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CGI and CGI like support (was Re: [ANN] Announcing Molly Brown, a Gemini server in Go)

Sean Conner sean at conman.org

Tue Jan 14 23:49:20 GMT 2020

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It was thus said that the Great solderpunk once stated:
> 
> This decision should not be interpreted as a criticism of your
> RFC-3875-derived implementation.  I think it makes good sense for there
> to be an option for people to easily convert existing web CGI scripts to
> Gemini.
> 
> But I do think it would be nice if there was one vaguely standard way
> for servers to implement this kind of thing, so that dynamic content
> generating code could be more portable.  I think for that I'd probably
> prefer something as light as possible, and to explicitly distance Gemini
> from many of the ideas baked into RFC-3875, especially that dynamic
> content code should have access to the end user's IP address.

  RFC-3875 wasn't that bad to support as there aren't that manymeta-varables (as they are called) to suport, and several are optionalanyway.  The RFC doesn't cover how the meta-varriables are sent to thescript, but under Unixland, it's via envinroment variables.

Here's what I currently do:

	AUTH_TYPE		Not set unless the client provides a certificate, then this		gets set to "Certificate".

	CONTENT_LENGTH		Doesn't apply as there's no way to send a document to a		Gemini server.

	CONTENT_TYPE		Doesn't apply.

	GATEWAY_INTERFACE		Set to "CGI/1.1"

	PATH_INFO		Per RFC (wording is a bit muddled), and not always set.

	PATH_TRANSLATED		Per RFC, and not always set.  I will say that these two are		a bit persnickity to get right.

	QUERY_STRING		Must be set.  If no query string, set to "".

	REMOTE_ADDR	REMOTE_HOST		I take it these are the ones you oject to the most.  But if		I'm running a Gemini server, I *already* have your IP		address anyway.  It seems silly to hide it to me, but I		don't live in Europe so take what I say with a grain of salt		or two.  I set these (to just the IP address).

	REMOTE_IDENT		Nobody supports RFC-1413, so I skip this one.

	REMOTE_USER 		If a client provides a certificate, I set this to the client		subject common name.

	REQUEST_METHOD		I set this to "", as Gemini has no concept of a request		method (but see below).

	SCRIPT_NAME		Per RFC.  Not hard to set properly.

	SERVER_NAME 		Hostname of the current server.  If you support multiple		hosts per Gemini, then I would set this to the host the		client connected to.

	SERVER_PORT		Set to port number of server.

	SERVER_PROTOCOL		Set to "GEMINI".

	SERVER_SOFTWARE		Set to "GLV-1.12556/1".

  And that's it without further configuration.  As a default, a CGI scriptwill ONLY get these environment variables (whereas your implementation leaksthe parent environment to the script---might want to check that).  I allowone to set other environment variables per script (like $PATH or $LANG orwhatever).  If you need HTTP compatibility, I set some HTTP_* and changeREQUEST_METHOD to "GET" and SERVER_PROTOCOL to "HTTP/1.0".  I also have anoption to set some variables that Apache sets as well.

  If the client presents a certificate, I set the following:

	TLS_CIPHER	TLS_VERSION	TLS_CLIENT_HASH	TLS_CLIENT_ISSUER	TLS_CLIENT_SUBJECT	TLS_CLIENT_NOT_BEFORE	TLS_CLIENT_NOT_AFTER	TLS_CLIENT_REMAIN (time between now and TLS_CLIENT_NOT_AFTER)	TLS_CLIENT_ISSUER_* (various fields broken down)	TLS_CLIENT_SUBJECT_* (various fields broken down)

and AUTH_TYPE and REMOTE_USER as mentioned above (if Apache compatibilityrequested, the names change but it's largely the same information).  Detailscan be seen starting here:

https://github.com/spc476/GLV-1.12556/blob/master/Lua/GLV-1/cgi.lua#L241	
> I think there's a lot to recommend the way Molly Brown works, especially
> if we generalise it just a little to "Gemini CGI apps should endlessly
> read single line URLs over THING, until THING is closed, at which point
> the app should terminate".  

  Oh, so pretty much a Gemini server sans TLS then.

> Here THING could be stdin, or a TCP
> connection (making a CGI app basically a small self-contained server),
> or a unix domain socket.  Simple servers could do what Molly currently
> does, just spawn the script, send a single URL over stdin and then close
> stdin, giving us the good old fashioned one-process-per-request model of
> traditional web CGI.  But more advanced servers could give admins a way
> to configure different approaches where the process is persistent, more
> like FastCGI.  Or they could round-robin load balance between multiple
> servers on a local network.  The actual CGI program would see very
> little difference between these scenarios, you'd just give a slightly
> different argument to a library function which produced some kind of
> iterator over URLs.  This has great power:weight.
> 
> I was very happy with this idea until I realised that CGI programs
> should also have some way to get access to client certificates, not just
> the URL. :(
> 
> I haven't returned since then to thinking about how to achieve this.

  Perhaps a series of line, like:

	Request: gemini://example.net/foo/bar/script	TLS_Cipher: ...	TLS_Version: ...	TLS_CLient_Hash: ...	TLS_Client_Issuer: ...

  Ends with EOF (or a blank line or a NUL byte or some way to indicate the endof this one request).  This is consistent (each line is formatted the sameway) and I think, easy to deal with.

  But whatever you come up with, I would try to avoid calling it CGI, asthat tends to lead to RFC-3875 ...

  -spc