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table of contents
1. editorial (mistawho & loopy)
2. fewlish keedz (mistawho)
3. brazillian fag (loopy)
4. timestamps (mistawho)
5. gotta girl (tempest)
6. interview with vectorx (loopy)
7. irc polls (loopy)
8. klines (mistawho)
9. irc quotes (loopy)
10. stupid shit on irc (loopy)
11. next month (loopy)
12. /signoff (loopy)
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editorial by loopy and mistawho
yo sup dogma readers this is ishue #TWO, relased on christmas, december
25th 1995. if this zine were called dogmai, backwards it would be iamgod. neat
eh? anyways, we dumped the letters to the editor section because, well nobody
wrote to us. while dumping that, a new addition is here. irc quotes. its just
what it is 'irc quotes' funny quotes, and anything else there is wanted heh. i
would also like to point out that i am dissapointed with the opers on efnet...
guys if you read this 'DONT IMPLEMENT TIMESTAMPS' if you dont know what time-
stamps are youre dumb, but thats besides the point. well, timestamps put a
stamp on the user with the time they signed on, so if a nick collision is about
to occur, the server checks to see which user has been on longer, and the user
is not collided. there is also another patch that is stuuuuupid. the name is
currently unkown. when the server with the patch splits, it doesnt allow you
to join any channels. it says some bullshit about how youre access is
restricted. so basically if every server uses that and timestamps, there is
no way to get ops back on an opless channel. gay eh? i believe that timestamps
are already in effect dealing with collisions. crhistmas eve, irc.ais.net had
been splitting like mad...so i decided it would be a great time to colide some
fags..and as you can see, dstrukt registered the kill:
<D> !SCORE! : ( [pblank] ) : !SCORE!
yet, he was not collided. so i believe timestamps are in effect on irc.ais.net
check out mistawho's article that goes into great detail about the timestamps.
-loOpy(dogma editor)
Welcome to the second issue of Dogma. Bet you thought it was
a one timer, and I also bet you are thinking "What the hell
is that lamer mistawho writing in the editorial for". Well,
because I have a lot of extra time.
The idea of this magazine is a great one, and that is why you
will see me contribute to it so often. Although it is
probably not the first IRC/Internet type text based magazine,
I think it is the most well executed. It has a good format,
and it is great to read for information and humor on what is
going on, on EVERYBODY's network.
With Microsoft joining the net instead of taking it on, and
the TS Server patches to not allow collisions anymore coming
up VERY soon, there will be plenty to read in this issue,
and as you will probably see every issue, this will be the
best issue to date.
Any hate mail, I'm not an editor, mail them to Stigmatic (I
think that's how it is spelled) or loOpy, happy holidays and
since i'm jewish, go light some candles.
-mistajew/hew/poo/foo/andsometimeswho
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fEWLISH kEEDZ by mistawho
The Fewlish Keeedz. Something a lot of your have heard about, but
only a few know what the Fewlish Keeedz is. I am here to put a stop to your
ignorance and let you in on the secret. The fK started a year ago, with
various members, such as illz, dr. hate, myself, superfly, vCx, and so on,
after a while, it did die. Now, what did the fK do? Various types of
things. If you want to call us a "hacking" group by term, then you can,
because that is what we are. We are not restricted to just one thing, we
do everything and anything.
The fK was recently revived when I was on IRC and decided it was time
to bring it back to life. People say that we are lame because we dedicate
our time actually tearing apart EfNet or anything else, and that we should
take are extra time to do something productive, but as to what Dr. Hate
said in an issue of PLA as a phreaker, "that's what makes us phone losers".
I enjoy learning and doing what I do. And that is the point of
what I am saying here. We all do what we like, and mine just happens to
annoy more than one person. Do you hate me? About 1000 of you out there
do on IRC, but that is beyond the point here. I do what I do in a world
that is surealistic if anything, and when it comes to my spare time, that is
what I will always do.
Have a problem with this? Too bad. I don't care what you think,
because there are a select few who appreciate what people like Dr. Hate do
and you will some day soon too. When you finally see the light and quit
being an ansi faggot, or a wares puppy, you will find out where it is really
at and convert over. It's like a religion, and when you actually start to
learn, you keep a great faith towards it. Remember, your god is Kevin
Mitnick, learn to live with it.
-mistawho@#$@#$
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brazillion fag by loopy
for the past few months, there seemed to be a problem on #ansi. it was
more of an annoyance. #ansi is not my favorite channel, but i have to admit
i have been on that channel for a long time... about 1.5 years i believe :)
recently there has been this brazillian faggot, who moved from the u.s. to
brazil of course. he 'wrote' a script called mal.irc, and claimed it his own
yet its bits and peieces of tons of other scripts. this kid has no skill what-
so-ever. when i confronted him about it he said 'it was a joke'. many times
he has pissed of the ops on #ansi. the strange thing is that he was always
opped. reason being he had a bot called 'afromama'. anyways, i was irritated
this past thursday, so i hopped in #ansi, well,as usual i was opped by the bots,
and i kicked a few fags. i 'pissed' him off by disagreeing with his views on
girls or something stupid like that and a few minutes later, he bk'd me.
after a tiring day at school, i kinda got pissed. i got one of the bots to
unban me, i massdeop'd and bk'd him. he threw a sissy fit, and started saying
how i am going to be perma banned from #ansi forever...well one day later i am
sitting on #ansi writing this article. many little petty arguments followed,
and now he is no more. you can thank mistawho, stigmata and i for this.
his name was conde.
-loOpy(dogma editor)
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-The incorporation of TS Server Patches
TS means TimeStamp. After bugging Sik (an Australian IRCOp) I had
found out the information on what exactly the TimeStamp will do.
The TS patch is applied to an IRC Server, and it will eliminate the
following problems:
1) There is no more server ops, whoever was opped in the channel
originally will be opped on a rejoin, that person will remain
opped, anybody who jumps on a split and tries to get ops on
the rejoin will not be opped, they will get deopped.
2) There will be NO more collisions to an effect. If you try
to collide someone, you will otherwise be killed, or asked
to change your nick by the server. This is not YET quite
figured out yet, and nobody is quite sure what will happen
with this. It will involved whoever had the nick the longest
amount of time will keep the nick, and the one who had it
the least will lose it.
This is not FORCED upon IRC Servers, this is an option for the
people to install on their efnet servers. Unless ALL of efnet actually
installs these patches, it might not work too well, but then again, it
might work just great. A few servers (Although I am not sure which
servers are patched right now, and I haven't ran into any of them).
This all brings it down to one question, what will be next? What
new hole will be found by someone? What will be the NEXT BIG thing to
happen on Efnet? Mail your thoughts to:
fewlish@zipnet.com (don't mailflash/bomb me, I have firewalling)
Until all is figured out, we will have to sit back and wait for
more information to come out, as of now, that is about all the
information there is right now.
-mistawho
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I GOTTA GIRL, FROM EYE ARE SEE...
by Tempest
Big thanks (for ideas/help) go to: Sam, James and Diane.
This is an off shoot song of Trippin' Daisy's, "I gotta girl".
I gotta girl, she's from I-R-C
I gotta girl, I picked her up on #netsex
I gotta girl, she types so sweetly
I gotta girl, she loves her script
I gotta girl, I love her script too
I gotta girl, she says she loves me
I gotta girl, I take her to #dinner
I gotta girl, when we left #netsex I was a sinner
I gotta girl, Daddy hasta let me borrow the modem
I gotta girl, with an IRC body
I gotta girl, I says *hugs* to
I gotta girl, I do a /me fucks her
I gotta girl, if you give her ops she say I love you.
I gotta girl, and for ops she would be your date
I gotta girl, it's cheaper to call her at night
I gotta girl, I have no worries of bad breath
I gotta girl, cause I only kiss on IRC
I gotta girl, I added her to my bot
I gotta girl, she uses irc.eskimo.com
I gotta girl, she keeps bitchin' at me for netsex
I gotta girl, I hope she's not a guy.
I gotta girl, her nick is Babe
I gotta girl, but in real life her name is Dave
I gotta girl, who thinks I'm 13 inches long
I gotta girl, she sed on #netsex "like to suck yer schlong"
I gotta girl, who says she's not like other women
I gotta girl, she meant cus she looks like Richard Simmons
I gotta girl, who likes to chat
I gotta girl, I saw her gif
I gotta girl, she's male and fat.
I gotta girl, who sounds like Mr. T
I gotta girl, and she sed she wants to have real sex with me
I gotta girl, who loves to netsex me
I gotta girl, her mom says shes only 3.
I gotta girl, she said she's my age
I gotta girl, who needs to have her legs
I gotta girl, she smells good
I gotta girl, she likes the smell of dog food
I gotta girl, who drinks ice tea
I gotta girl, if you wish to sleep with her she charges no fee
I gotta girl, she said she loves me
I gotta girl, my friend MaCDaDDy said she's a he.
I gotta girl, she said to call for fun
I gotta girl, when I called she wanted my Visa #.
I gotta girl, she sent a gif
I gotta girl, I got the magazine her pic came with.
I gotta girl, on my HD
I gotta girl, at the site of her gif my god commited suicide
I gotta girl, she makes me feel like a man
I gotta girl, she makes me wish I had another hand
I gotta girl, who says she like guns
I gotta girl, her face looks like she's been shot with one.
I gotta girl, she likes Dead Milkmen
I gotta girl, I didn't know she didn't mean the band.
I gotta girl, so what if she's into S&M
I gotta girl, she looks like a melted M&M
I gotta girl, she doesn't believe in masturbation
I gotta girl, but every night I see her at the gas station.
I gotta girl, who says she looks like ru paul
I gotta girl, and she's even got the balls.
I gotta girl, who said she likes the way I sound
I gotta girl, she sounds good, all thousands pounds of her
I gotta girl, her nick is HotGirl
I gotta girl, but when I saw her gif even my dog hurled.
I gotta girl, she said to call her
I gotta girl, but it was the number of a call girl.
I gotta girl, who sed she has big boobs,
I gotta girl, she only charges after minute two.
I gotta girl, who said she isn't fat
I gotta girl, her number is 1-800-HOT-CHAT
I gotta girl, who wants to date
I gotta girl, who sounds like Bobcar Goldthwait
I gotta girl, who's always in the mood
I gotta girl, but she looks like Robin Williams in the nude.
I gotta girl, and she's got an IRC guy!
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monthly interview by loopy
the interview this month is with vectorx. he is one of the coolest, and
knowledgable people ive met on irc. he used to hang out on #ansi about a year
ago, and then started a net called eReetnet. it was just that, ereet. you
can meet him usually taking #acid or fucking with the ops or something
mischveiuos like that :)
loOpy : how long have you been on then net?
VectorX % Since the summer after my sophomore year of high school.. I'm a
senior now
loOpy : what do you think, was youre first big accomplishment?
VectorX % hacking yale and not getting arrested..
loOpy : how long ago was that?
VectorX % junior year
VectorX % sometime in october 94
loOpy : so you would consider youreself a criminal?
VectorX % I'd have to say yeah
VectorX % because I do break into things
VectorX % protected well or not
VectorX % I have intent
VectorX % usually not destructive though..
loOpy : ahh..do you do any damage once youre in?
VectorX % no, more or less to gain information
VectorX % There's a funny story about the first site I hacked
loOpy : tell it :)
VectorX % I was echo'ing accounts into /etc/passwd
VectorX % and I typed only one ">" (recreate) instead of ">>" (append)
loOpy : heheh
VectorX % so I replaced their entire account list with a one line account
called with the uid of snapple
VectorX % it was down for 3 days
loOpy : did you know what you were doing?
VectorX % I didn't realize how I fucked up until
VectorX % I couldn't run commands under root anymore
VectorX % I was so excited that an 8lgm exploit worked for me
VectorX % I didn't really care
loOpy : in one word, what do you think of aol ?
VectorX % All On LSD
VectorX % 3 words =]
loOpy : yah i didnt notice, im not that good at math
VectorX % hehe
loOpy : do you like the beatles?
VectorX % I respect their music but it aint muh thing..
loOpy : yea same here
VectorX % I like orange juice..
VectorX % speaking of juice, OJ did it.
loOpy : yes he did
loOpy : you know that after interviewing subzero last ishue, he just got
a Oline
VectorX % yeah he mentioned it =]
loOpy : are you hoping for the same?
VectorX % an O line would be alright
loOpy : tell us about ereetnet
loOpy : it rocked
VectorX % eReetnet... resulted from my constant need to tweak things out
VectorX % it was basically a power trip
VectorX % but at one point around last december.. it had 10 servers and about
150 people
VectorX % all warez and h/p oriented or doodleboys converting to h/p
VectorX % and the server.. well it was just a big hack
VectorX % from chanops to fake hostnames to servers that kicked you out of
channels and spoofed your address
VectorX % I once linked it to efnet for a VERY brief period. but that's another
story
VectorX % currently ereetnet doesn't exist
VectorX % but I still have the server code
loOpy : if there was one chic on the planet you could fuck, who would it be?
VectorX % Hmm
VectorX % hard one
VectorX % I have a woman now =]
VectorX % but if I didn't.. I'd have to say "Hey Mariah"
loOpy : cool what is her bra size?
VectorX % I'm thinking 34B
loOpy : what computer do you use?
VectorX % ancient one
VectorX % 386/33DX
VectorX % 8megs
VectorX % kinda funny.. my mom works at Intel too.
loOpy : yah thats ironic, go to work with her and steal one
VectorX % Intel == Security tho
VectorX % you should see that place.. I just wish I could
VectorX % you know they have p7's now
VectorX % 200mhz machines
VectorX % <shhh =]>
loOpy : no i didnt know
loOpy : woah shit thats faster than my computer
VectorX % it's nearing the speed of some of our ISP's which tend to be
workstations and sparcs
loOpy : what is youre favorite ftp site?
VectorX % ftp.giga.or.at or unix.mclv.net simply because they're reliable for
good h/p utils when you're in a hurry
loOpy : what do you think of vassagahoe?
loOpy : vassago rather
VectorX % vassago sucks a mean dick from what I hear
VectorX % but his script is usable when it's tweaked out for my irc+eReet
loOpy : speaking of scripts, waht is youre favorite and why?
VectorX % ereet.irc because I made it and it's good for scoring accounts =]
VectorX % /-eReet-/ eReet.irc ./. Backdoor Manipulation ver. 2.3 by VCX and
illusion Loading...
VectorX % /-eReet-/ eReet version 2.00 now fully armed. Type /ehelp for commands.
loOpy : would you like to uhh pass it my way? :)
VectorX % sure but this is a bugged up one.. I need my archive from spyder
VectorX % I got people started saying eReet btw if you noticed it's use lately..
anywhere from Buletin boards to newsgroupds
loOpy : do you remember youre first collide?
VectorX % Sure do.. it was Piker back when I had my own portal.com account
VectorX % *** piker is piker@irc1.svc.portal.com (Is an IRC operator) (away)
loOpy : did he throw a fit?
VectorX % he threatened the removal of my account
VectorX % that's about it
VectorX % so I collided him again
VectorX % from another site
loOpy : and did he threaten the same?
VectorX % he never really talked to me again =]
loOpy : cool...
VectorX % but my time on portal was brief due to other activity =]
loOpy : gee i wonder why :)
VectorX % hehe
loOpy : what was the first channel you joined the first time on irc
VectorX % #portal
VectorX % it made you join it
VectorX % (lame)
loOpy : oh god thats gay
VectorX % then #shiver
loOpy : art group?
VectorX % I was a doodleboy for the first 2 months
loOpy : woah what did you draw?
loOpy : ansi ascis vga?
VectorX % I coded intros]
loOpy : can you give our readers a tip for irc?
VectorX % it's only IRC
VectorX % Break it before it gets too big
VectorX % and dont be intimidated by fag ircops
loOpy : no kidding
loOpy : will you find a way around the timestamps?
VectorX % what timestanps do you mean
VectorX % ircd logging?
VectorX % unix loggin?
loOpy : timestamps on irc
VectorX % I havn't run into much trouble with timestamps
loOpy : from what i hear they are implementing them on efnet soon
VectorX % well when that happens I think tcp spoofing and flooding will hit an
alltime high
loOpy : yes thats what i was thinking, and more backdoor shit too
VectorX % well I'll personally see to that =]
loOpy : ok well i gotta go take a shit so we gotta end this here.. what is
one thing that you would like to be remembered about you?
VectorX % that I always found a way around stuff and I hope my persistance
leads to new creations in the h/p areas
loOpy : ok thanks for youre time
loOpy : i gotta run big time :)
VectorX % no prob
VectorX % later =]
loOpy : lates
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irc polls by loopy
on the level of 1-10 the ircop piker is about a 9.5 in the fagmeter. look
at this log: