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Show HN: Tecktok – Triplebyte for Singaporean, Indonesian and Indian Engineers

Author: sritam7

Score: 30

Comments: 27

Date: 2020-11-06 10:03:30

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mrpickels wrote at 2020-11-06 11:04:13:

I tries the full stack quiz - IMO it is horrible. Bunch of javascript spaghetti code with ++i + i++ like idiotic questions and some basic SQL. Do you really guys think that calculating inside your head some shamanic expressions will evaluate objectively the engineering experience?

sritam7 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:07:11:

Hi mrpickles,

Thanks for the feedback. We are actually working on replacing those shitty JS questions ASAP. My friends who are engineers have given me a lot of shit. I promise it will be replaced soon.

trevyn wrote at 2020-11-06 14:10:41:

This is the best support response I’ve seen in a long time. :)

mrpickels wrote at 2020-11-06 11:57:53:

thank you, no pressure tho! I just gave my honest feedback, I think in general the idea is great! Keep up with the work

sritam7 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:08:36:

Would you have any recommendation for the type of questions? I promise if it is geographically possible. We will buy you a coffee, tea or beer.

lokedhs wrote at 2020-11-06 12:43:30:

I did the same. Those Javascript questions were really not great.

Also, I know enough JS and HTML, but I absolutely hate it and have no interest in answering questions about it, even if the questions were good. A server-side category is clearly missing.

winter_blue wrote at 2020-11-06 12:34:29:

_> Bunch of javascript spaghetti code with ++i + i++ like idiotic questions and some basic SQL. Do you really guys think that calculating inside your head some shamanic expressions will evaluate objectively the engineering experience?_

I feel kind of ashamed as an Indian, seeing this. These sorts of dumb and idiotic questions are all too common in India. People like to ask these sorts of silly question (that lack any depth) even in the education system in India (e.g. in CBSE and various state syllabi).

They obviously filter for a certain type -- a person who is good at answering arcane, meaningless useless edge case questions. Where you have idea what that person's actual engineering and architecture skills are like.

The sad part of this story is that the entire Indian education system is designed to train people to attain such kinds of meaningless superficial skills. For example, most engineering entrance exams in India expect you to be _really good_ at computing complicated integrals -- something that you can just ask a computer do. It fails to recognize and utilize the great depth and breadth of human intellect, and instead rewards people for simulating a CPU well.

tdeck wrote at 2020-11-06 19:08:05:

> The sad part of this story is that the entire Indian education system is designed to train people to attain such kinds of meaningless superficial skills.

This reminds me of the exams you have to take to get a low-level job on the Indian railways. Just look at some of these questions:

https://testbook.com/blog/gk-questions-asked-in-railway-rrb-...

cbisnett wrote at 2020-11-06 11:36:01:

Just my opinion, but you may want to consider renaming the company. Hearing someone say “tecktok” is likely to have potential users searching for “techtalk” or similar. Not to mention it’s very close to tiktok, which I’m sure you know is banned in India.

yorwba wrote at 2020-11-06 14:17:42:

Since the first two countries listed have many Malay/Indonesian speakers, another association for "tok" might be as a short term for an old person

http://prpm.dbp.gov.my/Cari1?keyword=tok&d=139128&#LIHATSINI

e.g. "tok guru" for an old (and wise?) religious leader.

Though I barely know enough Malay to order some nasi lemak, so I can't say how likely that is to be an intended connection.

Etheryte wrote at 2020-11-06 10:48:33:

As a small heads up, trying to market yourself as the next Triplebyte might not be the best strategy, given the shady user-hostile practices they've made headlines with [1].

[1]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23279837

sritam7 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:03:11:

Hi Etheryte,

Thank you for pointing that out. I remember following that news. But I thought Amom's (the founder) apology email was sincere and heartfelt.

However, we will definitely learn from their mistakes and make sure that we always involve our users in our major product decisions.

makach wrote at 2020-11-06 11:26:35:

Concept seems cool.

Tried the full stack quiz. But the questions are horrible! In some of the questions the obvious right question is wrong. What do I reply :-D

Also, you add time to each questions? Thanks for stressing me out.

Result: NOT PASSED!

lol

notRobot wrote at 2020-11-06 11:19:49:

I can't create an account without relying on Google, Facebook or Microsoft (GitHub)? Just let me use email FFS.

menzoic wrote at 2020-11-06 11:35:15:

There's a cost to developing features. "Just let me use email" is dismissive to the fact. 99.999999% of users will be able to use one of those. Why spend more time making a subpar email login feature when you can integrate with existing services that probably even increase sign up conversion because it's an easier UX?

muratsu wrote at 2020-11-06 11:50:15:

Because target users are developers and developers don't like using social logins as much as other users. Using firebase or 0auth is pretty straightforward as well.

sdan wrote at 2020-11-06 11:03:21:

You have experience with Javascript, HTML, CSS and other front-end frameworks

Hate to be a stickler but it should be:

You have experience with Javascript, HTML, CSS, and/or front-end frameworks

Since neither JS, HTML, or CSS is a "front-end" framework. They're scripting/markup languages

sritam7 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:11:02:

Don't be. We knew posting here would give us the most honest and brutal feedback. I will personally make that fix and push to production.

gczh wrote at 2020-11-06 10:13:28:

Interesting idea! If there's anyway we can support you at SMUMods.com to spread word about it to engineering talents in SMU, let me know! I'm on telegram at

https://t.me/gabrielchuan

!

sritam7 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:03:46:

Hi gczh,

SMUMods looks cool. I will PM you :)

aryamaan wrote at 2020-11-06 10:25:45:

Good idea. Everyone gives similar kind of interviews at tens of companies.

There is definitely place for bringing some efficiency.

Could you share which companies you have collaborated with so far.

sritam7 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:04:35:

Thanks aryamaan. Right now we are partnering with Series A - B companies in Singapore and India.

kburman wrote at 2020-11-06 12:11:54:

I'm not sure which part of this project is for Indian Engineers?

ochoseis wrote at 2020-11-06 16:35:35:

Are you launching in Malaysia as well?

ssakamoto wrote at 2020-11-06 15:17:59:

Not very good. Time wasted

kepler1 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:10:44:

Unfortunately I don't feel a lot of interest to sign up via Google/FB/etc account link just to see some technical interview questions. No way to bypass via email signup either.

sritam7 wrote at 2020-11-06 11:12:39:

Hi kepler,

We will launch our email/password login very soon.