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Layoffs at nuke lab stir fears of a brain drain

By SCOTT LINDLAW, Associated Press WriterTue Jun 3, 8:43 PM ET

The nation's top nuclear weapons design lab has laid off hundreds of workers,

raising concerns about a brain drain and stirring fears that some of these

highly specialized scientists will sell their expertise to foreign governments,

perhaps hostile ones.

Because of budget cuts and higher costs, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

laid off 440 employees May 22 and 23. Over the past 2 1/2 years, attrition and

layoffs have reduced the work force of 8,000 by about 1,800 altogether.

According to a list obtained by The Associated Press, about 60 of the recently

laid-off workers were engineers, around 30 were physicists and about 15 were

chemists. Some, but not all, were involved in nuclear weapons work or

nonproliferation efforts, and all had put in at least 20 years at the lab.

Some lawmakers and others said they fear the loss of important institutional

knowledge about designing warheads and detecting whether other countries are

going nuclear.

Also, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said job reductions at Lawrence

Livermore and two other big U.S. weapons labs represent "a national security

danger point." These unemployed experts might take their skills overseas,

Feinstein said.

"The fact is, these are all people who are human they have homes, they have

families, they have educations to pay for," she said. "And I very much worry

where they go for their next job."

The possibility is also on the mind of the nation's top nuclear weapons

official, National Nuclear Security Administration chief Tom D'Agostino.

"Always in a situation where people leave under less-than-ideal circumstances,

we worry about that, and it's something I assure you we're looking at closely,"

D'Agostino said. "I'm always concerned about the counterintelligence part of

our mission, and we have an active program to go make sure we understand where

we're vulnerable and where we're not."

Asked to elaborate, NNSA spokesman Bryan Wilkes said the agency is "always on

guard for foreign entities approaching our employees, active or retired, but

it's their responsibility to alert us to those circumstances."

The NNSA is aware of no instance in which a U.S. nuclear weapons scientist had

gone to work overseas, he said.

He said the agency regards the possibility of a hostile government picking up

laid-off workers as "highly unlikely," in part because these are American

citizens who have responsibly held high-level clearances for many years, and

because federal law provide stiff penalties which range as high as life in

prison for divulging nuclear secrets.

In an e-mail message, Wilkes said the very notion that these scientists would

sell their country out is "an insult to their personal integrity and their

patriotism."

Ken Sale, a physicist laid off from Lawrence Livermore on May 23, said that

taking his knowledge of nuclear weapons overseas would be unthinkable, and that

he knows of no laid-off colleague who would even consider it.

But "the recent history of spying has all been money-based," Sale said. "Being

concerned about expertise you wouldn't want rattling around in the whole world,

and workers being desperate for a job, is a reasonable concern."

Sale worked on nuclear weapons testing, nonproliferation and nuclear-detection

projects.

"The specific experience you get doing that stuff doesn't have applications

outside that narrow world," he said. "It's not obvious that I will be able to

be fully employed."

Sale, 51, will receive one week's pay for each of his 23 years at the lab,

which is in Livermore, about 50 miles from San Francisco.

For security reasons, laid-off workers like Sale immediately lost their access

badges, their top-secret "Q" clearances were suspended, and they were promptly

escorted off the grounds. Some, including Sale, may stay on for a few months

doing unclassified work via telecommuting.

Lawmakers and others have expressed concern that wave after wave of work force

reductions will diminish the lab's expertise. D'Agostino said he could not

guarantee that national security would not be harmed.

With a self-imposed nuclear test ban in place since 1992, maintenance of the

warhead stockpile Lawrence Livermore's top responsibility is performed on

supercomputers. So is the task of designing a new generation of warhead, which

Lawrence Livermore won the right to do last year.

The layoffs have reduced the lab's roster of experts with invaluable experience

they had gleaned from taking part in actual nuclear tests, Sale and others

said. "Designing, building and seeing a device go off is very different from

designing a device and handing it to a computer jockey," Sale said.

Democratic Rep. Jerry McNerney, whose district includes part of the lab, said

the stakes are especially high as the United States tries to divine through

science what other countries are doing inside their weapons programs.

"We need to be able to understand what the clues are about other countries such

as Iran and North Korea and other countries that are potential nuclear weapons

developers," he said. "Without those scientists that have been involved in that

field for years, for decades, it's going to be a lot more difficult to know

what's going on elsewhere in the world."

Los Alamos, the New Mexico laboratory that built the atom bomb during World War

II, cut its work force last year by about 550 through retirements and

attrition, and Sandia, also largely in New Mexico, plans to shed dozens of

workers.

Congress cut $100 million from Lawrence Livermore's budget in the fiscal 2008

budget, and the lab has been hit with an additional $180 million in unexpected

costs from its transfer last year to a new management company, lab spokeswoman

Susan Houghton said.