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21 Right On ! George & John: You gave 'em what they really deserved:
22 A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE! UUGGHH!!
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25 You will hear in plain words all that you wish to know, though even in speaking
26 of it I feel the pain of the storm god launched upon me, and the change of
27 shape, how it came suddenly on me, poor thing that I am. There were always
28 visions haunting my virgin bed night after night, and speaking kindly in my
29 ears with smooth words saying: 'O most fortunate maiden, why keep so long your
30 maidenhood, when you might make the greatest match.
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32 -Aeschylus
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35 I didn't know that Io and Hephaistos were visitors to the Inn.
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51 I looked and found that the cupboard was bare.....
52
53 Once cragain creativity has been mangled. Logging off.
54
55 BOZO
56 O\=<([V2V])>=/O
57 <<:**********************************************************:>>
58 St. Mary's Home for Boys runs a treatment program for teenage
59 sexual offenders who are ordered by the court to participate.
60
61 Part of that treatment involves the use of a machine called
62 the penile plethysmograph. The plethysmograph is a device that
63 measures erections.
64
65 The boy is placed in a room, the measuring device is attached
66 to his penis with a rubber band, and he is shown a series of
67 pictures of naked men, women, boys, girls, and children. The
68 plethysmograph measures what turns him on.
69
70 If he gets turned on by little boys, for example, a treatment
71 program is set up to help him reduce this response. After
72 treatment is completed he is tested with the machine again to
73 measure if his responses have changed.
74
75 What bothers me most about the use of this machine is that no
76 one has ever tested it on "normal" teenage boys. I suspect
77 that most adolescent boys are so naturally horny that just
78 about anything might turn them on.
79
80 It doesn't seem fair to me that St. Mary's is trying to measure
81 how "abnormal" these kids are when they don't even know what a
82 "normal" response is.
83
84 On a more personal level, I'm appalled at the thought of anyone
85 being held responsible for what their penis does. It's been my
86 experience that the little beastes have a mind of their own. I
87 know I'd sure hate to be held accountable for when the little
88 guy decides to raise his head.
89
90 Besides, I think the whole plethysmograph thing sounds kinky.
91 It makes me wonder what kind of a psychological effect the
92 procedure has on a boy already suffering from severe sexual
93 problems.
94
95 On the other hand, I know how you people felt about our old
96 friend Frank Jones. You hated him. The kids in the sexual
97 abuser treatment program at St. Mary's are the Frank Joneses
98 of the future. Do you feel that the way they are being
99 "evaluated" is justified?
100
101 Knowing your opinions about ol' Frank I'd be intrigued to
102 hear what you think of the plethysmograph. Is it justified
103 in light of the kind of adults these boys might grow into
104 with out it?
105
106 Grand D.
107 <<:*******************************************************:>>
108 it sure is!
109
110
111 ***JAN. 15***
112
113 Is Dr. Frankenstupe around here...I thought I saw him *lurking*.
114
115 Elena
116
117 p.s. We met at the airport
118
119 ***JAN. 15***
120 ___________________________________________________________________________
121 Well, it beats the hell out of a technique I've heard of. (note that I do
122 *not* know if this is actually used or just the product of someone's
123 deranged mind).
124 You use the same setup as Grand D. described except for a couple of 'minor'
125 differences. The subject is strapped down, and the measuring equipment is
126 connected to carefully placed electrodes.
127 Any response to the "wrong" stimulus gets immediate negative feedback.
128
129 Yeah... I hope it *is* only a horrid thought, rather than an actual
130 practice.
131
132 So I have no objection to the measuring device. What I worry about is the
133 use to which the measurements could be put.
134 ____01/15/87__________Leonard_JD 2446811.6505_________19:36:45_PST_________
135 I AINT NO SIKC KID ,BUT I AM 16. AND I FEEL EXITED SOMETIMES BY SENES IN
136 MOVIES OR TV SHOWS THAT SHOW WOMEN BEING BOUND. IT IS NOTHING I WOULD EVER
137 DO WITH OUT A GIRLFRIENDS PERMISSION. BUT THE IDEA IS ATTRACTIVE. PUTTING
138 THOSE DEVICES ON MY PENIS WOULD PROBABTY SHOW THE EXITMENT, BUT IT WOULD
139 NOT SHOW HOW EVIL AND CRUEL I KNOW RAPE IS. NO FLAMES FOR PERVERSITY,
140 PLEASE. IM JUST SAYING THE TRUTH.
141
142 BILLY `THE KID'
143
144 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchlurk :-)
145 Hey uhteas want some beans? Or how about some milk from the carton with the
146 blue cap? Oh no, I mean some from the carton with the red cap.
147 Larry
148
149 Larry, don't do that! It'll get me worried that he has learned how to whistle
150 at precisely 300 baud, and is calling in from downstairs. And, catch this, he
151 concocted a batch of macaroni and cheese tonight. Boy oh boy, I wish he worked
152 for a diet book writer or something... -uhteas
153
154 O\=<([V2V])>=/O
155 GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
156 Elena: Do we know each other by any chance? Do the words 'Key', 'Largo', 'So'
157 and 'foxtrot' mean anything to you? If not, please write this message
158 up to just another strange Backwater experience. If the words above do
159 have a special meaning, then GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE!
160 GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG Gambling Man GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
161
162 ______________________________________________________________________________
163 OK all you Star Trek Groupies out there, here are the latest stumper questions
164 for those great minds and memories of yours.
165
166 1) Name all the Star Trek episodes in which Captain Kirk defeated/shorted out/
167 or otherwise disabled a computer?
168
169 Hint for #1 - There are more than four and less than seven episodes.
170
171 2) Name all the Constitution class vessels that are destroyed in the series,
172 and each episode the ship is destroyed in, or mention is made of its
173 destruction.
174
175 Please enjoy the questions.
176
177 Quiz Master II
178 _______________________________________________________________________________
179 Answers:
180 1) Out on a chip; Chip 'n Dale; Banana Printer; Silicone Salad; and Hackies.
181 2)Constitution I - Gettesburgh Dilemna ; Constipation II - Benedict Arnold
182 Constipation III - Jewish Delight.
183 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
184 It's, true! I'm still lurking!
185 I'm also rather bored.
186 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu
187
188 Might one of those teenage boys Grand D. spoke about be our own John Dilks?
189 I rather think it is, you know. So John, how does it feel to have that
190 concoction wrapped up with your own thoughts? Pretty hairy I bet. Well
191 John, or J.D., I am sure that after treatment things will get better and
192 better.
193 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%Doctor Spock%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
194
195 ARE THERE ANY DATING BOARDS IN THE PDX
196 AREA? THANKS MUCH IN ADVANCEE.
197 TIM MARPEL BEAVERTON OREGON
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202
203 And you wonder how Net gets a bad name with people like Dr. Spock saying
204 things like that about an anti-Net person. NO! I am not trying to re-start
205 that mess again, and to the best of my knowledge, I was (inadvertantly) the
206 one who started it, and only as a poke to see what I could find out about it.
207 Boy, you people sure are touchy. Maybe there is something to defend, but I
208 doubt it, and it's in the past anyway. About this erection monitor, the exact
209 same thing came up on the Parrot. Makes you think the guy got it out of his
210 'Playguy' or something...
211
212 |=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|(KWH)|=|=|=|=|=|=|
213 Yes, it's me! I did it! And now I even (sort of) signed it... Too bad it's
214 taboo to give your real name around here...
215 CHAOS!!!;ldfviueh;o4t-4ulkmfvlkargaort]wefjt;lkajfv;zugakm];dfj@weh;ksjdnv:02
216
217 I'm probably going to regret this but.... my name really *is* Leonard!
218 ____01/16/87__________Leonard_JD 2446812.6684_________20:02:31_PST_________
219
220 AQC33908-12/Y
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222
223 Bob had been wandering in the forest for several days now, when he
224 came upon what seemed to be a deserted village. Suddenly, psychiatrists
225 dressed in pinstiped suits jumped out at him and wrapped a device around hi
226 penis.......
227
228 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Vixen :::::::::::::::::::::
229
230 WHAT DOES THIS BOARD RUN ON?
231 HEEHEEHEEHEE
232 WHAT HAS 1000 TEETH AND *EATS* HOT-DOGS?
233
234
235 A ZIPPER......<-----
236
237
238 /EX
239 Whatever happened to the door? You people aren't funny enough to make
240 anyone come back for the jokes, stick to the adventure!!
241 ************* THE COURT JESTER ****************************************
242 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
243 To my horror, I discovered that the incantations upon the scroll I had set
244 upon the table had a flaw in them! The letters began to rise from the vellum
245 sheet, growing and glowing, threatening to explode forth violently.
246 My reactinon was instinctive. Years of training in magic had taught me many
247 things about incantations, spells, runes, and other written magics, and the
248 big principle involved was simple: If you make a lettering mistake, you're
249 in trouble. You're lucky, at that point, if the spell simply consumes itself
250 and leaves a dark smudge upon the table. At worst, a powerful spell might
251 disintegrate a house before the energies bound in the scroll dissipate.
252 As I said, my reaction was instinctive. I have at my disposal a spell for
253 just such emergencies, prepared long ago when I first determined the danger
254 existed in the written spell.
255 The scroll and I flowed out of the room as I willed the escape- it was of
256 paramount importance to get the scroll away from the Inn as soon as possible.
257 I briefly imagined what my departure looked like to other patrons... the
258 letters leapt from the page, I start, and both scroll and I flow to a point
259 just before where I had been sitting... the point disappears with a bright
260 flash. Conversation continues, some wonder... Innkeeper returns, sees me gone,
261 wonders but does not comment.... the thought faded out.
262 I flowed through a corridor of light, away and toward nothing, moving with
263 apparent high speed (relative to what?).
264 An explosion. The scroll expended itself in the tunnel, somewhat ahead of me.
265 A sudden and violent jump in my orientation confuses me, and blackness engulfs
266 all....
267 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++ January 16, 1987 @ 11:48pm +++++++++++
268 ##########################################################################
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270 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
271 Greetings. Being new to all the nuances of telecommunicating i find my first
272 exposure on the B.M.S. has left me perpendicular. Mother never told me that
273 using my modem would bring me in touch with such diversity. Hold on.
274
275 I will now reveal some personnel info, in hopes that it might ignite
276 uncontrollable controversy.(Personally i have had my fill of sexually related
277 topics. What you do with your penis is your own business until you try
278 pointing it at ME!)
279
280 I earn my keep being a Light Rail Operator. If you haven't taken a ride
281 on MAX, you should. I think it's F U N.
282 If you've already been on MAX then i would be happy to entertain any
283 comments or complaints.
284
285 That's all for chapter 1. If anything it's a start. Logging off.
286
287 {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{}BOZO||}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
288 O\=<([V2V])>=/O
289 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppssnnoorre! (oops)ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
290 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.
291 attantion all ensundries
292 first of all, michner, innkeeper, and emu
293 love the stuff wyour writting. keep it up!
294 to firebird: thankyou for the conversation
295 look forward to seeing you again.
296 to net: have always been amused and enjoyed to story lines.
297 to scott jones:(if your there) hi, bill.
298 to all people: important!
299 if anybody heres of or from or sees Falcon be sure she understands
300 that she still has a home here at the keep! We are not going to
301 drag her to the hospital, we would like to talk to her; ther is mail here
302 for her(lots) friends are worried about her.
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306 Listen though to the sufferings in mortals -- how I found them all helpless
307 at first, and made them able to reflect and use their wits. I shall tell the
308 story, not from any grudge to men, but simply to declare the kindness of my
309 gifts. They, then, at first had eyes, but all their sight was vain; they
310 had ears, but did not hear.....They lived in burrows, like the light and
311 nimble ants down in the deep sunless recesses of their caves.....And then
312 I found for them the art of using numbers, that master science, and
313 arrangement of letters, and a discursive memory, a skill to be mother of
314 muses....I taught the interpreting, and I clearly defined omens met in the way,
315 the flight of crook-clawed birds, which ones were of the lucky sort, and the
316 others unlucky, and the way of living each kind had, what enmities there were
317 between the different kinds, what bonds of friendship and what associations
318 .....I made their eyes bright that before were dim and dark.....In this short
319 word learn all the story together: I gave all arts and sciences to men.
320
321 --Aeschylus
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324 Greetings all, just finished reading through the disks. Some very good
325 writing indeed. The other stuff just sort of passes by, ya know.
326 Grand D: I almost believe the statement on the penis measuring device.
327 However, it's just a little to humorous to take seriously. But, you
328 almost had me. Very well presented.
329 ****************************kathyD*******************************************
330 Ahhh.... It ain't real? Darn, I was gona rush down to my local shrink and
331 try one on. I thought it would make a real nifty "marital aid". Maybe I
332 can make my own. I think I'll go down to my shop and give it a try. Let's
333 see now, I got my 8mm projector, my Playboys, my vibrator, my pocket fish
334 scale...what else?...oh yeah, what did I do with that car battery...
335 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ devo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
336 <<:*****************************************************:>>
337 Leonard - The technology you referred to was the use of the
338 plethysmograph on adult offenders. The description you gave,
339 however, was a bit too extreme.
340
341 I don't think they strap adult offenders down. They just
342 let them know that cooperation is the only hope they have of
343 ever seeing the outside of a prision. Inmates are particularly
344 brutal towards perpetrators. They want out.
345
346 I don't think electro shock used much. If it is it's only
347 used in low voltages and is never applied to the genitals.
348 The preferred method appears to be to put a mask over the
349 nose of the perpetrators nose and give him a shot of
350 ammonia when he registers the wrong way.
351
352 These methods are only used on adult offenders, under court
353 order, when they are considered a danger to society. The
354 plethysmograph is only used on adolescent offenders as a
355 measuring device. They are not gassed.
356
357 KathyD - I admit there's a certain prankster quality to some
358 of my writing but this one is for real. I have to admit,
359 though, that if you can look at it from a distance it is
360 pretty funny. Though I doubt Frank Jones'd get much of a
361 laugh out of it.
362
363 Devo - Don't forget that the plethysmograph is attached to
364 a computer and printer. You wouldn't want to forget to
365 include those. After all, an ejaculation print out is a
366 real conversation grabber at a party. Particularly if you
367 have color.
368
369 Grand D.
370 <<:****************************************************:>>
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372
373 Do you really think you know what love is? I think not.
374 While you turned and walked away, I stood where your shadow had been and
375 watched my own tears form patterns in the cold concrete.
376 I stood and faced the rain of my own soul, the torment that you could
377 never understand while socializing at your southwest hills parties.
378 Nothing but my own lips could ever have told you how much I cared for
379 you, but you never listened.
380 Like a vulture that takes only what it wants, and then leaves the resdt to
381 rot, you walked away from me just when I had decided that I would never do tthat
382 to you.
383 So, here I am.
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388 I stopped and pulled the blanket up over Piper, as it had slipped down
389 to the floor. I carefully picked up the kitten, and took it back to the bar with
390 me, to get it another saucer of milk. I noticed a scar on its tummy,
391 and thought that strange. I wondered what strange adventures such a
392 small kitten had been through, at such a young age. I must ask Piper
393 when he awakens. Whatever it was had not affected the kitten's
394 appetite in the least. It finished the one saucer, and immediately
395 began mewing for another. I poured it out, and it drank it up.
396 When that one was done, I carried the kitten back to Piper's chair
397 and set it down on the blanket.
398 (Just a little bit of normalcy during the storm)
399 [][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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401 PsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSi
402 "Milchar, I was just wondering. Now don't take this to be a change of my
403 promise to sit back and let the door reveal what it may. But what if we were
404 to, Oh no. Wait." Cragmore sat back in his seat, furrowed his brow, clasped his
405 hands together, and closed his eyes.
406 "Cragmore?" Milchar looked at his friend. "Cragmore? What is wrong? Oh
407 well, I guess I'll continue to work on my spells while you drift off and do
408 whatever you are doing."
409 Milchar did just that. And Cragmore continued to sit, oblivious to the
410 activity in the inn. He missed the flying letters, and the flight of the
411 mage, who moments before had been carrying on a conversation with him. The
412 flash of light and the soft popping sound of Milchar's unorthodox exit, even
413 by Backwater's standards, went completely unnoticed.
414 The psi specialist was far away from the inn, yet near by time and space
415 standards. His mind had seen something, two beings merged into one. A glowing
416 ball, of incomprehensible origin. A man, a friend. The Innkeeper. Seeing this,
417 Cragmore went into mindsearch, a state where the physical gives way to the
418 mental, and all the psyche assembles for a single goal. The search. The
419 Innkeeper and the ball, a being, had merged. Cragmore saw in his search the
420 choice made by the innkeeper. Vistas passed by his mind's eye as if he had
421 been there to witness them the first time. But was there deceit in the
422 air when the Innkeeper and the entity fused. Yes, Cragmore's mind said, the
423 Innkeeper has entered this extraordinary agreement by his own choice. No,
424 Cragmore's mind countered, choice misled by falsehood is no choice at all.
425 I must look further, deeper, for the truth. The mind agreed.
426 PsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSi Cragmore PsIpSiPsIpSiPsIpSiPsI
427
428 ===============================================================================
429 Are all entried berating the anti-net faction automatically attributed to
430 NET personnel? Hardly. Backwater has seen many a time where one character
431 deemed it necessary, for whatever reason, to play both sides of the fence
432 and create controversy and attention. The Bear, PEN NAME, Zepher, J.D.
433 Silverman/Nom de Guerre are among the more notable. It's a common practice
434 and one best ignored. So look before you leap or you might find your
435 landing zone occupied by some very sharp thorns.
436 SIEWIOREK
437 ==============================================================================
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439
440 Siewiorek:
441
442 This may strike you as being unusual (as I do not know what sort of
443 customs exist on the boards you frequent), but the users of Backwater
444 entertain and enjoy their right to express their opinions. Although my
445 intention is not to condemn you for expressing your own, I would like you
446 not to make accusations of the sort in your above message. You mention
447 "playing both sides of the fence." Is this a crime where you come from?
448 This might be new to you, but peoples ideas change from time to time. You may
449 view this as good or bad, depending on which side of the "fence" you stand on,
450 but yet it exists and you can neither deny nor condemn it. Please try to be
451 less naive in future comments.hanks in advance.
452
453 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Vixen ::::::::::::::::::::::
454
455 What do you mean it's aceptable to change your mind about a subject? What kind
456 of way to operate is that? Don't you have any convictions, any close held
457 beliefs? Anyone who has any stability in their existance must hold closely
458 to what they believe. Without it life is but chaos. Of course that doesn't
459 mean that you must hold so close to your ideas that you cannot accept new ones
460 when they prove to be more accurate than current beliefs. You must be flexible
461 enough to adapt and adjust to a changing world. Anyone that has a closed mind
462 to new ideas will stagnate and die within their own excrement.
463 -------------------------- confused -------------------------------------------
464 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
465 Just when you thought things were going bad, things get worse. I'm sitting
466 here after weeks of unemployment, with companies that aren't hiring at this
467 time are busy laying off people, and no way to pay $25K+ education bill.
468 Finding out that the few friends that haven't gone off to another town are
469 to busy with their wives and fiances to spend time with you. On top of it
470 all, I cant even hold my cat. She died about 3 months ago. Mom isn't happy
471 with Dad, and as usual, instead of talking to him, she takes it out on me.
472 This wouldn't be so bad except it's turning out that this is a Typical
473 saturday night for me.
474
475 Life sucks.
476 F. F.
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478
479 +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
480
481 sorry to hear whats happening, FF, have you tried talking to someone about
482 your problems? it works a lot better sometimes than just typing your
483 frustrations out on a keyboard. If you don't have anyone to talk to, try
484 223-6161. (Don't try using your modem, it's a real person on the other end.)
485
486 AS FOR THE REST OF YOU: hi.
487
488 *********** ********** *******
489 ** ** **** ** ***
490 ** ** ** ***
491 ** ******** ****
492 ** ** ***
493
494 Well, I don't want to sound stupid or anything, but somewhere durring the course
495 of my life, somebidy forgot to tell me what it means when people put *'s around
496 the words that they write (or type as the case may be), so, could somebody take
497 the time to tell me what it means. Please. (Hi uhteas) - Larry (meajs)
498 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
499 Well, Larry, we use it here for *extreme* emphasis. We're limited in
500 what we can do with the type you see -- no underlines, italics, or bold
501 face type, no font changes. The other convention that we've adopted is
502 surrounding telepathic interchanges by #'s (although we don't do too
503 much of that and the custom isn't rock solid). Other groups have faced
504 the same problem -- the usenet for example indicates underlining like
505 _this_ -- put an underscore fore and aft of the word indicated.
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508 WANTED: Used Cray-1 freon pumps.
509 CONTACT: Slick O'Dell 555-2398
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511 Hey, FF, maybe life isn't always great, but it sure beats the alternative!
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513 hey there hi there ho there just got my modem working just leaving a
514 message to see how things are working.
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516 ps. i hope my ctrl chars arnt messing things up.
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518 The only way to grow is to change. - quote of the day -
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520 Grand D: ok, ok ,since you have presented yourself to me again in a
521 seemingly positive trueful manner; I will accept what you say as a
522 possiblity. However, I do not feel that I will extend any effort to
523 validate or condemn your statements.
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525 O\=<([V2V])>=/O
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527 Just when you thought life was fair, it was not. Just last week
528 I learned that I have cancer of the gonads. The operation is next
529 week. Nobody cares. I have no friends. My dog even bit me.
530 Not a small nip mind you; but a major chomp. Maybe I should feed
531 Fido more often.
532
533 I want to die.
534 G. G.
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537 G.G., That is your choice, but don't belabor us with the details.
538
539 Kathy D., Grand Dragonmaster is telling the truth. They do not use
540 electrical shocks to the genitalia because some people find that
541 erotic. I have heard of electric shocks to the fingers and wrists,
542 but the ammonia sounds more humane.
543
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547 Give us a break. Nobody finds electro shock to the genitals
548 erotic. Grand D.
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550 Don't knock it if you haven't tried it!
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555 Friar, my STB boarder denotes Strange But True, for I have experienced Out of
556 Body travels. The first time, I can barely remember, but I was around nine
557 years old. I was living with my parents of Sacramento California. I lay in my
558 bed one night during the summer. The bedroom windows were open, and the soft
559 white curtains blew quietly in a summer breeze. I remember looking out and
560 seeing the moon cast eerie shadows on the trees outside my window. I guess I
561 went to sleep then. I awoke with a start, for I was outside my window, on a
562 large tree branch, looking in at my room through the open window. I remember
563 thinking I must have sleep walked, for I didn't have my slippers on. Then I
564 looked in the window at my bed more closely, and lo and behold I saw myself
565 laying there, resting peacefully. You can imagine what a start the situation
566 gave my 9 year-old mind. I tried to move off the branch through the window,
567 but what ever will I envoked was simply returned as a null effort. I could
568 not move, yet I didn't feel paralyzed. It was as if my body, or whatever, was
569 incapable of movement, but my brain did not realize the fact. I simply was
570 not capable of locomotion, yet I knew that I should be able to move. Except
571 for other OOBEs I have had, I have never had a feeling quite like this.
572 Suddenly, I felt my grip slipping. I realized for the first time the squating
573 position I was in was held tenuously by both my arms on outgrowths on the
574 tree from the branch I rested on. I could move my eyes to see my hand slipping
575 off the branch. Yes there was no feeling save a tiny tingle that first
576 notified me of what was happening. I fell from the branch, yet I still could
577 feel no strong sensations. Now I know this sounds strange, but I landed, or
578 whatever you call it, in my bed. I sat up in my bed, and looked out the
579 window. The curtains blew and the moon cast shadows as before. There was no
580 evidence of my tree visit. I lay my head back down and went to sleep. The
581 next morning I had to thing rather long about what happened to determine that,
582 no, it wasn't a dream. I was really out there looking in, like an outsider
583 to my own experience, peeking in, and being dropped away. I never told anyone
584 until years later during a Jungian interpretation seminar. Do you want to hear
585 more about my experiences. For now, I will continue to use the Strange But
586 True moniker. I hope I have helped you.
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589 SBT - Yes, I want to hear more. And more about your other OOBEs
590 as well. Did you have a distinct feeling during your first OOBE that
591 this was not a dream ? What caused you to drop back into your body ?
592 Were the later OOBEs induced ? I am very curious, and quite serious.
593 Thanks very much for being open with me.
594 (And what is a Jungian interpretation seminar ? I only deal in
595 statistics for my Psychologist clients.)
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598 How do you know it was an Out of Body Experience, and not a dream?
599 It's difficult to tell that you *are* dreaming, usually.
600 +Dante-
601 Easy, you go to your favorite well done over medium and ask her if it
602 was an OBE or a dream. Then spend an additional $15 to get it translated
603 into what it all means. Which is a heck of a lot cheaper than $60/hour
604 for a shrink to tell you something about as accurate. Better yet, make
605 your own deductions and save your money. After all, no one else has the
606 information base to make that sort of interpritation.
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609 cha i am ok ,tnx for your body. sav
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611 oh come now, surely you jest!
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614 sav that is ok cha
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