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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/24/88 20:37  Msg:2360 Call:10004800  Lines:3
 20 Each morning puts a man on trial and each evening passes judgment.
 21 ********************************************************************
 22  
003=Usr:113 James Of Cassand  09/24/88 20:47  Msg:2361 Call:10004802  Lines:11
 23 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$+++++)))))
 24   
 25      I'm at the Top! Wow, it finally happened. Here I am standing above it all.
 26 The glories of word wrap lie somewere below. I guess I should get ready to sign
 27 off here as I am sure tere are many of you out there waiting for the chance to
 28 try to be at the top. Oh well, maybe next disk.
 29  
 30 James of Cassandra.
 31  
 32 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$+++++)))))
 33  
004=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/24/88 21:44  Msg:2362 Call:10004804  Lines:20
 34 -------=======-==-=========-------==-=======------==-=========-=====--======
 35 AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 36 I missed again!  Curses. @#%$, *@#, #%^**@!!!  There I feel better now. plea
 37 se forgive the graphic sugestion of language.  Number 2! Number 2! Number 2!
 38  
 39 If you could James of Cassandra, what time did you call.  I've been trying f
 40 or the top for about a year now.  I thought I had it this time.  Oh well 2 i
 41 s nice.  I mean if I came home from the Olympics with a silver medal I would
 42 hardly complain.
 43  
 44 What was going on last disk.  Let's see...Word Wrap debates seem most promin
 45 ent in my mind.  Hey take up space out there, the sooner this disk is filled
 46 the sooner were archived to eternity and I can get to the top again.
 47  
 48 Any one going to see D.J. Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince in concert?
 49  
 50  
 51 Lord (osientelafamorphic) Beaker \__/
 52 7''abernacky -------------------  oo 
 53 ---=-==-=-{=-======--------=-==========----------======-=====----------=====
005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/25/88 08:51  Msg:2363 Call:10004811  Lines:21
 54 &*&*&*&*'s
 55 Yes, Fill the disk! (Maybe this should be our battle cry this disk!) Hmm,
 56 perhaps I am using to may explanation points!
 57  
 58 So, It would seem that the wanderer was minding his own business when suddenly 
 59 he was knocked on his but by somebody coming up through the floor. Hmm.
 60  
 61 The wander looked at the creature for a moment and then raised hiimself from 
 62 the floor. "Yes, this is the Inn at the crossroads. You make entrances nearly
 63  
 64 as grand as John Eddison. Would you like to join me for dinner?"
 65  
 66 Hagbard, I do have the orb. It was a matter of the proper binding of the orb
 67 to my, hmm. Being I guess you would call it. I would be willing to go back
 68 and do that part of the story though if you wish. Fighting the destructive
 69 lords of chaos might be fun. Of course it would be hard to write this in a
 70 multi-author format.
 71  
 72 An Astral Dreamer.
 73 &*&*&*&*'s
 74  
006=Usr:214 The Mysterious F  09/25/88 10:35  Msg:2364 Call:10004813  Lines:6
 75 backwater()
 76 {
 77         for(;;)
 78                 stay_the_same();
 79 }
 80  
007=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     09/25/88 12:07  Msg:2365 Call:10004814  Lines:7
 81 As I got up this morning , I stepped on my hand.  Then I stepped on my other
 82 hand.  Then I stepped on my ear....... This is my daily routine to get things
 83 started.  Eventually I cut open my brain.  Eventually I can't think .......
 84 eventually I die - Mr. Eggheadgoofychicken! Thanks A-L-O-T!
 85  
 86 How do you spell word warp?Gimme a clue..just a small little clue? Pleeze
 87 I'll do you laundry for 3 weeks! What a bargin! Bye
008=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/25/88 13:35  Msg:2366 Call:10004816  Lines:19
 88 -----=-=========-=---------=--========-=-----========-------=-============--
 89 Fill the Disk! (Battle Cry)
 90  
 91 Slow slow slow slow Sunday...I love it!  Nothing, absolutly nothing in the w
 92 orld to do.  Erg, except homework.  You'd think that there would be some way
 93 around it.  Anybody seen Spell Binder?  Sort of unrealistic...but I liked th
 94 e plot.  Nobody tell anybody what happens, it would rune the whole movie.  W
 95 ell I've been rambling enough, I guess I'll go do my homework.  Hey, what ar
 96 e some good things to take pictures of...I've gotta shoot a role of film for
 97 photagraphy.
 98  
 99 Lord Beaker \__/  |
100              oo   |
101 The 8th Abernacky |
102  
103 -=-=======-=--{=======-------========------==-=======--------=-=============
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105                                                                             106
106                                                                              88
009=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/25/88 14:36  Msg:2367 Call:10004818  Lines:13
107 &*&*&*&*'s
108 Life in the sloooooowwwwwww lane. Today Is the last day of all of your past lif
109 e, tommorow is a new begining. Oh well, lets see.
110  
111 Hmm. I wonder if Kurfur is going to enter any more mesages? 
112  
113 Oh yes, Hagbard. Did you leave me a message on NAG? 
114  
115 An Astral Dreamer. (Fill the Disk.)
116  
117 &*&*&*&*'s
118  
119  
010=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL     09/25/88 14:59  Msg:2368 Call:10004819  Lines:8
120 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User you know who!#############################
121 I have a challange!
122     
123 To the user who posts the last line on disk b and the first line on
124 disk a  in the same round of disks, you will be the new leader of the
125 word wrap kingdom.
126   
127 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@##############################
011=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/25/88 19:03  Msg:2369 Call:10004827  Lines:17
128 -----=-==============---===-======---=======---=-========------=-======-====
129 Leader of the kingdom eh?  Sounds good, but we could go forever and ever wit
130 h out ever comeing up with a person who meets the chalenge.  What do we do u
131 ntil then.  Hey, whatsay we all get together this weekend and build a great
132 big stone Idol of me.  Then we can worship that until its found that I'm the
133 true leader of word wrap.
134  
135 Anyone see the 'PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES'.  Dead, dead, dead, dead.  I guess I'm
136 for the 'DUKE'!!  Though I must say I am neither Democrat nor Republican, I
137 decide on the persons actual statements and past record.  I must say...I thin
138 k Bush was made to look like a blithering idiot.  I hope quit desperatly that
139 he does not win.  Oh please, please, please don't let it happen.  Oh well.  L
140 ET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
141  
142 LB\__/
143    oo
144 -====--=-{=-=----=========----------=-=============--=---------------=-=====
012=Usr:529 Bob Madison       09/25/88 20:46  Msg:2370 Call:10004834  Lines:2
145 does anyone call the no-name bbs?
146 What happened to them?  One day they were there and then...
013=Usr:562 Blank Doe         09/25/88 21:11  Msg:2371 Call:10004835  Lines:5
147 In all honesty I didn't kno Bush could look any other way....
148  
149 NW0
150 WWIII
151 ^b
014=Usr:121 Hamfred Gammidge  09/25/88 21:19  Msg:2372 Call:10004836  Lines:8
152  
153 Hamfred again.
154  
155 Hmmmmmm. Morpheme. I've heard it before. Lemme seee...... (I can't think 
156 sober ok?). Oh yah, isn't it a grammar thing which can't be divided into
157 smallar parts and still have meaning? Such as "the" or 'ride'.
158  
159 Or perhaps even 'Word Wrap'? That answer it Kerfur?
015=Usr:113 James Of Cassand  09/25/88 22:21  Msg:2373 Call:10004837  Lines:15
160 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$+++++)))))
161  
162      Ahm, I called around nine I believe. Next time I'm in that position I'll 
163 Pass the houner on to somone else :-)
164  
165      Bush is a dork, That is in fact the nicest thing anyone could say about 
166 him. If he were a Democrat I would think he was a dork. I thought that Mondale
167 was a dork.
168  
169      Why is it that we seem to be stuck with voting for dorks or so-so's?
170  
171 James of Cassandra.
172 And now another wordwrap plea...
173 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$+++++)))))
174  
016=Usr:588 Wayne S.          09/25/88 22:53  Msg:2374 Call:10004840  Lines:5
175   'Tis a sad day on the face of this sorry continent when we choose our 
176   president by deciding on the lesser of two evils.
177                \ /
178               (oo)
179 -------------------------------Signer----------------------------------
017=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/26/88 02:15  Msg:2375 Call:10004844  Lines:8
180 &*&*&*&*'s
181 Indeed. I wanted Simon myself. I should have known that he didn't stand a 
182 chance...
183  
184 An Astral Dreamer.
185 &*&*&*&*;
186 's
187  
018=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     09/26/88 10:38  Msg:2376 Call:10004850  Lines:5
188 Dukakis Vs. Bush, who cares? Their both total idiots! Who wants a president who
189 believes that Pearl Harbor was bombed on Sept 7th.  No me! God that's pitiful
190 I learned that in what? Fourth grade? Geez.... Wacht Doch Endlich Auf! George
191 BUSH!
192  
019=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/26/88 14:36  Msg:2377 Call:10004852  Lines:10
193 -----====-=-------------=-========---------====-=----------=======-=========
194 Ya know...We don't HAVE to vote for either of them.  There are multitudes of
195 independents out there.  Of course if you vote for one of them instead of ag
196 ainst Bush, he COULD (god forbid) win...shudder...the eleection.  Oh I hope
197 not.  He is such a pompous rich loveing, poor drowning, ass.
198  
199 Lord
200   Beaker      \__/
201                oo
202 -==-=-==-=--{=======--------=-================----=-=-------=-====---=======
020=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/26/88 15:36  Msg:2378 Call:10004853  Lines:7
203 &*&*&*&*'s
204 I second that motion. Dukakis may not be brilliant, but the alternative...
205 I have really bad feelings about Bush.
206  
207 An Astral Dreamer.
208 &*&*&*&*'s
209  
021=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     09/26/88 18:37  Msg:2379 Call:10004857  Lines:6
210 Burp..... Brup........... Brip!.......Birp!........Borp........Brop.......Brap
211 Barp......Berp............Brep........Bcrp.........Brcp........Boop!......?
212  
213  
214 ----------------------->Who won the debate....... Daffy Duck in 88!<----------
215 LALALALALAL HAY!
022=Usr:214 The Mysterious F  09/26/88 20:13  Msg:2380 Call:10004861  Lines:7
216 ------------------------
217 Egads, it's scary.  I shudder to think what would happen if Dukakis
218 gets elected.  Although it wouldn't be as bad as Jackson, I don't think
219 I'd want to have to live through it.  (I really hope I don't have to
220 find out.)  Bush a wimp?  Not compared to Dukakis.  Damn liberals ... I
221 wish they'd all fall off the face of the earth once and for all.
222 ------------------------ Fred?
023=Usr:113 James Of Cassand  09/26/88 23:30  Msg:2381 Call:10004865  Lines:7
223 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$+++++)))))
224      Gee, Why is it that conservatives just can't seem to handle the existance
225 of Liberals? Must be thier guilty concsionce...
226  
227 James of Cassandra.
228 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$+++++)))))
229  
024=Usr:588 Wayne S.          09/27/88 00:05  Msg:2382 Call:10004866  Lines:5
230 =====================================================================
231 Scary to have Dukakis elected?  Yeah... but do you really want somebody
232 in there who sides with those wanting "Christian" control of Govern-
233 ment?
234 =============================Signer===================================
025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/27/88 01:21  Msg:2383 Call:10004868  Lines:9
235 &*&*&*&*'s
236 I know I don't. Religion and government should not be mixed. I will not be 
237 living in this country if they ever get control. It will be a quick trip to
238 Canada or England for me...
239  
240 An Astral Dreamer.
241 &*&*&*&*'s
242  
243  
026=Usr:588 Wayne S.          09/27/88 08:31  Msg:2384 Call:10004871  Lines:6
244 =========================================================================
245  
246 Agreed.  When you consider the possibilities of such a condition, communist
247 control doesn't look nearly so bad as it otherwise might.
248  
249 =================================Signer==================================
027=Usr:53 prince dragon     09/27/88 09:05  Msg:2385 Call:10004872  Lines:8
250 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-wuffa/prince dragon\.-=-.-=-.
251 it would be much more scary for all of us if Dukakis does not get in.
252 a "christian" government would kill the kine of things we write here.
253 or make us pay $10 an hour to use a modom look at the U.K.
254 it costs like 3p a min. to call a KM! no flat rate for the there.
255 the post controls all comm/ be it tv letters phone!.
256  
257 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.(need a cmds on term to do this :) .-=-.-=-.
028=Usr:598 ethan anubis      09/27/88 10:16  Msg:2386 Call:10004873  Lines:15
258 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
259 What we really need in this country is integration of church and state like
260 what they have in Great Britain and Israel. Unlike what were experiencing
261 now of the society being polarized. I would say if you don't want In GOD we
262 trust in our currency, then go someplace else where they don't even mention
263 the thing you think is unmentionable. Look at the background of the framers
264 of the supreme law of the land. I couldn't recall anybody of them being
265 atheist and/or agnostic. And look at the constitution, it doesn't specifical-
266 ly advocate any religious prohibition. It just states that CONGRESS (as oppose
267 to PROgress) shall not enact law respecting ...  As long as there is religion
268 in the heart of people, there would be national discipline. I dont care what
269 kind of religion we would have as long as it is not the influence of punk
270 rockers that would dominate. Look at the degeneration of our society has been
271 since GOD is slowly being phased out by organizaitions such as ACLU.
272 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""Joe Anb""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
029=Usr:599 rich sichel       09/27/88 11:22  Msg:2387 Call:10004874  Lines:13
273 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SSSSSSSSSSSSS
274 SIGNER:  What do you want "JEWISH" control?
275          I recall that Kitty (Mikhail's wife) is 'JAP'.
276  
277 ASTRAL DREAMER: ) .... IF THEY GET CONTROL ..... QUICK TRIP
278                 )      TO CANADA OR ENGLAND...
279  
280         Did you know that there's no separation of church and
281         state in England. The head of the Church of England and
282         the head of state is one and the same person namely:
283                               QE II.
284         And Canadians as a group is one of the subjects of QE 2.
285 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Rich SSSSSSS
030=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     09/27/88 13:30  Msg:2388 Call:10004878  Lines:17
286 Hey Joe Anb...... You shouldn't go putting down "punk rockers" as a lot of punk
287 happens to be highly policitally oriented & not to mention politically correct
288 Check out a fanzine called Maximum R'N'R they've got loads and loads of punk
289 politics.. SO the music may be noise but the people are political. Not all but
290 a majority of them! -----> Some idiot scum who wrote this!<--------------------
291 '
292  
293 Hey Rich, I hope that 'jap' comment you made is not racist! ! ! ! ! If it is
294 wake up......... Get above it! 
295  
296 Zoinks scooby how do we get out of this mess? Looks like we are going to have
297 to kill each other. I'm starving to death.  I could use a tasty dish of dog
298 meat.... Hey I'll give ya a scooby snack!! HUH?HUH?HUH?
299  
300  
301 UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
302 Each day we edge closer and closer to WWIII......... it will arive!
031=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/27/88 15:08  Msg:2389 Call:10004882  Lines:18
303 &*&*&*&*'s
304 My, arn't we negative? Canada is a subject of Great Britain in name on
305 they are entirly soveraign. In England you don't have to worry about fundies
306 staring in your window at night.
307  
308 WWIII? Try not to project your own depression onto the state of the world. 
309 Though it may be in sad shape, It is MUCH better off then it has been for
310 all of history. Why give up when the real begining is at hand?
311  
312 I think I recognize some of you from the Over Worked Dragon, Is this the case?
313 If so welcome.
314  
315 About not wanting "In God we trust" on the money. I would have no problem
316 with it if it said "In a God we trust."
317  
318 An Astral Dreamer.
319 &*&*&*&*'s
320  
032=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig     09/27/88 15:20  Msg:2390 Call:10004883  Lines:21
321 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | How does one 'win' a debate?????????????????????
322  
323 Does he win by figuratively decapitating his opponent, or what? In any case,
324 I think neither of em won, since they're both losers in my opinion.
325  
326 I think that for the '88 election we should have a write in vote. I can 
327 see the headlines now:
328  
329 "Jim's Uncle Bill win's the election with a total of 14 votes. His dog,
330 Pug, has been given the vice presidency."
331  
332 Anything has got to be better than what we've been offered. 
333  
334 Even Nixon. "Tanned, Ready, and Rested"
335  
336 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Money Talks, but so do Politicianssssssssss
337  
338 Oh, I almost forgot. Yes, Hamfred, that is the correct definition of
339 'Morpheme'. A word with a one track mind. (very good)
340  
341 KKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Bill and Opus, The beak and saliva tickettttttt
033=Usr:71 David Shult       09/27/88 16:48  Msg:2391 Call:10004884  Lines:51
342 696969696969
343              Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987"
344  
345                OLIVER NORTH'S SECRET PLAN TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW
346  
347           While caught up in exposing Fawn Hall's hairstyle, Ollie North's
348      heroic gap-toothed smile, and the soap opera ambience of the
349      Congressional Contragate hearings, most of America's media ignored the
350      chilling constitutional issue of Oliver North's secret plan to declare
351      martial law.
352           But Alfonso Chardy, of THE MIAMI HERALD, was not deluded by
353      North's charisma nor frightened by North's earlier warning to him not
354      to investigate the National Security Council's (NSC) connection to the
355      Nicaraguan resistance.
356           Unfortunately, Chardy's extraordinary disclosures about North
357      went unexplored and unreported by other major media.
358           On July 5, 1987, Chardy reported over the KNT News Wire that
359      Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North helped draft a plan in 1984 to impose
360      martial law in the United States in event of an emergency.
361           According to Chardy, the secret plan called for suspension of the
362      Constitution, turning control of the government over to the
363      little-known Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), appointment
364      of military commanders to run state and local governments, and the
365      declaration of martial law in the event of such a crisis as nuclear
366      war, violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition to
367      a U.S. military invasion abroad.
368           North helped draft the plan to impose martial law while serving
369      as the NSC's laiason to FEMA. Chardy reported that an administration
370      official said the contingency plan was written as part of an executive
371      order or legislative package that Reagan would sign and hold within
372      NSC until such time as a severe crisis arose. "It is not known whether
373      Reagan signed the plan," Chardy added.
374           The plan was extraordinary enough to even frighten then-Attorney
375      General William French Smith into protesting to Robert McFarlane,
376      North's NSC boss at the time, that FEMA was establishing itself as an
377      "emergency czar" and "exceeding its proper function as a coordinating
378      agency for emergency preparedness."
379           This secret plan to declare martial law in the event of internal
380      dissent or national opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad took
381      on an added dimension as citizens gathered to protest the nation's
382      intervention in Honduras in March, 1988.
383  
384           SOURCES:  KNT NEWS WIRE, 7/5/87, "North linked to plan for
385      martial law," by Alfonso Chardy, p A1, SAN RAFAEL (CA) INDEPENDENT
386      JOURNAL; THE NATION, 8/1/87, "Minority Report," by Christopher
387      Hitchens, p 80.
388    
389 696969696969696969
390  
391  
392  
034=Usr:588 Wayne S.          09/27/88 17:40  Msg:2392 Call:10004886  Lines:11
393  
394 ==============================================================================
395  
396 I don't much care what religion any politician is: Christian, Moslem, Agnostic,
397 or Pagan.  It scares me when Reagan says to the Moral Majority that if they
398 get a religious bill through Congress, he'll sign it.  With the majority of
399 Supreme Court justices being conservatives, and having several who oppose the
400 idea of separation of church and state, I see a potential of something as bad
401 politically in this country as The Bomb is physically.
402 ====================================Signer===================================
403  
035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/27/88 18:43  Msg:2393 Call:10004888  Lines:8
404 &*&*&*&*'s
405 I agree. One of the ironies of government seems to be that for the most part 
406 only the mentally unstable make it to the top. Most peaple just aren't that 
407 obsesive about these sorts of things.
408  
409 An Astral Dreamer.
410 &*&*&*&*'s
411  
036=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL     09/27/88 20:00  Msg:2394 Call:10004889  Lines:9
412 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@USER twoeightythree!#######################
413   I think this candidate thing is pretty stupid, right?
414  But why in the heck are any of us voting?  It will do no good!
415 there isn't one 'competent' candidate that 'has a chance.'  it 
416 is pretty ridiculous if you ask me...
417    
418 Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!
419 KILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERS
420 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Twofer Tuesday Night###################
037=Usr:214 The Mysterious F  09/27/88 20:47  Msg:2395 Call:10004892  Lines:12
421 --------------------------
422 Yeah, OK.  So George Bush isn't the ideal candidate.  But when I think
423 about Dukakis, I get a mental image of the Carter years.  And if THAT
424 isn't enough to make one a devout Republican, I don't know what is.
425  
426 As for religions, I don't think anything will ever happen that will 
427 violate the separation of church and state clause.  There are too many
428 people who would scream bloody murder.  And when it comes to morals,
429 it doesn't take religion to create them.  I happen to be one of the
430 most convinced atheists that I've ever met.  And I have pretty high
431 moral standards without having a "god" to scare them into me.
432 --------------------------- Fred?
038=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/27/88 21:06  Msg:2396 Call:10004893  Lines:34
433 ----=-=========-=----------==-======-=-========-=----------=-=======-----
434 oops...
435  
436 I agree, sort of.  I personaly need no god to force, scare, or threaten me
437 into maintaning a set of desent moral standards.  If you do...feel free to
438 believe in what you need, or want as the case may be.  But keep in mind that
439 I too, even without this belief, am a member of the United State of America.
440 Yet I am not saying our currency should say "There is no God to trust in!".
441 I only want the government to stay as neutral in the matter as possible.
442 Not holding one view point...or the other.  This is somehow the way I
443 envision the seperation of church and state.
444  
445 ...
446 Wow, I think I'm sorry I ever mentioned poluhtiks on this board.  Big 
447 mistake.  Hey people...wouldn't itt make more sense to decide wether you
448 like a candadate for there abilities and ideas, and then find out what party
449 they are from.  No one wants to vote for a Liberal or a Conservative.  So 
450 who's left?  Got me.
451  
452 ...
453 Hey I noticed most of us people here on the West Coast have been missing out
454 on something BIG.  It's called mischeff night.  It happens to be the night 
455 before Halloween (How perfect).  What you do is basicaly think up an 
456 ingeenious prank (Tyeing two garbage can lids, across the street from each
457 other, to each other.  Then watch when a car drives by. (This prank not 
458 recommended for those living near a freeway or owner of a brand new Porche))
459 to pull on people.  It seems this day is a regular happening on the East 
460 coast.  Just thought I'd fill you all in...
461  
462 Lord Beaker \__/
463 7''abernacky oo
464 -=-====-{=-=-----=-==-----=-==-==-=-=----=-=======----------=-===========---
465 oops!
466  
039=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/27/88 21:49  Msg:2397 Call:10004894  Lines:10
467 &*&*&*&*'s
468 The crack about Dukakis is not really a very good one. When I think of Bush I 
469 get a flashpresent to the Reagan years. Thinking of them is enough to make
470 anyone a confirmed Democrat. It sure as hell did me. I was actually leaning
471 towards Republicanism. Boy, was I wrong!
472  
473 An Astral Dreamer.
474 &*&*&*&*'s
475  
476  
040=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/28/88 01:00  Msg:2398 Call:10004902  Lines:5
477 ************************************************************************
478 Ahh, debatable debates... And so the wheel turns.
479 ****************************** CM **************************************
480  
481  
041=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/28/88 01:19  Msg:2399 Call:10004904  Lines:2
482 BT!
483  
042=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/28/88 04:15  Msg:2400 Call:10004907  Lines:66
484  
485 {}
486  
487    Disappointment.
488  
489    Liberal!  Conservative!  Democratic!  Republican!  Independent!
490 Libertarian!  Communist!  Democracy!  Socialist!
491  
492    What a bunch of... confused but nice people.
493  
494    There is NO answer to the political question.  Politics is a matter of
495 power, not of state.  Harumf!  Even the 'state' steals, and yet it
496 detains those who do the very same thing!  What a set of double-standards!
497 (And I thought I was bad...)
498  
499    I'm gonna say this ONE LAST TIME:
500  
501    There is NO form of 'polictical state' that can meet the demands of
502 any people.  The best form of control is SELF-CONTROL; as you mind your
503 own business, so does everyone else.  You don't need a "XR7000 Big Brother
504 Spy-Eye" over your shoulder to see what you're reading.  Basically,
505 politics and government are complex but serious POWER TRIPS.  Government
506 wasn't created to protect the people from themselves (as the state would
507 like to have you to believe) - it was ORIGINALLY created for some
508 TWIT (not unlike the one's we've had in the past) who just HAD TO HAVE
509 his/her STINK'N FINGERS ON EVERYTHING!  Someone said, 'gee, if I
510 terrorize the people, and then make them attack/defend/vex themselves
511 rather than me, I would be able to have control over them!'
512  
513    ANARCHY is not a solution
514    ANARCHISM could be a solution - there is a BIG difference in what the
515 words mean, reguardless of context!  Don't confuse them!
516  
517    The best religion is PERSONAL AND PRIVATE religion.  To say anything
518 else would be to discredit that religion!  I'll try and make this as
519 simple as possible; So, let's say you'll be saved/lifted up/absorbed
520 by the great nothing/reincarnated/recycled/stuck in h*ll/etc. etc. etc.
521 SO WHAT?!?  If you KNOW you're going to be 'saved', then why worry about
522 everyone else's religions?  After all, in THEIR eyes, they will be
523 'saved', and not YOU.  If you can't except that, then you are not
524 a member of a religion - you are a member of a CULT!  And that is what
525 a cult is - a following in a belief that revolves around building that
526 following!  I know some 'Christians' will jump on my case about
527 spreading their beliefs, but then again, my 'religion' says I
528 don't have to worry about that now, does it?  Same goes for EVERYONE-
529 especially ME!
530  
531    - and what that means is I am voiceing my OPINION, and you are in
532 no way obligated to agree, accept, or even attempt to understand what
533 I have said.  Opinions are great, and they are personally important to
534 me.  But the absolute 'word' from someone or something just doesn't cut
535 it.  Life isn't static; it has been and always will be DYNAMIC!
536  
537    So voice your opinions, but don't stick it down my throat!
538  
539    *** end of soapbox yelling ***
540  
541    Now, what happened to all of those Smurf Bars... hmm...
542  
543    Hagbard Celine
544  
545    - yes, that was me on NAG.  I drop in about every other night or
546 so, so leave a message!  Ask about the PDP (you'll have to guess ;-)
547 that I'm working on (hint: the last 'p' means Project)
548  
549 {}
043=Usr:539 Renee Holmes      09/28/88 06:31  Msg:2401 Call:10004909  Lines:10
550 *************************** 28 SEPT  ********************************
551 Wow a lot has happened since I was on last.....
552 Dear "soapbox yelling"  I have to agree with a LOT of what you have 
553 to say, if more people minded their own business.  Just like 
554 censorship, I know what my "own community standard" is, and when it
555 crosses that, I don't read it, buy it, or go to a movie and see it. 
556  
557  -Renee-
558  
559 ***********************************************************************
044=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     09/28/88 10:04  Msg:2402 Call:10004914  Lines:13
560 Anarchy in my opinion will never happen.  It wouldn't work.  Then there's the
561 stupid philosophy of Peace & Anarchy.  How can one have peace with Anarchy? No
562 way.  It's bad enough with a democracy trying to reach peace! I seriously doubt
563 that peace is possible either! Maybe in some parts of the world but never in
564 such places as Middle-eastern countries couldn't possibly reach peace. They've
565 been fighting for years.  It might be possible for Iran and Iraq to reach a
566 treaty but for how long? 
567 ----------------BLAH----------------A confused Brat----------------------------
568  
569 ZOINKS! UNLE SCOOBY WHERE'S FRED? !!!!!! I NEED A SCOOBY SNACK!!!!! THAT'S
570 RIGHT! SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
571  
572 What's blue & creamy? ----------------------------------->Smurf cum!
045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/28/88 12:06  Msg:2403 Call:10004916  Lines:18
573 &*&*&*&*'s
574 Smurfs's? Hmm, I wonder how they reproduce. Must be the stork or somthing. 
575  
576 Hagbard, I tend to agree with you. It is to bad that more peaple don't feel
577 this way. At the same time I would say that anarchy is nice, but would not
578 work at this time. (That is anarchy in it's purest sense, Not what most peaple
579 think of it as.) 
580  
581 I am leaning towards the democrats because of Reagan. I figure whom ever 
582 profeses to be on the opposing side should be given a chance. I don't hold
583 out much hope, But I have to vote for somebody.
584  
585 I'll drop you a note on NAG. Since I ussually call at around 2am I get on
586 about every day.
587  
588 An Astral eamer.
589 &*&*&*&*'s
590  
046=Usr:588 Wayne S.          09/28/88 13:48  Msg:2404 Call:10004921  Lines:16
591 ============================================================================
592  
593    LORD BEAKER:  I don't need any god to force, scare, coerce, or otherwise
594                  make me do something.  But I appreciate a God who will be a
595                  constant companion with me wherever I go.
596  
597       HAGBARD:  You think all religion should be personal and private--
598                 agreed.  If I found a gas station selling gas at $.25/gal.,
599                 it would be remiss of me not to tell you what I found.  How-
600                 ever, I draw the line at putting a gun to your head and
601                 forcing you to drive down and buy some.  Same with religion.
602                 I want to tell everyone I meet about what I've found, but
603                 the idea of force-feeding anything to anyone turns my 
604                 stomach. (Pun intended).
605  
606 =========================================Signer===========================
047=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/28/88 15:17  Msg:2405 Call:10004922  Lines:9
607 =-=--------=-===========-=----------=-==========-=--------========-=========
608 Signer, point well put and taken.  In both your message to Hgbrd and myself.  
609 You seem to see thiings quit clearly.
610  
611 Hgbrd, excelent preaching...I couldn't agree more.
612  
613 Lord Beaker \__/
614 7''abernacky oo
615 --=-=-=-=-=---{-=---------=-==========-=-------------=-==================---
048=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/28/88 17:23  Msg:2406 Call:10004932  Lines:15
616 &*&*&*&*'s
617 I agree to a large extent with your point's Signer. I would say however that
618 not everyone needs a constant companion. I will admit that I do not fall into
619 this catagory.
620  
621 BUT, If God is not thinking of me every minute that does no bother me either.
622 I work towards inner peace. The I assume God will not have to worry about me to
623 much.
624  
625 An Astral Dreamer.
626 P.S.
627 Love of God is fine, But you MUST love yourself as well!
628  
629 &*&*&*&*'s
630  
049=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL     09/28/88 19:31  Msg:2407 Call:10004933  Lines:20
631 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree#####################################
632 Hello, this is an EAGLE computer... 
633 hehehe...
634 Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!Word Wrap!
635 KGON welcomes the scorpions  Rocktober 10th.....  Can't Live! Can't Live 
636 withoutcha!
637 KILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERSKILLWAFERS
638  
639 KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!KGON ROCKS!
640                
641  
642 Def Leppard!  Def Leppard!   BE THERE.
643  
644  
645 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Wednesday!########################
646  
647  
648 When Passion Rules AGAIN!
649 Yeah Yeah...
650  
050=Usr:562 Blank Doe         09/28/88 20:38  Msg:2408 Call:10004935  Lines:13
651  
652 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>
653  
654 Why is anarchy associated with violance.  My understanding of anarchy has
655 always been peacfull, my definition has always been 'A society with no laws and
656 no government, as none are needed.  A society inwich all people are governed by
657 morality, not force.'  As you can see, I do believe in a peacfull, anarchistic 
658 society.
659 With my two cents, I'm blank doe.
660  
661 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3
662 anarchists unite!
663 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Nw0
051=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/28/88 20:54  Msg:2409 Call:10004936  Lines:7
664 -----=-===========-=----------=-=========-=-----------=-========-=--------=-
665 Anarchists unite?  Is that legal.  I mean are they still anarchists if they
666 unite?  Were talking technical definitions here.  Sorry....I'll go away now.
667  
668 LB\__/
669    oo
670 -=--{------===-=---=-====-==-=--====-=-=-----==--=--==-=-=---====-=------===
052=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     09/28/88 21:42  Msg:2410 Call:10004938  Lines:30
671 GOOD GOD SCOOOOOOOOOOBY Where's dafny & Fred or what ever the hell their names
672 are................ ZOINKS! ANARCHY? SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
673  
674 ----------------->And now for something completly different!<---------------
675  
676 @=Anarchy!
677 S=Scooby DOO!
678  
679 Senator hart humped a dumpling!
680 Hart you're a dope
681 Hart get a life
682 You should know better than to cheat on your wife
683  
684 Hart you're a slime
685 Hart you're a slob
686 And you screwed your self right outta job!
687 Senator hart humped a dumpling!-STIKKY!
688 Good God are those stupid German rockers the Scorpions coming to town? Why do
689 these Top 40 bands still exist! C'mon listen to something alternative!? How
690 bout it!
691  
692 "The world today seems absolutely crackers"
693 "with nuclear bombs to blow us all sky high"
694 "There's fools & idiots roaming the street"
695 "and that's why........................."
696 "I like chineese.....etc.................."
697  
698 Smurfs unite-Smurfs Unite! Smurf Anarchy rules! More Smurfpolitics. Oh not
699 to mention SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!I'm gone
700 Bo duke turns me on! Them dukes them dukes!
053=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/28/88 23:29  Msg:2411 Call:10004942  Lines:3
701 **********************************************************
702 A small blue Stork? Nah... must have been a Blue bird.
703 **********************************************************
054=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig     09/28/88 23:37  Msg:2412 Call:10004943  Lines:9
704 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Politicians in the woodsssssssssssss
705  
706 Yes, I think that in the up and coming election, with suck bland choices
707 that we're going to get a record voter turnout of maybe 8 people out of
708 a hundred.
709  
710 How about anachronism? We're talking extremely reactionary here.
711  
712 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Random choice for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
055=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/29/88 00:04  Msg:2413 Call:10004944  Lines:40
713  
714 {}
715  
716    To those who choose ANARCHY - anarchy is chaos.
717  
718    To those who choose ANARCHISM - anarchism is to live without government
719 by any means or form.  The only reason I brought up anarchism is that
720 it seems to be the only word that describes what I see;  still, it does not
721 come close at all.  I like the gas alegory - very good!  If people would
722 merely respect other people's religions, rather than try to convert them,
723 I think that Iran and Iraq would stop fighting for the first time in
724 EONS.  I myself am a self-procliamed agnostic - if you can prove to me
725 that a peticular religion is true, then I would consider joining. (maybe
726 I should say self-styled, instead...)
727  
728    But, even though I am agnostic, it does not mean that I can't
729 participate in a religious setting (unless that religion
730 refuses activities by 'outsiders').  If you are Christian, then I will
731 try to keep a Christian frame of mind to relate to those around me.  If
732 you are Shinto, then I will observe Shinto practices at a prayer temple.
733 You might say that ALL religions are true in my eyes - except the ones
734 that seem cult-like.
735  
736    Here's a brain teaser...does the 'state' REALLY EXIST?  See if
737 you can understand this one...
738  
739    I'm not voting.  Why should I?  I can persue my own form of
740 government without interfereing with those around me...
741  
742    * * *
743  
744    (puff)
745  
746     I hovered at the bar.
747  
748     'Barkeep, an ale.  Prepare several more... I expect visitors...'
749  
750      Hagbard Celine.
751  
752 {}
056=Usr:588 Wayne S.          09/29/88 07:53  Msg:2414 Call:10004949  Lines:12
753 =======================================================================
754  
755 Anarchism would seem the way to go on the surface.  The problem is, you
756 are counting on everyone to act "morally".  What is morally?  During
757 the Dark Ages, the Catholic Church decided what was moral.  Now, nobody
758 knows what is moral.  What society then does is make laws concerning
759 what is moral, then metes out punishment to those who don't conform.
760 But as people begin to conform more and more together, the ones who are
761 different stick out more and more, so laws are needed to bring those
762 into line... talk about a vicious circle.
763  
764 ====================================Signer=============================
057=Usr:598 ethan anubis      09/29/88 08:48  Msg:2415 Call:10004952  Lines:6
765 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
766 Incidentally Mqcsashussets Governor Dukakis in 1977 when I was living
767 in Boston issued a proclamation honoring two pre-war anarchist convicted
768 and executed (electrocuted) in 1937 for robbery and murder!  Now we have
769 a presidential candidate who loves anarshy!
770 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Joe Anb"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
058=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       09/29/88 14:25  Msg:2416 Call:10004960  Lines:6
771 ------=-=====-=---------=-======-=--------=-==========-=----------=-========
772 Um...Oh nuveb0mind!
773  
774 LB\__/
775    oo
776 =--=--{=---========-============-=---------==-===============-=--===========
059=Usr:96 Steve LaPlante    09/29/88 17:35  Msg:2417 Call:10004963  Lines:10
777  
778 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^N^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
779 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
780                              TRINE
781  
782 Power to the people.  Let there be disorder rampant?  As long as I can
783 grab a0auisk one at Coconuts.
784 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
785 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
786  
060=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/29/88 18:14  Msg:2418 Ca|l:10 04964  Lines:14
787 &*&*&*&*'s
788  
789 Well, Gee, Hmmmmmmmmm. (Whoops, Key stuck!)
790  
791 The wanderer sat at his table eating his meal and conversing with the strage 
792 fellow who had arrived only recently. Suddenly Hagbard appeared in dxe bom and
793 ordered drinks for all.
794  
795 "Hagbard, Long time no see! I hear you are contemplating a temporal adjustment.
796 Is this this true?"
797  
798 An Astral Dreamer.
799 &*&*&*&*'s
800  
061=Usr:100 Ben Davis         09/29/88 20:%0  Msg:2419 Call:10004969  Lines:10
801 c>D>C>D>>D>C>D>C>D>C>D>C>
802 Who said that government was a power trip?  It might BE for some people but 
803 thats not what it IS.  Government is a means which by people organize to 
804 accomplish a task that0gou|d otherwise be to monumental for only one. Freeways 
805 for example.  And why are people allways arguing politics and religeon in the 
806 same sentance?  They arn't supposed to by the same thing I thing.
807  
808 Fill the Disk!
809@Ca
810 Camp Director
062=Usr:214 The Mysterious F  09/29/88 21:29  Msg:2420 Call:10004970  Lines:56
811 -----------------------
812 Did somebody say Fred?  Here I am.  
813  
814 First, a joke.  How do Smurfs reproduce?  With bags over their heads.
815 Ok, sorby, it wasn't that funny.
816  
817 There are too many dishonest/immoral/whatever-you-want-to-call-it 
818 people in this world for anarchism to ever work.  Once you accept that,
819 government becomes a whole lot less annoying.
820  
821 Since I don't have anything better to do, I'll expound on Fred's personal
822 views of life, the universe, and pantyhose:
823  
824 I don't want, you, my mother, or anyone else making my moral decisions
825 for me, as long as what I choose to do doesn't hurt anyo~e e|ce.  That 
826 means that I think my pornography pile should be legal.  It means
827 abortion should be legal.  It doesn't mean drugs should be illegal, since
828 there's a major chance of a drug user harming someone else.  (I feel the
829 same way aboet alcohol, but that's already proven not to work.)
830  
831 I think womens liberation sucks little pickles, even though I believe in
832 equal rights for everone.  I do NOT believe in affirmative action and all
833 the other force-em-to-be-given-prefurential-treatment-type-bullshit.  It's
834 no better than discrimination.  Ideally, any decisions should be 100% 
835 race/gender/sexual-preference blind.  But I realize that will never happen,
836 so I only get pissed about it occasionally.
837  
838 I'm not a conservative, and I'm not a liberal.  My leanings are towards
839 conservatism and republicanism, however.  (I don't believe in all of the
840 democratic do-gooder social programs, or protectionist trade policies,
841 or santa claus.  Smetymes I don't even believe in my shift key.)  I 
842 believe heavily in the separation of church and state.  It pisses me off
843 to say, "one nation under god."  
844  
845 Speaking of god, I'm an atheist.  And I think that atheists are one of the
(46 most picked on minority groups in the country.  We get bombarded by 
847 religion at every turn.  I'm willing to listen (with an open mind) to you
848 tell me why you believe your religion is true.  I expect you to do the
849 same.  I want to see co}pabqtive religion classes taught in public
850 (high) schools.  But only in terms of "This is what some people believe.
851 It's not necessarily true."  I don't believe in censorship of any type.
852  
853 I think Jesse Jackson should be strung up by xis 7nads.  Of course, I
854 really don't, since it's only because of my personal differences with
855 his opinions.  But it's definitely an amusing idea nonetheless.
856  
857 I don't believe that anybody really gives a shit about anything I've
858 zest0caid.  Of course, I'm probably wrong.  I also don't believe that
859 I have the right to fill up the whole disk (although I don't worry
860 about it because the software won't let me.  Good job, Mikey.)
861  
862 I believe I'll go now.
863 ------=---------------- Fred?
864 Oops, I forgot pantyhose!  I don't like them.
865 I'm really going now.
866 ----------------------- Fred?
063=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/29/88 22:35  Msg:2421 Call:10004973  Lines:3
867 **************************************:***:****************************
868 Is anyone else starting to get as bored as me?
869 ***********************************************************************
064=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/29/88 23:11  Msg:2422 Call:10004976  Lines:33
870 &*&*&*&*'s
871 Me Bored? Never. I do think we need a new subject though. Politics is heavy. 
872 But it is necassary that we discuss it. Since we have, How about moving onto
873 lighter subjects? (For awhile anyway.)
874  
875 Hmm, WordWrap? Not new enough.
8'6 0
877 Fill the Disk? Hmm, an old Idea but a good one... I suppose this one will take 
878 care of itself.
879  
880 Oh well, I guess somebody else can come up with somthing.
881  
882 Ah yes, I almost forgot. Abortion is a definate gray area in yer definition 
883 o what is right or wrong. You are assuming that the unborn child is not a
884 pearson and therefore has no rights. I tend to believe that the unborn
885 child is a person and therefor has rights.
886  
887 I have no religios reason vor this. It just seems wrong to me to kill unborn
888 children.
889  
890 Now I did say it was a gray area. It also could be argued that a woman has a 
891 right to do with her body as she choses. Of course I think that trying
892 to avoid consequencus ov actions is bad in any case. (Meaning that pregnancy
893 doesn't just happen.)
894  
895 It really boils down to wether you believe the fetus to be a person. I do.
896 I have no choice but to take the stand I have taken. I am open to argument.
89'  
898 Gee, a topic. Things are getting a bit heavy around here.
899  
900 An Astral Dreamer.
901 &*&*&*&*'s
902  
065=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/29/88 23:36  Msg:2423 Call:10004977  Lines:69
903 {}
904  
905    To be technical, abortion is not for me to decide upon - it should
906 be left to those whom it affects.  I don't have a problem with people
907 for or against abortions; I prefer to be neutral about it.  What I
908 would like to see is less pressure on the Teen-Age community from Ade|ts
909 in obtaining birth control (that is, if it fits their belief system -
910 not everyone believes in birth control.  Personally, I do...)  If
911 contraceptives were made availible at this level, it would have the
912 opposite affect of that whicx evuryone is afraid of.  Taking birth
913 control away from the nation's youth WILL NOT STOP THEM FROM DOING
914 THINGS when the parents leave the house...they'll go ahead and do
915 it anyway.  If this is the case, and I know it to be so, then why
91& d Adults take great measures in removing birth control?  Are they
917 afraid that their 'poor little darlings' will learn abit more than
918 the birds and the bees?  If that's so, then we're still in the
919 sexual dark ages - and I've got news for them about the 4th grader
920 who comprehends what it is before they reach the Sex-Ed classes in
921 Jr High...makes me wonder how the Earth has manageto keep itself
922 together without falling on its face.
923  
924    * * *
925  
926    Wonderer gqs cytting nearby, greeting me.
927  
928    "Nope.  It's just the calm before the storm.  Besides, there
929 seems to be a problem in another multiverse on a small computer system
930 that I can't exactly place.  It seems as if it creates problems
9#1 in0this place.  Too bad, isn't it?"
932  
933    The barkeep returned, with some beers on a serveing (sp) (ack!)
934 platter.  To his annoyance, I levitated a beer to Wonderer, being
935 careful not to let the suds run over until it landed on the tarle.>.
936  
937    "Where are the others?" (grumble, grumble) "Will they return,
938 or will they be summoned?  I personally dislike summoning...say,
939 I know!   Maybe if I sent some beer to Kurfur, he would come of
940 his own free will.  Give me q moment to make a small portal" as
941 I strained to open a passage to Kurfur's home, and the sweat
942 started to pour.  Never had it been so hard to pry apart Beta Space...
943 as if something was still out there, trying to hold eternity in its
944 grip.0 I saw Kurfur, along with some others, and promptly put the
945 Stein in his hand when he raised it.  Although he was a little startled,
946 I'm sure he caught the message I had sent.  There was a merry gleam
947 in his eye as he read:
948  
949 0  [0COMPLEMENTS OF THE FRIENDLY GURU.  WANT MORE?  TRY THE INN...]
950  
951    Then I closed Beta Space, then the Eye, and returned to the
952 Inn's friendly surroundings.  The Barkeep didn't look to happy - 
953 he remembered the last time Kurfur sxowet.  Nearly went 'damn broke
954 trying to keep him satisfied...at least that's the vibes I got from
955 the poor, red-faced, unhappy barkeep.
956  
957    "Say, maybe we could make the Inn a purely material place- ya know,
958 bind it to Beta Spacu for easy travel & security.  It would be a
959 welcome place for the tired, hurt, hungry, and the lonely searching
960 for friendship.  Could it be done?"  I knew it would take great
961 effort to transport the place, maybe all of my strength, but it guld
962 be worth it to have a 'safe house' for those to come to when life
963 wouldn't allow them a 'time-out'.  (Sit and wait,) I thought.
964  
965  
966    The disk is for the honored to fill.  May Lord Beaker fill the
967 top space as he wished.0 I qm merely a young man observing life.
968  
969    Hagbard Celine
970  
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9'5   Camp Director: The reason you seem to see religion and politics 
976                  mentioned in the same breath is there is a concerted
977                  effort being put forth right now upon politicians
978                  to relax somu of dhe rigidness of separation of the
979                  two.  (Wow!  Did that make sense?)  There is being put
980                  into place a network of churches with committees who
981                  will be sending telegrams to politicians co~ceb~ing
982                  bills in Congress.  If a few hundred letters and tele-
983                  grams can make a Congressperson to change his/her vote,
984                  imagine 2,000-3,000 people all registering the same
985              0   pinion.  There may be a majority the other way, but
986                  that group is not so nearly well organized!
987  
988  
989       Fred?:  You are an atheist, but you will keep an open mind to any-
990               one who can prove theyb ruligion.  That's rather contradict-
991               ory as religion is an act of faith.  See, believing that the
992               universe fell together, and life just happened is like my
993               that if you put all the pieces of a Timex watch in a dryer
994               and let it tumble for a hundred million years, someday it 
995               would all fall together and keep perfect time.  It is much
996               easier to believe in Someone who created this place purposely
997 0             than for me to believe all this was accidental.  Both are
998               acts of faith -- noone was here when it started.
999 ================================Signer=====================================