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NUMBER OF LINES: 999 001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19 1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2$************************* INSTALLED: 29 DEC 87 *************************** 3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator 4$************************************************************************** 5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately 8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general 9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the 10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all 11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the 12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data 13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out 14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering 15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to 16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up. 17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18$************************************************************************** 19$ 002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 12/29/87 22:04 Msg:948 Call:6399 Lines:7 20 Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: If three things might happen, one of 21 them probably will. If it doesn't, then one of the other two might. But if 22 not even this one does, then it's all on the last one. In the event of this 23 last one not happening, which it might not, the experiment is best 24 abandoned. A judicious application of this principle will explain, among 25 other things, the rise of capitalism and why women take so long to get dressed. 26 *************************************************************************** 003=Usr:296 MATTHIAS BRUNNER 12/29/87 23:01 Msg:949 Call:6400 Lines:4 27 Well I haven't been on the system for a while so could someone bring me up to 28 date. Is the Inn still running strong. How about a debate anyone? Gary Hart or 29 foriegn affairs? Anything? 30 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzmatthias (a new name too)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 004=Usr:13 voyeur 12/30/87 01:06 Msg:950 Call:6405 Lines:6 31 ::::::::O O::::::::::12/30/87::::::::::::::::::::::::::01:30:58:::::::O O:::::: 32 Hmmm... Domestic affairs gave Gary Hart some real problems. I don't really 33 know if he'd do any better with foreign affairs. Maybe with Lee as his 34 advisor? I think I'll stick with Al "I'm in charge now" Haig. At least you 35 know where you stand with him. 36 :::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::: 005=Usr:23 Grann 12/30/87 11:30 Msg:951 Call:6409 Lines:1 37 ++++++++++++ Grannlurk. Winter term approaching rapidlllllyyyyyyyyyyy +++++++ 006=Usr:245 Doug King 12/30/87 12:37 Msg:952 Call:6411 Lines:3 38 39 EEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! Not Winter Term already! GGGGGGRRRRRR!!!!!! 40 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Bartender SLUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 007=Usr:262 Jody Knox 12/30/87 12:45 Msg:953 Call:6412 Lines:16 41 Hi. Another new person. (Me, I mean.) 42 Anybody here that I've seen on other boards and can fill me in on the way this 43 one works? I'm not entirely familiar with the total message board system, but 44 I've been reading old stuff, and it looks fun. 45 Any advice for the new girl? 46 |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| Jody |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| 47 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 48 Jody, what other boards are you on? 49 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 50 Leonard: Those "little things" are tanks and they are not (repeat NOT) after 51 Justin. They're after VanderVecken. He knows and is taking appropriate 52 action. I think I saw his feet sticking out from under his bed..... 53 (Sorry, RT) 54 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRITTANIA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 55 By the way SLUG, how DARE you steal my boarders?? 56 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 008=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 12/30/87 13:09 Msg:954 Call:6413 Lines:16 57 ............................................................................... 58 Geeez! What an original boarder, eh? I'm new here, as you can guess, but I 59 know Slug from Hodini's, and other boards, but I can't say much more for the 60 rest of you people.... Does anyone want to fill me in on what's goin' on? 61 How 'bout you Slug? Why don't ya fix me up with a Burbon <sp?> and seven.... 62 Mmmmmmm... My favorite! Oh, yeah... I forgot to tell you my name is Kevin, But 63 You can just call me Kev, or Kev C., or Who, Which is very popular at JD's, 64 cause I said this..."Who knows, who cares, and who gives a shit?", And then 65 everybody started cracking jokes, but oh well.... Does anyone here frequent 66 3cpu? It's a great board... 67 ............................................................................... 68 69 70 JEeesh... I screwed up on that one.. 71 72 009=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 12/30/87 16:10 Msg:955 Call:6415 Lines:10 73 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 74 Well I'm not sure THAT exists, but oh well. Who can say for sure? Thats 75 proably why we don't know, I don't anyway. Maybe it was all lost in the 76 transition phase. I hope not! 77 78 Lord Beaker 79 80 Oh, I could use a little help controling the weather. My efforts don't seem 81 to be accomplishing a whole lot. 82 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 010=Usr:290 Robert Tice 12/30/87 18:13 Msg:956 Call:6417 Lines:6 83 Hay, anyone out there know much about chemistry? If so, what makes black spots 84 in a fiberglass swimming pool? And I'm not talking about plants, etc. but chem 85 chemical reactions, such as might, MIGHT, occur with the chlorine in the pool 86 told that this reaction will produce the black spots on the liner surface, but 87 I find that hard to understand. It just shouldn't do it at the temperatures 88 involved. Anyone have any feelings on this subject? 011=Usr:299 Agitar 12/30/87 19:50 Msg:957 Call:6419 Lines:8 89 &*(&*(&*(&*(&*(&*(&*(&*(&*(&*(&*(&*()*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*&)*& 90 Hello? I'm lost. Has anybody seen me anywhere? Maybe in a pool, swirling? 91 92 What is this place, anyway? Is this the only place in this place? Is there 93 any other place where I can place my questions? Help?!? 94 95 The Agitar 96 ^$%^%$^%$^%$^$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^%$^ 012=Usr:23 Grann 12/30/87 21:54 Msg:958 Call:6422 Lines:9 97 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 98 Kev: I frequent 3cpu. Not as Milchar or Grann, though... just an 99 abbreviation of my mundane name. 100 ++++++ 101 Hum, it would appear that Grann is getting restless...thee old travelin' 102 itch he caught from Milch must be acting up again, but he's been too busy 103 with local affairs to go jaunting out to other dimensions and lines. Maybe 104 a quick outing as a lesson for his apprentice? Hum. 105 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ M&G +++++ 871230222530 +++++++++++ 013=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 12/30/87 22:12 Msg:959 Call:6423 Lines:11 106 .............................................................................. 107 Who are you? You told me you frequent there, but who are you.. oh, yeah, the 108 author function.. 109 .............................................................................. 110 111 112 ............................................................................ 113 IT only tells me who wrote this, Imight add small, program. 114 ............................................................................ 115 116 014=Usr:272 Talos 12/30/87 22:55 Msg:960 Call:6424 Lines:13 117 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 118 / \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \ 119 120 AAAHHHHHH!!!!! Back from a little R&R! Oh what fun it to sleep 14 hours a daaay 121 yeah! There's something about vacations that make ya wanna sleep, so I figure 122 why fight it? Everybody enjoy the snow? I got a little icy on the roads though, 123 <Geez, I guess we used to much silver Nitrate, eh Metallion?>. Off to find 124 Fun, exitement and really wild things, 125 126 Talos 127 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 128 / \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \ 129 015=Usr:245 Doug King 12/31/87 00:47 Msg:961 Call:6429 Lines:10 130 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 131 Britania this is MY boarder! YOU stole it from me! As for black spot in hot 132 tubs I think it is a reaction from the heat and chlorine. It happened to my 133 partents tub and the "Hot Tub Guy" said it happens because we use Chorline that 134 is solid little chunks. He said we should switch to liquid chlorine instead. 135 Boring huh? I was hoping it was Commie Mutant Bacteria from Space or something! 136 Well drinks are on me! Or call me a Houdin's Place 639-6634 and O 137 (OOOPS!) I'll give you MANY drinks at the Bar! Call now! 138 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Bartender SLUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 016=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 12/31/87 12:10 Msg:962 Call:6435 Lines:1 140 EL MARKO WAS HERE AND GONE IN A NANOSECOND 017=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 12/31/87 12:42 Msg:963 Call:6437 Lines:8 141 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 142 143 Party with Marcos!! He and his sgnfcnt other are throw'en a big one for the 144 last day in '87. Be there. 145 146 LB\__/ 147 oo 148 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 018=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 12/31/87 14:54 Msg:964 Call:6440 Lines:12 149 ............................................................................... 150 HEY SLUG! I'm the guy who ordered A pitcher of matini's for tonight! How bout 151 It? This is a bit hard to do with a alkahal blood content of 50%.. Ugggggggg 152 Thisah is in teresting............ I always thought that I was supposd to get 153 intoxicted on thenight but i couldnt wait Ohh...i am going to have a 154 headake 155 ............................................................................... 156 157 158 I for go t to tell you that i draynk that last bottle of 20 / 20 rasbery 159 160 019=Usr:245 Doug King 12/31/87 18:49 Msg:965 Call:6452 Lines:4 161 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 162 Hey Dude I forgot about the martini's! Here's the pitcher now though. Drink up 163 and maybe you should share a little with the rest of us? Please Please? 164 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Bartender SLUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 020=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 12/31/87 19:32 Msg:966 Call:6453 Lines:4 165 ** 166 MUSE?? 167 ** 168 021=Usr:13 voyeur 12/31/87 23:37 Msg:967 Call:6456 Lines:7 169 :::::::O O:::::01/01/88:::::::::::::::::::::::00:04:16::::::::::::O O:::::::::: 170 Despite what the half-hour-slow TIme function says, I 171 Made It To The Top 172 of the New Year. With these 999 line disks, it's hard to hit the top of one 173 of them, especially since they fill so slow. What we need are some of those 174 wordy NET people. Maybe some 1:1.5 L5 code. Or not. 175 ::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::: 022=Usr:252 dave brunker 12/31/87 23:48 Msg:968 Call:6457 Lines:7 176 0000000000000000000 12:12am 000000000000000000 1/1/1988 00000000000000000000000 177 AH ahahahahahahahahahaha 178 AT THE TOP OF 1988!! FIRST TO CALL! FIRST TO CALL! 179 Kodachrome 8) 180 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 181 P.S. Happy New Year!! 8) 182 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 023=Usr:21 Fable Master 01/01/87 05:10 Msg:969 Call:6458 Lines:1 183 FMFMFMFM Well, it's now 5:36 in the morning on 88/01/01. FMFMFMFM 024=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 01/01/87 15:15 Msg:970 Call:6465 Lines:10 184 -=-=-=-=-=-=- 185 Happy New Year!! 186 187 We Love you '88! 188 189 Later days '87! 190 191 G0d Beaker \__/ 192 oo 193 -=-=-=-=-=-=- 025=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 01/01/87 19:29 Msg:971 Call:6473 Lines:28 194 .... HEy, Slug... I got the pitcher at Hodini's, but you dudes can have this 195 one.. Kodachrome, you called almost every board last night, didncha? I've 196 seen your messages on 3cpu, Hodini's, etc... 197 ....................................................>>Who................ 198 199 200 HI I'M NEW HERE! THIS BOARD LOOKS DUMB! Just Kiddin. 201 / 202@ 203@. 204@. 205@. 206@. 207@. 208@. 209@.. 210@. 211@. 212@. 213@. 214@.. 215@.. 216@.. 217@.. 218@.. 219@.. 220@Kiss that 999 lines bye! 221@ 026=Usr:23 Grann 01/01/87 22:25 Msg:972 Call:6481 Lines:5 222@CommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentComment 223@Interesting stuff, the above... Was there lots more .. lines originally? 224@Oh, Happy New Year! Before you know it BWMS II will be celebrating its 225@first birthday. 226@CommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentCommentComment 027=Usr:272 Talos 01/02/87 00:17 Msg:973 Call:6483 Lines:33 227 228 229 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 230 231 Ah, a New Year's Day and a BRIGHT sunny morning to start it. Those of us who 232 started the day with a wonderful 50 psi hangover in our brains (at about 3:30pm 233 or so in the evening) probably didn't appreciate as much but WTF. However, 234 there is a solution... 235 236 Dr. Seltzer's Hangover Helper! 237 For relief 238 of headache, fatigue 239 heartburn, itching teeth 240 burning eyes and generalized 241 aches & pains 242 associated with a hangover. 243 244 Gneral Contants: 245 Calcium carbonite 840 mg. 246 Thiamine 250 mg. 247 Aspirin 450 mg. 248 Acetaminophen 288 mg. 249 Caffeine 64 mg. 250 251 This should help in those wonderous situations when you cant stand at a 45 252 degree without getting air sick. Otherwise grap a Sazerac Cocktail, (Or a 253 picher full in more extreme cases,) and try to relax. 254 255 Happy New Year to one and all 256 257 Talos 258 259 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 028=Usr:29 The Bard 01/02/87 00:59 Msg:974 Call:6485 Lines:6 260 010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 261 Now that we have something approaching a hardware standard, L5 may be 262 superceded by the likes of crypt and msgs may be sent via uucp or other 263 arcane techniques. 264 ps to all agents: you *do* all have rcyrpt from 3.20.03 don't you? 265 010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 029=Usr:304 DOMINIQUE ROCHE 01/02/87 14:21 Msg:975 Call:6493 Lines:2 266 EN 267 Hello, please welcome a new user. Hope there's room for one more! Say hi to me 030=Usr:23 Grann 01/02/87 21:04 Msg:976 Call:6506 Lines:10 268 0606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060600606060606060606060606 269 Note to 01: L5 is only slightly less secure than crypt. Note Crypt 270 Breaker's Workbench for one. 271 Rcrypt? What's that? I'd use confide and then run it through btoa to 272 make it suitable for mailing. 273 On second thought, if messages were passed to/from UN*X systems only, 274 then cat file | compress | crypt | btoa | mail is highly secure. Once the 275 file is compressed crypt produces much tougher to break encryption. 276 On the other end, cat ciphertext | atob | crypt | uncompress > plaintext. 277 0606060606060606060606060606 Net 06 06060606060606060606060606060606060606 031=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 01/02/87 21:17 Msg:977 Call:6507 Lines:6 278 .................................... 279 I'M GETTING WEIRD CHARECTERS HERE. ...................IT'S DOUBLE! 280 ARGGGG!!! IT'S ALITTLE LATE FOR THE HANGOVER MIXTURE, BUT NOW ALL MY FRIE 281 CALL ME RALPH! 282 283 032=Usr:272 Talos 01/02/87 21:44 Msg:978 Call:6508 Lines:2 284 So, tell me Ralph, do you sell Buicks? 285 033=Usr:210 BRITTANIA SCARBO 01/03/87 14:07 Msg:979 Call:6519 Lines:6 286 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRITTANIA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 287 288 My boarder, my boarder, my boarder, my boarder, my boarder, my boarder, MINE!!! 289 290 Yours is backward, anyway. Nyahhh! 291 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 034=Usr:290 Robert Tice 01/03/87 17:41 Msg:980 Call:6526 Lines:5 292 =============================================================================== 293 TO SLUG: 294 295 What guy told you it was because of using hard chlorine? Can you give the 296 company or individuals name or telephone number or any of that type data? I 035=Usr:245 Doug King 01/03/87 18:01 Msg:981 Call:6527 Lines:11 297 298 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 299 Hey dude I'll see if I can find out who my Dad talked to about the spots. I 300 should warn you now that the guy he talked to is in Calif. Thats were his hot 301 tub is. But I think it also happened to my mom's hot also and that's in Oregon 302 but she didn't seem to care much about the spots so she didn't talk to anyone. 303 Have you asked anyone around this area? I have some friends that run Cal Spa's 304 in Clackamas, they might know. TO BRITTANIA: Nyahhh!!! to you too! It is YOUR 305 boarder that is backward, or may it's just you! HA HA HA! Anyway it was MY 306 boarder FIRST! So Nyahhh! 307 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Bartender SLUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 036=Usr:307 Dan Gray 01/04/87 11:42 Msg:982 Call:6547 Lines:7 308 ................. 309 New user here. I see a couple of BBS systems mentioned here, and am interested 310 especially in 3cpu. Would anyone be willing to leave the #'s here? 311 Leave a message to 'Astro' 312 Also is anyone out there interested in computerizing telescopes? Maybe we could 313 compare notes? 314 .................. 037=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 01/04/87 17:10 Msg:983 Call:6555 Lines:5 315 070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707 316 Ahhh... It is nice to stretch one's limbs again, if only for a second. The 317 phone lines from Las Vegas are remarkably clear of noise. The miracle of 318 living in a technological world, oui? 319 070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707 038=Usr:245 Doug King 01/04/87 17:46 Msg:984 Call:6556 Lines:4 320 321 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 322 Why would anyone want to call Las Vegas? Because they have no Burgervilles?Oui? 323 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Bartender SLUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 039=Usr:290 Robert Tice 01/04/87 18:51 Msg:985 Call:6558 Lines:1 324 I keep hearing about 3CPU. What type board is it, and what's it's number, and 040=Usr:245 Doug King 01/05/87 12:42 Msg:986 Call:6575 Lines:9 325 326 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 327 3cpu's phone number is 246-xxxx. This board is a little different than the 328 average BBS. It is set up with different rooms and you can travel through each 329 room. Every room is a different topic like "Programing" or "Downhill Skiing" 330 but there are alot more than that! I heard they can have a max of 64 rooms but 331 I could be wrong! I just started a room thier called "THE BAR" were the 332 wiery traveler can stop and have a drink. 333 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Bartender SLUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 041=Usr:311 Jane Urry 01/05/87 21:34 Msg:987 Call:6590 Lines:5 334 I did it! I'm finally on! Byron, thanx. 335 Be careful of feminist motorcylists -they don't care enough about maintenance. 336 Triumph 337 BYe/OFF 338 help 045=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 01/06/87 02:18 Msg:991 Call:6601 Lines:3 342 I don't know about you, but the last thing I would offer a "wiery" traveler is 343 a drink. I mean really now, you have no idea what a combination of "wieriness" 344 and alcohol might produce. Shudder. 046=Usr:21 Fable Master 01/06/87 13:45 Msg:992 Call:6606 Lines:7 345 FMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFM 346 . 347 Greetings to the House of Midgard from: 348 . 349 Fable Master 350 . 351 FMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFM 047=Usr:312 Lisa Gronke 01/06/87 17:27 Msg:993 Call:6609 Lines:16 352 ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ 353 ^ BBS-FEST ^ 354 ^ Sponsored by Portland Computer Society ^ 355 ^ Thursday, January 14, 1988 ^ 356 ^ PPS Child Service Center (old Washington HS) ^ 357 ^ ^ 358 ^ 7:30 PM Room C-121 ^ 359 ^ ^ 360 ^ All BBS Sysops and BBS users are invited to attend. ^ 361 ^ ^ 362 ^ Meet the faces behind the fingers that type to you. ^ 363 ^ Panel disucssion focusing on multi-user and networked BBS. ^ 364 ^ Program moderated by Lisa Gronke. ^ 365 ^ ^ 366 ^ Mark your calendar now! ^ 367 ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ 048=Usr:29 The Bard 01/06/87 22:59 Msg:994 Call:6621 Lines:7 368 010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 369 btoa & atob? There are people that actually *use* those? I thought everyone 370 used uuencode and uudecode? 371 As for rcrypt, check your disks... either filed under 4000 or 3.20.03 372 (hint,hint) 373 Actually, I bet uu(en/de)code would puzzle most people. (yoohoo, Robin!) 374 010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 049=Usr:210 BRITTANIA SCARBO 01/08/87 00:39 Msg:995 Call:6645 Lines:9 375 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brittania <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 376 377@ 378 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brittania <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 379 380 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brittania <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 381 382 (Get the picture, Slug?) 383 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 050=Usr:245 Doug King 01/08/87 16:59 Msg:999 Call:6673 Lines:4 384 385 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 386 Well, Nyahhh to you, Brittania! It's MY boarder! Your momma wears combat boots! 387 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 051=Usr:23 Grann 01/08/87 19:59 Msg:1000 Call:6680 Lines:18 388 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 389 "Your momma wears combat boots?" Nice rebuttal, that. It reminds me of a 390 time in London when I witnessed the Fiftieth Annual Professional Debate 391 Tourney. The winning arguement had the same distinct elegance that your 392 arguement simply oozes; it was "Oh, yeah? Well, you're just stupid. Pinhead." 393 This was by the visiting American team of Dewey, Cheetum, and Howe, the 394 U.S. National Debate champions. 395 That afternoon I returned to the old Inn and witnessed a similiar debate 396 which rapidly escalated to a form of arguement called a "boarder war". As I 397 recall it solved nothing, hurt some feelings, and wasted a lot of disk space. 398 Generally two things happen when more than one person claims a boarder: 1) 399 the person who used it first has rights to it, and the second finds another 400 boarder to replace his/her own. 2) Neither party cares, in which case they 401 both continue using it but mark it in a way that still identifies it as 402 their own. 403 These are not laws, but merely suggestions that have kept peace in the 404 past, perhaps they still apply? 405 +++++++++++++++++++ An Old-Timer +++++++++++++++++++++ 870108204118 +++++++ 052=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 01/09/88 20:45 Msg:1001 Call:6730 Lines:16 406 *********************************************************************** 408 409 Interesting.... 410 Those of you who have been keeping track of the BWII system 411 date and time probably have noticed that it has not been correct 412 for some time. I've been having trouble with it. I couldn't set 413 the clock. Everytime I would try the system would blow up. I don't 414 know why. Anyway, I tryed looking at it with debug, but debug has 415 some problems with some of the code and I couldn't get very far. 416 Seems that debug doesn't know how to deal with a direct to memory 417 push/pop from the stack. Anyway, out of shear frustration I decided 418 to try replacing the 8088. The one in there was a NEC 8088. The one 419 I put in its place was an Intel part. Guess what? Now everything 420 works fine. 421 **************************** CM *********************************** 053=Usr:245 Doug King 01/10/88 01:56 Msg:1003 Call:6745 Lines:8 422 423 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 424 Hey Cistop Mikey, you're gonna have problems with that Intel part because I've 425 put a curse on the company. Intel and I had a disagreement which cause me to 426 fight dirty. They desirve it! A good quote I heard from Steven Wright which has 427 nothing to do with Intel or their parts: "There is a fine line between fishing 428 and just standing on the bank like an idiot." 429 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 054=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 01/10/88 02:12 Msg:1004 Call:6746 Lines:4 430 So, exactly what is your idea of fighting dirty? Remember a battle of wits 431 with an unarmed person isn't a fair fight. And hey, would you mind getting 432 all your cars outta my driveway? 433 ----------------------------------letni----------------------------------- 055=Usr:245 Doug King 01/10/88 14:45 Msg:1005 Call:6761 Lines:9 434 435 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 436 Hey Letni (Intel spelled backwards) you're not paying attention! I said I put a 437 curse on the company, so thats fighting dirty! They will have so many problems 438 from this curse that they will soon go out of business! Their stock has already 439 gone WAY down since I put the curse on them two months ago! And my car is not i 440 in your driveway! But that Tri-Met bus is! Oh and Intel is an unarmed person 441 when it comes to wit! What a bunch of dumb bunnies! 442 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 056=Usr:7 Leonard Erickson 01/10/88 20:48 Msg:1006 Call:6770 Lines:5 443 Hey! Wait just doggone minute here! One of *my* company's major customers is 444 Intel. If they go out of business it'll cause *us* a lot of trouble. 445 Don't curse the company, just curse the idiots responsible for the problem. 446 (If the problem is segmented architecture, don't curs, just switch to Motorola) 447 __________________________________Leonard______________________________________ 057=Usr:117 jason themnax 01/12/88 09:49 Msg:1007 Call:6813 Lines:15 448 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* themnax of lananara *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* 449 stumbling around beyond the sadrat'ul muntaha... 450 451 slowly the inn faided into focus. What's all this racket? 452 *=*=*=*=*=* 453 454 story continues... 455 456 Darktorn would not have considered himself an object of fear, except 457 perhaps to the roots, nuts, berries, squrels and assorted critters his people 458 subsisted on. He'd heard of others though; like the flyers of grey mountain. 459 For such among the elendar unwilling to inovate yet discontent with thair 460 resources the carrivans of the rainbow folk were easy prey. 461 Sometimes captives could be ransomed or sold as slaves to other tribes. 462 *=*=*=*=* 058=Usr:117 jason themnax 01/12/88 10:43 Msg:1008 Call:6814 Lines:44 463 sometimes goods could be sold or bartered or put to some use. it was even 464 rumered that the secrets of the motion box had been devined. more likely the 465 boxes themselves put to other ends. 466 467 *=*=*=* 468 469 The halls of stately giants, green furred with life, had become to Lojos a 470 static colaage as the caravan rolled ever onward. The approaching clearing was 471 a welcome chaange of sceen. 472 There would be no stopping here though the bard realized as he chewed 473 thoughtfully on a joint of roast beast. 474 The others, all save the cook were sleeping so as to be alert when there 475 turn came to releave the helm. 476 "looks like we've got trouble" Bivul said to him as he reached for the 477 signal chord that would alert the cook and awaiken the others. 478 They approached the meadow from a slight rise. A barrior, looking for all 479 the world like a solid stone wall obstructed not only the road but appeared to 480 have been built accross the entire meadow. The slight defferance in elevaation 481 hd concealed it until they reached the point of actual ddecent. 482 Fortunatly thair pace had been unhurried and they had seen the obstruction 483 in time. They had plenty of room to come to a 'safe' stop. But then what? 484 One of the dissadvantages of the multi-wagon carrivan in a tactical 485 situation was that it could not be readily turned about in the width of any 486 reasonable roadway. The best chance would be to pull the pin connecting the 487 trailers then turn the lead wagon around and get the hell out of there, 488 abondoning the rest of the train to wwhat ever fate awaited it. 489 This still left one ore two minor difficulties. Someone would have to 490 physicaly lean out the back of the powered wagon, an exposed and vulnerable 491 possition. 492 That was the drill every merchanter carrivan that had made it back from an 493 encounter alive had rehersed to a fine edge. 494 Derath who was both cook and one of the alternate drivers, as soon as 495 speed staarted slackening simultanios with the bell chord having been pulled, 496 knew what was required. To hesitate while the others roused would be to throw 497 away all. 498 Leaning out to pull that pin, he was the first to be lost. Not, however, 499 before spending his lastt to finnish the job. 500 As the carrivan emerged from the trees, so did thair attackers. 501 Small men they were, wearing little more then fantastic spiral patterns of 502 purple die. They rode great death hounds and rained forth a storm of arrows. 503 Most twanged harmlessly into the van's wooden sides. Most, one had found Derat 504 Bivul leaned tword thair enimies around one side of the unit. Lojos the 505 506 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* 059=Usr:262 Jody Knox 01/13/88 19:19 Msg:1009 Call:6848 Lines:7 507 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRITTANIA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 508 509 Yo, Slug! My momma does NOT wear combat boots! *I* do! 510 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 511 |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| 512 Nobody likes me................ Nobody even knows I exist.................... 513 |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| Jody |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- 060=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 01/13/88 20:58 Msg:1010 Call:6852 Lines:7 514 Jody: Of course you exist, your name appears right ^ there, that 515 means that you exist doesn't it? And if I see your name, then I 516 know that you exist. If you did not make yourself visible then 517 I wouldn't know that you existed. But do I exist? Yes, I must, 518 after all I am writing this. 519 ########################## INK ################################ 520 061=Usr:245 Doug King 01/13/88 21:33 Msg:1011 Call:6853 Lines:3 521 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 522 You said it, I didn't. But for some reason I'm really not suprised, Brittania. 523 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 062=Usr:23 Grann 01/13/88 22:58 Msg:1012 Call:6856 Lines:14 524 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 525 Just because there is an order to the phosphors that flow upon my 526 CRT that make it seem as if you exist, INK, that is not proof. It 527 is proof that the phosphors are ordered. 528 Jody- it is hard to know what to say when someone says, "Nobody likes 529 me." I believe no one here HATES you, so if you are correct and my 530 belief is correct than the only possibility left is that no one has 531 an opinion about you, or is neutral. What you say here is our only 532 means of judging what kind of person you are until a day comes in which 533 we might see you in the flesh, as a whole being. Being liked and 534 admired, at least on Backwater, is based only on whether what you say 535 is liked and admired. 536 So- say something. 537 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ M&G +++++ 13 Jan 88 ++++++++++++++++++ 063=Usr:272 Talos 01/14/88 01:09 Msg:1013 Call:6858 Lines:9 538 539 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 540 Jody: 541 Who are you? I haven't seen you here before, so unless you do something to 542 change my opinion, I like you. 543 544 Talos 545 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 546 064=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 01/14/88 17:52 Msg:1014 Call:6870 Lines:4 547 What a positive attitude, Talos! How disgusting. In my most cynical 548 fashion, I'll make statement. Until you say something, Jody, I DON'T 549 like you. So there! 550 -------------------------- Fred -------------- ... 065=Usr:21 Fable Master 01/14/88 18:23 Msg:1015 Call:6871 Lines:14 551 FMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFM 552 . 553 Jody: Like Talos, and unlike Fred, I like you. 554 . 555 Fred: Starting with a negative assumption is a losing proposition. 556 . 557 The House of Midgard: What's with you people? Say *SOMETHING*! 558 . 559 The Muse: How are you and Helix getting along these days? Gonna 560 come and see me sometime? 561 . 562 Fable Master 563 . 564 FMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFM 066=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 01/14/88 21:11 Msg:1016 Call:6876 Lines:16 565 --==---===----====-----=====------======-------=======--------======== 566 What if none of you exist (Jody, Talos, Fred, Fable Master, ect.) and its all 567 an alien plot to make me believe that you are there! Maybe for some strange 568 psycho-analisys. HOLD IT! What if I'm some strange alien construct designed 569 to think it exists, only to fool other non-existing constructs into thinking 570 other things don't exist also! What if these aliens don't exist either! 571 572 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! 573 574 Send help! We don't exist! 575 Or do we? 576 Lord G0d (anti/pro existence) Beaker \__/ 577 oo 578 Maybe were random occurances?!? 579 ========--------=======-------======------=====-----====----===---==-- 580 067=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 01/14/88 22:56 Msg:1017 Call:6882 Lines:7 581 ###################################################################### 582 Actually, none of you exist, you're all figments of my imagination. 583 I created you all for my own entertainment. If I ever wake up you 584 will all disappear. So hope and pray that I will continue to have 585 this nightmare, or at least that I'll eat the rest of that anchovy 586 pizza if I do, or else this will all disappear! 587 ########################### INK ###################################### 068=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 01/14/88 23:40 Msg:1018 Call:6884 Lines:1 588 off 069=Usr:317 Gep Hardt 01/15/88 09:09 Msg:1019 Call:6889 Lines:3 589 """you don't exist if your parents' druther is PRO-CHOICE ... 590 Poor little oozing,pickled PROtoplasm spending time in 591 a jar. Gep """"""""""""" 070=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 01/15/88 22:59 Msg:1020 Call:6919 Lines:8 592 --==---===----====-----=====(ect) 593 I'm sorry INK, 594 but you were only designed by the non-existant aliens as a non-existant 595 creature to believe you were dreaming all of us who, are not here. 596 597 Lord G0d Beaker \__/ 598 oo 599 =======-------======------(ect) 071=Usr:272 Talos 01/16/88 00:20 Msg:1021 Call:6923 Lines:8 600 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 601 Look, start out thinking we don't exist and go from there. It's a hell of a lot 602 easier! Fred, what's with the negative waves baby? Why can't you relax, and 603 enjoy yourself or say something rightous? 604 Drinking wine and eating some cheese, 605 Talos 606 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 607 072=Usr:32 JOHN SILVERMAN 01/16/88 02:11 Msg:1022 Call:6927 Lines:2 608 WHY EXIST? 609 073=Usr:7 Leonard Erickson 01/16/88 02:25 Msg:1023 Call:6928 Lines:8 610 Recommended reading for all you budding solipsists (look it up!) out there: 611 "All you Zombies" an old short story by Heinlein... 612 "I know where *I* came from, but what about all you zombies?" 613 and 614 "I don't use aspirin. I took one once and you all went away..." 615 616 (Both quotes are approximate, it's too late to go doigging for the book now) 617 _________________________________Leonard_______________________________________ 074=Usr:55 Stray Cat 01/16/88 11:39 Msg:1024 Call:6930 Lines:5 618 @#$%^& @#$%^&^@%#$ %&^&% &^%&%&% &^%&^&^%& @*()(* #&&*(*&$ (*&(*&$(* &*(*&@#$% 619 620 why tacoma? 621 622 @)(* ()(*#$_)(* &*(@*#{body}amp;*(*@#&$7 &*(@#*{body}amp;*(@*#&$ &*@#&(*&(@#*&$(*&$#0)(!*&#$)(y 075=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 01/16/88 12:43 Msg:1025 Call:6932 Lines:8 623 ***************************************************************** 624 I notice in InfoWorld mention that the TRS-80 Model 4 running 625 TRS-DOS v6.02 would no longer boot as of January 1st 1988. 626 Acording to the article it doesn't recognize any year past 1987. 627 Seems it looks at the system clock on boot up and if it doesn't 628 like the year it won't boot. Interesting little bug if true. 629 Or as InfoWorld said, "either the cleverist bit of 630 marketing in microcomputer history...or a really stupid mistake." 076=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 01/16/88 12:45 Msg:1026 Call:6933 Lines:14 631 ************************** CM ********************************* 632 ################################################################### 633 If you create yourself how can you prove to anyone else that you 634 exist? It is a self feeding loop. If you don't create yourself 635 then at least you can spend your life looking for the proof that 636 you do exist. You'll never find it, but at least it will give 637 you something to do. 639 M&G: Ahh but does not the orderof the phospher thus give me existance? 640 You respond to the order thereby givin acknowledgement of that order. 641 What is life after all but order out of chaos? Hmm but then if one 642 was to apply that here there obviously is nothing but chaos, and thus 643 there can be no life here. Beam me up Scotty!!! 644 ################################# INK ################################ 077=Usr:245 Doug King 01/16/88 14:10 Msg:1027 Call:6935 Lines:4 645 646 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 647 I can sum up all of discussion into one quote:"Life's A Bitch And Then You Die" 648 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 078=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 01/16/88 22:12 Msg:1028 Call:6944 Lines:12 649 True that TRSDOS won't boot accept a 1988 date. It'll do just fine if you 650 don't bother to set the date. (There's a revised version that fixes the 651 bug.) By the way, if anybody has a Model 4 they want to unload, I'd be 652 glad to take it off your hands for you. 653 654 Why the negative attitude? Mostly to be different. And partially because 655 I'd rather be pleasantly than unpleasantly surprised. I don't think I 656 really meant it. But then again, who knows? :-) 657 658 Starting with a negative assumption is a winning proposition, Fable Master. 659 You have nowhere to go but forward! 660 -------------------- Fred, I think ---------- ... 079=Usr:13 voyeur 01/17/88 04:00 Msg:1029 Call:6952 Lines:13 661 Some usage statistics I've collected for this board: 662 month messages calls 663 --------- -------- ----- 664 June 199 984 665 July 121 983 666 August 99 863 667 September 99 731 668 October 126 731 669 670 messages per day: 4.26 calls per day: 28 msg/call: 15.2% 671 672 I see I missed lines/msg. Maybe next time. The more recent months will 673 have to wait until I get the next batch of Archives. 080=Usr:7 Leonard Erickson 01/17/88 18:48 Msg:1030 Call:6965 Lines:13 674 Ah, yes the TRSDOS 6.2 (and LDOS 5.1.3) "date bug". When they expanded the date 675 and time info stored in the directory (originally it only stored month/year!) 676 they were a bit crowded, so some brilliant person came up with a scheme that 677 coded the year in into 3 bits... So it only knows about years in the 1980-87 678 range. 679 The fixed version uses up space intended for the update password, meaning 680 that you no longer can have both a user password anad a maintenance password. 681 <sigh>... 682 I'd just as soon find out where it stores the "80" that is added to the year 683 and zap it to 88. 684 Anybody wanna buy a Model *I*? (genuine antique)(pronounced gen-u-wine anti-cue 685 by the salesman:-) 686 ______________________________Leonard__________________________________________ 081=Usr:252 dave brunker 01/18/88 21:02 Msg:1031 Call:6980 Lines:13 687 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 688 0 I thing I know why this d-drive isn't filled up since I last called. 689 0 (1-1-88 and its now 1-18-88) Everybody is on Donaldo's, right? 0 690 0 Well, tell me any-/every- body, if you were given the option of giving up 0 691 0 your family or being able to resist any sin, love everyone, become briliant 0 692 0 at doing anything you want and (If you use your given gifts) go to heaven 0 693 0 whitch woudl you chose and why? 0 694 0 0 695 0 head-in-the-clowds-Kodachrome 8) 0 696 0 0 697 0 Who's Jodi? 0 698 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1-18-'88 0 0 0 9:18pm 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 699 082=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 01/18/88 22:43 Msg:1032 Call:6984 Lines:8 700 Slug: I was referring to you when I mentioned the battle of wits. Interesting 701 that you thought I was referring to a company that can place 275000 trans- 702 istors on a tiny piece of silicon. Was your curse placed before or after 703 Intel got the 25 MHz 80386 running? As for stock prices, look around the 704 high-technology index. No one has weathered the recent stock plunge with 705 out some paper-value damage. And you were very clever for figuring out my 706 name. You win a used 1 MHz 6502. 707 ------------------------------------letni-------------------------------------- 083=Usr:272 Talos 01/19/88 00:19 Msg:1033 Call:6987 Lines:6 708 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 709 What is the number at Donaldo's? I keep losing it. I think I'd probably give up 710 sin and keep my family. Who needs sin when you can devise your own religion? :) 711 Talos 712 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 713 084=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 01/19/88 21:11 Msg:1034 Call:7007 Lines:15 714 -==---====-----======-------========---------==========-----------============ 715 This Jodi person went and started a whole line a philisophical conversations 716 and contemplations, and now she(I assume the female case)is gone. 717 718 Could this have been a random occurance, or was she sent by a greater being 719 to break us out of our traditional bonds of common thought. Desteny say I! 720 721 I'd choose the family. It's not much, but I love them. Besides, I've never 722 realy believed in Heaven to strongly, 'cept maybe that time I was going down 723 Blossom Bar (On Rouge River) Backwards in deflating raft. 724 Lord G0D Beaker \__/ 725 oo 726 727 ============-----------==========---------========-------======-----====---==- 728 085=Usr:272 Talos 01/20/88 01:22 Msg:1035 Call:7014 Lines:55 729 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 730 There's a cancer eating away at America, and I wan't to make sure everyone 731 knows what it is. By now you've all heard too much about the PMRC - Those 732 Washington Wives who seem intent on turning this country into a facist state. 733 But there's more to tell, and it's important. Have any of you noticed that 734 Albert Gore, the husband of Tipper Gore, the lady who's the head of the PMRC, 735 is now running for President? How do you feel about a guy who seems intent on 736 doing away with Rock-n-Roll sitting in the White House? Kinda makes you hope t 737 that 'ol Gary Hart can keep from getting horny long enough to run. 738 If you don't believe me when I say there's a connection between the PMRC & 739 Albert Gore running for President, just call the PMRC's phone number in 740 Washington, DC. You might be surprised to find the person anwering the phone 741 saying "Gore for President, headquarters." The truth is that Tipper used her 742 crusade against Metal and Rock bands as a springboard for her husband's 743 presidential bid. To me, Rock-n-Roll has always been something more than a tool 744 for politicians to use to attract attention to themselves. 745 One of the things that has me really pissed off is that she (Tipper) used 746 copyrighted material without the different band's permission in her book 747 "Bringing Up Kids In An Rated Society." She never even asked for permission. 748 Luckily for her nobody got steamed enough to sue her. Hopefully she'll come out 749 soon from behind her husband and take on the on going debates head on. She just 750 can't be the totalitarian preacher she want's to be. She's a fundamentalist, 751 just like Oral Roberts and all those other television evangelists who want to 752 save your souls - FOR A PRICE. Hey Tipper, what's YOUR price? 753 Unfortunately, fundamentalists only see life one way - their way. If 754 something doesn't fit into their vary narrow view of right and wrong, they 755 condemn it as wrong. I'm just waiting for the day when Tipper comes out and 756 calls Rock-n-Roll satanic. She's come awful close at times. But maybe she's too 757 smart for that. With her husband running for president, she's probably white 758 washed her opinions, making them seem very safe and positive. But I'm one guy 759 who still thinks that censorship in any form is not only wrong, it's unamerican 760 ! 761 I'm sure by now some of you are wondering what all this has to do with you 762 ? The fact is that it has a lot to do with everyone. If people like Tipper Gore 763 come to power, we can not only kiss off Rock-n-Roll, but a lot of other import- 764 ant things as well. Those people want to ban schoolbooks that discuss evolution 765 . They want to set us back to the Dark Ages. If we sit around and think they 766 can't do it, they may just surprise us. I'm sure that people in Germany, before 767 Hitler cam to power, didn't think a small group of fanatics could do them any 768 damage either. We can't forget the lessons of history - though people like the 769 PMRC would probably prefer we didn't read history books. 770 Some of you may be wondering why I'm bringing all this up now. For a long 771 time I was like everyone else; I heard about the PMRC and just assumed they 772 would go away as soon as Tipper and her friends found something better to do 773 with their time. Now I see the whole sinister plot in action. With Albert Gore 774 now running for president, I realized I couldn't keep quiet any longer - the 775 situation wasn't going to go away. If anything ti was gonna get worse. 776 I realized that if I kept my mouth shut, by the time my band got itself 777 together to go out and start playing some serious gigs, no place in the whole 778 country would book us (or anyone else). They'd be afraid that some Governmental 779 agency would give them a hard time if they dealt with a Rock-n-Roll band. It's 780 still not too late to do something about it, so I'm speaking up, and I hope you 781 do the same. 782 Talos 783 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 086=Usr:245 Doug King 01/20/88 13:02 Msg:1036 Call:7018 Lines:4 784 785 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 786 Hey Talos, that interesting stuff! What do you suggest we, as individuals do? 787 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 087=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 01/20/88 15:43 Msg:1037 Call:7021 Lines:8 788 -----------------------------------------=================================== 789 Do just what Talos did. Inform people of the truth! 790 791 Thanks Talos 792 793 LB\__/ 794 oo 795 ==============================---------------------------------------------- 088=Usr:210 BRITTANIA SCARBO 01/20/88 16:42 Msg:1038 Call:7022 Lines:26 796 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brittania <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 797 Not only that, but I'm an officer, too. 798 Try that on for size, Slug! 799 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 800 801 Fable Master: Midgard says "Hello." It looks like I'm the only Midgardian on 802 these days. I'll tell Muse and Richard and Co. That you're interested in us. 803 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 804 805 |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| Jody's back! |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- 806 Gads! I didn't *mean* to start such a load of philosophy! One voice in the 807 crowd......... 808 Fred- Well I don't like you, either, so there! 809 Tlaos, M&G, Fable Master- Thanks for the support. Would you like to start a 810 fan club? I'd be glad to give you my autograph and 811 all that crud. 812 Lord Beaker- I'm not just a random occurrence, though sometimes I am pretty 813 random. I'm glad that my presence makes people think, though. I 814 believe in thinking! In fact, I do it often. 815 Talos- Sorry about the typo above. What's a Talos? I'll support your cause, too 816 INK- If you aren't sure either of us exists, that's your perogative. But I know 817 I'm here. You may be or not be whatever you wish or don't wish. 818 Now that I'm back, what's everybody going to talk about? 819 820 |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| Jody's going again. |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| 821 089=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 01/20/88 21:33 Msg:1039 Call:7030 Lines:9 822 -==----========----------------================================----------ect. 823 Well Jody, 824 You just blew my theory to peices. Unless that last message was random to 825 but I won't get into that. What do you care or not to talk about. 826 827 Lord G0d Beaker \__/ 828 oo 829 -==----========-----------------===============================---------ect. 830 090=Usr:272 Talos 01/21/88 00:52 Msg:1040 Call:7035 Lines:34 831 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>OH NO! HERE HE COMES AGAIN!<*><*><*><*><*><*> 832 833 Jody, 834 Thanks for the support. I'm glad believing in you turned out to be 835 something that worked! Sure, I'll send ya my autograph for yours! :] 836 837 Slug, 838 Tell your friends, tell your family, (But don't tell mom or she'll ground 839 you!) :> But seriously, alert people to what's goin' down. Many people I've 840 talked with have been very surprised to find out what's been happening. 841 842 ALL!, 843 For the sake of information, this anti-rock campaign started when Tipper 844 Gore was passing her Daughter's room and heard her playing WASP's "Animal, .... 845 Like a Beast". How she got the song I don't know. At that time the song wasn't 846 released on any American albums or as a single. But ever since then Metal and 847 WASP in particular (I'm not too fond of the group but I do like a couple of 848 their tunes.) has been a primary target for Tipper and the PMRC. I guess she 849 feels we're (I'm a musician too, so that's why I'm so heavy into this!) 850 corrupting her daughter's morals. Maybe if Tipper really thought about it, she 851 would have realized that her daughter was telling her something - "Even good 852 families like Rock-n-Roll. It's just too bad that Tipper's bible is stuffed so 853 far down in her ears that she couldn't hear what her own daughter was telling 854 her. 855 856 L.B. 857 Theories were made to be broken. (heh heh). 858 859 All again!, 860 Thank you and Morning, 861 Talos 862 863 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>Over the Hills and far far aw!<*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 864 091=Usr:117 jason themnax 01/21/88 11:04 Msg:1041 Call:7038 Lines:39 865 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* themnax of lananara *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* 866 hello Jody 867 Hmmm all this life/existance stuff. Reducing to 'high concept' is usualy 868 an absurdum. That bit about life being a female canid might be a point of 869 departure for some sort of verbal surrealism but grandois assumptions tend to 870 rattle my cage. How life is perceieved has a lot to do with what one chooses 871 to think of thereof. The only way i can see life as being itself something 872 to find dissapointment in is that it might fail to live up (or down) to some- 873 one's expectations but is that realy a failure of life? or is it more a short- 874 comming of having expectations? you might be amazed how truely much more 875 pleasant it can be without them! off course life is also sort of addictive 876 but thats maybe another question. As is extance. 877 minerals certainly exist. it is aggreed by many they do not live as such. 878 pet rocks or no. it is also quit possible that our awairnesses have an 879 existance quiet seperate aand in no way dependent upon 'life'. 880 *=*=*=*=* 881 might as whell move on tword the end of what is so far written... 882 Bivul leaned back toward thair enimies around one side of the unit, Lojoce 883 the other, both spitting blow darts for all they were worth. Lojoce achieved 884 little resault but Bivul's stings found good effect. 885 By now Cymchal, one of the alternate drivers had arrived squerming through 886 the pass-back, more naked than not. He took the yiller. Bivuul's aim, now 887 freed of the distraction of driving, became truely devistating. From the rear 888 Lamshal, the other hunter, brought his archery to bear, 889 Soon lojoce's flank was in somewhat better order. Only Nelutha the healer 890 remained out of action. This due more from a shortage of positons to fire from 891 than any tradition or reluctance on her part. 892 Cymchal had gotten them turned around and it looked like they were going to 893 be able to win clear when a winged one appeared in the sky, not that anyone was 894 noticing. 895 That was when the motion box broke loose and they where without power. 896 Somehow one of the attacking elandar had managed to insinuate himself among 897 the wagon's undercarrage and Goddess only knows where he could have gotten 898 that wrench, let alone the knowledge to use it. 899 The stunt had almost certainly cost its performer his life. Point was, it 900 would now almost certainly take thair's. 901 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* 902 903 092=Usr:21 Fable Master 01/21/88 14:00 Msg:1042 Call:7040 Lines:9 904 FMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFM 905 . 906 Greetings Themnax, 907 . 908 Do you know who I am? 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I believe you have mail elsewhere. 958 959 ...???...???...???...???...???....???...???...???...???...???...???...???... 096=Usr:298 Lord Beaker 01/22/88 22:37 Msg:1046 Call:7093 Lines:14 960 961 -==-===-====-=====-======-=======-=======-========-=========-==========-==== 962 Wonderful picture. I was Impressed. ("I" in the existanal sense) 963 964 Remember.................................................................... 965 January 29, 1988--- Day Glo Friday. Make statement or something. 966 It dosent matter so long as you wear Day Glo Clothes. 967 ............................................................................ 968 969 Lord G0d Beaker \__/ 970 oo 971 ====-==========-=========-========-=======-======-=====-====-===-==-=-(close 972 enough) 973 097=Usr:272 Talos 01/23/88 00:29 Msg:1047 Call:7098 Lines:4 974 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 975 January 25-28, 976 Anti Day-Glo day Protesting! 977 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> 098=Usr:324 RANDY VAN MOODY 01/23/88 01:12 Msg:1048 Call:7102 Lines:17 978 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 979 = = 980 - ***** ***** * * ***** - 981 = * * * * ** ** * * - 982 = ***** ******* * * * * * * - 983 - ** * * * * * * * = 984 = * * * * * * * * - 985 - * * * * * * * * = 986 - * * * * * * ***** - 987 = = 988 - KRM97080 AFR 111 RAT 27 GRESHAM CONTROL UNIT#3 - 989 = 27.155 MEGHERTZ = 990 - CHANNEL 16 ON YOUR CITIZEN BAND DIAL...... - 991 = - 992 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 993 994 /S 099=Usr:325 Mix Master 01/23/88 01:36 Msg:1049 Call:7103 Lines:5 995 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* 996 * * * * * * * * * * * * * 997 * * ** **CCCC 998 999