someone to rag on the ragee-of-the-month, behind their back. I personally have only one thing against him, and that is his bullshit story about a year ago when he to ok Radio Station down, and I believed him like a fool and took my board down and panicked. That just showed me that I can't really trust what he says. In all honesty, he did run a good BBS for a while, you can all give that much credit to him. Phantom 17/100: Bragging??? Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 1:19 am Sun May 03, 1987 Somehow I feel some of these comments are directed towards me. Well, hell... I have a good time, why shouldnt I say so? I dont think I brag.. .I uh. -J (lame, lame LAME post...) 18/100: B-Way Name: Jester Sluggo 31 Date: 12:13 pm Sun May 03, 1987 If the guy shows up, then he shows up. You can't make plans around him. As for partying, if you wanna get smashed drunk and make a fool out of yourself, go ahead. I'll drink, but drink moderately (about 6 beers/Hour). As for trading info, or getting busted; DON'T bring anything REAL illegeal. Others have said this, and I hope that nobody blows it for the rest of us. About the drinking age: as long as you stay in the damn room and drink, and keep somewhat quiet, there should be very little of a problem. For buying booze, I should be able to buy (even though) I'm not old enough, because I'm big enough.. I think TK is a witness to that. Moosehead! / \ / luggo !! 19/100: S-Con stuff Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 4:13 pm Sun May 03, 1987 Ok ok, Forest Ranger says that until Broadway has actually been proven to be a homosexual that he shall be innocent until proven guilty. In other words well he met Cap N Crax who met Broadway and Cao said he was ok, but I remember many others like Monty Python who met him and told us all about how Broadway just wanted to wrestle him in people's lawns and get him drunk. Will SummerCon finally answer the question? As I have stated before, DO NOT bring BLUE BOXes or anything else. DO NOT bring a 125 page list of SPC, MCI, MEtro, and TMC codes, DO NOT bring firearms or knives (Scan man will have that part covered), DO NOT bring your mom, DO NOT bring the police, DO bring your toothbrush. :Knight Lightning 20/100: Broadway Hacker Name: The Prophet 23 Date: 5:34 pm Sun May 03, 1987 A person by the name of S. K. Ericson once told me that this guy would card airplane tickets for very young hackers to New York to attend the TAP meetings, then refuse to card them the tickets home unless they gave in to his advances... SICKHe offered no proof of his accusations, though. -TP /l 21/100: Hack-A-Trip Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 7:10 pm Sun May 03, 1987 Well, he is always inviting people to New York and asking them if they would like to stay at his place. He also likes to get people's addresses and make plans to visit them. BH was also the founder of Hack-A-Trip, so this theory could have some tangibility. :Knight Lightning 22/100: Nametags? Name: Thomas Covenant 84 Date: 8:37 pm Sun May 03, 1987 Well, I may wear a skating cap that says "urLord", but aside from that, forget about it. I hate walking in into some place and some lady leaps out from behind a pillar and slaps a nametag on my tit saying "Hi! My name is Ian !" That happened to me once, and I used an old Erma Bombeck line: "Now, what shall we name the other one?" And Kip may wear his k00l vanity plate reading 616 HAK. 23/100: Nametags Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 11:06 pm Sun May 03, 1987 Well they are optional of course but remeber you are gonna have a hard enough time trying to learn everyone else's name without having to worry about them forgeting who you are (er whatever). Wear em if you want em. "Hi...My Name Is Knight Lightning...Unless Your Name Is Scan Man." Ba :Knight Lightning 24/100: innocent Name: Lucifer 666 43 Date: 11:51 pm Sun May 03, 1987 till proven guilty??? so when we find some guy hopefully someone not liked in the middle of the hall with a bloody swelling anus, crying, screaming "all I wanted was a US sprint code... I didnt know he'd do that....sob hes aid sob he would give my an account sob| on the Radio.... well now....fucking russian roulette... who will be the one to be butt-s macked? L666 25/100: hahahahah Name: Phantom Phreaker 46 Date: 1:02 am Mon May 04, 1987 'butt-smacked' hahahah that was funnny Luke. Oh well, fuck it we(ll see what happens there. I personally don't think there will be any real problems, just a few hostilities between people who have been 'enemies' for a while. Phantom 26/100: B'way "anus smacker" Hacker Name: Icarus 15 Date: 2:55 am Mon May 04, 1987 I am saying this, in regret, behind his back. BUT I will also say it to his ugly face. I was on his board and he got my number and would not stop his annoying calls, hours on end (maybe an hour). He wanted to meet me and after bluntly refusing many times, to no avail, I said to myself, "To get this fuck off my back I will meet him somewhere in the city." He never showed up. And stopped calling. But frankly, I believe every negative rumor about him. I am convinced h e is an utter fag of the worst kind. You would too if you heard the kind of shit he was saying. He asked questions his gynecologist wouldn't have the an swers to. (getting a bit crude..) Who was there when he was taking snapshots at the TAP conferences? Ic. 27/100: More on BH Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 4:14 am Mon May 04, 1987 Thats funny you should mention that. Broadway was also pretty insistent that I come up to visit him after the CES and some other shit. He also talked about getting "kicked in the balls" and shaving pubic hair. There is definately something wrong with him. I remember about 3 years ago when some friends of mine used to talk about some "crazy bastard who also talks about getting kicked in the balls"...this must be Broadway. Crax, lets go... ALONE. -Jay 28/100: HAHAHAHA Name: Slave Driver 58 Date: 10:02 am Mon May 04, 1987 I am on the floor laughing about that. I was at the TAP con telepub and I wil NEVER EVER forget this pear-shaped man taking out a camera and start snapping pictures. I have never seen dirtier looks in my life. They practically threw him out the window. It is also true that BWH likes to talk about guys balls and shit on the phone, but Jesus Christ guys, its simplel If he makes a move on you, be at the shit out of him. What is so hard about that?? You all seem so scared of him, like if someone screamed out 'Oh no, its Broadway!!' hundreds would being running out of the hotel... BWH is about 5-11 250lbs maybe, -all- in the gut, ass and hips. He really does look like a pear... Steve Driver 29/100: also.. Name: Slave Driver 58 Date: 10:07 am Mon May 04, 1987 If you were going there from a long way away, Id be SURE to get a room. Think about it, 30 40, 50, 1000, whatever| teenagers, drinking profusely, with no supervision. 90% wont be able to handle it and will just run around the hotel fucking things up. I had experience with this once and we totally fucked up the hotel. We took apart most of the insides of the elevator, broke all the screens and threw them down 10 floors etc. And this was just a piece of shit hotel. You guys are going to be in a mostly business man type of place. .. and they wont wait 1 sec to complain. All in all I would be VERY careful... I also wouldnt sign my name to the room. At the place I was stay it was a school trip to Six Flags, Great Adventure| staying the school got a bill for $4000 and that damage was done by about 15 people. So whoevers name is on the room registration better watch his ass... I think the person is insane ... especially since most places want a credit card copy to insure against the above... Steve Driver 30/100: Ba hahahahahahahahah Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 3:10 pm Mon May 04, 1987 Holy shit, I have just flown back and forth across my room laughing so hard after those posts. I remember him asking me some similar questions in the he past and rambling on about his balls etc. I ignored him and "had to go, its time for dinner." "But its 3:45 PM." "Er yeah see I'm late...<click." :Knight Lightning 31/100: Help Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 3:15 pm Mon May 04, 1987 Can someone please get in touch with Sherlock Holmes on P-80 or leave me his phone number or something. He is supposed to have some information or article for PWN. Thanks. :Knight Lightning 32/100: BH Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 3:48 pm Mon May 04, 1987 He does seem to want to talk about balls alot. Jay, he asked me that too (Have you ever been kicked in the balls before?). He also kept on telling me about pranks he pulled(literally) in high school like tieing people nude against lockers and stuff..... Sounds like real fun, eh? And I'm going to the Con with him? Maybe ahh! we'll see... I like my anal quarter the way it is... We shall see... -Hatter 33/100: Say that again...? Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 10:34 pm Mon May 04, 1987 Why are all of these peolle supposedly going with Broadway? I doubt he is even going to show up himself, so don't count on a carpool. Originally he said he was going, but then left me mail on Atlantis saying that he wasn't. Even if he does go, you want to find out what it feels like to have a 2 50 lbs pear shaped orangatang grab your balls and squeeze? :Knight Lightning 34/100: Ouch Name: The Scanner 20 Date: 11:28 pm Mon May 04, 1987 It hurts to even think about it so I wont. Anyways, Is this convention just for selected poeple from certian boards or can just about any Hacker attend? Also, what is the name of the hotel and the exact dates this will be going on? _-The Scanner 35/100: bh & guns Name: The Mentor 74 Date: 12:27 am Tue May 05, 1987 Nuff said. 36/100: Friends.. Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 2:54 pm Tue May 05, 1987 I don't recall specifically who he said, probally some 'friends' of his (or shall I say bedmates?). Well, I'll call him and crossexamine this topic with him. Gang Bang? Please.........! -Hatter 37/100: SummerCon dates Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 5:06 pm Tue May 05, 1987 June 19-21 (Fri-Sun), 1987. The Executive International Best Western Hotel (Airport). For all phreakers and hackers that feel so inclined as to attend. Its like an open party. :Knight Lightning 38/100: Advanced Carding Series Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 12:33 am Wed May 06, 1987 Most of my advanced carding series and some other fraud files I have written in ARCed and on the AE line. Look for ADVCARD.ARC. -The Disk Jockey 39/100: WELL... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 1:14 am Wed May 06, 1987 AS FOOR ID TAGS, JUST LOOK FOR THE GUY WITH THE NOSE RING...HA, JUST *TR Y* TO IMPERSONATE THAT. (OF COURSE IF I DONT GO, 'LOOKING FOR THE GUY WITH THE NOSE RING' COULD BECOME QUITE TEDIOUS) SFD 40/100: Adv Carding files Name: Taran King 1 Date: 7:50 pm Wed May 06, 1987 They are now integrated in the anarchy subdirectory (because they're hardly phreak/hack but not really "general"). They include ADVCARD*.TXT, CHECKFRD.TXT, ATMFRAUD.TXT and maybe one or two I forgot, but Jockey can fill you in. Snort the wave... -TK 41/100: Anyone Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 12:28 am Thu May 07, 1987 Did anyone ever get in touch with Sherlock Holmes on P-80? :Knight Lightning 42/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 6:07 pm Thu May 07, 1987 Hmm, one thing I found trashing quite awhile ago was a report by Pac-Bell on problems they were having with their new DMS-100's...One thing was the "coin problems"...Ill quote the letter as its fairly interesting: Four coin problems have been discovered with the introduction of the DMS-100 in Pacific Bell. These are: 1. Applied +48 Volts for Coin Presence Test 2. Coin Return Voltage 3. Paramater - Per call ground loop detection test 4. Overheating of GX18AB cards Real clever name there..(Did ya get the pun?) +48 Volts associated with coin service is used for Coin Overtime, Coin Presence Tests and Automatic Coin Toll Service (ACTS). +48V is used in ACTS to reset the totalizer so that coin counting can be acomplished. NT has developed a workaround for interfacing to ACTS. Therefore the main problem is the coin presence test. In normal situations, battery is applied to Tip side with the ring side opened. +48V is applied to the ring sing of the line which detects the presence of a coin or no coin. If no ground condition exists, no coin is present. If a coin is stuck (ground condition) a line 112 report will print in the CO. Without +48V this cannout be done. In a situation where a customer deposits .20 cents on a call requiring a .50 cent deposit, the .20 cent deposit is not being returned. The TSPS machine, handling all call processing, will instruct the End Office to sent out voltage (Normal +110 Volts for collect and -110 for return) that will return the inital deposit. ACTS then resets the totalizer which enables coin counting to begin on the initiation of the required .50 cent deposit. Presently, the DMS is not doing this. well whatever. sfd 43/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 6:08 pm Thu May 07, 1987 Aurgh, so I posted that on the wrong sub. sue me. And now I compounded my lameness by posting two messages in a row. Will It ever change? Will I ever become truly ELITE? sfd 44/100: Hello Floor Name: Lotus 38 Date: 3:39 am Fri May 08, 1987 I have been away for a while and I would like to also say that after reading all the broadway posts I was on the floor from laughter.... 45/100: B-Way.... Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 6:48 am Fri May 08, 1987 I just wrote a code hacker in Pascal, and it's pretty gay, I'm gonna call it "Broadway Hacker". -The Disk Jockey 46/100: Bah Ha Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 7:54 am Fri May 08, 1987 Who cares about Broadway? He is most likely not going to SummerCon and we don't want him too anyway. Oh yeah, if he does show I heard something to watch out for... If you see a large, fat, pear shaped "person" (describing him as either sex would be insulting) with a bulge in its pants...KICK IT! as hard as you can. Because it mmost likely is going to be a camera or tape recorder and if its not one of those, it means the he is feeling turned on about seeing you and you are seconds away from being sotomized. :Knight Lightning 47/100: Thanks... Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 2:25 pm Fri May 08, 1987 Thanks KL and I thought you cared. Well, I thought that he was going. He better or I'll UNLEASH THE FULL FORCE! Hehe.. Excuse the similarities... Also, KL, can I have a copy of that term? I need one and I'm a lazy ass... Thanks..... -Hatter 48/100: Broadway Fudge-Packer...... Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 7:25 pm Fri May 08, 1987 Check out his posts on Atlantis.....real gay...somethings REALLY wrong with that dude. -The Disk Jockey 49/100: Term Papers Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 12:16 am Sat May 09, 1987 Should I put em up on ye ole MSP? Anyway, the fact that something is really wrong or different or strange about Broadway is not a unique idea. I've held it since I met him and especially since he started to talk about his balls. Who cares, so any new developments with people coming to SummerCon? :Knight Lightning 50/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 6:12 pm Sat May 09, 1987 I talked to Stan yesterday (not something a wise person admits to on this board but who ever said I was wise) and he is still claiming that he will 'definetly be there'. Id be awfully carefull people...he might beat you up ya know. ahem sfd 51/100: Yeah right Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 9:41 am Sun May 10, 1987 As far as I am concerned, Stan has about as much chance of coming to SummerCon as TWCB Inc., to TelePub '86. :Knight Lightning 52/100: East Coast Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 2:57 pm Sun May 10, 1987 Is anyone on here going to Con '87 that is from the East Coast(Preferably North East)? I would like to know, just in case BH decides not to go. Thanks.. -Hatter I just got home from a nice party.. 20 half kegs(genesee), over $300 worth of pot, and a case of JD. Under the circumstances, I naturally felt it upon myself to fuck... So I did... Did you notice how my 'extra' text is longer than my 'actual' post? Well, fuck.... 53/100: Story Idea Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 6:46 pm Mon May 11, 1987 I was wondering, would any of you (being a sample of the whole) appreciate seeing a sort of documentery file on the controversy and problems surrounding Phantom Access? It would have a great finish that would sufficently burn one of the greatest geeks in our community. :Knight Lightning 54/100: BH(again..) Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 6:00 pm Tue May 12, 1987 Just talked to him last night, to find out definitly if he is going, and (according to him at least), you will be meeting me there(in other words, he's going)... He was talking about my girlfriend touching my balls last night... Pleeaaaseee! -Hatter ./s 55/100: Tough Call Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 8:18 pm Tue May 12, 1987 Well its hard to second guess Broadway's sincerity about appearing at SummerCon. For the moment, I still hold that I'll believe it when I see it. Still, he did show up (rather rudely) at TelePub '86, but then this took place in New York anyway. Whats the latest word about Scon from Solid State or OQ? Sfd? :Knight Lightning 56/100: B.H./Scon Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 8:43 am Wed May 13, 1987 Well my patience has worn thin with Broadway. He is practically begging me to call him, so I left him a nasty reply that generally told him to stop "bugging" me (no pun intended). About him going to Summercon, I say...tell him no. After all, you guys have the final say so dont you. If you have any doubts, just read the last posts. Hell, its obvious that he's happy as a fucking lark. And if you still have any qualms, think about it like this : Would you invite a fagg to YOUR party? As I said, there are alot more non-elitist going to the party then you all think. I could count out at least 20 off hand that non of you have probably ever heard of. All I can say is, good luck. If I were you I would print up a big article in Phrack and say its cancelled, then only invite selected people. If you have doubts, just remember this..(DAMN IT, REMEMBER IT), - "Dont say I didnt tell you so" Quote, Evil Jay -J 57/100: Well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 4:27 pm Wed May 13, 1987 Looking through this travel agent trade journal, and it had a list of major conventions in St. Louis during the next 6 months...And guess who will be in St. Louis on the 19th? 30,000 Southern Baptists. Yup its the southern baptist convention, the biggest convention in St. Louis all year. Its from the 12-19th. I can allready imagine arriving at the airport to see thousands & thousands of these people getting ready to leave. should be keenish. and YES i would invite a gay to a party... sfd 58/100: C'mon guys Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 5:39 pm Wed May 13, 1987 This is an OPEN party. And as far as a bucnh of no names going, we can use the cash not to mention that this could bring some new future talent into the phreak world. Meeting people and spreading your influence is what life is all about in the phreak world (heh!). Sfd, you would invite a flamming, homosexual, ball squeezing, ass licking, 250 lbs, faggot to your party? Well you and B0way can share a room. Mooooohahahahahahahahahaha :Knight Lightning 59/100: Southern Baptists... Name: The Mad Hacker 47 Date: 7:18 pm Wed May 13, 1987 I agree with the idea that we should let all people attend no matter what their qualifications show. I mean, if they're assholes, Take some people aside and coduct what business should be more private. Also, I think it would be great if We could get some of the Southern Baptist Women REALLY Medicated and Leave them at the doorstep of the Minister. Everyone Get Out Your "Disco Sucks, Long Live Rock 'n' Roll" Tee Shirts and Let's Get Weird.. heh. The Mad Hacker 60/100: D00DZ! Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 7:52 pm Wed May 13, 1987 I say who the hell cares if a bunch of guys come that are unknowns, I can see your point Jay, but look at what this is, it's not going to be something that we will be able to realistally get anything done at, so I agree that the more money and more people, the better. I would say that 100 people, wasted, would make a better party than 15 wasted people, shit what would we do? Discuss wire centers? -The Disk Jockey 61/100: Good Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 10:48 pm Wed May 13, 1987 I'm glad we are in agreement. You see although all of us StL people are helping to supply dough, we expect to break even or make a small profit for our time, effort, and preliminary investment, not to mention the risks. I really don't car so long as I break even but whatever. The extra cash after that will probably go to alcohol etc. Oh yeah... and BAIL :Knight Lightning 62/100: Hehe Name: Phantom Phreaker 46 Date: 8:59 pm Thu May 14, 1987 Yeah, 100 people, right, that would never be noticed, loud, or out of the ordinary. Still, it would be nice. Discussing Wire Centers with 15 people with everyone intoxicated would be fun, I think. Phantom 63/100: Discussions Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 9:27 pm Thu May 14, 1987 Phantom - But aren't you the one who had a discussion about new forms of BOXES at Six Flags Over Mid-America with about 6 people? (Heh!) Hey now that I mentioned it, maybe we could all go to Six Flags at S.Con (Idea Idea, Idea, nah never work) :Knight Lightning 64/100: NONONONON! Name: <<< Doom Prophet 21 >>> Date: 4:26 pm Fri May 15, 1987 ARGHHH!! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!! Here is what we shall discuss: First, we shall discuss distortion, static, and its causes in T1 digital cable and in T1 ORBs. Then we shall examine the line and trunk link network, with maps, lectures, and sketches on behalf of all of us. Then it will be a question and anwser session, with Remreeds, Reed Relays, Serving Area Interfaces, F1 layout, interoffice trunk maintenance, toll office reports, and ferrite sticks abounding. Then we will discuss WC's and MDF's and the duties of the MCC in all ESS levels. Actually, it sounds inttersting to me (just about everything above) but there's a time and place for technical discussion, and also a time for fun. So nyah. Doomy November 1986 'I did not autthorize a secret fund to the Contras' January 1987 'I may have autthorized the shipmentt butt don't remember cause my colon or prostrate got operated on and I was stoned off the medicine' April 1987- 'The tower reports indicate that it was my advisors.' 65/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 11:22 pm Fri May 15, 1987 May 1987 - 'I donated the money to the contas with the best interests of the nation in mind' June 1987 - 'There was a small connection between by donations and the contra's promise to keep Nancy's affair with Fawn Hall secret'. as for the Con, I think we should have a sign: "DO NOT ENTER - FOR *ELITE* ONLY" real cool... sfd 66/100: Summer Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 9:50 am Sat May 16, 1987 We are getting closer and closer to SummerCon folks. I can't wait. Anyway, I was speaking with Taran aboutg this yesterday, but now I'd like to ask you (the general public). I'm sure you all remember Phrack 13 (the joke isse), I felt that if people wanted to write the files, in times of need (we being low on files for Phrack) we would make a file or two a special feature like Phrack Work News or Phrack Pro-file, but with anyone contributing or writing it. I was think of datacapturing that stuff on sub 4 or maybe some of the bogus news stories on here for the first file. What do you think? Oh yeah, SFD, the idea you mentioned on the genral board sounds good, do it. :Knight Lightning 67/100: say we Name: Lucifer 666 43 Date: 1:52 am Sun May 17, 1987 wanted to go to 6 flags or do some engineering? with 100 or more people it could be hard... maybe there should be public conferences and then small get togethers of the people that we know... I dont know.....100 people running around and everyone trying to meet everyone... sounds confusing... 1988 "Well, I told mr. bush that I'd authorize it if he'd only bounce on it for a few more minutes" L666 68/100: Six Flags Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 11:57 am Sun May 17, 1987 Its a good idea in general, but we just don't have the time. We'd need a whole extra day and thats more moeny for rooms and admition to the park is kinda expensive to. So maybe a few might want to go, but I advise against it. :Knight Lightning 69/100: Wait.....! Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 12:37 am Mon May 18, 1987 Why don't we save time by going to Six Flags AND gineering! We could try to engineer the people that work at SF and find out who there boss is, what day they get paid, how much they make, who trained them, etc! Really though, this is al(the conference) gonna happen on friday and saturday? Well, why don't you throw in the optional "Sunday-Six-Flags-Day" for any of us that really don't feel like leaving? What is the price for that place anymore, about $18? I still think that there should be girls there, 30 or so guys, being wasted, and Broadway, still doesn't cut it with me, I need someone(s) be crude as hell to, and then abuse for a night. Almost as good as as finding a new Cosmos dialup! -The Disk Jockey 70/100: Bah! Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 2:55 am Tue May 19, 1987 Okay, since no one ever agrees with me, I thought I would explain my self this time around and hopefully make you understand that if alot of people show the show wont go. Im sure alot of you realize what kegs cost and Im sure with all the folks showing up (most of them probably not pitching in much - do they ever?), we are not going to be drinking as much as we like. 100 people in two rooms (not counting Broadway) - how wonderful. What do the people do who cant fit - (idea!) sit in the lobby and wait of course. Where do the people who can no longer stand go when its time for all 100 (in two rooms) people to crash? I couldnt tell you. What happens when the cops come? We run. What happens when Mrs Blow's son ends up in jail - she sues (or at least causes alot of bs), what happens when the cops, finding drunken people in the hallway, stumble across a drunken Taran King. They bust him and get him for many things including Intoxification (minor), Serving Minors (is that a law?), Causing a Publid Disturbance...among other things. What happens when Jay hits the "tank"...he gets 4 years in an Indiana Correctional Institure (Ive always wanted to pick potatoes). I was just thinking of everyone else, mostly TK. I have been to some pretty big partys, the majority of which were busted. Big partys are big news, and tend to draw attention from the less desirables (mainly cops). Contrary to what many on here have stated, the only place I would invite a faggot is the next Challenger to the stars. Now, Ive said my peice, and of course, as always, someone will disagree, someone will rag or someone will generally be pissed off, hate me for life, "de-"friend me or whatever. I know, Ive been a real negative, burnt-out, stupid-ass...BUT I DONT CARE!!!!1110!! -The Big J 71/100: Reply Name: Taran King 1 Date: 6:15 am Tue May 19, 1987 I think people are overestimating what will occur at SummerCon. I hardly expect 100 people to show up. Shit, even if that many do, a lot of people seem to be getting their own rooms...but for them to toss in like $5-$10, it shouldn't be a big deal. If the kegs don't work out, we'll just get cases of something (not as good, but still does the trick). As for being busted because too many people show up, only phreak/hacks will be allowed into the room as this is not an opened "party", per say. We will not be too rowdy because we are in these rooms for 2 nights and we cannot afford to be kicked out, therefore, people WILL be quiet (Friday night anyway) and people WILL NOT be wandering around the hotel drunk unless they're in another room which won't affect ours. The rooms will NOT be trashed because we're not positive h ow getting them will go (it will be under a fake name, but if they need ID, we're going to have to use someone's real one probably). I don't know, we'll work it out, but don't expect all of those obnoxious things that usually happen at hotel parties to happen because if we get kicked out, people can't just drive or stumble back home afterwards... -TK 72/100: About BIG parties. Name: Cheap Shades 3 Date: 7:18 pm Tue May 19, 1987 As far as Big hotel parties go it's usually not a question of cops showing up. It's more a question of Hotel Management. As far as that goes, hotel management is usually pretty cool about not kicking partiers out because they still make money off those people (as long as shit ain't getting torn up) and it's bad publicity to kick a bunch of drunk people out of a hotel because they end up driving drunk. Also public intoxacation of a minor is a crime but being in a hotel gets you out of being publically intoxicated. About the kegs, because there's a $25 deposit on kegs and $50 deposit on tappers I seriously doubt that we'd be getting kegs unless we can come up with a large quantity of money ahead of time. (Very unlikely). Later, ________________ \Cheap/ \Shades/ \___/ \____/ (By the way I've never seen ANYONE carded for buying a keg? I wonder if that'd be easier than finding someone over 21? nah) 73/100: Tapper Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 7:41 pm Tue May 19, 1987 $50 deposit on taps? We buy 'em up here for around $30. Is beer to be the only alcoholic beverage? I not much of a beer drinker. I prefer (naturally) vodka. There was something else but I seemed to have forgot.. Absolut rulezz d00d!!1! -Hatter 74/100: Alky Name: Phantom Phreaker 46 Date: 9:18 pm Tue May 19, 1987 If you ask me (you don't), mentioning the word 'party' or 'beer' or anything like that in the same sentence/post as 'SummerCon' is only yelling to the world that something is going to be goinng on. Now, it would be better if ther would have been nothing mentioned of partying, until we got there. Anyway, I don't think it should be such a party where everyone has to pass out, I'm not for that. Getting nice and fucked up to where you can walk (with difficulty) or getting a really dry mouth is good enough for me. Phantom 75/100: Partys/Summercon Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 10:45 pm Tue May 19, 1987 Yeah, but if we told everyone it was just going to be a gathering of people (damn wordwrap) talking about DMS then no one (or hardly anyone) would show. I think the chick idea is a good one, so it might be nice if some of you locals invited a few long-legged females to the rooms. As for me, I'll b e looking out for large naked fat men and hopefully trying to have a good time without discussing things like DMS...etc. Look for Part III of Tales of Misadventure - Summercon, sometime tommorrow on Phantasie Realm or here on drive H. This one will feature a visit in a shower, a large naked fat man, a casualty list and MUCH MUCH MORE!!!11 -J 76/100: How About Name: Cap'N Crax 10 Date: 11:51 pm Tue May 19, 1987 What would be the opinion of a "scams" file for phrack... I've come up with/invented/collected quite a few over the years. Most are not hack/phreak related, nor are they related to carding. They are mostly ways to "beat the system" or sort of "hack" non-technical things. Anyone interested? C^2 77/100: Ditto... Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 7:22 am Wed May 20, 1987 for me, there's lots out there besides carding anymore..... Oh, and Stoley vodka in the freezer (it wont freeze) is so smooth you can drink it straight, Hatter! I was an Asst Mgr for a bar for some time, so I can bring mix equipment for the hell of it if anyone wants to get exotic. Shades is correct about the managers, at an Embassey Suites party I had, we must have had 40 people in a 2 room suites, and we were all pretty wasted, and there were bottle and cans everywhere, and the manager only came up once (we thought we were screwed) to say to "Just keep it in the rooms guys!" He said something that is probably true at most hotels, trooms are somewhat sound proof! -The Disk Jockey 78/100: "SCAMS"! Name: Ax Murderer 7 Date: 5:36 pm Wed May 20, 1987 Hmmm....Yeah, carding is getting to be a lost age (Don't get me wrong but...) It's getting pretty sad. Unless the editors have some legal objections, I think it would be a pretty cool idea. There is little to stop anyone from finding limits in scams. But try to keep it creative, not your typical ordering a pizza (What a joke.) Ax Murderer 79/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 6:31 pm Wed May 20, 1987 d00d, what fun would a party be without getting drunk? durrrr...I expect some lemonade for me....t-hee. (rhyme scheme! another poem..Lemonade And Me) I think that we should have a seperate sub for the summercon so we dont have this dichotomy (I felt like using that word and I really dont care if I didnt use it quite correctly? ok? ok?) between phrack posts and summercon posts Seriously folks, the whole drinking question is stupid. If you want to drink, buy it yourself. And dont be dumb about it....("Flipper rules, OK? ...DONT BE STUPID"..good band) IM going to the con nyah nyah nyah...I got the tickets in my sweaty cum covered hands...so tweet! sfd "Quack, said the duck" 80/100: getting kicked out Name: Lex Luthor 36 Date: 5:41 pm Thu May 21, 1987 A funny story about Phil-Con the last Big (not nearly as big as Summer-C on will be) phreak conference. Tuc and I only knew what hotel it was, no room number and the name it was supposed to be under was not checked in. We saw a photocopied paper saying: "You hold the Keys to Security" with the Pennsylvania Bell logo. Scrawled on the bottom was Phreak-Con IV. No room number there, but it did prove that they were there, somewhere... Well we came to the conclusion that the only way to find them was check every room assuming either a door would be open and we would recognize Videosmith and the others, or they would be making enough noise for us to hear. After about the 3rd floor of listening, I was not paying attention and had my ear about 6 inches from a door, listening for phreaks (a smart move, hey we had no other way of finding them ok? ok?) and there was a hotel security guy. Well while I was busy looking like a theif, Tuc saw him, with the eagle eye he has, as the guy was 2 or 3 yards away. Well of course he wondered what I/we were doing. We told him the truth (not a misatake for once) and he checked our ID. Then we asked if there were any complaints. Well he remarked about about some guys stealing all these hotel phones... A giveaway. We told him thanks and got the room . That was them allright. We spent the remainder of the night being chased by security and hiding phones. (Not really us (me, Tuc, and Videosmith) but the locals) of course it was unavoidable or just plain stupid to just sit and wait to be ejected from the hotel so we departed also. Anyhow, they were never thrown out just warned many times. And thats it. Just thought I would relay that story for those few people interested. Lex 81/100: Syndicate Reports Name: The Sensei 18 Date: 6:57 pm Thu May 21, 1987 I just uploaded all the Syndicate Reports from 9 to 11. All of these I was absent from MSP, and thus unable to upload them. Since Priv.Sector is down, TK couldn't get them anyother way. For those of you that don't know what the TSR is, check them out on the AE, or Files section...where ever they may be at this time. Ts TSR 82/100: speaking of private sector Name: The Prophet 23 Date: 2:26 pm Fri May 22, 1987 What happened to it? -TP 83/100: Scams Name: Phantom Phreaker 46 Date: 8:56 pm Fri May 22, 1987 (Would you look at the time, Fridaight, girlfriend isn't home, brother has the car so I decided to be a computer geek instead.) About the scams file, I would like to see some ofthe shit in the vein of Consumertronics, such as ATM information, vending machine ripoffs, video game ripoffs (what the hell?), free power, and the like. When they are intelligently writte and informative then they are interesting to read. Phantom 84/100: wait... Name: Lucifer 666 43 Date: 12:54 am Sat May 23, 1987 do you think that it would be good for every kid/nazi with a modem to have the info to pull a scam? the scams would get cancelled hella ok, so I'm not from california, i'm from IL but fuck you I still say it quick. also, you could just make it a semi-public file or whatever. not as public as phrack, but then again dont just make it for you and you pal. L666 85/100: Video Game Tricks. Name: Evil Jay 26 Date: 1:45 am Sat May 23, 1987 Because of alarms they now have the machine, use the following catiously. 1) The quarter with the hole drilled in the middle will work on most machines. Its just hard to get the quarter back above the credit pin. 2) There is ALWAYS an extra set of keys to the front or back of the machine, hanging on the inside of the door. 3) The back wood they use (for the back) is like cardboard. It makes a big noise when cracked, but cracked it is - and easily. 4) ROM chips can be sold. 5) The penny up the coin slot still works on older games, like Pac Man. On MIDWAY games justflip the penny in the quarter inch slot up in the coin return. Flip it til it goes up, and hopefully you'll get a credit. On Atari games and similiar (ones with vertical coin slots), hold your finger up inside the coin return slot so the penny wont fall all the way down. Drop a penny in and once it sits there, carefully move it into the next slot on the right (right next to it). Flip it up. Nickels are easier. Have phun, -The BIG J 86/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 1:57 am Sat May 23, 1987 Ahem. I hate to tell you this L666 but "hella" went out in CA a few years ago...Speaking of which Elric Of Imput up a board and its sorta an IBM ware board oh well but if you want to call it its at (415) 278-7421. Also, Shooting Shark finaly got his modem back and who know he may even start calling outside the bay area again some day.. sfd 87/100: Atlantis Name: Taran King 1 Date: 11:28 am Sat May 23, 1987 As many of you may know, Atlantis was down temporarily due to hardware problems but The Lineman just put the board back up so if you're on it, you can now continue calling. If you're not, the number's in the B:BS List on the main menu. Later -TK 88/100: Back in Phrack! Name: Knight Lightning 2 Date: 11:48 pm Sat May 23, 1987 Hi, I've been absent for a while because of a disassembly of computer and some other mishaps going on. Anyway, things are still rolling along for SummerCon and the like so it should be a great event. All pertinent details will be released in PWN 14 (if it ever gets released) so watch for it. :Knight Lightning 89/100: I heard..... Name: The Disk Jockey 13 Date: 1:05 am Sun May 24, 1987 ...that Metallica's KILL 'EM ALL compact disc has a special encrypted coding, that when played on one of the new laser storage devices by Xebec, will print every payphone number in the metro Chicago area. Can anyone verify this? -The Disk Jockey 90/100: Phrack Name: The Sensei 18 Date: 7:19 am Sun May 24, 1987 If Phrack just monthly? Seems you see it one month (new version), then you don't for another 2 months. Or is it one of those deals that "When it comes out, it comes out". Ts 91/100: 2600 meeting Name: Mad Hatter 51 Date: 10:59 am Sun May 24, 1987 Does anyone know any mroe info about the "2600 Public Get Together"? I heard it is on Friday, June 5th. Can anyone fill me in more? I (unfortunately) don't subscribe to 2600, and I just heard that from a friend... Thanks.. -Hatter 92/100: 2600 Name: Control C 8 Date: 2:26 pm Sun May 24, 1987 The 2600 Public Get-Together8/l Friday, June 5, 1987 at 5pm It's at the Citicorp Center (atrium), 153 East 53rd St. New York City. that's all I know about it.. Control 93/100: intersting Name: The Leftist 71 Date: 11:05 pm Sun May 24, 1987 did you know.. that you can tie off all the bridges in your c.o. to a that filters off audio, and then, scream into the phone, and at the same time drop them 1 by one.. creates a neat little fade in effect..also, well never mind 94/100: Get togethers Name: The Executioner 19 Date: 9:46 pm Tue May 26, 1987 Well....Citicorp eh? hahaehaoheoaeh... "Excuse me, security, we have 100 screaming juveniles yelling something about ESS and K-rad PABX'S D000DS!" "Ah, yeah,..." Anyway, let's all get together and see who REALLY goes to the beach in the summer eh? yes, ALBINO PHONE PHREAKS!!! WHY??? GET OUT OF THE GODDAMN HOUSE! anyway....RANT!!! Sexy 95/100: hella Name: Lucifer 666 43 Date: 11:46 pm Tue May 26, 1987 just got to Illinois.... anyways, Yea Disk Jockey, I did that Metallica thing and it did work, plus it gave a TRW root privs act at the end, but no dialup... L666 where 2? 96/100: well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 11:17 pm Wed May 27, 1987 Blah. Vaguely interesting article in NetworkWorld about toll fraud. About a texas man who sold 15 codes to secret service agents for $3,000 (200 a piece!?) from TNT. But the big excitmnt about it is that he was found guilty by a judge and will now go in front of a jury, making it the first time a toll fraud case when in front of a jury. or something like that. Noble House crashed Stroke Of Midnight. I knew you would care. In other news...Bill From RNOC reports that french kissing his dog is a bad idea. And KL admits he is a mall rat. More later. sfd 97/100: Network world/Drake Name: Jester Sluggo 31 Date: 1:24 pm Fri May 29, 1987 Drake, I read that also, and I'm gunna U/L it to Knight for his Phrack World News... (So others can read). / \ / luggo !! 98/100: Well... Name: Sir Francis Drake 56 Date: 1:42 pm Fri May 29, 1987 Oh damn, and I had wanted to type it in so I could my name in *PHRACK*!. .. EDITED, FULL JUSTIFIED, SPELL CHECKED, AND INCISIVE COMENTS BY K N I G H T L I G H T I N I N G ! (typedbysfd) ----- Yes one of these days im going to stop being mean to KL, just you wait. sfd 99/100: lovely Name: <<< The Executioner 19 >>> Date: 1:41 am Sat May 30, 1987 Lovely... I love people whose names take up more line space than their message.... Boy, wish I was just a rad kinda neat-o peachy -keen type thrasher squid. 100/100: 15 Code Culprit Name: The Sensei 18 Date: 6:07 pm Mon Jun 01, 1987 Yeah, upload the file...article. I wouldn't mind reading all the details. Maybe sticking it up on TSR. 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