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NUMBER OF LINES: 142 001=#0-0 04/25/1987 17:35 (0 Min) Msg#0 Call#0 Lines:19 1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 ************************* 5 MAY 87 (dev) ************************************ 3$Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4$************************************************************ 5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7$BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8$and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9$no restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10$privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11$I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12$periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13$to leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14$ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15$message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16$the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17$type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18$ *********************************************************** 19$ 002=#0-4 05/07/1987 22:59 (5 Min) Msg#1 Call#12 Lines:38 20 ::::::O O:::::::::::::05/08/87::::::::::::::::::::::::::00:24:31:::::::O O::::: 21 Good golly gosh! Lookit me, top of the disk. But...24 AUG 86? 22 ::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::: 23 PS - change is only allowed on one's own entry, even in Level 4? 24 But of course, else what is "god" level for? 25 ________________________________________Leonard________________________________ 26 oops! *Don't* try to use break to exit ENter mode! 27 28 Tsk..tsk.. someone left BWMS I in ALL ALLOWED mode. For shame. 29 :::::::O O:::::::05/08/87::::::::voyeur::::::::::23:58:47:::::::::::O O:::::::: 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ 31 Voyeur: No, God level is still God level... but you must make sure the lines 32 are unprotected before trying to change them. Mikey's disk header is 33 created with the protect bit set on each line. 34 It was good to see you around again at the Social! I'm sorry that I had to 35 leave almost as soon as you arrived. There will be other times. 36 Mike: Still collisions, with both 8250's out and both IRQ enable lines tied 37 high. (Sigh). I'll have to wait 'till I can get rid of the card. 38 Thanks for the help... 39 ++++++++++++++ Milch (where's my cool weather 3x5 card?) +++++ 5/9/87 +++++++ 40 boy, talk about *dead*! 41 ____05/09/87__________Leonard_JD 2446925.6586_________20:48:26_PDT_________ 42 -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- 43 SILLY question here, but what are the precedant "$"s doing on lines 1-19 on 44 DB? Here's another one: Why isn't BWII "cycled" in the same manner as BW? 45 (ie: DB-->archive DA-->DB 'fresh'-->DA) 46 Leonard: Talk about dead? Tell me about it--I want to contribute to the 47 deadness by killing a few of those ******* twits on the other side. Grr! 48 -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -JUGGLER- -+- -+- -+- -+- 49 -+- -OH GREAT, NO DEFINITION BETWEEN ENTRIES..- -+- -J- -+- -+- -+- 50 ************************************************* 51 Hmmmm, no headers here for some reason. Sigh..... something went wrong... 52 Why the "$"? that indicates that the line is protected and cannot be changed, 53 deleted, or killed. As to why no cycling of disks here as with BWI, that is 54 because the data file definition has changed between "disks" and the old 55 data can no longer be run here because it doesn't fit the newer format. 56 The old disks are available in the archives though. 57 ************************* CM 5-10-87 10:36am *********************** 003=#0-4 05/11/1987 06:32 (5 Min) Msg#2 Call#31 Lines:-28 58 If I can get this blasted modem interface working right, I'm shooting 59 for midnight this saturday to bring the system on line. 60 and here's a side thought for you, how about a "wake" for BW after 61 it is put to rest? 62 ********************** CM 5-11-87 8:30am ******************** 63 -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- -+- 64 Just how attached are we to the old Inn? 65 As in the actual BUILDING? 66 -+- -I have a dream.....- -+- -JUGGLER- -+- -+- 67 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 68 CM: KI still on the drawing board... (*sigh*). It seems there isn't any 69 efficient way to clean up things after marking the line KIlled, so brute force 70 will probabaly be the solution. KIlling sessions and line ranges will be 71 slow. Hopefully we won't need it much. 72 What are you changing the LEVEl password to if you go on-line Saturday? 73 ++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++++++++++++ May 11, 1987 ++++++++++++++++ 74 ************************************************************* 75 Hmm, still having header problems.... rats. I wonder what is wrong? 76 For now I'll be changing it to "pass wind" I still have modem control 77 problems to work out, and the headers seem to be giving fits here. 78 Milch: I've added in Unprotect and protect commands and a hack into the 79 del and undel to support it, but it still needs work there seems to be 80 a bug of sorts in both commands. Oh well. That's what i get for a quick 81 1/2 hours worth of hacking... 82 I'm going to be concentrating my energies on getting the thing to 83 work fully with the modem this week in the hopes of getting it on-line 84 saturday night. 85 Any ideas on the wake? 86 *********************** CM 5/11/87 7:00pm ********************* 87 So *that*'s the problem... I've trying to find things using the SE commands. 88 No wonder I couldn't find anything. But I could have sworn I tried BO and got 89 line 20... 90 Oh well... 91 ____05/11/87__________Leonard_JD 2446927.6187_________19:50:58_PDT_________ 005=#0-0 05/12/1987 19:18 (1 Min) Msg#4 Call#41 Lines:1 92 just a test to see if it will work 006=#0-4 05/12/1987 19:30 (1 Min) Msg#5 Call#42 Lines:1 93 a check here to see if the headers are working 007=#0-4 05/12/1987 19:31 (1 Min) Msg#6 Call#43 Lines:3 94 and another session just to be sure. 95 hip hip hooray! it is working again. 96 008=#0-4 05/13/1987 21:50 (4 Min) Msg#7 Call#47 Lines:7 97 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 98 Hey, I can get into this testing stuff, too.... 99 I wonder if I have a 3x5 card to make Headers appear? :-) 100 Mikey: The same hack in DElete and UNdelete to check for protected lines 101 needs also be put into KIll. (Why does UNdelete check protection? What use 102 would a deleted, protected line be?) 103 +++++++++++++++++ Milch in semilurk mode ++++++++ May 14, 1987 at 12:30am ++++ 009=#0-0 05/14/1987 16:36 (7 Min) Msg#8 Call#48 Lines:16 104 *************************************************************** 105 My first thought was "protect isn't much use on deleted lines", but 106 after thinking about it, there might be a case where a "god level" 107 delete occured that was desired to stay deleted possibly so that 108 it won't show to those who aren't in the inner circle, but not 109 allow a undelete on the stuff. I can't think of a specific instance 110 where that might be, but it doesn't take much to disallow undelete 111 on protect, and in fact if we merge the code together it might be 112 easier to code. As for why it is in there in the first place... 113 simple, delete was coded first, and then undelete was created by 114 copying the delete procedure. Thus...... 115 ************************** cm 5-14-87 *********************** 116 Well guys, only two more days until the big one! 117 On saturday May 16th at midnight BWI will no longer exist. 118 On Sunday May 17th at 00:01am BWII will be on the air. 119 ************************* 010=#0-4 05/14/1987 19:14 (4 Min) Msg#9 Call#49 Lines:6 120 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 121 Mike: Any ideas on the `wake'? Any others on the story? Is it possible to 122 get together on Saturday to determine what is going on? 123 All: 2400 baud at last. I speak to you now by the graces of my XT, Trailing 124 Edge modem, and Copylink+. ANSI Y now has a use. 125 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++++ May 14, 1987 at 10:03pm ++++ 011=#0-4 05/14/1987 21:47 (8 Min) Msg#10 Call#50 Lines:7 126 "Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out." 127 Thus ends Clarke's short story "The Nine Billion Names of God" 128 Somehow, the end of the Inn as we know it, brought this to mind. 129 Maybe bard will re-post Time-Winds Tavern Saturday.... 130 Mike: If you 'copy' BWI DA to BWII DB what are you going to do 131 about lines > 80 chars? (not that there are many) 132 ___________________Leonard (no _JD after SAT!!!!!!!) 012=#0-0 05/15/1987 17:44 (1 Min) Msg#11 Call#54 Lines:1 133 Hmmm, are you going to hope the disk doesn't fill? 28 lines remain... 013=#0-0 05/16/1987 07:06 (2 Min) Msg#12 Call#57 Lines:5 134 ******************************************************************** 135 All things will work out in the end.... 136 Shawn; Will you be showing up here saturday (today)? 137 Well guys, this is it, the big day! After today BW will cease to exist. 138 ************************ CM 5-16-87 ****************************** 014=#0-4 05/16/1987 11:58 (1 Min) Msg#13 Call#58 Lines:1 139 +++++++++++++ Mike: Yes. It might not be until late afternoon, though. Milch + 015=#0-4 05/16/1987 20:20 (1 Min) Msg#14 Call#59 Lines:3 140 Well, Bard is taken care of. Now to go off and see if I can come up with 141 something for the apprentice. (Boy, this'll teach him not to go to the Inn!) 142 ____05/16/87__________Leonard_JD 2446932.6435_________20:26:42_PDT_________