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Wittgenstein wrote a dictionary for elementary school students

Author: Hooke

Score: 53

Comments: 11

Date: 2020-11-05 03:26:07

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mellosouls wrote at 2020-11-06 02:19:25:

_[The dictionary] was published by a Viennese press in the fall of 1926. This was a few months after a harrowing corporal punishment incident in which Wittgenstein struck a student, causing the student to collapse. He abruptly abandoned his teaching career and moved back to Vienna._

More on this pivotal episode which seems to have sent Wittgenstein into (or been the culmination of a process leading to) a breakdown:

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidbauer_incident

neonate wrote at 2020-11-06 08:07:36:

That Wikipedia page is utterly fascinating from start to finish.

hetspookjee wrote at 2020-11-06 09:39:19:

The entire history of the Wittgenstein family is a long tragic winding story. Definitely can recommend the wiki of Wittgenstein:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote at 2020-11-06 05:15:25:

From the Wikipedia article you linked:

> He spent hours with favoured pupils, offering them extra tuition outside the classroom, sometimes until eight in the evening, which did not endear him to their parents.[10] He would take them on overnight trips to Vienna to see museums and cathedrals

>One boy, Karl Gruber, from an impoverished family with six children, became a favourite. The two studied Latin, Greek and mathematics together from four to seven in the evening, then dined in Wittgenstein's room.

This seems like classic grooming behavior.

morelisp wrote at 2020-11-06 11:42:41:

It is also classic "teacher trying to support a gifted student from a disadvantaged background" behavior. (Though overall he was an awful teacher who fundamentally didn't seem to realize you should not expect unversity-level commitment to the work from primary school students.)

Wittgenstein had a lot of of sexual hangups but I have never seen any evidence he was a pedophile.

watwut wrote at 2020-11-06 22:07:31:

It is not? I an not saying he was grooming him necessary, but overnight trips are not normal behavior of teacher trying to help poor gifted student.

pvg wrote at 2020-11-07 04:51:18:

It isn't today but if you read German-speaking lit from the period, you'll notice teachers held a very different position in society. This is, of course, true of other places as well.

unixhero wrote at 2020-11-06 10:36:21:

>This seems like classic grooming behavior.

I really want you to be wrong about this.

gerland wrote at 2020-11-06 12:11:55:

He was gay, so I would not be surprised by a pederastia incident.

dang wrote at 2020-11-06 21:15:27:

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ggm wrote at 2020-11-05 04:43:16:

An interesting man, but with so many internal conflicts. His contribution to architecture and interior design is also notable: He was obsessed with details, making the perfect door handle.

Cross referencing another post elsewhere, Keynes took Wittgenstein on his honeymoon (Keynes btw, was a sex fiend and kept explicit erotic diaries) .. a decision which I think calls his sanity into question!

osullivj wrote at 2020-11-06 09:57:25:

Fascinating. I knew Wittgenstein taught primary in the 20s, but never connected that with all the later Philosophical Investigations about language as a game, forms of life, intersubjectivity. Looks like that connection has been the object of recent scholarly attention:

https://www.academia.edu/7913113/The_Philosophical_Investiga...

makach wrote at 2020-11-06 10:53:20:

I heard that Wittgenstein was a beery swine Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel

new_guy wrote at 2020-11-06 04:39:32:

Those poor kids!