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?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?????????????TABLE OF CONTENTS:???????????????\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?

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?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?1. Introduction - RBCP                      ?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?

?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?2. Review of DefCon III - by Apok0lyps      ?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?

?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?3. Review of DefCon III - by Roy            ?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?

?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?4. Follow-up on the 618 Scene - RBCP        ?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?

?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?5. The Birth of "Cactus" - RBCP             ?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?

?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?6. Dealing With False Classified Ads - RBCP ?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?

?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?7. This Issue's Featured Support Sites      ?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?

?\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\?8. Police Log                               ?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?

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?                      Completed On September 10, 1995                       ?

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?                     Introduction - RedBoxChiliPepper                       ?

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  Well, here it is, issue thirty-five, the final issue of PLA. It's been fun     

but unless someone else decides to take over, which is doubtful, this will be

the last issue ever. Thanks goes out to everybody. Oh, wait, I'm just kidding,

PLA's not really shutting down. I bet I got your attention, didn't I?

     

     *FREE DISKS!* *FREE DISKS!* *FREE DISKS!* *FREE DISKS!* *FREE DISKS!* 



  There's a great company out there that's giving people FREE 3 1/2" computer

disks with absolutely no cost or obligation and no salesman will call! And 

what's even better is that the company provides a toll free number to call in

and get your free disks with. The only catch is that you can only get one disk

at a time. You may have heard of the company, it's called Amerika On-Line!

(stop ralphing!) You can order a few disks a day by calling 1-800-827-6364 and

expressing an extreme interest in becomming an AOHell subscriber. Stop paying

for those computer disks, they can be free, dammit!

  I finally got around to reading Masters of Deception by Michelle Slatalla  

and Joshua Quittner. Good book, funny, informative, who cares if the story was

really accurate, it was good reading. There's just two parts in it that I can't

help bringing up. One quote was, "One kid might know how to make a wicked blue 

box, a device cobbled together from top-secret Radio Shack parts that 

simulated the tones of coins dropping into a pay phone..." and the other part

tells about one of the guys playing with a phone in a book store and finally

gets to make a free phone call by using his tone dialer to dial the number he

wants. Easy to do, but the author describes, "The device he uses is a tone 

dialer, which emits a noise that simulates the sound a pay phone would 

recognize as coins dropping into a slot." Guess they should have done a little

more research before they released the book. Other than that, good reading.

Go out and shoplift your copy from Waldenbooks today!

  Me & Colleen Card are in the process of relocating from the stinky town of

Corpus Christi, Texas to someplace less smelly. We still haven't decided 

exactly where but hopefully it'll be someplace where more people speak English.

If you're one of the few who use our post office box, you can still write to

that address and mail will be diverted for us to pick up. By the next issue we

should be moved. (As of this writing we're vacationing in Illinois, ya-hoo.)

Oh, this also means that my bbs, Whombat Communications went down but I backed  

everything up on disk so I'll most likely put it back up in a few months so

don't throw away your passwords yet!

  This issue features reviews of Defcon, the meaning of "cactus" and a follow-

up on the 618 scene from the last issue. A reporter was actually desperate 

enough for material to run a story on the PLA. He's probably out of a job by 

now, poor sob. So sit back and enjoy the issue. Better yet, just delete it, 

it's not worth reading. Who am I trying to fool?



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?                     Review of DefCon ]I[ - Apok0lyps                       ?

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  Friday Aug. 04 aprox. 12:00: We arrive at the Tropicana Hotel. Check in took 

FOREVER as we had to stand in a really long line and get checked in. They made 

us pay a $50.00 damage deposit on the room. We complained, but oh well.



  13:00: We get the room, put our shit away, and head on down to the con room. 

Not too many people had shown up yet, only about 250 reg'ed at that point. 

Paid the $40.00 and got da 0day ID badge. werd.



  13:40: I head to the Tropics Bar (one closest to the con room) and begin to 

order beer. Sat and drank like two and met Alex Deluge. He was pretty cool. 

About seven beers later, El_Jefe (Zak) shows up with Xn4rk. He was also pretty 

cool. We started to mess around with the video poker machines. Xn4rk has this 

idea that chaos theory has something to do with the winnings. We proceed to 

drink and conduct "experiments" to the tune of about $12.00 & no one won shit. 

Started to get loaded.



  15:00: I depart the bar and head back to the con room. Looked around for a 

while and got the latest 2600 mag. Pretty good, pick it up. Milled around and 

met Novocain.



  16:00: Got some food, got some sleep.



  By now the time thing is kinda blurry, so here's the rest in a nutshell (or 

nut case) Hacker Jeopardy started at Midnight and was loads of fun. I would 

dare to say the best event of the whole con. Questions ranged from stupid to 

elite, but the beer flowed and free stuff abounded. Round one was a riot as we 

watched little kids fight for t-shirts and beers. This event hosted by Winn 

Schwartau, lasted till like 3am.  The con closed for the night and me and some 

people went to hack KU.



          Here are MY awards picks for best things at DefCon ]I[:

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Best Speaker: Robert Steele (ex-CIA) Topic: Hackers are the country's biggest 

asset. Kept me very intrested. I'm gonna try to get a copy of his notes from 

him.



Most Entertaining Speaker: Deth Vegetable (cDc) Topic: The Media Sucks Made me 

laugh, Also took questions about Mr. T!!



Most Informative Speaker: Koresh Topic: Hacking a Job. I went away with a lot 

of good info on that one.



Lamest Speaker: Stephen Cobb Topic: Why Hacking Sucks.



Best Event of DefCon ]I[: Hacker Jeopardy. Free Beer, free stuff, and El_jefe 

managed to win a lot of shit.



Worst Event of DefCon ]I[: Susan Thunder's Mitnick Party. I didn't go, but I 

think only three people did.



Best Quote: (not sure who said this) "If you were a woman and had a plastic 

penis, I would touch your nose."



Most Commonly used words by Dark Tangent: "Awwwwwwww Yeah!"



Most Commonly used words by everyone else: "Throw it!!"



Friendliest People: Alex Deluge, Xn4rk, Magsusa (hope I spelled that right) 

Dead Addict and Novocain.



Best Hotel Employee: Thomas. (Offical PLA bartender)



Most Creative Outfit: Whoever was dressed like Chun Li.



                              Other Quotes:

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        "Here, have one of those beer things." - El_jefe 

        "Alex Deluge: I LOVE those beer things!!" -Alex Deluge

        "Whoever's got floor space, I'll give them k0dez!" -Capt. Hook

        "Ok, ticket number 317 wins Dark Tangent." -Death Vegetable

        "Throw him!!!" -Crowd



  Greets go out to: DHATE (see ya at H0H0), Alex Deluge, Drew from SGI for 

getting us the Holy Cow (moo), Thomas, RBCP and Colleen Card (see ya at H0H0 

as well) and that's it for me!



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?                       Review of DefCon III - by Roy                        ?

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  Hi, my name's Roy, and last week I went to that DefCon3 thing that was in

  Las Vegas. I heard about all the wicked things and the sinners there so I 

made sure to bring my bible. I packed everything in my Ford Motherfucker 

sometime around January so I would be there on time. I got to the Tropicana 

Hotel around 1pm on Friday afternoon, and got my room so me and my gerbils 

could get a little privacy over the weekend. 

  When I went to the convention room I about fell over when I saw the carpet, 

it was this beautiful tropical floral pattern with lots of pretty colors! I 

LIKE pink and greeny things. Someone was going around trying to give me a copy 

of a Hustler disguised as a 2600 magazine, so I had to mace him just like they 

taught me down at the YMCA. 

  That silly man, Dark Tangent made my gerbil pay to get in even though he 

would just sit in my pocket until I found a cardboard tube. I read that cute 

little program thing and it said something about hackers playing Wheel of 

Fortune. Since Pat Sajak is my favorite person in the world I went, but I

wondered why he would play Wheel of Fortune at midnight. He must be crazy 

nuts! I think they should have called the police about this game. Some crazy

young man was throwing things at the audience and trying to hurt us for some 

reason! He was throwing beers to people without making them throw ID back up 

so he could see if they were 32. 

  I drank half of one of those beer things and I went wild! I don't know what 

happened then but I remeber passing out on that beautiful hotel carpet, and 

waking up in my room with a broken gerbil next to me. I guess I'd have to visit 

the pet store later. I tried to get the bartender to quit selling beer and even 

showed him the bible, but he just threw ice cubes at me. I know SOMEONE who's 

going to hell. 

  I bought some beef jerky and went to the convention room. I noticed some guy 

talking into a microphone but got totally distracted by the beautiful curtains 

outside! Between the curtains and the wallpaper, I had to go back to my room 

and change my pants. I felt so awful about doing that, that I had to order some

butter and chives from room service and rub them all over myself and everything 

else in the room before things got better. 

  Me and my gerbil went into the convention room the next day and someone was

talking about something but I didn't care, I had to go to the toilet so bad,

it just wasn't funny anymore. I found the nearest bathroom and barred the door 

shut for aboout three hours, and the whole time I was in there I danced all 

over the toilets. When I came out, a guard was waiting for me and he beat me 

sensless with his billy club, and that was kind of fun too! Finally, he just 

gave me a shoe in the ass and sent me back to the convention room where I hid 

in the curtains for the rest of the evening.

  The toilets at the hotel were so pretty! I wish I could have taken one of 

them home with me and mounted it on my 1986 Ford Motherfucker. About that time 

I realized I had to go back home to New Mexico and feed my gerbils and check 

to make sure that those kids didn't take my bubble mower or change the greeting 

on my answering machine like last weekend. I went home and the neighbors told 

me I was crazy nuts with piss in my pants for going to such a sinful town as 

Las Vegas, but I brought all my shoes and glasses so it was ok.



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?                        Follow-up on the 618 scene                          ?

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If anyone actually bothered to read all of PLA034 you probably remember us

leaving the 618 area code in total disarray and confusion. Well, a few more 

developments have happened since that issue and here they are. First, we bring 

you Scott The Believer's post shortly after PLA034 came out. This was posted 

in the Sysop Announcements Sub (Wed Aug 09, 1995):



Well, It is true. We are shutting Chatterbox dowm Permanently, we are pulling 

the plug on the Computer at Midnight this Saturday night (8-12-95). I really 

hate to do this, Mostly it has been fun and a joy to run this BBS. Chatty has 

done an excellent job for a newbi sysop to keep things running well, and the 

board interesting and entertaining. AND most of the users here have been really

good, posted a lot, played games, had a good time in general. Why then must we 

shut it down then? I hear all you good users out there asking yourself that 

question. Well, along with the good users, there have also been a few "Not so 

good users" out there. They are the ones to spoil it for the rest of you. We 

have had so many problems in the past few weeks, it is not even funny! We have 

had users that thought it would be great fun to "STEAL" the users list from 

here with everyones passwords, phone numbers, address's, ETC and then upload it

to other boards. We have had users that would call us voice here at all hours 

of the night with harrassing calls. We have had a user upset over giving out 

his phone number to another user (Eventho everybody has our users list by now).

We had users ASK to be deleted, then keep trying to log back in as new. We have

deleted users who refused to conform to our NO CUSSING rule here, then they got

mad at us too. It has just turned into way TOO much hasstle lately. It used to 

be fun to run this board, but lately it has turned into a BIG headach taking 

up too much of my time trying to keep users happy, that we have decided to just

turn it off, PERMANENTLY! It becomes effective this Saturday night (8-12-95) at

Midnight. Chatterbox will no longer be around. 



For you good users, we are really sorry it has come to this. We appreciate all 

that you have done to help make this a fun BBS. I am sorry the situation has 

come to this. And I want to thank all of you good users for your participation 

in all that this board has to offer. If you could, please post on other boards 

that Chatterbox has permanently gone down, to rise no more, ok? Just to inform 

any users that don't log on and read this by Saturday what happened. Thanks.



Scott The Believer



PS- any replys (Posts or E-mail) is welcome, and Chatty will probably follow 

this with her own post about the situation.



  [And before that post, Apok0lyps had gotten the following private mail...]



Name: Scott The Believer #2

Date: Wed Aug 09 06:19:24 1995



I am unpopular in the area? Never had any problem before, and I have BBSing for

about 6 years now. I always got along pretty good with most everyone, never had

a fight with anyone, except 1 sysop who I asked to be deleted from their system

and they balked about removing my name from their system. I have had

discussions about abortion with a few, but NO real fights. So I sure didn't

know that I was unpopular around here. The only people I have had unpopular

dealings with are the users of this board, namely Martini, Zak, Zensless1, and

a few others I have deleted from here. The way I see it the whole problem

started here with this board, and it is gonna end here and now with this board.

I thought Amanda was doing a good job making a decent entertaining BBS, when I

Dark Requim, I thought we really had a better board than they did. We sure got

a lot of calls, 30-35 a day average. I really thought Amanda was doing an

excelent job as a newbi sysop. BUT The buck stops here! I too am depressed

about this whole incident, it IS boring. But I can stop it at any time. AND

Amanda's Mother and I have made the decision, we will NOT put up with all these

hasstles anymore. So we are shutting Chatterbox down, Permanently! Midnight

this Saturday night is the day and time we pull the plug on Chatterbox. I am

sorry to have to do this to Amanda, she really enjoyed runnning a board, but I

have had enough midnight-3am calls, new users trying to call in saying OBSENE

things in the LOG about Amanda as passwords. I am just sick of this whole month

LONG incident that just won't stop. RBCP putting my Apology in one of his PLA

text's is the capper, I am sick of him, his childish pranks, and putting my

Apology in there was WHAT finally made me decide to do it. So as of Midnight

this Saturday night, Chatterbox is History, Permanently. Don't bother calling

anymore, it will not be amswering anymore after Saturday....End of discussion.



  [Needless to say, everyone at Cocktail Lounge and Roy's Place thought this

   to be really hilarious and everyone counted down the minutes until they

   went down. Apok0lyps actually managed to get himself deleted about a half

   hour before the bbs went down but I forget why. Lighten up, Scotty! :) Mr.

   Hack is still running his amazing phreeeekers' bbs. Here's a chat session

   submitted to me by Scorpion (with Mr. Hack, using a false account):



HACK: i am the god dam exile!

SCOR: oh ok why do you let people bash you?

HACK: because they r just lamerz who got kiked out of their sisters ass!!

SCOR: What I was wondering is why do you have so many enimies?

HACK: BECAUSE WE ARE THE ELITE AND THEY ARE NOT AS GOOD AS US SO THEN THEY 

      TAKE PROPER ACTION OF JEALOUSLY AND SAY THAT WE DONT KNOW ANYTHING SO 

      DONT FUK WITH US..........NOT NECCESSARILY MEANING U!!

SCOR: Whats that pol group?

HACK: PAL?    [PLA, of course]

SCOR: something like that I always see them bashing you?

HACK: THAts just  BECAUSE THEY R JEALOUS!

SCOR: Oh so there not really a cool group?

HACK: FUK NO!

SCOR: oh what group were you starting?

HACK: OUR PRIVATE GROUP IS THE BRANCH OF THE n.O.c WHICH WUZ ALSO CREATED BY 

      US ALSO! R SPECIAL GROUP IS CALLED D.e.k!

SCOR: Are you a really good hacker?

HACK: sORRY DUDE, GOTSTA GO TO SOME CHIKZ HOUZE. L8z!

SCOR: ok btw is it true the Deter gives it to you up the ass?



  [After that, Mr. Hack hung up on him. (Can't imagine why) But PLA is 

   taking donations so that we can help our friend, Mr. Hack buy a new

   keyboard. His CAPS lock seems to be stuck or something.



   And Greg Carson? He's not had a good month and he no longer posts on 

   bbses at all, just calls them up and does new message scans to see if 

   we're still talking about him. Here's a couple of posts by Zak that I 

   found slightly hilarious:]



Name: Zak #21 @6851

Date: Wed Aug 09 00:51:39 1995     [To me...]



You're lame or something. Hey I got an idea, fly up here and live here again, 

and get plastic surgery to look like Greg Carson and we'll kidnap him and you 

can go to work as him and say "I am Greg Carson and I think you are a poo poo 

head" Then we'll ruin his life. You can rob banks as him and call people and 

hang up. Then we can beat up his skanky hillbilly wife.



Name: Zak #4

Date: Thu Aug 10 05:47:52 1995



I went into the hotel to sleep as it was very very late (about 2pm!) and greg 

pulled out a baloney sandwich and beat the shit out of me with it. I'm so 

scared of lunchmeat now.



  [And here's a piece of private mail I got from him. I forget what we were

   talking about.]



Name: The Hit Man #370 @6851

Date: Mon Aug 28 22:10:34 1995



Use your mind and what would you say in my situation? I know nothing about you

nor does anyone else (your real name even!) You move around alot it seems and

I know when I ask questions that I will get no true answer, like your going

to screw up and give me that information, but what should I say? WEll RBCP I 

guess I will talk to you later. well I guess I should say you suck or something 

but I dont want to start anything else between us. WEll bye-Dont worry I know 

you dont like me but at least we can talk like adults, right?



Go ahead capture it and show the world what a dumbass I am. 



  [I wasn't going to publish that e-mail but since he asked me to, I

   thought I'd give him a break since he's such a nice guy. But wait, 

   that's not it...Greg, sick of a life of hell (not that I had anything 

   to do with THAT) decided that since the police wouldn't help him, 

   maybe the newspaper would so he called a reporter from the Belleville 

   News Democrat in Belleville, Illinois and I started getting calls to 

   my bbs in Texas from a guy named Grey Mouser. Here's some captures...]



Date: 3:32 pm  Wed Aug 16, 1995                                 

From: Grey Mouser                                              

To  : Redboxchilipepper                              



Hi this is grey mouset im a membe

Hi my name is grey mouser im a user at roys place. I want membership now :)



Date: 6:21 pm  Wed Aug 16, 1995                              

From: Grey Mouser                                              

To  : Redboxchilipepper                                   



Hey, Im a reporter and I want to talk to you about Cactus. my number is 

618-234-8420 Call me tonight the story is running saturday and has to be filed 

tommorrow afternoon. My real name as im sure you know Is Brian. I want to talk 

to you about the cactus of Hitman, I want to get your side of things to make 

it a fair story.



  [Considering his spelling & grammar, of course I was skeptical...]



Date: 6:35 pm  Wed Aug 16, 1995                             

From: Redboxchilipepper                                      

To  : Grey Mouser                                          



Get lost, Greg. If you want to hear my side of it, read PLA34.ZIP. 



Date: 6:42 pm  Wed Aug 16, 1995                              

From: Grey Mouser                                              

To  : Redboxchilipepper                                     



You know for being a supposed Phreaker your not very bright, Im a reporternot 

greg, I have talked with greg and I am wwriting a story about him that will be

running in Sunday's paper, my work number is 1-618-234-1000 extension 626, 

give it a try it starts with the newspapers name. Im here right now if you 

want to talk.



 [At this point during his mail, I broke in for chat...]



ME: What paper.

GM: The news Democrat in Belleville Illinois

ME: I'm not interested. Read pla034, okay?

GM: Well Ive read 0-32 but Im more interested in a interview, Im sure the 

    other reporters were as well hooked as I am, I belong to elite/pirate and 

    phreak boards all over the country.

ME: Why are you calling my 618 node then?

GM: Im not Im calling your 512-883-7543 number from 618

ME: Nope, the local 618 node is busy, I'm afraid and you're wasting my time.

    Whatever you have to offer doesn't interest me.

GM: What do you mean the local node, do you mean a call to or from a 618 

    number?

ME: You figure it out, you're wasting my time. If you want to download pla034

    I'll let you stay on here, otherwise, goodbye.



 [Then I dropped out of chat. His letter was resumed so he continued...]



Ok but dont blame me if the article seems slanted I have talked with three 

poeple who have been catused by the pla, I have tlkaed with the FBI, the 

corpus christi police and the local phone comapny. Im also talking to internet

hackers at #hack and #virus. Ill just say you refused comment. But dont think 

this is greg, bk iit isnt.



        [Cactused?? I guess he's trying to relate with us. After toddling 

         around my bbs like a first grader, looking at files, reading 

         messages and making the same stupid mistakes over and over he 

         logged off. Anyway, I called up Roy's Place and checked out his 

         account there and his validation feedback and here it is...]



To: Zak #1 @1

Name: Grey Mouser #59 @1

Date: Wed Aug 16 12:24:22 1995

RE: Validation Feedback (141 slots left)



Hey, I want elite/pirate access damnit :)

Anyway im new to the area and Im joioning all of the boardz aroud. I have

elite access i boards all over the country, more specifically oregon, maryland

and Illinois and of course the net on #hack and #virus.

GM



   [Well, it finally turns out that he is, in fact, a real reporter and has

    been going crazy nuts calling up everyone in the 618 scene asking what

    they knew. He also got ahold of a copy of PLA007.TXT and called every-

    one on the loser list and tried to interview them all. Colleen Card, Zak

    and Martini finally ended up on a four-way call with him and had a long

    conversation with him. Below is a copy of the article that appeared on

    the front page of the Belleville News-Democrat on Sunday, September 3rd,

    1995. Next to the article was a color copy of PLAGIF04.GIF (the altered

    phone logos and Calvin in an LOD shirt). I put my comments on the story

    throughout the article in brackets...]



Metro-east Families Face Harassment By Hackers - by Brian D. Crecente 



  Seven metro-east families have been harassed by obscene and threatening phone

calls, pranks and false telephone charges after running afoul of a computer

hackers group. The victims are listed in a computer file distributed by a 

group called the Phone Losers of America. The victims believe they're on the 

list because at one time they may have angered one of two members of the group 

who have ties to the metro-east.

  One of them is a leader of the group who used to live in Madison County and

now lives in Texas and goes by the nickname "RedBoxChiliPepper." He appears to

be the writer of the phone list and other computer files that deal with 

harassment or "cactusing," as hackers call it. Computer users can access the 

list simply by calling up a local information service called a bulletin board.

  

  [By the time the article came out, I'd moved out of Texas and was actually

   visiting the 618 area when the article came out. I seriously doubt that

   anyone you meet in #hack would say, "Y0, d00d, 3Y3 ju$+ c4ctus3d this 

   4ssh0|3 |n my c|4ss!" The whole cactusing thing was just a stupid joke

   that we're doing our best to run into the ground. And when in the hell

   did PLA become a hackers group??? I'll do a semi-detailed explanation 

   of cactus in the next section of this issue.]



  RedBoxChiliPepper gives the following instructions: "Please keep in mind 

that this isn't a list of places to cactus...just list of numbers for you to 

call when you're bored or have some time to blow. Harassment is optional," he 

wrote. "Included are pay phones, businesses, people who need to have the hell 

bugged out of them, weirdos, phreaks, dweebies, sluts, security personel, etc.

If you have any other numbers to add to this list, please contact me and I 

might just add the number to the list. Have fun!"

  Greg and Carolyn Carson of Fairview Heights are among seven local familes on

the list. "We have been having big problems," Carson said. "Two weeks ago, I 

came home from work and had 20 calls on my answering machine." Greg Carson, an 

active computer user, said he engaged in a war of words with the group on one 

of the local computer bulletin boards. "They ordered five pizzas to my work in 

Fairview Heights," he said. "They called all of the local papers and placed 

ads in my name with my home number, saying I have houses for rent, computers 

for sale or that I'm giving away my Rottweiler."



  [The list of course, was PLA007.TXT. War of words, my ass. He insulted 

   every user on a bbs and dared us to do something horrible to him.]





  After a month of this, Carson paid Ameritech $50 for an unpublished number.

That solution lasted a week. "The ad came out today," Carolyn Carson said 

recently. "It was a computer ad with our unpublished number listed." The 

Carsons are frustrated. "The police can't do anything. Ameritech can't help. 

So what are you supposed to do, not have a phone?" she said.

  A spokesman for the FBI in Fairview Heights said the bureau will investigate

only if the calls become overt threats. He would not confirm whether the FBI 

is investigating the Phone Losers. RedBoxChiliPepper responded to attempts by 

the Belleville News Democrat to reach him through a computer bulletin board by 

stating, "No comment."

  

  [A week? Funny, I remember calling Ameritech Assignment and getting the

   new phone number the next morning. "No Comment" was sort of an under-

   statement. It went more like this... I called Brian (the reporter) at

   his home and said, "Hi, this is RBCP." and he said, "Oh, hi, how ya

   doing?" and I screamed as loud as I could, "NO COMMENT!" and slammed

   down the phone. Hey, we thought it was hysterical, okay?



  Almeda Lahr-Well of Glen Carbon said she was harassed in 1994 after she

expelled the other local group member from a private school she owns and 

operates. She said she was having problems with the student, who lives in

Granite City and goes by the nickname Zak. Lahr-Well and her family received a 

series of harassing phone calls - mostly hang-up calls. One of the last calls 

was a bomb threat about the school. The calls stopped for a few months but 

have resumed within the past three weeks, she said.



  [Zak was expelled from there for being a major pain in the ass. He was 

   actually responsible for causing a rule that stated no one was allowed

   to say the word "cactus" during class time. He never really did explain

   to me exactly how that happened. The bomb threat wasn't by us, but by

   another student there named Jason Crews who was trying to frame us.



  Daniel Tomkinson of Granite City said the harassment he has experienced began 

after he allowed a teenage girl who was a friend of his son Chris to stay at

their house for a month after she had been kicked out by her former boyfriend.

The boyfriend, it turned out, was RedBoxChiliPepper. "Almost immediately after 

she started living here, someone listed our house for sale, for rent, ordered 

pizzas to our house," Tomkinson said.

  "We started getting calls at all times of the night threatening my 9-year-

old daughter, saying he was going to kidnap and rape her." A long-distance 

calling card in Chris Tomkinson's name was then distributed around the country, 

netting thousands of dollars in false charges. Someone began renting video 

tapes in Daniel Tomkinson's name without returning them. Someone also called 

in a false drug tip to police about Chris' friends. "This really ruined Chris' 

social life," Tomkinson said. "All I did was display a little kindness to a 

young lady from Texas."

  

  [First of all, Daniel Tomkinson has never lived in Granite City, he lives

   in Rosewood Heights and always has. (You were only off by about 25 miles,

   Brian!) The girlfriend in question wasn't kicked out, but left me because

   she was sick of my shenanagens, I guess. And the problems with Chris were

   never related to this girl, he just assumed they were. Threatening a nine

   year-old kid doesn't really sound like something I do a lot of. These 

   people have to remember, they're on the Loser List which is distributed

   nationally. Anyone could have called them.

   Although renting video tapes under Chris Tomkinson's name sounds really

   appealing, it never happened. What actually happened was that I was 

   sitting in a bus station in Indiana talking on a pay phone talking to

   Zak. (As usual) He decides to call Chris up at home to annoy him. Chris

   answers and Zak goes into a long conversation with him basically saying,

   "I'm Dave from Very Video here in Wood River and we're just wondering

   when in the hell you're going to return your videos...what, you don't

   have a video card here? Well that's funny, I show on my computer here

   that you checked out three copies of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and an

   old Stooges movie...Yes, we have your signature right here and you've

   had these tapes since last week...Well, we have closed circuit cameras

   in here and our security tapes go back one month. Would you like to

   come in and we can see for ourselves that you're telling the truth?"

   Chris is more than happy to come in because he says he knows exactly

   who's responsible for doing this and he can easily identify RBCP on

   the security tapes and he says he'll be there in 15 minutes.

   The funny thing is, Zak was just trying to be stupid and didn't even

   sound convincing, yet Chris still believed him. So after that call we

   phoned the video store and I said, "Yeah, my name's Chris Tomkinson 

   and I rented a tape there and it was totally fucked and I'm PISSED 

   OFF! I'm going to come in there and kick your fucking ass right now!

   I'll be there in 15 minutes mother fucker! When you hear me tell you

   that I'm Chris Tomkinson, you'd better run because I'm going to start

   throwing the punches at you! You got that!?!?" We never did get to see

   the end results on that one...]



  Richard Ahler of Granite City was the leader of a Boy Scout troop that

included the student kicked out of Lahr-Well's school. Some problems led to a 

confrontation between Ahler and Zak, and the student was kicked out of the Boy 

Scout troop as well. Ahler and his family began receiving harassing phone 

calls. "For a while, the calls were obscene. Now they are just a nuisance," 

said Ahler's wife, Linda. "We had lots of pizzas sent to our house. We received

telephone books from Texas that we didn't order, and in the beginning, they

tried to get us to pay for phone service we didn't order." The harassment died 

down but resumed about two weeks ago when someone in Sweeden tried 19 times 

to make collect calls to the family.

  

  [Zak got kicked out of the Boy Scouts?? News to us. The only person we

   know from Sweeden would be Demon Phreaker from OC, so we assume he's 

   responsible for the nineteen collect calls, although I wasn't able to

   get in touch with him to find out for sure. He was a member on my bbs

   and probably got their number from the Loser List... Good job, DP!]



  Sometimes obscene messages are sent through a special phone service provided

for hearing-impaired people called a TDD Relay Service. In that systen, a 

hearing-impared caller -or in this case a hacker- types a message on a TDD

machine that a phone operator must read to the recipient of the call."On one 

obscene call we received from a relay service, the operator was sobbing and 

crying while she tried to read the message," Ahler said. Another victim, 

Elizabeth Colwell of Granite City, lives near the expelled student. She said 

the youth called to harass her once and she asked him why she was chosen. "He 

said he doesn't have a life," she said. The harassment ended with a bomb 

threat, this time to a Hardee's restaurant where Colwell's son used to work.



  [Neither me or Zak could remember making a TDD operator cry so if someone

   out there reading this is responsible for this one, drop me a note. I'd

   really like to know what it takes to make an operator sob! I don't know

   why everyone thinks we're terrorists who make bomb threats everywhere. 

   I'm a civil enough person to not cause the fire department to run around

   town looking for non-existant bombs. I did hear that Colwell's son, Danny,

   was fired from Hardees because some heartless hooligans were calling him

   constantly at work and being mean to his manager. Who could that be...]



  The other local harassment victims declined to discuss the matter openly for

fear of retaliation. All the victims made one common claim - that police and

telephone companies have been unable to stop the harassment. Ameritech spokes-

man Mike Brand said the telephone company has specialists who handle phone 

harassment complaints. Customers should avoid giving their phone number to 

strangers, he added. "You want to zealously guard your number," he said. "The 

telephone is a tremendous convenience, but people choose to use it as an 

instrument of torture at times."

  Who are the Phone Losers of America? The group considers itself an electronic 

magazine dedicated to freedom of information. Local victims of telephone 

harassment believe it has more to do with revenge and kicks. The group has 

issued 36 computer text files that deal with harassment or "phreaking," which 

generally means raiding phone company computers to steal services and 

manipulate records. The files include tiles such as "Getting Revenge the 

Phreakers Way," "Information Gathering on Anyone," and "A List of Number to 

Call When You're Really Bored."

  

  [Guard your number, Mike? It's not the customers who are at fault there,

   the Ameritech employees are the idiots who will give you unlisted and

   confidential information just because you claim to work for them. Better

   advice would probably be "don't go on a private bbs system and dare 

   people to harass you." PLA has issued 36 computer text files? Funny, 

   when this article came out we were only up to 34. I guess he's counting

   the index and Summer '95 Fone Directory.]



  The latter file features the group's list of people to harass, which includes

36 residential phone numbers, 95 business numbers and other assorted numbers

for pay phones and computer bulletin boards nationwide.

  Another file explains how to build a "red box," which allows users to make

free calls from pay phones. Another explains how to break into computer

systems, and another gives details on how to steal services from telephone

company service boxes located outside of homes and businesses. The text files 

are distributed to 23 computer bulletin boards in the U.S. and one in Canada, 

known as PLA distribution sites. A leader of the group, who used to live in 

the metro-east and goes by the name RedBoxChiliPepper, claims to have written 

much of the material.



  [A few things that Zak tried to stress during their short phone interview

   was that we're not a group, it's a damn text file publication and that

   we're not computer hackers nor do we pretend to be but I guess none of

   that sank into Brian's head when he wrote the article. Hey, I guess if

   it sells the paper it's okay...

   I'm not the "leader" of this "group" I just happen to write practically

   everything that goes in each issue. I guess Brian is the leader of the

   Belleville News-Democrat since he wrote this story. At the time of this

   writing we had well over 60 published distro sites on Earth, not 23. 

   And I didn't talk to this guy, let alone "claim to have written much of

   the material"  as he said. Oh well, despite all my griping about how 

   misleading the article was, everyone seemed to enjoy it, including 

   myself. We're still debating on whether or not to add Brian to the

   infamous Loser List. Then someone could write a story about him! One 

   last thing is Quinbus's rebuttal concerning the article. Quinbus is a

   local bbser who wrote the following and sent it in to the newspaper.



    In my opinion, the article mentioned above is possibly the best example 

of 'yellow journalism' that I have ever seen in my life.  Not only did Mr. 

Crecente fail to present a balanced, non-biased article, but he also failed to 

get the facts which he presented correct.  

    Mr. Crecente states that local residents are being harassed by a group 

of local 'hackers' who call themselves the Phone Losers of America (PLA).  

But, if he had done any research at all, he would know that computer hackers 

are people who penetrate computer systems for the purpose of exploring it, 

and gathering knowledge and information.  Hence, the PLA are not hackers at 

all.   They are in fact a small group of 'phreakers' who started distributing 

informational text files a short while ago.  A 'phreaker' is best described 

as someone who exploits flaws in the telephone systems to their advantage.   

Also, he refers to the PLA's version of harassment as "cactusing," which in 

all honesty is the most ignorant statement I have heard in a while, but I 

guess it fits in with all the other nonsense in the article.  It's true that 

some members of the PLA like to use the word 'cactus' more than most people, 

but they usually just throw it in sentences where most people would 'a','the', 

or any other common words.  The bottom line is that there is no such thing as 

cactusing,  and that it is just another piece of information fabricated by 

the reporter.

    Although it may be true that the PLA is or has been harassing certain 

local residents,  it is done only in retaliation.  Harassment is defined as 

"disturbing or irritating persistently."  If this is true, then the PLA is 

only rewarding harassment with counter-harassment.  For instance, the case of 

Greg Carson is particularly relevant.  Mr. Carson - mentioned in the article 

sited above - is known in the local computer BBS scene as The Hit Man.  Aside 

from the obvious implications drawn from his alias, Greg has seemingly only 

had one purpose since I saw him appear in the scene a few weeks ago.  This 

purpose being to cause trouble.   He repeatedly made instigating remarks, 

threats, and other immature ramblings in public areas of at least one local 

BBS.   And when he made such comments to the PLA, they took action.  So why 

is it so bad that this group took such action and counter-harass someone who 

harassed them?

    As I said before, the PLA does distribute informational text files.  And 

in the article, it discussed how one local family reported that someone from

Sweden was trying to bill telephone calls to them.  The PLA can't be held 

responsible for other people's stupidity.  The files are to inform the public 

only, they are not commanding anyone to do anything for them.  If someone 

from Sweden is trying to do these things, they should go to Sweden and find 

them, not bother the PLA.   I sincerely believe that if it weren't for people 

like the members of the PLA and other phreakers around the world, who have 

learned enough about the phone systems and their flaws, the telephone 

companies of the world would not be able to make advances in technology and 

security for the consumer.   Let's face it, if there aren't enough people 

doing something that hurts their company's profit, they will not spend the 

money to develop new systems.  Telephone companies have spent large sums of 

money trying to make the phone systems as secure as possible because of people 

like the PLA, but the systems are much better because of it.

    As for the other major allegations made in the article,  they were thrown 

in to make the story just that much more interesting.  I think with all the 

hype of the Internet and the public's newfound knowledge of the computer 

underground, Mr. Crecente was trying to make his story just that much better 

by turning simple phone phreaks into sex crazed, bomb happy psychos.  The 

allegations that members of the PLA called and threatened to kidnap and rape 

a 9 year old girl are horrendous.  Not to mention implying that the PLA is 

responsible for not one, but two bomb threats.   I believe that in all, this 

reporter used the public's suspicions of the newly discovered computer 

underground as a canvas to paint a very distorted picture of the situation at 

hand.  

    I agree that the public should be aware that there are certain bad aspects 

in the online community.   I do not, however, believe that they should be made 

to feel that just because they go online, that they are going to be harassed.  

Just like the real world, if you harass or threaten someone online, you run 

the risk that they will retaliate.  In general, everywhere in life, the old 

Golden Rule "Do unto others, as you would have done unto you" applies.  If 

these local residents would not have done something harassing to the PLA, the 

PLA would not have harassed them in return.

    In conclusion, if Mr. Crecente would have done more research into this 

story, he would have found that there wasn't much of a story at all.  Perhaps 

only the headline "Telephone Geniuses Get Even."  Instead, he ran a story 

which was filled with half-truths, and worse yet, complete lies.

 

                                                       -quinbus-flestrin-

 

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?              Just What In The Hell Does "Cactus" MEAN?? - RBCP             ?

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  Every once in awhile I get e-mail from people wanting to know what cactus  

means and where it came from and why we're so obsessed with it. The original

meaning of cactus was just to call up a person at random and say absolutely

nothing to them except "cactus". For some reason, this really gets to people

so it can be fun if you're bored enough. 

  I first heard some get cactused when a friend of mine, Amigados (618) came

to my house about four years ago and he started calling people and cactusing

them. So I decided to give him a call and ask him about the origin of cactus.

In a phone interview, here's what was said...

  "Me and some friends of mine were sitting around a friend's room and bored 

out of our minds. We picked up the phone and were pranking this girl that 

Steve used to like and she blew him off. At the time we were playing a game

called Hero's Quest, but we were playing a really screwed up version that they

invented one night when they were tripin' and there were cactuses sprouting up

out of the ground because they were making up really stupid creatures. 

  "I called her right as my character was enveloped by a cactus so I said to 

her, 'cactus?' and she said, 'who?' and I said, 'oh, cactus.' and that's how 

it started. After that we kept calling her back and saying cactus because it 

seemed to really get on her nerves. All night we picked random numbers out of 

the phone book and cactused people and we did it for days and the next thing 

you know it just became a way of life."

  That's the story, Brian Crecente, you shouldn't have tried to base all your

knowledge of the computer underground on a couple of PLA files. Just go into

#hack and ask tr1be about us and you'll hear, "They know nothing! They are

lame!" Try reading Phrack next time.  

  A few more things about Amigados, he used to drive around in car that had a

big cactus drawn on the front side of it along with the word, "cactus" and he

told me that they went around stealing those gigantic real estate magnets off

the side of cars (those huge advertising magnets, you know?), took them home

and cut them out in the shapes of cactuses to stick on their own cars. 



      "To live the cactus is to live like no man." -Amigados, 1995



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?    Dealing With Evil Hackers Cactusing You With A Classified Ad  - RBCP    ?

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  We all learned from Brian Crecente's informative newspaper article that 

those evil hackers that hang out on the information superhighway's #hack and

#virus can do horrible, nasty things to you, known to everyone in the under-

ground world as "cactusing!" One of these things would be to put an ad in the

paper (or several papers) causing your phone to ring non-stop with people

wanting to buy your house, car or rotweiler named Carolyn.

  Well, our friend Greg Carson finally decided that the only thing to do was

to fight back with our own methods and place a few ads in some papers with

Zak's home voice number. One was a car for sale and one was a house. What Greg

didn't know, is that we routinely put ads in the paper ourselves, giving our

own phone numbers so that we can answer the phone and freak out the people

that call. (Sort of reverse prank calling. Too lazy to dial numbers? Make the

people call you!) Greg's ads made for an interesting weekend at Zak's house

and everyone there fought to be the first to answer the phone. Here are a few 

clips of transcripts:



CUSTOMER: I'm calling about the car for sale.

ZAK: Oh, I'm glad you called! I slipped on a jar of mustard and I'm trapped

     here under the shelf. Can you come over and rescue me?

CUSTOMER: Oh, my goodness!

  [The lady ended up calling 911 to help Zak and 911 called Zak's house to

   find out what the problem was.]





CUSTOMER: Yes, is Zak there? I'm calling about the apartment.

COLLEEN CARD: That's my dad, he's in the bathroom taking a shit.

CUSTOMER: Oh, well, I'll just call back later then.

COLLEEN: Yeah, it's a big, gross brown one, I believe...

CUSTOMER: That's not really necessary. <click!>



A half-hour later I got his number from the caller I.D. and called him back,

yelling in a hick accent.



RBCP: Yeah, this is Zak! You called about the apartment!?

CUSTOMER: Uhhh...

RBCP: I'm takin' a major shit right now but my daughter brought the cordless

      phone to me so you go ahead and ask your questions! It's a big, brown,

      stinky shit! What do you need to know!?

CUSTOMER: <click!>





CUSTOMER: Hi, I'm calling about the apartment for rent.

RBCP: Well, it's funny, a wrecking crew was supposed to knock down the house

      next door but they got the address mixed up and knocked down my house

      instead so I can't really rent it anymore.

CUSTOMER: You serious?

RBCP: Yup.

CUSTOMER: Boy, that's crazy. You know, I'm a carpenter and once I was doing

          some work for a fellow up in O'Fallon, roofing some houses and I

          went to the wrong house, pulled up a roof and re-shingled the 

          damn thing. And you know what? It was-

RBCP: (inturrupting) Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I really give a shit about your

      life, pal. Quit babbling to me. <click!>





ZAK: The apartment? Well, see, a misguided ICBM missle accidentally crashed

     into it and the whole block was nuked. I've still got a nice pile of

     rubble to rent out if you want. I'll give you a discount.





ZAK: Oh, the apartment? The funniest thing happened, an airplane crashed into

     the house.

CUSTOMER: An airplane? You're kidding!

ZAK: No, I got there this morning and there was the tail of an airplane 

     sticking out of my house...



So you see, harassment isn't so bad if you have a sense of humor. I remember

one ad we placed a few years ago using my own phone number and I kept 

convincing people that I wasn't home but they could go look at the house by 

themselves and just look in the windows to see what it's like. Then I gave them 

the address of some guy who lived close by and was always home and probably 

wouldn't be too happy with people peering into his windows. So the next time 

you're singled out and can't get any sleep because your phone rings non-stop, 

don't get mad, get creative and have fun. Do it again, Greg!



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?  314-995-1261..................................PLA Voicemail System (Zak)  ?

?  618-797-2339.............................................Roy's Place BBS  ?

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?  ETEXT.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU............................pub/Zines/PhoneLosers  ?

?  rbcp@big12.metrobbs.com...............................RedBoxChiliPepper)  ?

?  cactus@basenet.net....................................Zak a.k.a. el_jefe  ?

?  collcard@big12.metrobbs.com......................To contact Colleen Card  ?

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