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Thoughts about the Gemini protocol

Dave Gauer dave at ratfactor.com

Tue Aug 18 19:50:55 BST 2020

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On 8/14/20 4:59 AM, /dev/urandom wrote:

I was thinking about an idea similar to Gemini that could work as a
protocol for not just websites, but also simple and functional web
applications as well that could, to a reasonable extent, look and work
well on lots of different devices (desktops, smartphones, feature
phones, text-mode interfaces).

Gemini has hard conceptual/technical boundaries which make it pretty unsuitable for building general purpose applications. And that is, of course, on purpose.

I've thought for years that browsers should have entirely separate modes of operation: one presents content and the other is an application client. The user would have strict control over which mode was being used, so I could say that reddit.com can only do "displaying content" things, but gmail.com can do "application" things.

But I like even more the idea of having separate clients (and protocols) for these purposes.

I feel like Gemini "solves" the content mode.

We still need the application mode. Universal distributed applications are incredibly useful and cool (and that use of the Web keeps me employed). But the Web _sucks_ for making applications.

So, if I were to build the "Gemini of applications", I think I would take a hard look at two things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssemblyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_user_interface_markup_languages

I like your abstract input examples. The client should be able to determine the best way to present this to the user. Entering a date on a desktop computer should not use the same UI as a touchscreen kiosk or a voice-activated home assistant! Nor should the application developer need to create these UIs from scratch each and every time.

Hmm, now we just need a good name for a "Gemini of applications"...

:-)

2. Continuous connections
3. Append mode

3 is intriguing. I suppose it's to allow the server to respond with messages such as "I didn't understand 'asdfklj' as a date!" or provide interactive feedback, such as a session with an Eliza-like chatbot or

-Dave