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Why are high-powered M.B.A.'s getting off the fast track to work for a
$13-million food company in Ann Arbor?
Michael McLaughlin
It's 4:20 on a Wednesday afternoon, and Ari Weinzweig is talking to a group of
new employees about the 4 Steps to Selling Great Food. "Anybody know what the
first one is?" he asks, holding up a plump, brown, and fragrant loaf of bread
from Zingerman's Bakehouse.
" 'Know it,' " says a young woman with curly blond hair.
"That's right," says Weinzweig. "Great." And he proceeds to lead the group on a
sensory excursion into the properties of slow-rising artisanal bread.
The CEO of Zingerman's Community of Businesses (ZCoB), Weinzweig looks like a
Jewish hippie version of Ichabod Crane -- tall and gangly, with olive skin,
curly black hair, and a fringe of a beard. He wears a ring in one ear and a
stud in the other and dresses in black jeans, sandals, white socks, and a
T-shirt with the sleeves rolled up. The Chicago native studied Russian history
at the University of Michigan and describes himself as a lapsed anarchist.
In 1982, Weinzweig founded Zingerman's Delicatessen with Paul Saginaw, who is
still his partner. Over the next 10 years, the deli became world famous -- and
then hit a wall. Faced with the choice of changing the company or letting it
stagnate, the partners came up with an ingenious strategy that has allowed them
to retain the best aspects of small-business life while enjoying the benefits
and challenges of growth. The result is ZCoB, consisting of seven small
businesses in and around Ann Arbor, Mich., with two more in the active-planning
stage. Together the businesses do a profitable $13 million a year in sales.
One of the businesses is Zingerman's Training Inc., or ZingTrain. Right now
it's playing host to the orientation of the new employees, but ZingTrain also
offers training and consulting for non-ZCoB companies, which send their people
to learn the Zingerman's way of doing business. Earlier in the week bank
managers, bakery owners, and restaurateurs from around the Midwest were in Ann
Arbor for the "Managing with Zing" seminar. Other sessions have attracted a
wide range of organizations -- grocery-store chains, hospitals, garden shops,
not-for-profit groups, chocolatiers, custom manufacturers, even a mortuary --
from across the country.
It was at one such seminar that Todd Wickstrom first experienced Zingerman's.
At the time, Wickstrom owned two franchised bakeries in Chicago that he wanted
to improve, and he thought the session might give him new ideas. It did. On his
return to Chicago, he sent Weinzweig an E-mail message: "The seminar made me
realize you can live your ideals in the food business. The bad news is, I can't
do it here." Weinzweig invited him to become a managing partner of the deli,
and Wickstrom jumped at the opportunity. He sold his bakeries and moved his
family to Ann Arbor. "I would have come in as a dishwasher to be in this
environment," he says.
The environment is, indeed, ZCoB's most striking feature, combining a strong
sense of community, a deep belief in people, a fascination with management and
business, and a passion for great food and great service. It's an
entrepreneurial environment in which good ideas become real businesses, and
employees with good ideas have an opportunity to become owners. More to the
point, it's an environment that many can't resist. "Working here has never felt
like a job to me," says Wickstrom. "I'm constantly learning about managing,
about food, and about myself."
Wickstrom isn't the only former entrepreneur to be seduced by ZCoB. "It was
just a great opportunity. Everything was right about it," says Dave Carson, who
built and sold two successful technology companies before becoming cofounder
and managing partner of Zingerman's Creamery.
BRAIN FOOD, SOUL FOOD: Zingerman's has a passionate, challenging culture and
corned beef on rye to die for.
Other, equally accomplished recruits fled successful careers in corporate
America for jobs at Zingerman's that pay, at most, in the high five figures.
Maggie Bayless, a ZingTrain managing partner, holds an M.B.A. from the
University of Michigan and did stints at General Motors and Soho Natural Soda.
Stas' Kazmierski, ZingTrain's other managing partner, was a high-powered
consultant with clients such as Boeing, Marriott, and Prudential Insurance. Amy
Emberling majored in social theory at Harvard, studied cooking at the Hotel
Ritz in Paris, earned an M.B.A. from Columbia University, and now makes bread
and pastries at Zingerman's Bakehouse. And Ron Maurer held high-level positions
at such companies as Lexis-Nexis and Living.com before signing on as ZCoB's
vice-president of administration and chief financial officer at half the salary
he could get elsewhere. "I figured if Zingerman's was even close to its
billing, I'd be happy here," he says. "In fact, it's better than its billing."
Eleven years ago there was no room for such people at Zingerman's. The deli had
a reputation for being warm-hearted, fun-loving, and food-obsessed, but it had
nothing to offer experienced professionals looking for new business challenges
and no need for their services. Then, in 1992, Weinzweig and Saginaw began
developing an innovative growth model that redefines the choices founders have
when they've achieved their initial goals and begin thinking about what to do
next.
Standing alongside each other, Ari Weinzweig and Paul Saginaw bring to mind Don
Quixote and Sancho Panza -- or perhaps the Cisco Kid and Pancho. Where
Weinzweig is long and lean, Saginaw is short and sturdy, with a barely visible
five o'clock shadow covering the top of his shorn head. They met in the late
1970s while working at an Ann Arbor restaurant called Maude's and immediately
hit it off. What united them was the dream of a perfect corned-beef sandwich on
rye. "We both grew up in cities with great delis, and Ann Arbor didn't have
one," says Saginaw, who comes from Detroit.
Twenty-one years ago the two started a deli meant to carry the finest artisanal
food products and serve the best sandwiches known to humankind. "We wanted
sandwiches so big you needed two hands to hold them and the dressing would roll
down your forearms," says Saginaw. "We wanted people to say about other
sandwiches, 'This is a great sandwich, but it's not a Zingerman's."
Within a decade, they'd accomplished that and more. Articles extolling the
deli's food appeared in the New York Times, Bon Appetit, Eating Well, and other
publications. "In Zingerman's," novelist Jim Harrison raved in Esquire, "I get
the mighty reassurance that the world can't be totally bad if there's this much
good food to eat, the same flowing emotions I get at Fauchon in Paris, Harrod's
food department in London, Balducci's or Dean and DeLuca in New York, only at
Zingerman's there is a goodwill lacking in the others."
Still, when all was said and done, in 1992 Zingerman's was just a deli doing $5
million a year out of a cramped red-brick building in Ann Arbor's historic
district. One manager was starting a bakery to supply the deli with bread and
pastries; otherwise there were no plans for growth or even significant change.
Zingerman's was, in short, a typical, mature, stable small business, exhibiting
all the symptoms of companies that have plateaued. Behind the shelves crammed
with exotic spices, oils, and vinegars, bureaucracy had begun to creep in.
There was an active rumor mill. Opportunities to advance had dried up, and
competitors were beginning to encroach on Zingerman's market.
Weinzweig and Saginaw had a choice. They could keep Zingerman's a small, local
operation and run the risk that it would languish or atrophy. Or they could
take it to the next level. But if they grew Zingerman's aggressively, they
might sacrifice the very attributes that had made the deli extraordinary since
its beginning -- close contact with a community, intimacy with customers, team
spirit among employees, and exceptional quality of food and service.
Weinzweig can pinpoint the exact moment when the growth issue first reared its
head. It was a sultry summer day in 1992, and the lunchtime rush was in full
swing. In addition to the usual headaches involved in feeding the hungry
multitudes, a cooler had broken down. Weinzweig was racing around, trying to
deal with the problems, when Saginaw came hurrying in. "Ari, we got to talk,"
he said.
"OK, Paul, but not now," Weinzweig said. "I've got too much going on here."
"No, it's important," Saginaw insisted. "We've got to talk right now. Let's go
outside."
Weinzweig reluctantly followed Saginaw out the side door and sat down beside
him on a bench. "OK, what is it?" he asked.
"Ari," Saginaw said, "where are we going to be in 10 years?"
"I couldn't believe it," Weinzweig recalls today. "I sat there thinking, 'I
don't have time for this. The cooler is broken, the kitchen staff is stretched
thin, and he hauls me out to talk about 10 years from now?' But I had to admit,
it was a real good question."
It was also the start of a two-year debate that tested the limits of their
partnership. Saginaw felt strongly that the company had grown smug and
complacent, leaving it vulnerable to competitors who could copy Zingerman's
merchandising and chip away at its customer base. The partners had recently
settled a lawsuit against one such copycat, and the experience had convinced
Saginaw that legal protections were a poor substitute for innovation. The
business needed to be shaken up. It needed to build higher barriers to
competitors by expanding, improving, and trying different things. In short, it
needed a new vision for growth, and Saginaw thought that all options should be
on the table, including the possibility of opening Zingerman's clones in other
cities. That was, after all, the most logical way to grow a retail food
business. A lot of people had already suggested it and offered to get involved.
"We might be stupid not to do it," he told Weinzweig.
THE EARLS OF SANDWICH: Ari Weinzweig and Paul Saginaw transformed a small,
local deli into one of the most attractive companies to work for in America.
There was just one problem: Weinzweig was dead set against it. "I didn't want
to spend my time flying to Kansas City to see some mediocre Zingerman's," he
explains. "For me, it was important to be part of something great and unique.
You lose the uniqueness when you try to replicate the original. I said to Paul,
'I can't say you're wrong from a business standpoint. If that's what you want,
maybe you should do it, but it's not something I want to be associated with.
I'll leave."
"You have to understand," says Saginaw, "Ari is a guy who studies the history
of orange marmalade. He has an emotional attachment to the product. He was
afraid the coleslaw would be bad, and his name would be on the door. I said,
'Your name isn't on the door, and I don't care about the coleslaw. We can throw
it out. But if you care so much about it, fine. We'll find another way."
That other way, however, proved frustratingly elusive. Saginaw and Weinzweig
had no interest in pursuing acquisitions or moving to another location, and
they knew of no alternative growth strategies for small companies like theirs.
So they did a lot of reading, thinking, and talking -- meeting regularly to
discuss their ideas at a picnic table next to the deli. They wrote vision
statements and then rewrote them, soliciting input from people inside and
outside the business. By 1994 the outlines of a grand design had emerged. The
Zingerman's Community of Businesses was ready to be born.
Weinzweig and Saginaw envisioned a company comprising 12 to 15 separate
businesses by 2009. Like Zingerman's Delicatessen and Zingerman's Bakehouse
(which was already up and running), the new businesses would be small and
located in the Ann Arbor area. Each would bear the Zingerman's name but would
have its own specialty and identity. Each would have at least one managing
partner who would work in the business and be an owner. Internal
entrepreneurship would be encouraged and supported, but partnership would be
open to outsiders as well. And whereas not every new company would be a food
business, all would be designed to enhance the quality of food and service
offered to Zingerman's customers and to improve the financial performance of
ZCoB and its components. Initial funding would come from Weinzweig, Saginaw,
and the new partners themselves, with the goal of reaching breakeven on a
cash-flow basis as soon as possible.
"The key was having partners who were real owners," says Weinzweig. "We wanted
the passion. We wanted people who had visions of their own. Otherwise, whatever
we did would be mediocre, and the whole idea was to elevate the quality of each
element of the company."
In the summer of 1994, Weinzweig and Saginaw presented their vision in a
document titled "Zingerman's 2009: A Food Odyssey." It took the form of a long
conversational letter from Weinzweig to the company's managers and employees.
He wrote a similar letter to customers, whom he and Saginaw considered
important members of the Zingerman's community.
Although the partners had prepared the groundwork carefully, their plans drew
mixed reviews. Customers didn't understand why it was necessary to change a
business they considered nearly perfect. Lawyers and accountants told the
founders they were crazy to let the new partners have real stock and to run the
new companies as separate businesses. But the most negative response came from
Zingerman's managers, who voted with their feet. In the 18 months after the
rollout, more than 80% left. "People had gotten comfortable," says Weinzweig.
"We told them that we were going to have a significant culture change. It would
be a lot like going back to a start-up. We'd have to work 90 hours a week
again, and no one would be going home at 4 on Friday anymore. A lot of people
didn't want to do that."
It was a tumultuous period, Emberling recalls. From her position as pastry
manager at the bakery, she viewed the transformation of Zingerman's into ZCoB
with misgivings. First came the establishment of the Zingerman's Service
Network, or ZingNet, a central administrative unit that would provide
marketing, finance, and human-resources services to the businesses. At about
the same time, a CFO was hired who began asking for new financial reports from
the bakery staff. Emberling feared that the company was becoming bureaucratic
and impersonal. She also worried about the exodus of veteran managers, not to
mention the various management experiments, some of which struck her as nutty.
"They started a deli council, with the staff voting on everything," she
recalls. "I thought that was insane. How could 17-year-olds make decisions for
the company? They knew nothing about the business."
Accustomed to operating autonomously, Emberling and her coworkers worried that
the bakery might be expected to follow the deli's lead and play by its rules.
"As a manufacturer, we were very into process, rigor, accuracy," she says. "The
deli had a different style. We didn't see the value of being in the ZCoB with
them. We just wanted the deli to buy our bread and pastries and leave us
alone."
In 1996, Emberling left the company when her husband took a job in Denmark. In
2000, Frank Carollo, managing partner of the bakery, asked her to be his
co-managing partner, and she returned to Ann Arbor with her family. "By the
time I came back, it was a different company," she says. "They'd managed to
implement ZCoB very well. There was a partners group that met regularly. And
they'd done an incredible job of building a common culture. I don't know if
they realized what they were doing when they did it, but they definitely got it
right."
In her new role, Emberling not only makes bread and pastries but, as an owner,
has major responsibility for the present and future success of the business. "I
love it here," says Emberling. "I don't make as much money as the investment
bankers I went to school with, but I make enough, and I'm never bored. We face
the same questions that big companies face, without the stock-market worries,
and there are so many interesting people to talk to. It's very stimulating and
challenging."
There's a concept taught in ZingTrain's seminars concerning the mastery of a
skill. When you know absolutely nothing about a skill, you are unconsciously
incompetent -- that is, you don't know what you don't know. As you learn more,
you become consciously incompetent: you know what you don't know. With training
and practice you can become consciously competent, while total mastery makes
you unconsciously competent, meaning that you use the skill so effortlessly
that you're not even aware you're doing it.
Here's the kicker: in order to teach a skill, you have to go backward, from
being unconsciously competent to being consciously competent. Until you can
teach it, moreover, you don't really know what you know. That concept helps to
explain the process Zingerman's went through that earned it a reputation for
management equal to its reputation for food.
The catalyst was ZingTrain, which was launched in 1994. Over the years
Zingerman's had received numerous consulting requests, mostly from other
specialty-food retailers interested in emulating the deli's culinary acclaim
and customer service. Maggie Bayless, ZingTrain's cofounder and original
managing partner, wanted to offer training instead. "Rather than figure out
what someone was doing wrong and trying to fix it, we'd show people what worked
for us," she says. At the same time, ZingTrain would provide training for ZCoB
managers and staff.
First, however, ZingTrain had to come up with the language to explain what
Zingerman's did. That meant distilling various practices into easily
understandable, and teachable, concepts and principles. "We already had the 3
Steps to Great Service," says Weinzweig, referring to a maxim applied at
Zingerman's since its early days. "We just kept building from there." One by
one, the handy rules of thumb emerged: the 5 Steps to Handling Customer
Complaints, the 4 Steps to Order Accuracy, the 3 Steps to Great Finance, the 4
Steps to Productive Resolution of Differences, and on and on. Each rule was
more a set of talking points than a rigid formula -- a way to get people to
focus on a subject and remember it afterward. Some rules simply codified
practices Zingerman's had been using for years. Others expressed management
ideas that Weinzweig believed in but had never fully implemented. Still others
were developed in response to issues that arose as the company evolved.
At some point you have to roll your eyes at the sheer number of rules. "Ari
talks about the 18 Steps to Calming Amy Down," says Emberling. ("I guess I
forgot to tell her the 8 Points of Talking to Journalists," says Weinzweig.)
Yet each rule does contain a nugget of management wisdom. To give good service,
after all, you really do have to "1. Figure out what the customer wants. 2. Get
it for them -- accurately, politely, enthusiastically. 3. Go the extra mile."
What's more, it's important for employees to know that.
"I sat there thinking, 'I don't have time for this. The cooler is broken, the
staff is stretched thin, and Paul hauls me out to talk about 10 years from now?
' But I had to admit, it was a real good question."
--Ari Weinzweig
Soon Weinzweig and his colleagues began applying the same thinking to more
challenging and sophisticated aspects of management, such as leadership,
training, and organizational development. A voracious reader of business books
and a prolific writer, Weinzweig turned out long papers on Zingerman's
application of concepts like stewardship and entrepreneurial management. He
then worked with the ZingTrain partners to break down those concepts into a
series of steps, points, and definitions, thereby turning ideas into management
tools for both ZCoB's employees and ZingTrain's customers. "What we look for is
elegant simplicity," he says.
Through that process, ZingTrain got a steady supply of material for its
seminars, which began to fill up fairly regularly. ZingTrain's curriculum, in
turn, had a huge effect on ZCoB itself. Employees who took the courses were
challenged to wrestle with management philosophy in all its complexity. As
people were baking bread, selling cheese, or making gelato, they were also
studying business, not to mention the history and sociology of food, another
part of the curriculum. As a result, the company became a kind of school -- the
University of Zingerman's, people called it.
The result was a culture both intellectually stimulating and unifying. "All
those three-step things really do work," says Emberling, "but they also gave us
a language to talk to each other. Everyone in the different businesses had the
same vocabulary, which helped create the culture in the community as a whole."
Other factors also contributed to a common culture. The deli, for example, had
long used distinctive lettering and cartoons on its signs and printed material.
Following the formation of ZCoB, those design elements were standardized across
the businesses to ensure they all had the same look and feel. "The more common
themes you have throughout, the more effectively you can build the community,"
says Weinzweig. "We want to leave a lot of flexibility while providing enough
structure for people to be successful. That way, the ZCoB doesn't become a
collection of businesses that have nothing in common but ownership."
Much has changed at Zingerman's in 10 years. The company has been adding
businesses at the rate of about one every 18 months, and the pace shows no
signs of slackening. Altogether the businesses employ 334 people, up from about
125 in 1994, when the company consisted of just the deli and the bakery. With
the new businesses have come new partners, new language, and new opportunities
for employees, as well as energy, passion, and excitement that was missing a
decade ago. That was, of course, what Weinzweig and Saginaw had in mind. A
little more than halfway to 2009 it appears likely that the company will meet
the goals laid out in its 1994 vision statement.
Yet for all the changes, what is most striking is how much Zingerman's has
remained the same. It's still a local, independently owned business with
extraordinarily close ties to Ann Arbor and its environs. Last year, on the
20th anniversary of the company's founding, 13 local not-for-profit
organizations put up a giant plaque next to the Zingerman's Delicatessen
saying, "Thank you for feeding, sheltering, educating, uplifting, and inspiring
an entire community." One organization, Food Gatherers, was actually started by
Zingerman's in 1988. "We don't like to advertise our work with nonprofits,"
says Saginaw, "but it's fair to say this would be a different community if we
didn't do what we do."
Meanwhile, food critics keep raving about Zingerman's, and the raves are often
for products and services coming from the new companies -- bread from the
bakery, cream cheese from the creamery, and just about everything from the
mail-order house. Both Zingerman's Bakehouse and Zingerman's Mail Order have
received industry recognition.
Inside the company, questions about the future remain, but they seem to be
manageable. "We've realized the value of living with ambiguity," says
Emberling. "When something comes up, it's not always clear what the right
answer is. You just have to go with the process and have faith. Mutual trust
and respect play a big role. You have to operate in a world of integrity.
There's a lot of integrity in this company at all levels -- from the financial
statements to the croissants."
That integrity and resilience will surely be tested in the years to come.
Although Zingerman's has always been profitable on an operating basis, its
margins have been squeezed recently by, among other things, a change of
management at the deli and the expense of launching the new businesses.
"There's no reason we can't earn 10% profit before tax," says Ron Maurer, "but
it won't be easy. The question is, How far can we go without damaging the
culture?" Right now the company has a goal of donating at least 10% of its
operating profit to charitable causes, which is laudable, but it can't help
affecting financial performance.
Then there's the problem of generating the cash that will be needed to buy back
the stock of departing partners. All the partners say that they're not going
anytime soon, but the day will come. As for the founders, "currently, our exit
strategy is to die," says Saginaw.
The company could, of course, be sold. Weinzweig notes that the Zingerman's
brand could be very valuable if, say, a major grocery-store chain wanted to set
up its own specialty-foods department or subsidiary. But he isn't interested in
going that route. "People keep badgering me about an exit strategy," he says.
"But I don't want to get out. We've been in business for 20 years, and I look
forward to coming to work even more now than I did in the beginning. I'm having
more fun, and I'm more at peace with the realities of life. So why should I
leave?"
He pauses and flashes a lapsed-anarchist smile. "Success means you're going to
have better problems," he says. "I'm very happy with the problems I have now."
Bo Burlingham is Inc's editor-at-large. He is also the author, with Jack Stack,
of The Great Game of Business and A Stake in the Outcome.
History in the Baking
1982 Zingerman's Delicatessen offers "flavorful, traditionally made foods...in
an entertaining, educational, and service-oriented setting"
1992 Zingerman's Bakehouse produces baked breads and pastries for the deli and
other customers
1994 Zingerman's Training Inc. shares Zingerman's expertise in training,
service, merchandising, specialty foods, and staff management with the public
and ZCoB members
1996 Zingerman's Mail Order sends foods across the country and around the world
1998 Zingerman's Catering provides food for small parties and large events
1999 www.Zingermans.com allows customers to buy Zingerman's products on-line
2001 Zingerman's Creamery produces handcrafted fresh cheeses, gelato, and other
dairy products for the deli and other customers
2004 Zingerman's Roadhouse features a menu of American regional cooking
TBA Mexican Restaurant (name and opening date not set)