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Dino – A web app, mobile app and desktop app for jotting down thoughts

Author: japrozs

Score: 57

Comments: 11

Date: 2021-11-28 07:37:00

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3jckd wrote at 2021-11-29 08:27:45:

How is it different from Notion and Evernote like solutions? What’s better and what’s worse about Dino?

Likewise, how’s it different from backlink-based apps like Obsidian, Roam and Craft?

Is OSS the only selling feature?

ImportOllie wrote at 2021-11-29 11:47:00:

Also wondered this and couldn't find anything on the github page.

There's more discussion on Product Hunt on this particular issue from the creator:

"you're right, notion is great for organizing stuff for some use cases. But most of the time, a majority of time is spent organizing a task instead of doing the task. Dino is targeting a different use case in that it is more useful in taking notes and using at more as a digital notebook and less as a productivity tool."

https://www.producthunt.com/posts/dino?utm_source=badge-feat...

I remain dubious, it looks like a very similar UI to Notion, as an Obsidian user, this doesn't seem to be solving a problem I currently have.

taurusnoises wrote at 2021-11-29 11:56:11:

Curious what problem you're having in Obsidian (as a Notion + Obsidian user myself)

m4lvin wrote at 2021-11-29 09:40:10:

One of probably many name clashes:

https://dino.im/

semitones wrote at 2021-11-29 13:37:13:

Not to mention homonyms, like the JS runtime Deno:

https://deno.land/

bobberkarl wrote at 2021-11-29 18:25:44:

404...

taurusnoises wrote at 2021-11-29 11:49:03:

I'm curious what the HN community thinks about the proliferation of these new note-taking w/ back-linking apps coming out means for the future. Ideas of decentralization, connectivity, linking, and synthesis seem to be front and center. Anyone wanna speculate as to how this might shift our views of the world and our surroundings in the future?

(disclosure: political decentralization and theories and philosophies based in nonlinearity have been areas of interest of mine for the past 20 years, so this new emphasis is very exciting to me).

koblas wrote at 2021-11-29 14:01:59:

Fads...

Let's be realistic everybody whois is in the information economy is trying to organize the chaotic stream of information that is flying there way 24x7. You've got everything from idea, to books you want to read, to slack messages, meeting notes, etc.etc. It's always interesting to see somebody say OMG let's try the "If it doesn't give you joy throw it out" as a method of organizing, but that's assuming one size fits everybody. Note-taking is not a one-size fits everybody, everybody has different strengths and weaknesses. Some people thrive on lists, some people thrive in chaos.

There are interesting challenges of how to create and collect information in a team environment that helps share a vision. On an individual basis, no one shoe is going to fit everybody and it's not going to fit you at different times in your life.

I realize this is a non-answer, but it's also looking at this with some perspective around the some of the original ideas of the web were just to solve this problem.

kaliszad wrote at 2021-11-29 14:11:29:

I am not sure I understand your question/ comment correctly, could you perhaps be more specific or provide a bit more context?

We at OrgPad.com build on a legacy of at least 40 years of research into the human mind. It is important to realize, humans are much better at recognizing shapes and colours than reading. It is because shapes and colours are much more tangible patterns rather than the abstract patterns written (or spoken) language builds in our heads. Therefore we have typography, paragraphs, lists etc. as a hint. Often though, this is insufficient, because it lacks semantics provided by colours. Perhaps you have seen people using a highlighter with textbooks, this is a partial step in the right direction. In the last about 10 years, the computers became powerful and the screens large enough that we can work without taking physical constraints into account much - we can have infinite canvases, we can use way more colours and change things easily. We can also zoom in and out or search for stuff.

This is where OrgPad.com and other tools come in. We think, that OrgPad.com is the only tool, that focuses on freedom of expression, natural visuals and animations and really being a tool for normal people instead of just "techies". There are other tools and methods like perhaps Obsidian, Dendron, Zettelkasten, Roam-research and even X-Mind and similar that focus more on programmability or systematic work with knowledge or just being e.g. MindMaps with some rules for graph creation. And then you have all the blackboards and OneNote like tools that diverge in even more directions.

We think, that currently you can convey information much better visually, which enables non-linear transfer of knowledge, because you don't have to serialize your thoughts into a stream of words with some formal structure. Of course, you can find a path through graphs and tell a story but you can also roam feely and find your own way. This will be essential for the transfer of thoughts in the always-on and always distracted society. Most people will search for simple tools that don't require having a strict system or learning some syntax to produce understandable documents.

technoplato wrote at 2021-11-29 14:04:15:

Was just brainstorming out in the open about new decentralized governance structures. Would love to chat

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0DikpCAyJPuUlTnKSAMlnauqg#Sa...

Contact info on the photo

corobo wrote at 2021-11-29 10:40:57:

When you say new do you mean "This product didn't exist before and here it is, new"?

I read it as "a new method" and left kinda disappointed if I'm honest