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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 12/16/91 19:38 Msg:6913 Call:38985 Lines:4
20 Never believe on faith, see for yourself!
21 What you don't learn, you can't know.
22 - Bertolt Brecht
23 **************************************************************
003=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/16/91 19:59 Msg:6914 Call:38986 Lines:22
24 &*&*&*&*'s
25 At the Top! (Some traditions never die.)
26
27 It was probably obvious that I was a wee bit steamed at the end of the last
28 disk. I still am a bit on the annoyed side. I won't bother to repeat why.
29 I would however like apologize for the tone I took. I have my good days, and
30 I have my bad days. The approach I took was not a good one.
31
32 Frustration can make us do foolish things. It can make us hurt ourselves, and
33 try to hurt others. My personal integrity is VERY important to me. I don't
34 really have much else. When people accuse me of being a stodgy for a boss
35 That I've spoken to maybe half a dozen times in the last 3+ years... Lets
36 just say it seems silly.
37
38 It is very easy to be half assed in ones opinions and beliefs. Information is
39 hard to come by. Fatigue is inevitable. Our best efforts net maybe half the
40 information we really need to know what is going on. Caution and persoverence
41 are good traits, as is the ability to change over time. I pity you if you
42 believe that all the views you now hold are correct.
43
44 An Astral Dreamer
45 &*&*&*&*'s (Just passing the time.)
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46 XXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
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48 Sounds like dear Dr. Doran Duran'sgoing into "Taxi Driver" mode. I
49 wonder of he's a another casualty of the school system.Why doesn't
50 SOMEBODY *DO* a bo?????
51
52 AD: It doesn't really matter if I shoot myself in the foot or not.
53 I'd already been crippled anyway ... I attend PPS and then worked for
54 'em 10 yea. In actual truth, in my 10 years employment, I ACTUALLY
55 regressed. You can hardly get a job anymore withouWord Perfect exper-
005=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 07:40 Msg:6916 Call:38992 Lines:18
56 ience, and if you remember we had to THREE TIMES as much foan
57 ated ineffecve program by Billiams' decree (and
58 I heard he didn't even know how to run a comter).
59
60 And WHAT are you building in Evaluation anyway ... a bigger police state?
61 A huge PGE-type databasee on teachers and students that you can sell (like
62 to PSUHathaway uses to snow the board and the rest of the country
63 howonderful He is ... but also when necessary to show how ineffective
64 an "undesirable" teacher may be doing??? I bet the amount of money used
65 to build up that horrible machine can't even begin to be counted it's been
66 hidden in other budgets so well. Somebody told me the otheday he learned
67 in collidge that the only thing evaluation testing evaluates is the stupid-
68 ity of the author. I think PPS said as much about the state's system.
69
70 And speaking of build-up ... what do you think of police officers in the
71 high schools? I thought Measure 5 was to REDUCE spending. When I worked
72 at the ad bldg there were only 6 officers, I believe.
73
006=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 08:05 Msg:6917 Call:38993 Lines:3
74 XOXOXOXOX Do you ever feel IT's so hopeless you WISH somebody'd finger
75 The Button XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOX
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77
78 But you should be PROUD, AD, because even though His last program didn't
79 have anything to do with the subject, He summed up his last Town Hall
80 with almost a direct quote from one of your sermons. Why doesn't PPS
81
008=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 13:09 Msg:6919 Call:39003 Lines:2
82 put you on its administrative staff. You sure seem more articulate than
83 most administrators I've gotten The Word from.
009=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/17/91 15:22 Msg:6920 Call:39004 Lines:52
84 &*&*&*&*'s
85 There is good evaluation, and there is bad evaluation. Guess what? 99% of
86 it tends to be atleast a little bad. Even if the intent is good, (Which I
87 truelly believe ours is, I ought to know, I work with the people who put the
88 PALTS together.) the results can still be used to bad ends. Our department
89 passes out a lot of information. Does it ever get abused? Probably. Mot
90 Most of the problems are a result of ignorence. We recently stoped reporting
91 % scores for the PALT. Why? Because teachers were looking only at the
92 %'s (Which are darned near meaningless) and not at the rit score. (Which
93 is an absolute measure of student performance. IE, student A would be given
94 a fairly hard test, because past performance had indicated that that
95 test was appropriate. Student B would be given an easier test, also bassed
96 on past performance. Say student A got 48% of the questions correct, and
97 student B got 53%. Some teachers were assuming that that meant that student
98 B had done better then student A, when in fact, student A had a rit score
99 of 220, while student B had a rit score of 205.
100
101 The PALT (Portland Achievment Level Test) is a series of tests. Currently,
102 They are given in grades 3 thru 8. in each grade we have a series, the
103 number tends to vary somewhat, but is ussually around 6 or so. Each of
104 these tests is aimed at a student who is performing at a certain level.
105 The goal of the test is to get the most information abou how the
106 student is performing in various areas. These areas, or goals are set
107 by the curriculam department. The information is put into many reports,
108 including reports to parents, teachers, principles, and board members.
109 I'd assume much of the non student specific data is also available to the
110 public.
111
112 The purpose of these reports is to help parents, teachers and administrators
113 make informed decisions about how they teach and administer. There are not
114 intended to be the only measure, especially in the classroom. Teachers
115 Have an immense advantage in that they know their students on a personal
116 basis. They get to see the students perform, both in class and on assignments.
117 It is the stated policy of the R&E department, and I've heard it voiced many
118 times, that teachers and parents have to have the final say.
119
120 But, the school board needs objective info when setting long term policies.
121 If certain minority groups are doing especially poorly, they need and want
122 t know. PPS has started many programs over the years to help underachieving
123 students.
124
125 Makeing informed decisions is vital. Good evaluation is an immensly valuable
126 tool, but thats all it is. Tools can be used for good or bad. Throwing
127 away the tool would be silly. Its much easier to build a home with a hammer
128 and nails, then it is with the nails missing.
129
130 And as for me being articulate, Thanks. To bad I come of as an idiot in
131 person, sigh.
132
133 An Astral Dreamer
134 &*&*&*&*'s (Strange how our expectations lower as we get older.)
135
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140
141 12-17-91
142
143 Abandoned baby buggy on back street alley. Mother gone. Baby too. Could only
144 hope they were together. Hard to sa with today's moral climate.
145
146 Across the city have seen people sraying the words "Have you got the balls" on
147 store sides and walls. Is the revolution proceeding without sponsorship? Is
148 someone out there waiting for society to come and get him/her?
149
150 President still declines recognition of the recession. On the lighter side he
151 is scheduled for optomitrists appointment this week. Maybe he'll read what's
152 on the taxpayer's lips for a change. So what if he meant "Know new taxes", it
153 wasn't personal. Maybe when he's assinated or removed from office by an
154 unhappy country he'll know it wasn't personal.
155
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158 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
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160 I suppose AD woulwho was repeated rawhile
161 y in a local hospital but
162 lost her case in the Oregon Supreme Court a neurotic whiner
163
164 too huh???
165
012=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/17/91 19:48 Msg:6923 Call:39009 Lines:13
166 &*&*&*&*'s
167 Yow, that last one was garbled. Who'd I call a neurotic whiner? The
168 implication was there I'll admit, but how the h*ll would I know for sure?
169
170 As for the Judge Thomas fiasco, I don't know who was telling the truth. I
171 remember posting my feelings on sexual harrasment at the time, so I won't
172 bother to do so again.
173
174 BTW, thanks for makeing this interactive.
175
176 An Astral Dreamer
177 &*&*&*&*'s (The end never justifies the means)
178
013=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/17/91 22:18 Msg:6924 Call:39015 Lines:31
179 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=-----------------------------
180 I'm glad the disk finally got changed...I've got to admit, though, the
181 debate going on between Astral Dreamer and someone who's name isnt' all
182 that obvious.
183
184 We are all faced with an interesting daily dilemma...do we want to
185 be pure ideologues...or do we want to eat and sleep in a warm
186 place of our (temporary) own? This may not be what 'Dreamer's situation
187 is, but the reference to having integrity questioned and that it seemed
188 to be connected to whatever it is that 'Dreamer does for a living made
189 me reflect on the personal compromises that we all make each day just to
190 get along.
191
192 I've come to the personal conclusion that the small daily battles
193 are important, but if they are lost every other time it doens't matter
194 so much as the big picture: to thine own self be true. If we can afford
195 to live our lives along pure ideals, fine. Nobody should be blamed
196 if they have to make a compromise to get along though.
197
198 I wouldn't like to use petroleum at all. But I gotta get to work.
199 I don't like the things that happen to produce electricity, but I find
200 them necessary. I don't like trees dying, but I have to have paper to
201 draw on (I haven't yet found drafting vellum made of recycled materials).
202
203 I've lived my life honestly, though. And I don't think that that's more
204 than anyone has a right to expect of another.
205
206 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=--------------------------------
207 Since I'm a new guy again I deserved the top of the disk. 'Dreamer, you
208 are a pooker.
209 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
014=Usr:663 Brittania Klein 12/18/91 02:21 Msg:6925 Call:39019 Lines:7
210 >>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> Yo! <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<
211 C'mon, Justin, you hit the top a couple of times, as I remember.
212 Anyway.....
213
214 <sigh> Where are the days of old when time was freer and so was a lot else?
215
216 >>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> Britt <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>>
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016=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/18/91 06:41 Msg:6927 Call:39023 Lines:5
218 (O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)
219
220 So I wonder how much the wonderful Hospital/Good Doctors made off this
221 woman's surgery???
222
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223
224 ****************************************************
225
226 Hmmmmmmm ... funny story in the paper today about the Browns. I'd heard
227 the senior Mr. Brown got prostrate cancer some time after the rape convic-
228 tion. Mr. Brown helped me moved my compost down to my new place about
229 this time and I went to his house to pay him. Jackie was staying there
230 and was in a chair in a fetal position. Mrs. Brown, a darling old woman
231 (looked much older than Mr. Brown) was very cheerful and chipper and offered
232 me a cup of tea. I saw Al Brown repeatedly over the years taking walks in
233 the neighborhood looking very sad ... and he didn't seem to have Alzheimers.
234 What worries me is that I was told the owner of the gas station that lived
235 right across the street has the same name as a person convicted of murder
236 earlier this year.
237
238 But I suppose they must KNOW what their doing down there ... hopefully more
239 than they know about neighborhood tax assessors, policemen, nursing home
240 owners, truck stope owners, sewer departments, land developers/deedholders,
241
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242 etc.
243
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244 etc. ... but then maybe those CRIMES are "legal." Hard to tell most of the
245 time.
246
020=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/18/91 10:53 Msg:6931 Call:39030 Lines:12
247 %#%#%%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#
248
249 Interesting reading the "small" PPS staff directory. I see where a former
250 Board member holds the same position for the district as Marge does for
251 the City. Funny, I noticed in some Board "Minutes" (if they still publish
252 them) that another former Board member (or someone with a coincidentally
253 identical rather uncommon name) receives large" legal fees from PPS too.
254
255 #%#%#% Rieke's college-aged receptionist has the same name as one of the
256 former's too ... probably just a coincidence, same as for Sean Hathaway of
257 Hathaway
258 the same office #%##%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#
021=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/18/91 16:15 Msg:6932 Call:39033 Lines:10
259 &*&*&*&*'s
260 Please elaborate on the Hathaway thing. As far as I know, Walt is the only
261 one that works for the district. His kids are all around 20 or so I
262 believe, and his familey is not from around here as far as I know.
263
264 Oh no, could it be? coincidence?
265
266 An Astral Dreamer
267 &*&*&*&*'s
268
022=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/18/91 19:26 Msg:6935 Call:39038 Lines:12
269 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
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271 12-18-91
272
273 So many names and numbes. Two more weeks and I'll be back in the running. How
274 can I love it and hate it at the same time?
275
276 Bar your doors and lock your shutter. I'm back on the street and lost in the
277 shuffle.
278
279 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
280
023=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/18/91 21:51 Msg:6936 Call:39039 Lines:29
281 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=-------------------------------
282
283 True Love defined: I just discovered that Morton Downey, Jr. (remember
284 him, babies?) found a cute wife while he was still famous. So, here he is,
285 at the bottom, close to bankruptcy, and guess what...she's still with him.
286 He was an ugly, idiotic putz. This is True Love and Devotion [tm]. Ask
287 for it by name.
288
289 From the Theatre of the Cruel: what I wish Marko Haggard's disclaimer
290 REALLY disclaim on the Channel 2 News:
291
292 "The opinions expressed by Marko Haggard are not those of KATU, its
293 staff and employees. Also, it's not shared by most of Marko's brain
294 cells, many members of Mensa, cute small fuzzy animals like cats and
295 bunnies, and the elephant's up and Washington Park. Rumors that a
296 small dog once spotted on the corner of The Alameda and NE 57th Ave,
297 just under the statue of George Washington, cannot be substatiated
298 as the pooch has disappeared mysteriously."
299
300 Actually, I like Marko's opinions. He's a well spoken individual,
301 and amazingly clear headed. I do wonder Exactly Who He Is and Where
302 He Came From, though.
303
304 Think on this: I don't trust any elected official who needs to be
305 addressed by other than thier first name. I don't think You should,
306 either.
307
308 Most of need to be referred to by title. Says something.
309 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=--------------------------------
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310 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX
311
312 Just so's I'm not accused of ather type of ingore-ancethe Clarence
313 Thomas type, f instance), before I start another of my repetitive
314 tirades, let me clear up a few ambiguities I've left with such
315 adoring crown <grin> (I know most of you wish I'd just drop dead what
316 wi the loyalty clauses written into your many employment cont
317 (REALLY, check out your job descriptions and evaluation forms) but ...)
318
319 About the new Free Way toull Mt.: call it a freeway because the folks
320 that "need" it and are most " it (in ERY sense of the
321 word) will get it FREhile the resus are taxed ontots to
322 starve in the winter cold). I could probably correctly presume that
323 the Ames/Johnsons (who own the South half of the ve enough money
324 to pay somebody amply (or enough Friends) to make sure They DON'T pay
325 for nuthing, but I've also noticed what seems like a scam in many
326 of these mini-mansion Projects favorite son" developers, liken
327 Bull Mt. (AND even tacky revolting developments like Citadel Est).
328 It seems like theseces/hovels (whichever) rotate "membership"
329 about every three years, meaning they sell or, more likely,
330 go bankrupt when Their interest is paid off and they dont stand to have
331 it all "tax returned" to them when they start paying on Their principals.
332 And never mind what Father Faust said about BANKRUPTCY ... we all know
333 certain "Members" will get Their loans regardless, especially if they
334 have "friendly" Bankers or Developers/Deedholders (or City/County Commis-
335 sioner friendswho may have many side-scams going. I mean really, can
336 you IMAGINE what it'd be like if we ALL thought we deserveduch privi-
337 ledges???? NOTHING would work RIGHT no more. Know what I mean??
025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/19/91 08:41 Msg:6938 Call:39044 Lines:48
338 &*&*&*&*'s
339 Alas, if only there weren't so many badly garbled messages here on good
340 old BWMS II. Uploads are tricky, and it strikes me that some people should
341 have given up on them by now.
342
343 Heres they lyrics to a song I wrote a couple of months back. When I looked
344 at it again recently, it really scared me. I thought it was just about
345 being depressed, but I think it goes farther then that.
346
347 Been living here so long
348 Don't know what went wrong
349 Try to understand, but it takes so long.
350
351 A feather in my cap
352 A fortune in my heart
353 I hear the sirens call, wonder where it leads.
354 I hear the sirens call, wonder where it leads.
355 I hear the sirens call, wonder where it leads.
356
357 Money is the answer
358 Or is it love?
359 Can I have both, someday I'll know.
360
361 A garden side chat
362 Can that be all
363 Falling off this bridge, and it seems so far
364 Falling off this bridge, and it seems so far
365 Falling off this bridge, and it seems so far
366
367 Not an upbeat song, but it just seems to fit together so well. I write a lot
368 of poetry, most of it garbage. But once in awhile I write something that
369 really has meaning for me. I can write meaningless drivel, but it feels
370 just like meaningless drivel.
371
372 I don't even always understand what I am writing at first, its almost as if
373 my sub concious is trying to communicate to me thru the words I write.
374
375 It's really hard for me to be verbose in verse. I like to get as much as
376 possible across in the fewest amount of words, to encapsulate some
377 facet of my life in four or five versus.
378
379 Oh well, enough for now. Its well past time for me to start writting
380 short stories again. I've even got a semi interesting background
381 worked out. Maybe in the next week or two.
382
383 An Astral Dreamer
384 &*&*&*&*'s (I heard it in a dream)
385
026=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/19/91 10:31 Msg:6939 Call:39047 Lines:35
386 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
387
388 You DO have soul AD, so I'll ignore the pointed sarcasm in the last para-
389 grap <grin>. And I'm sorry I was so rudely interrupted. I had to hang
390 up because of the LINE NOISE, which if I were presumptous and paranoid I
391 think MIGHT be PGE sending power surges, but I don't so I'm not. I
392 will try to go back and "correct" what looks like gibberish above, but I
393 swear it's my COMPUTER thats SICK ***NOT ME*** <grin>.... so here's the
394 rest of the above story.
395
396 But who knows, maybe "Big Business" (or "Big Government") is buying 'em
397 for Ther employees, too. I got wind not long ago of a local Institution
398 looking to pay $28,000 per year **JUST FOR YARDWORK ALONE** for one of
399 Their Benevolent Regent Figureheards .and THIS on top of a humungous
400 salary PLUS a free house (and god(dess) only KNOWS what ELSE).
401
402 And about KATU ... In my own uttermost Humble Opinion, I think of all
403 the Channels THEY are the most propagandistic ... or bought off, or
404 whatever. And I resent it that they think we're such insecure idiots
405 that we need the NEWS?? presented to us by matching pairs of "couples"
406 I also hated it when we were all forced into witnessing the "inside" of
407 their offce politics ... like when now Sleezecaster Bill O'Reilly was
408 Here and He and Jeffie would perform their great rolling of eyes over
409 Richard Ross. I got te impression they dd the same thing to David Apple,
410 but then I might just be to "sensitive" to these things, what with my
411 cumulative experience and 10 years at the school district and all (whee
412 I found these types of behaviors fostered thru Executive/Board/Union
413 Modeling and Mandate).
414
415 And let me also apologize for repeatedly misusing the term "ADMINISTRA-
416 TIVE" in former invectives about PPS (and COP). I don't mean to imply
417 that ALL Administrators aretic brutes LIKE DAN KLEE. I refer
418 mostly to the Executive staff who Develop ad Defend Dominator-Type
419 Administrators LIKE Dan Klee (and Ron Hanlon, Jeff Sachtler, Sue
420
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426 12-19-91
427
428 Rich politicians distribute the wealth, but they're afraid that we'll run away
429 and never better ourselves down on the inside. They're building statues of
430 steel.
431
432 Protect me from your enemies. And there they sit with their children weeping.
433
434 If you dont want me taggin along why dont you turn around and tell me so,
435 instad of wasting my time. But on the horizon it's so hard to tell. Help me
436 up to touch the sky, don't keep me down on the ground by broken promises.
437
438 And the wheel turns again. How much can one see from a window in the city?
439 From the right perspective you can see it all.
440
441 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
442
029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/19/91 17:20 Msg:6942 Call:39052 Lines:11
443 &*&*&*&*'s
444 Try to ignore me if I get testy. I've been in a really bad mood lately.
445
446 Reminds me of another verse
447
448 Cryin out with no hope or asperation
449 Reaching for the common touch, which is above your station.
450
451 An Astral Dreamer
452 &*&*&*&*'s (Sometimes good things happen)
453
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454 ^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^##^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#
455
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456
457 WHY doesn't PPS have a union like the STATE employees??? And
458 I wonder if they wouldn't be a better "replacement" tn PAT???? But
459 hey, may they're the ones I should be "talking to" huh? They MIGHT
460
032=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/19/91 18:29 Msg:6945 Call:39055 Lines:2
461 even know IF there IS a GOOD lawyer (NOT Liar). I should
462 at least SHOW them my "stuff" from PPS Executives.
033=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/19/91 19:48 Msg:6946 Call:39056 Lines:33
463 --------------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------
464
465 About the news: It doesn't matter whether or not the game is rigged.
466 Complaining about the news being biased or the media's bias...either way...
467 is tantamount to saying "I can't think for myself, I'm helpless from
468 having my mind molded by the TV." The truth is hidden, but it's not
469 impossible to find.
470 I watch the TV with my #10 Bullshit filter in permanent place. I don't
471 depend on anyone to sort out what they tell me. I listen to a lot of
472 Talk Radio: between Rush Limbaugh and Ray Taliaferro, I compute the
473 average and figure the truth is right about there, in the middle. I realize
474 that people are greedy inherently; therefore, when pols and corp execs
475 cheat and lie and steal, I'm not surprised; and if I'm clever enough
476 that day, I can do an end run around it and save my soul and my mind if
477 not my money.
478 I also don't believe that everyone in the news business is out to lie
479 to you. That doesn't mean, though, that I think they tell me the truth
480 all the time.
481
482 The only truth I know about folx who complain about the news being
483 biased or unfair is that they usually have an ox being gored somwhere
484 or the other.
485
486 On the subject of unions: unions are made of people, and people do the
487 organizing. If you want a Labor union in your workplace, organize one.
488 Contact AFSCME, for instance; they certainly can be of advice, if noting
489 else. Or, if they don't, just get the talk started amongst those you
490 trust for good advice. There's safety in numbers...but the numbers
491 don't just happen.
492 Anyone can organize. You are more powerful than you think.
493 --------------------------=Justin the Blue=----------------------------
494 An opinionated son of a bitch. Yes, babies.
495 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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496 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
497
498@12-20
499@
500 12-20-91
501
502 The rain beats against the walls of the city like the men in the padded cells.
503 Trying to get in and cleanse themselves from the infected sanitized rooms
504 society expects us to stay in like well trained dogs.
505
506 Our leashs can be broken.
507
508 The city holds itself in a cell, and we can only move about it, or break free
509 of it. You must choose.
510
511 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
512
035=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/20/91 21:53 Msg:6949 Call:39073 Lines:23
513 ----------------------=Justin the Blue=-------------------------------
514 The city imprisons only those on our level who wish to be imprisoned.
515 I was money-poor, but broke free and left for another place where I could
516 reestablish perspective and grow in a worldly way.
517
518 I do not return willingly to a prison. If someone wishes to call me
519 imprisoned, that is fine; by the same token, I am not offbase to suggest
520 that the suggestion is very mistaken.
521
522 It can be argued that we are "leashed" to something. But it can
523 also be suggested that the leash is a result of a general lack of
524 ambition. There are indeed circumstances that we cannot control that
525 are stifiling us. They are not pervasive. The trick is to learn
526 to discern between what you cannot change, what you can change, and
527 what you can avoid. To suggest that we are all completely puppets
528 is to suggest that we shouldn't even bother to get up in the AM. I,
529 for one, find that thought repulsive.
530
531 Angst is fine, but angst is not all. Man cannot make a difference
532 with angst alone, and if you know how, angst can be a fun toy.
533 --------------------------=Justin the Blue=----------------------------
534 Because sky blue is my favorite color...not because life is pointless.
535 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
036=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/21/91 07:56 Msg:6951 Call:39078 Lines:35
536 &*&*&*&*'s
537
538 In a dream I wandered thru a museum. It contained pictures that were
539 scenes from my life. I saw the sadness and the anger, but I also saw the hope.
540
541 I saw the little things that brought me down, the put downs and the jokes.
542 But on this second viewing I realized they had no real weight.
543
544 My journey continued for many hours, the pictures a walk of life.
545 The trip a needed reminiscing, their scenes broad with my life.
546
547 I saw many views within, to many, far to many. The looking out scenes
548 lost amoungst the navel gazing angst.
549
550 And then I came to a new place. Construction, building onto it. New
551 pictures to be painted, new images to view.
552
553 I thought of the unbalance, and swore that I would try. To look outside
554 and see the world, for someday I must die.
555
556 The price the inner lookers pay is to always live withing. To never
557 live within in the world, to miss the obvious.
558
559 Hid inside too much, too much. These new wing of the museum must be filled
560 with the outside, but I know I cannot rush.
561
562 The easy journey is taken and forgotten. Seldom do we ever comment on the
563 short and easy trip.
564
565 I'd walked into the present. There I stood to wait. Lived to long in the
566 past now. There is no turning back.
567
568 An Astral Dreamer
569 &*&*&*&*'s (When the verse flows.)
570
037=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/21/91 08:53 Msg:6952 Call:39079 Lines:11
571 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO Uhhhh, pass the Underwear, please .
572
573 and the Other Sadistic Brutes and Brutesses I wished to list when I was
574 so rudely kicked off the system <grin/m> were:
575
576 Parker, Myra Rose, Linda Simington & Ancestors & Family,
577 Candy and John-Bill Beck, Sharon Clouser, Prth, Bob Williams &
578 Harem (en though Bob suddenly vanished in to thin air), Merle Brad-
579 ford & Ed Smiust the mention of which, I've observed, causes
580 trembling) and of course Head Brute Don McElroy.
581
038=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/21/91 09:51 Msg:6953 Call:39080 Lines:3
582 XOXOXOXOX Excuse, make that PANTIES. "Pass the Panties" IS much nastier,
583 after all.
584
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585
586 To say nuthin' of the Titation value <PANT PANT, SLURP SLURP ...
587 (sniffsniff)>
588
040=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/21/91 12:18 Msg:6955 Call:39084 Lines:16
589 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
590
591 12-21-91
592
593 On way home today watched small kitten run over by T-Max. Kitten sat there,
594 hissing, but not giving ground. Max Operator didn't see the cat. After the
595 train passed it was hard to miss it, strewn about the track for a good 20 feet.
596
597 We are much like the cat. Some stay their ground and dont give in. Some hate
598 the rain and the feel of it. Bury their heads between the swollen teats of
599 indulgence and gratification, piglets squirming beneath a sow for shelter.
600
601 But there is no shelter. And the future is bearing down like an express train.
602
603 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
604
041=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/21/91 14:23 Msg:6956 Call:39085 Lines:7
605
606 xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
607
608 BTW, Linda S., Eleanor-Hera and Myra all worked together with
609 Evaluation on the TRIAL social studies implementation. Maybe THIS
610 Trinity should be the subject of a REAL social study.
611
042=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/22/91 02:24 Msg:6957 Call:39094 Lines:41
612 -----------------------=Justin the Blue=--------------------------------
613 Anyone has any Commodore disk drives that they are willing
614 to let go of cheap?
615
616 I have a Commodore Plus/4. It's a neat little machine, not as
617 graphics or sound capable as the '64 (no sprites and only three voices
618 for sound), but it has some good built in software (word processor,
619 spreadsheet), and I'd like to use it for personal projects...perhaps
620 even a bbs some day in the future.
621
622 Only problem is, I've no storage for it. Disk drives, I mean. Or
623 maybe even a lowly Commodore Datassette...I could settle with that for
624 now, to get things rolling. I'm going to use a trashy B/W TV for the
625 monitor. Disk storage is the thing.
626
627 Reason I'm looking for a price-favor is because we are a little cash-
628 poor after our move in from Corvallis and Christmas and all, and I
629 don't think I'm out of line assuming that there's someone who would
630 like to get rid of some old Commodore peripherals enough that they'd
631 nearly give them away; hell, someone gave the the Plus/4 for nothing.
632 It's a neat lil' machine I'd really like to put to work.
633
634 WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR:
635
636 Commodore 1541 or 1551 Disk drive
637 (at least one, two would be great)
638 OR....Commodore 1531 Datassette.
639
640 WHAT I CAN PAY:
641 Not much right now. If there's someone
642 Who really wants to get rid of thier
643 old 1541's or 1551's, email me here
644 (user number 658), on Artistic Licence
645 (user name: Justin the Blue), or
646 justink@m2xenix.psg.com (eagle@agora.rain.com,
647 once batie can get it running again).
648 OR...call my answering machine at 234-xxxx.
649 Who knows...maybe we can make a deal.
650
651 advTHANKSance,
652 ------------------------=Justin the Blue=-------------------------------
043=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/22/91 03:22 Msg:6958 Call:39095 Lines:6
653 &*&*&*&*'s
654 One mans lurk is another mans short message.
655
656 An Astral Dreamer
657 &*&*&*&*'s (In the early morning hours.)
658
044=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 06:20 Msg:6959 Call:39096 Lines:9
659 XOXOXOXOXXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
660
661 I suppose I SHUDDA been more furious about Prophet all this time
662 because, like Clarence Thomas he cudda/SHUDDA made
663 a difference. Certainly, saying that he'd defend
664 Don McElroy to his dying breath
665 should indicate there's some kinda serious
666 problem.
667
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668
669
670 W (and still catching up on my ignore-ance, another thing
671 that bothered me about KATU is that they always seemed to refer to them-
672 selves as CELEBRITIES. They're NOW using Jim Apple's cat to
673 retract any such arrogance, however.
674
046=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 07:01 Msg:6961 Call:39098 Lines:5
675
676 RORSCHACH: Did you analyze the grease spots? Maybe you could put your finding
677
678 through PPS' psychometric testing program and send the results to PGE/DMV???
679
047=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 07:11 Msg:6962 Call:39099 Lines:5
680 P>S> There are millions of miles of grease spots you in your exalte"intelligen
681 system have overlooked. BTW, inputting on this system
682 is too much like working at PPS. It's too much of a hassle and there are
683 too many obstacles to overcome.
684
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685
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686
687 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX
688
689 And didn't Porter Sexton vanish into the ozone about the same time as
690 Lover-Boy Bob. Some say he SURFACED in a much bettposition at the
691 SAT Bureau. This after we spe much time in Word Processing doing
692 upteem drafts of his thesis via dictaphone. I could never figure out
693 who got the better deal, though, between Porter or Walt. We CLOSED
694 Word Processing for I don't know HOW long to do Walt's wife's thesis ...
695 input, proofed and redone. But that's a whole 'nother Book.
696
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697 PPS Executives/Dominator Administrators stage civil wars over such issues,
698 ater all. But this has nothing to do with Board overlordship.
699
051=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/22/91 10:02 Msg:6966 Call:39105 Lines:16
700 &*&*&*&*'s
701 Our tests have ZERO to do with inteligence. Note the word achievment in
702 Portland Achievment Levels Test. I'm a fairly bright person, and there
703 are HS kids who can score higher on these tests. Why? because I havn't
704 used half the stuff we test since middle school. You may question the
705 validity of these tests in that light, but remember we don't set the
706 curiculum.
707
708 Please try to criticize the test, rather then your false perception of what the
709 test is. I am more then happy to answer any questions you may have, as
710 well as correcting the misinformation you seem so anxious to spread.
711
712 An Astral Dreamer
713 &*&*&*&*'s (Fighting for truth and justice, and thus fighting a good % of the
714 american way.)
715
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716
717 And speaking of OZONE, whatever happened to Karen Gorder???
718
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719
720 And since you're ALSO talking about ROAD KILL, I must admit that I **AM**
721 imbalanced. While eating breakfast this morning, I overheard a conver-
722 sation about the teenager here who just got 6 rounds pumped into his chest
723 by our "unaccountable" community police. I surely am missing the point
724 somewhere.
725
054=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/22/91 12:02 Msg:6969 Call:39108 Lines:14
726 &*&*&*&*'s
727 That case struck me as wierd as well. 6 bullets? Whens the last time a
728 portland cop got killed? Yet, they seem to have a tendancy to hose anybody
729 who even points a weapon in their general direction. Gotta wonder
730 how 'profesional' that is.
731
732 If I don't here about a firing, I'll be only mildly surprised. The police
733 union in this city seems to have the ability to make sure that even the
734 most blatent incompatence. (To understate something that looks a lot
735 like manslaughter, if not murder.)
736
737 An Astral Dreamer
738 &*&*&*&*'s (Peanut butter on the roof of your mouth)
739
055=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/22/91 16:49 Msg:6970 Call:39109 Lines:17
740 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
741
742
743 12-22-91
744
745 Wacthed the city from high today as I climbed the building and watched the ants
746 pass below. Around me the birds flew oblivious to the decay below. But it's
747 still there when they land, only the distance affects the observation.
748
749 Offices below. Headstones marking daily graves of thousands. Inside, across
750 clock faces, as observed as those of celebrities, hands commence final laps.
751
752 Oblivion gallops closer, favoring the spur, sparing the rein. Famine and war
753 already visited apon us, other horsemen cant be too far behind.
754
755 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
756
056=Usr:26 Mohammed Wassir 12/23/91 00:43 Msg:6971 Call:39118 Lines:6
757 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+
758 Excuse me? Are we talking about the kid that stabbed the police officer,
759 then got shot because of it? If it was me, I woulda shot him too . . .
760 with everything I had. The kid made his choice and paid for it. Life's
761 tough. No apologies.
762 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+
057=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/23/91 07:02 Msg:6972 Call:39120 Lines:14
763 &*&*&*&*'s
764 He threw a knife at the cop, causing a wound that didn't even require stitches
765 as far as I know. The cop then shot at him atleast 7 times, hitting 6. Yea,
766 I could see myself doing the same in that situation. If I weren't a
767 professional sworn to protect the public.
768
769 The cop lost his head, plain and simple. The kid wasn't white, so he got
770 shot many many times. If the kid had been white and looked middle
771 class, he'd still be alive. Don't believe it? Fine, live in your
772 fantasy world.
773
774 An Astral Dreamer
775 &*&*&*&*'s (Not nearly this sarcastic in person.)
776
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777 &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%
778
779 I'd alwaySAID it was BrudoSherry ran into in the parking lothat
780 day but I was never sure untay when my friend said he saw
781 a book dat VV with the picture othe secretary from the history
782 For some reason he didn't buy the book even tho' it
783 was only .50 or so. So we hopped in the luxury car and headed on out
784 to make posI ran into Sherry some years back and she gave me
785 a two-block ride to the ad and she never said a thing and neither
786 diI. I really shudda thanked hnot that he wudda picked me out of
787 the ongs ... I look like a 14-yo boy ... or used to; but I used to
788 sunbathe on top of the parking str just because nobody el was
789 ever there and if push came to shove). Jerry picked perxactly the
790 WRONG woman when he chose Sherry, though ... thank GOD!
791
792 We also had, about that time, a tall black predator that hung
793 around PSU for absolutely YEARS. I ran into him once in an isolated
794 hallway on the backside of Old Main and was scared to death.He ended
795 up as a bouncer for awhile at the Portland Center Red Lion, but I don't
796 know what happened to him after that. uhe once was with a small
797 gang oguys standing in front the PSPE bldg and I was walking hom
798 to the apt. next door when they whistled at me. Well, you know how
799 THAT goes.It's so damn irritating, then embarrass ... especially
800 when you're damned if you do and damned if you don't respond. So when
801 I didn't, they started throwing rocks. THank god my friend was
802 waiting for me on a bench in the next park block. He swears
803 one of the other guys was Randy Woodfield, but I dunno.
804
059=Usr:26 Mohammed Wassir 12/23/91 14:27 Msg:6974 Call:39125 Lines:35
805 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+
806 Ah, AD, getting a little snippy, aren't we. I'll try to hold my
807 temper and not reply in kind, though you'll have to excuse me if
808 I don't take your 'interpretation' of events as gospel. I assume
809 you got your info from the Oregonian, a questionable source at
810 best. If you'd care to quote court documents, that
811 would be fine.
812
813 I hear you saying that the standard of care should be different for
814 you from a police officer in a shooting situation. Although there
815 are differences in the law regarding the use of deadly force between
816 normal citizens and law enforcement officers, in this case, the
817 standard is the same. A police officer (or citizen) may use deadly
818 physical force if threatened with serious physical injury. The courts
819 have held that what is important is the perception of the threat by
820 the officer at the time of the use of force. There are several examples
821 of police officers shooting people wielding unloaded weapons. There is
822 no requirement that the officer say "Excuse me sir, do you mind if I
823 check the gun that you're pointing at me to see if it's loaded before
824 I shoot you?" Nor is there a requirement that the officer wait to
825 see how seriously he is injured (your number of stitches argument)
826 before using deadly force. The courts have also held numerous times
827 that being threatened with a knife is a threat of serious physical
828 injury.
829
830 I guess my point is that unless you're standing in that particular officer's
831 shoes, it's difficult for you to pontificate about whether the shooting
832 was righteous or not. That's what a court of law is for. I assume that
833 if the officer was wrong, then the courts will so rule. Sometimes we
834 make life and death decisions in a split second then live with the results
835 for the rest of our lives.
836
837 I found your last message somewhat abusive. I almost replied in kind, but
838 I won't. It serves no purpose.
839 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ V.
060=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/23/91 18:11 Msg:6975 Call:39130 Lines:24
840 &*&*&*&*'s
841 I apologize. I was abusive, and without good reason.
842
843 Yes, I did get my info from the Oregonian, not a great source I know, but
844 the only one available right now. I'm sure there is an investigation going
845 on, but I'd be very much surprised if the records were available to the
846 public at this time.
847
848 The way it was portrayed in the Oregonian was as follows. Cop stops car,
849 copy asks suspect to get out of car. suspect gets out of car and throws
850 knife at cop. At this point suspect has no weapons in hands. Cop fires
851 seven bullets. Cop hits suspect 6 times.
852
853 In my book, thats excessive force. Maybe it didn't happen that way. We'll
854 find out in a few months no doubt.
855
856 If the kid had been waving a gun, I'd say he got what he deserved.
857
858 I thank you for your restraint. Its good to see somebody setting a good
859 example. I will do the same in the future.
860
861 An Astral Dreamer
862 &*&*&*&*'s (Eating my words)
863
061=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/23/91 19:21 Msg:6976 Call:39132 Lines:27
864 ---------------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------
865 I admire 'Dreamer's wherwithal to concede the last point. I, myself, did
866 a lot of thinking and info gathering WRT to the kid who got killed in the
867 altercation with the Law.
868 Sure, it shouldn't have happened. I am, however, respectfully withholding
869 my sorrow. The family should rightly grieve, but I won't. The kid was
870 stupid. I understand he had a history of getting into trouble that people
871 with real IQ's would avoid (and don't give me the environmental crap. Smart
872 people stay out of trouble. Successes come out of the get-toe every day.
873 I think of it as evolution in action), and then he goes, robs a store, and
874 then when stopped, comes out and stabs a man who is armed to the teeth and
875 trained to (and this is important) DEFEND HIMSELF WHEN ATTACKED.
876
877 Stupid.
878
879 Let me put it to you this way: if you're stupid enough to come after me
880 with a knife if I were armed with a sidearm, you'd be lucky if they found
881 one of your short hairs to bury. Or, another way: a buffoon who pokes
882 a tiger with a stick may not deserve to die, only to be tapped back with a
883 stick.
884 But you think he's gonna be tapped back with a lil' ol' stick? If you
885 said to yourself, "heck, no, Justin, he's gonna die horribly," then the
886 light just may be coming on in your head. Congratulations.
887
888 It's like some wise sf writer (I think) said: you live and your learn.
889 Or you don't live long.
890 ----------------------------=Justin the Blue=-----------------------------
062=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/24/91 05:34 Msg:6977 Call:39139 Lines:9
891 &*&*&*&*'s
892 I guess I just have a higher expectation of how a profesional is supposed to
893 act in such a situation.
894
895 It does seem to be true that the kid had a death wish.
896
897 An Astral Dreamer
898 &*&*&*&*'s (Lack of humility is not my shortcoming.)
899
063=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/24/91 08:05 Msg:6978 Call:39142 Lines:6
900 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
901
902 I suppose the Young Kennedy-Smith Boy used safe sex, even though he WAS
903 uh .. picked up???? He is a 3-4th year med student after all.
904
905 He MUST carry them in his wallet for just such frequent occasions, huh?
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906
907 And did he used a NEW one the second time around (this trip). Maybe this
908 is an issue that otta maybe be DISCUSSED, you know???? I mean the guy is
909 so wonderfully verile and all, a regular sex machine I think it was phrased.
910 Are these things guaranteed in such situations????????
911
912 Perhaps the Board might could edit e curriculum in this regard.
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913
914 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
915
916 12-24-91
917
918 No sleep last night. Walked through the cold night air. Felt dark world turn
919 under my feet again. Good.
920
921 Families are gathering to celebrate the death of a man they thought was born.
922 Funny, Roman began census nearly two thousand years ago and listed him as
923 being born in spring.
924
925 But then no one listens to history.
926
927 In nineteen twenty the truck drivers were being laid off. The price of foods
928 was climbing, and stock prices were fluxing violently. And the president
929 had said everything was fine.
930
931 It's happening again.
932
933 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
934
066=Usr:186 Wesley Smith 12/24/91 15:35 Msg:6981 Call:39154 Lines:2
935 I wish to ta\ke this time to wish one and all a safe and happy holiday season.
936 Remember drinking and driving don't mix, so be a designated driver and say no
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937 /-]#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
938
939 There's no tomorrow, just today. Find it is best to do things now or there is
940 a price to be paid for tardiness. Find the quickest way to a point is by walk-
941 ing the thinnest line. On the edge
942
943 Some us of have always lived on the edge. It is even possible to survive here
944 if one observes the rules:
945
946 Just hang on by fingernails and never look down.
947
948 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\
949
068=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/26/91 00:36 Msg:6983 Call:39170 Lines:12
950 ----------------------=Justin the Blue=---------------------------------
951 I'm fairly happy. A little guilty. This holiday season has been good
952 to me in terms of bridges built between people. Many these days don't
953 have it so good, and I hurt for them; not so long ago, I was one of them.
954 If I could, I'd lift them out too.
955
956 One Christmas wish that I would have is; that the only homeless out
957 there are the ones who truly wish to be. Let those that want homes and
958 safety have it.
959
960 Also, I'd wish that there were more often TWO disks with space on BW.
961 ---------------------=Justin the Blue=----------------------------------
069=Usr:26 Mohammed Wassir 12/26/91 15:44 Msg:6985 Call:39179 Lines:16
962 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+
963 AD: Thanks. I'll keep silent on the subject from now on.
964
965 A recent conversation.
966
967 "Yes, the Silvia Beach Hotel is really neat. All the rooms are in a
968 different writer's motiff," I said.
969 "You should go back there someday," she said.
970 "I will, but I'd like to take someone with me. It's a place for
971 romantics."
972 "You could always take me."
973 "But you have a husband."
974 "You could still take me."
975 Gulp.
976
977 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ V.
070=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 12/26/91 21:01 Msg:6990 Call:39184 Lines:22
978 One from the vaults...
979 *
980 /\
981 (oo) >< >< >< ><
982 \ (()) //o\ //o\ //o\ //o\
983 \\---------// \\_____/\/~~* \_____/\/~~* \_____/\/~~* \_____/\/~~*
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