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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 ************************ INSTALLED: 8 MAR 86 *********************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 *************************************************************************** 19 20 Voyuer: I'm unaware of any problem, but I'll check into it. I've never 21 had a glitch before, but it is always possible for a first time. I don't 22 check the files as a rule, because after a year of transferring files 23 with absolutly no errors I got tired of doing so, as it took a great deal of 24 time, so I rely on the system of telling that something went wrong, which 25 it usually does. Ala read error. I've never had a problem copying files on 26 my CPM system, but that is because it took me two years of programming and 27 mucking around with the 1771/1793 disk controller to find out how to 28 handle it with out getting any errors. It has a distinct habit of letting 29 errors through unanounce unless you know how to deal with it. (it has to 30 do with head bounce, yes, head bounce on a floppy, the most common cause 31 of soft errors on a floopy disk - that is if the drivers don't know how to 32 deal with it)... where was I? Oh yeah, I'll check into it and get back to you. 33 *************************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 34 `,`,`,`,`,`,`,` 35 36 help 37 Could someone please leave the number of a ibm bbs or other 1200 baud bbs # 38 Here for me sometime this week? Ill check back next saturday am for response. T 39 hanks Bill Wendle Hello Portland!"! 40 download 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 ds 48 ssd 49 a 50 ds 51 """""""""""""""""" 52 Soli took one last look around the Inn. He was no longer to visit it as 53 he would like, but he stilled stopped in when he could and see what was about. 54 Stories he used to follow closely were now sometimes hard to understand, but 55 that was to be expected. He smiled, sure that he had listened to all there 56 was to hear. He made a small guesture and muttered a few words. And with 57 that, he disappeared... 58 """"""""""""""""""(ch /longer/longer able/)Soli... 59 Also ch /stilled/still/. Stupid mental glitches... 60 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\THE DESTROYER\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\47 61 "You're lying!" James snarled, "She took a twenty millimeter slug in the stomach and died in my arms! Damn it, I... 62 I watched her die!" The bitter memory brought tears to his eyes for about the hundredth time. 63 Marannon shook her head. "Tariya is resting in her chambers at my palace in a healing trance. Her wound was 64 grievious, and it will be several weeks before she is fully recovered." 65 He wanted to ask how, but did it really matter? "Did... did she say anything about me?" 66 "She hasn't regained conciousness. But she will recover completely, in time. But right now you should be more 67 concerned with your own fate. Fortunately for you, I am not without gratitude." She reached into a pocket and pulled 68 out a small gem. It pulsed with a radiant blue light in perfect synch with James' heartbeat, responding to his power 69 even at that distance. Staring at it, he finally managed to struggle to his feet. Instantly he felt stronger. "I 70 believe this is what you have been searching for." 71 She came forward a step and placed the gem in his palm. The second he touched it, the light died. What he was 72 holding might as well have been a piece of glass. "What's the matter with it?" 73 "A precaution I have taken. You see, the gem has been placed under a very powerful oathspell. You must swear an 74 oath before you can use it, and if you later break the oath, the gem's power will fade and you will die." 75 He looked at her suspiciously. "And what kind of oath am I supposed to swear?" 76 "Oh, a very simple one," she said offhandedly. "One that will cost you little. You must never attempt to see or 77 have any contact with Tariya again." 78 His mouth fell open and it took a minute before he could speak. "Why?" 79 Still offhandedly, she explained. "You see, my daughter loves you very much. More than you probably imagine. But 80 you are a bad influence on her. You posess great power and almost never use it responsibly. You are dangerous. Tariya 81 deserves better than that. When she awakes, she will be told that, regrettably, you died in the assault on the council 82 building. Her feelings will be shattered, but she will survive and ultimately be better off." 83 He stared at her for a long moment. "No." He finaly said, "That's not it at all. You're afraid of me. When I 84 finally get all my power back I'll be a threat to you and whatever dictatorship you're gonna start. You think that by 85 separating me from Tariya that you'll never have to worry about me again. Right?" 86 Surprisingly, she wouldn't meet his eyes. "Think what you will, the bargain stands. Your life for Tariya." 87 He looked at her, his eyes full of pain. His voice was almost pleading. "But I love her." 88 She snorted. "Love! What do you know of love?" She continued, "You're young. And soultappers have incredibly long 89 lifespans, should they survive their adventures. Thousands of years. Leaving now will be very hard but you will be 90 surprised at how quickly the wound heals. The galaxy is full of young, beautiful girls. Take the oath, and go find 91 yourself a new life elsewhere. If you don't," Her face darkened, "You will die. The cancer is burning through your 92 blood even as we speak. You can feel it. Your power will no longer hold it back at all. Without the gem, you will have 93 no more than six weeks." 94 Six weeks. The words fell on him like the thud of a tomb door. he stared at the cold, lifeless gem in his hand. 95 Memories played through his mind. His meeting tariya at the Inn. Her offering of her life to escape the dimensional 96 prison. Waking up in a stasis coffin to find her warm, smiling face looking down at him. Her dying (he thought) 97 declaration of love for him. 98 He had no other chance. The gem was one-of-a-kind. He could search a thousand years for another. But he only had 99 six weeks. It made perfect sence. With a potential lifespan of millenia, he could go anywhere, do anything he wanted. 100 Despite all the problems he had, he enjoyed his life as the Destroyer immensely. So much potential was left, just 101 waiting to be touched. He didn't want to die yet. And he didn't have to. All he had to do was betray Tariya. When it 102 came right down to it, the choice was very simple, as most choices are. 103 He closed his hand on the gem and made a fist. He squeezed as hard as he could, the cords in his wrist standing 104 out. There was a muffled crunch in his fist. When he opened it up a shower of glittering shards fell to the floor. 105 When he looked up again his face was full of fierce, cold determination. 106 "I'll be back." 107 Without another word, he turned and walked out of the shattered chamber. She didn't bother to follow. Instead, she 108 just stood there, staring at the pile of shards. 109 He gave it up. He was gambling that he would find another cure before his time ran out. If he did... 110 God help her. 111 She felt a sudden chill in the air and shuddered a little. She told herself firmly that he had thrown away his 112 chance. He had already been looking for two years with no success. Now he was right back where he started. Worse than 113 when he started. In six weeks, she wouldn't have to worry about him any more. 114 Not that she had time to worry now. She had a planet to rebuild and a brand new empire to take charge of. It 115 wouldn't be easy, she knew, but she could do it. She had spent years planning just how. 116 She put the Destroyer out of her thoughts and instead put her mind to the task at hand. 117 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\THE DESTROYER\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 118 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 119 Please excuse the stupid spelling errors. I was concentrating on some 120 thing sl~~else... 121 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 122 ______________________________JD 2446498.6857______________________________ 123 on 124 125 off 126 Hi. I am Syd. Enjoying this BBS.If I need validation or you want to talk, call 7 127 760-xxxx 128 Sorry about the garbage in last message. I'm used to a different format. Syd. 129 Hello, I'm Chuck Lewis Tualatin,Ore. 130 97062. (503) 692-xxxx. I'm looking for some Secretarial 131 Support Work for my small business. We do Resumes, Class 132 Papers and the like. Give us a call and see what we can do. 133 134 135 136 137 end 138 bye 139 bye 140 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++;++++++++++++++++++++++ 141 P.V. Jeltz: I have succeeded in logging on M.U.X. The outer password, 142 "LETMEINYOURBBS" must be in all caps. Rubout (H7F) is used instead of BS (H08). 143 Right now, only upper case is supported. 144 ++++++++ 145 freddy: Your analogy of the people pushing the boulder isn't quite accurate. 146 We don't all push simultaneously. One person pushes it this way, then someone 147 else takes his turn and pushes it that way. Sometimes the stories go 'round 148 in circles, but more often the stories meander their way towards the group goal. 149 +++++++++ 150 "Look! Look at Piper!" 151 Somehow Milchar found himself saying these words. They hadn't been pushed out 152 of his mouth in the mundane manner, but rather leaped out of their own accord. 153 Piper reached out a hand. "Milchar -- how? Cragmore? Innkeeper! His lungs 154 must be nearly eaten away by the gas!" 155 Just then the relief was so intense I nearly did not hear him. Cragmore tried 156 to explain the situation to him and apologize to the rest of the group at the 157 same time. Milchar nodded to him and told him it was not necessary to 158 apologize for an opinion. 159 Piper seemed to be breathing without much trouble. Milchar smiled with the 160 161 satisfaction of a job well done, and again lay his head down. He listened to 162 the others as they talked, and replied as he had to. It was time to begin 163 the restoration of his poewer. 164 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++++++ 08 Mar 86 at 10:42pm +++++++++++++++ 165 ++Pardon the use of first person: ch /I/Milchar/, ch/ /poewer/power/, whatever 166 else. Must've ground a few mental gears shifting from 3rd to 1st person. ++++ 167 :::::::::::::O O::::::::03/08:::::::::::::::::::::22:54:::::O O:::::::::::::::: 168 CISTOP: I took another look at the Archive files with the problems, and what I 169 found is rather interesting (*I* think). With the exception of the first two 170 flakey files, the problems in all the others ALL occur on a certain marker 171 consisting of ->128<- backslashes. When the 128 character line of "\\\"'s 172 occur, the following line is appended to it. No room in your I/O buffer for 173 the CR/LF when the entire sector is full of slashes? 174 The problem with the other two files (30Dec85 & 09Jan86) also has to do with 175 long lines, but They didn't happen to be the backslashes. An example: 176 247 The secretary of Defense, a man known for being cool under fire, eased into 177 the conversation. The President had great respect f248 and he listened, as did 178 every man in the room. All eyes were riveted on the gentle features of this 179 great negotiator as the man 249 "First I will summarize "... 180 181 What it boils down to, I think, is that MA 128 causes problems for more than 182 just FA & FI. I was able to fix the \\\\ entries by hand, since no data was 183 lost, but the entry above (from 30DEC85) seems to have lost some words, as 184 did 09JAN86. I sure hope your CP/M version is intact if your MS-DOS isn't. 185 :::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::: 186 \\\\\\\\\\\\\uh-oh...\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 187 #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$ 188 The Hell Machine 189 (3) 190 191 Frank slowly picked himself up off the floor. Battery powered backup lights were beginning to flicker on. The air 192 was filled with the sharp stink of ozone and melted plastic and metal. Though his voice made his head hurt even worse, 193 he yelled out, "Hey! Somebody speak to me! Is everyone all right?" 194 Norbert groaned, "Not me. Feels like they nuked my cerebellum." 195 "You and me both. Jean! Doug! Say something!" he called down into the semidarkness. 196 "Something." Doug called back, giggling a little. 197 "We're... all right." Jean said slowly. She shook her head, trying to clear it. The fog was slowly lifting. "If I 198 knew what one felt like, I could say whether or not we just experienced a psychic feedback." 199 "It was a trip, I can say that." Norbert commented, still a little groggy. He looked over his instruments. "Crap! 200 Everything's burned out. I got no power anywhere." 201 "I could have told you that just from smelling the air." Frank replied. He tried the backups but they were dead, 202 too. So was the ventilation. "Jean? Since you're next to the door, would you care to prop it open so we don't 203 suffocate? By the way, what's a psychic feedback? Never heard of it." 204 Norbert suddenly gasped, "Holy sh- Look!" and pointed to the back of the lab. 205 The materialization platform was hidden from direct view by the lead shielding but the fading glow being reflected 206 off the walls and ceiling behind it told them something was happening. Cautiously, the four got up and approached it. 207 Doug kept to the back, a knowing smile on his face. 208 "Stay here." Frank said, as he went around the shield. He appeared a second later, holding a large object in his 209 hands. It was a statue of a nude woman, about three feet high, and formed in such perfect detail that it could not have 210 been made by human hands. The most amazing thing about it was that it appeared to be made of solid gold. Jean saw from 211 the way Frank's muscles were standing out that it must have been heavy. She hoped he didn't hurt himself. 212 Frank set it down on its base with a grunt. "I got into this field to get away from hard work. Could that be real 213 gold?" 214 "I thought we were trying for a cylinder." Jean said. 215 "Sorry." Doug said. His eyes were fixed on the statue. He went over to admire it closer. He ran his hands over its 216 smooth curves. "It's beautiful, isn't it?" 217 "Yes it is." Frank assured him. "Jesus! Solid gold? How the hell did we do that? It must be worth a fortune!" 218 "Yeah," Norbert said, "probably about one-fifth the cost of the equipment we blew up. Not a very profitable scheme. 219 'sides, considering all the variables that we couldn't control, more likely it's an alloy that looks and weighs close 220 to gold." He leaned closer for a better look. "The detail's fantastic, though. You can even see the hairs on her-" 221 "Norbert!" Jean said warningly. 222 "Oh. Uh, sorry." He blushed bright red and busied himself checking damage. 223 "Anyway," Frank said, "We'll have to get a sample upstairs to the matallurgy boys for analysis and identification. 224 Then we'll know for sure. We can probably take some off the base-" 225 "NO!" Doug screamed. He threw his arms around the statue protectively. "Don't damage it! You can't!" He looked 226 pleadingly at Jean, "Miss Lambert! Please don'T let them hurt it! Please!" 227 Startled by the vehemence of Doug's reaction, Jean hastily reassured him. "Don't worry, Douglas. I won't let them. 228 Calm down." Frank looked at her in disbelief and she took his arm and led him to the back of the room. Speaking softly 229 so Doug couldn't hear her, she said, "Tell me, doesn't that statue look familiar?" 230 Frank replied, "Well, I can't say I recognize the body, but I think I know the face. That's his ex-wife, isn't it?" 231 "Exactly. It's obvously an idealized image of her and he can't bear the thought of it being damaged. I think we 232 should humor him on this, at least until later. There's no rush. Maybe I can convince him to-" 233 Suddenly the lab door slammed open. Standing there, panting, was Dudley Wilson, one of the computer nerds from 234 upstairs. He was frantic about something. "I... out there... the mountain..." he puffed incoherently. 235 Norbert grabbed him by the shoulders and said, "Calm down, guy! Calm down. What about what mountain?" 236 Dudley regained his composure a little. "It's-it's gone! Mount Hood just vanished into thin air!" 237 238 (To Be Continued...) 239 #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$# J.D. SILVERMAN $#$#$#$#$#$ 240 !##!NDS!##! 241 __________________________________________________________________________ 242 243 About that new 36 line BBS system called the M.U.X. SYSTEM.... Does anyone 244 know what "terminal type" it requires? I did try to get on the system with 245 an Apple using my "Pro-Ez" comm. software, but M.U.X said "incompatible 246 terminal" and disconnected me. I'm very new at telecomputing and don't 247 understand.... 248 __________________________________________________________________________ 249 ******************************************************************* 250 Voyeur: Your deductions are close to the mark, I've been going through the 251 archive disks, and discovered as you did that the lines that are 128 long 252 have the problem associated with them. Luckily I happen to have the 30Dec85 253 BW disk still intact, and looked through it with a disk utility program. 254 Surprise, the archive disk *is* a carbon copy of the BW disk. It seems that 255 when the line is exactly 128 characters long that no carriage return is put 256 on the disk. (The CR is how the system knows it is at the end of the line 257 in the given sector.) But since a 128 character line fills the entire sector 258 there is no need for a CR right? Sooooo.... now the transfer utility adds in 259 the various pieces of information that are not a part of the disk, such as 260 line numbers and the tag line indicating how many lines are in the file. 261 It looks for a CR in each sector, and uses that to determine that it 262 has reached the end of the current line, and throws away the rest of the 263 sector. Then it adds a LF to the end, and go gets the next sector. But, 264 if it doesn't see a CR, it can't transfer it to the file, nor of course add 265 the LF. So, what you see in those files is an exact copy of what was on the 266 BW disk. No CRs. 267 So how come nobody complained about this before? I'm sure there have 268 been other 128 line entries in the past. Hmmm strange. Anyhow, the transfer 269 utility has been fixed, and it nows adds the proper CR/LF even if there is none. 270 So, don't worry about the lost data, there wasn't any. Apparently the lines 271 in question were the result of someones upload that wasn't paying attenion 272 to the line lengths on BW, and tried to send 132 character lines or somthing. 273 So the lost characters have always been lost, because they never got onto 274 BW in the first place. 275 The end result to all of this is, put a CR/LF at the appropriate place 276 in the file, and you're alright. 277 ********************************* CISTOP MIKEY ****************************** 278 Mikey- you are right about the above. The entry that mentions the Secretary of State was uploaded, and I made the lines 279 long. I set the margin at 120, but went ovet that in several lines, so nothing was lost. It just never got on. Sorry for 280 the inconvenience, I'll watch this next time. [*=*] DELTA FIVE [*=*] 281 L'homme: will Super Utility read DS disks? If so, we may be able to save 282 some space in the xfers. (Assuming I get that DS drive hooked up soon!) 283 I'm as long as your using a format that I have to use SU on anyway.... 284 (oops ch /I'm/I mean/ mental glitch...) 285 ______________________Leonard_JD 2446499.4620____________________________ 286 ################################################################################ 287 ## ## 288 ## 289 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 290 So i was walking into k-mart when i saw the 'blue light special' light snap on a 291 nd........ 292 i went to by some baby fish huggies for a school of fish my mother was teaching 293 and said............ 294 CONTINUE 295 fish huggi 296 fish hugg 297 fish huggi 298 what? 299 off 300 cntrl-c 301 help 302 list 303 ln 304 print 305 ma 10 306 fish huggi 307 ies? 308 huggies? 309 what are t 310 hey i cont 311 inued!!!!! 312 who are yo 313 u the k-ma 314 rt lady in 315 blue said. 316 ....... 317 `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` 318 Apple User: You mentioned something about your "Pro-Ez" communications 319 Software... I was just wondering what that was and where you got it from. 320 I am also a Apple User and have been calling with the Ascii Express software 321 for around two years. Please leave information on this board if you would be 322 so kind. 323 `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`Mark. 324 325 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 326 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 327 328 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 329 hi! morrissey.........3/9/86.......................1:45am.......... 330 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 331 to the APP.User: It said that to me also. So I tried holding the shift key 332 down while typing the entrance line. Once in it didn't matter. I was valid- 333 ated in 24hr. 334 #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$# Madwand #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$# 335 336 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp thinking ... (ouch) pppppppppppppppppppppppppp 337 ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 338 I know you are all getting a little sick of my borders, but I thought since 339 I was planning on changing the name of this system to the JD SILVERMAN/ 340 DESTROYER personal board, the borders are appropriate, don't you think? Just 341 wait, in time, when I get more stories started, I'll be able to take up 400 342 and more lines out of every 629 on the system. Just wait! I've got a couple 343 more in the cooker right now. 344 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 345 PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP 346 OUCH 347 oh no please dont th 348 reatin us with anoth 349 er of your long dull 350 never ending or begi 351 nning stories! 352 We can barely take 353 reading through your 354 trash you like to ca 355 ll literature,now! 356 //////////////////// 357 //////////////////// 358 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 359 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 360 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::z:=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::===== 361 Piper: Ok. Here goes. 362 :::::=====::::: 363 Straxi had been studying the aliens for some time now. They`had`suddenly 364 appeared out of nowhere while Straxi had been tending xihis Maniquart herd. They 365 couldn't breath chlorine, but as to how they had solved that problem Straxi was 366 uncertain. Straxi rushed back to his home and returned with a translator, 367 hoping he could make contact with |hthe creatures, who didn't speak common 368 H'ran. Straxh turned the dial on his teleporter belt to match the location 369 f t bo 370 of the alien's`ship. He felt the tug of the teleportation. As he entered the 371 ship, he gagged on the strange air within. Quickly, he put on his status 372 helmet, which brought on the refreshing air of his homeworld. BSuddenly he 373 realized that all eyes were o~ n him. How foolish he had been. If he thought 374 that these creatures wdreere alien, then they couldn't help but feel the same way 375 about him. His three fingers fumbled across the controls of the translator, 376 as the device scanned the aliens , trying to find the correct frequency. WHhile 377 his first two hands were occupied with txhat task, the other two were adjusting 378 the helmet he wore over his small, turtle tlike head. 379 Straxi finally found the correct frequency for his translator, and for 380 the first time, he spoke to the aliens. 381 "Hello. I am Straxi,` of the planet H'an. W-welcome. `W ho are you?" 382 :::::===== 383 Piper: How's that? 384 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::===== 385 ::::::::::::::O O::::::::3/10:::::::::::::::::::::::18:23::::::O O::::::::::::: 386 CISTOP MIKEY: you're right about the 128-character lines not being a new 387 problem - I looked back through the Archives from Jan '85 forward, and found 388 about 15 occurrences. I guess nobody looked closely enough before. 389 (If I'm not reading the stupid things, why am I spending so much money on 390 buying them...?) 391 ::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::: 392 Zephyr: 393 Find a new backspace key. Your old one doesn't work right. 394 --------------------------- 395 ______________________________JD 2446500.6307______________________________ 396 "This is getting ridiculous" thought Bard as the alien appeared. "I 397 hope we don't get any more visitors 'popping in'" was his comment to the 398 others. 399 "Why not?" asked Cragmore. 400 "In case you haven't noticed, we're running out of room in here!" 401 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 402 Folks, remember, this vehicle isn't much bigger than a small truck. No 403 dimensional folds. Pilot & co pilot seat in front, a doorway between them, 404 two bunks in back, and a lot equipment... I figure about 8 human-sized 405 creatures max... & the life support may not handle that many.... 406 maybe we should set up a shelter? 407 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 408 methinks s 409 toryline 410 herenot 411 goodvery 412 plagerism 413 much like 414 homeworld 415 garbage 416 and 417 safeplace 418 likesounds 419 Zephyr the 420 Rabbit In 421 mode teen. 422 Good msg 423 bd.oldhow 424 the sysop? 425 12or less 426 methink. 427 mediocracy 428 say 'BYE' 429 Can you 430 say 431 functional 432 ly? 433 illiterate 434 ? 435 ma40 436 i agree not much of a story! but what dy 437 do you expect for free????????? 438 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 439 //////////////////////////////////////// 440 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 441 //////////////////////////////////////// 442 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 443 //////////////////////////////////////// 444 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/ 445 ///////////////////////////////////////\ 446 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ 447 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 448 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 449 Great pattern eh? 450 **************************************** 451 Ya! good pattern 452 much better 453 than 90% of the stuff on here!!!! 454 i agree THE DESTROYER//////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 455 HMM........ This is my first time on this system.. It looks as though its a 456 good one. Trying to figure it out will be lota fun. Well, here goes... 457 my name is Ron Pyle. Hope that doesn't present a problem on this board. 458 print 459 460 461 462 463 M 464 465 466 MENU 467 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 468 Ron Pyle: No, I don't think that your name will present a problem, but 469 any use of control characters might. You must remember that the rest 470 of us who see your message might not have the same kind of terminal 471 that you have, and the cntl char could do nasty things to unsuspecting 472 VDT's. I don't know for sure what cntl char you used, but judging by 473 what it did to my screen, I suspect it was cntl-^. Thanks, but no 474 thanks. I'd rather not deal with that kind of electron beam 475 gymnastics. Oh, don't forget, cntl-C gets you out of the enter mode. 476 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 477 O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+ 478 Hmm... I didn't see any of that. I think I love my terminal for being 479 so universal. 480 Morrissey: Have you been missing a little sleep there? 481 Looks like spring break is around the corner. Too bad I'll be gone from 482 Backwater for a week. Hope I don't miss much. I just finished reading 483 Illusions by Richard Back. I'd highly recommend it for a one-nighter. 484 Anyway, midterm in an hour. Gotta go. 485 486 ch/Back/Bach/ (The author of Johnathan Livingston Seagull) 487 O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+ POPPING IN O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+ 488 489 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 490 TO: MIKE DAY 491 FROM: NOM DE GUERRE 492 RE: JD SILVERMAN/THE DESTROYER 493 BETWEEN THE TWO CHARACTERS OF THIS ONE WRITER (AND IS THERE ANYBODY STILL 494 DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THEY ARE TWO PEOPLE?) I BELIEVE HE IS TAKING AN 495 UNFAIR AMOUNT OF SPACE ON THIS BOARD. HE IS RUNNING TWO STORIES WITH LINE 496 COUNTS LONGER THAN ANY OTHER SINGLE PERSON ON THIS BOARD EVER USES. I KNOW 497 OF AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE WHO HAVE QUIT READING THIS BOARD BECAUSE IT SEEMS 498 TO HAVE DEDICATED ITSELF EXCLUSIVELY TO ONE WRITER. I THINK MAYBE YOU 499 SHOULD PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN AND TELL THIS PERSON TO SUSPEND EITHER ONE OR 500 ANOTHER OF HIS STORIES UNTIL THE OTHER IS FINISHED. AND HE SHOULD KEEP HIS 501 LINE COUNT DOWN TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OR RISK DELETION. I KNOW YOU CAN DO THIS 502 AND KNOW AS WELL THAT A *LOT* OF OTHERS WOULD APPRECIATE IT AS WELL. OR 503 MAYBE THIS REALLY HAS BECOME THE JD SILVERMAN/DESTROYER PERSONAL USE BOARD? 504 PLEASE REPLY 505 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\NDG\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 506 507 !##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##! 508 Monsieur De Guerre; A few points, if I may. 509 This IS a system free to its users. Whatever ideals you have that 510 you feel compelled to install on others is not universal amoung the 511 readers here. Although due to the free nature, you may, and have, 512 posted your views. 513 Since you show yourself to be so knowledgable of the user in 514 question, would not your comments be best held in conversations 515 strictly between yourself and your, well, associate user? 516 Debates between calm and rational parpicipants have always been 517 welcomed here on BWMS. In fact, they were at one point the life of 518 this system. I've heard it said that we haven't had a good debate in 519 years... Well, a year at least. 520 Name calling and hate-mail also have had their place. For what 521 good, I don't know. But what I've been seeing here these last two 522 months is a display of contempt, venemous at times. I don't care for 523 it much, if at all. 524 This is a billboard for writers, and I shall read whatever is 525 posted here for others to read. I make my own selections. It just so 526 happens that I am one of the few that continues to read The Destroyer 527 series. 528 Seeing as there are users with the attention span of only one 529 screenful, and I have stated my views, I shall depart. 530 Nom De Sant 531 !##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##!##! 532 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]][][][][][][][][][][][][] 533 Hello Mark, 534 I thought that might be you still lurking on this system. I, on 535 the other hand, have not been here for quite some time. 536 You can't seriously be thinking of replacing the faithful ASCII 537 Express? I would be like killing an old friend. You should be 538 well adjusted to its shortcomings by now. 539 Lastly, how much would you like to wager that Alan is also here? 540 He can change his identity, but he can't hide his total lack of 541 social grace ( or his lousy sense of humor ). 542 Try to overlook the typos... 543 You know who. 544 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 545 In case anyone is wondering, Nom De Sant is an "old and respected" user. 546 He did not pick that name to bug "Nom de Guerre". 547 I don't know if JD Silverman is "the Destroyer" or not, but he isn't 548 taking up *that* much space... in fact if you removed both storylines, it'd 549 take close to a month to fill a disk at the current rate. Others have used 550 similar amounts of space on a semi-regular basis... BARD for instance. 551 I have no objections and in fact I'd still have no objections even if I 552 *didn't* like his/their stuff. There's alway the DO 10 command... 553 ______________________Leonard_JD 2446501.5975______________________________ 554 :::::=====:::::===== 555 Waiting: Rabbitlurk. 556 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::======:::::=== 557 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 558 To the best of my knowledge, Nom De Sant is not a 'he'. 559 ----------------------**-----------------------**--------------------**-------- 560 *%()_@#$*%@#_)%*!_)+*%)_@#*%)_#$^&*#$)_*^)_*@#_%*!+%*@#^*#$)_^*)_$#*^@)*%^#_$^*()+#$^*)_*^@$)_^&@)_*@#_)^&*$)_^*#$_ 561 Mikey: I might as well chalk off this week too as far as visiting USD is concerned. The tug between Clyde and Chuck is 562 starting to have adverse physical and psychological effects. I'll try to make it out soon, because I would like to 563 see the 808x emulator on the ST, and I would like to try the AdventureWare programs on a disk that doesn't have 564 the desk accessories as you spoke of. If it does free up additional memory, then I should be able to place the 565 introduction subroutines back in the main program. The chain technique just doesn't make it when the source code 566 is in ASCII. No word on Chuck's purchase 567 of an Emulator, and, I have not been able to reproduce the error in READCPM. Chuck doesn't want it on either of 568 his hard disks, so perhaps we'll never find out what really happened. (de da de dum de da de dum) 569 How is the address change going? New versions? ARG! On the archives, contrary to what that voyeur character says, 570 SOME people do read the disks, and discovered the line length problem long ago, and fixed the lines in question by 571 adding a cr/lf at the end. I'm glad to see the confusion this time was merely due to an over-abundance of 128 character 572 lines due mainly to borders and faulty uploads. Everything looks fine after editng. Got it voyeur??? :-) Hey, I had to 573 get a small dig in, now that you're street legal and everything! :-) BEWARE TROJAN HORSES. 574 Leonard : No luck on the disk yet, will report findings later. Are you sure you didn't plug this in to 110VAC by 575 mistake? 576 %*@_*%_)@%*@)_^*#)@_*^@)_^*@)_^&@^_@&^ L'homme sans Parity *%_#@*%_@)#*%)_*%)_%*@#_)%*@_%*@#^_)@*^)_@*$^_)*^#_)^*#_^#**^ 577 578 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 579 The stories entered by Jon Silverman are long. Regard less of the waste in 580 space, or the good use in space, the stories take a good portion of the reading 581 time on this system. It is more the waste, or good use, of time that bothers 582 everyone than the wasted space. Though some fanatical archivists might wring 583 their hands at the space taken up in their libraries of disks. 584 On the Blue Parrot at least, it is possible to skip an entry. A fair part 585 of the user list on that system, does skip them. This system is different. I 586 am not implying worse, only different. What is written here is to read and 587 everyone gets his moment in the spotlight. A point which makes debates here a 588 good deal better than on any other system around. 589 The point I am trying to make, is that Jon Silverman and other lengthy 590 bibliophiles ought to take into consideration the time span they are imposing 591 on the rest of us. Rather than entering their things here, they might enter 592 them in a place with a skipping feature. They might enter them on a system of 593 their own devising. Or heavens to Betsy, they might leave them where they got 594 them, from a book, or on Compuserve. 595 Mister Silverman, will you please limit yourself to the most interesting 596 of your stories on this system, and send the rest to other systems with skip? 597 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 598 599 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_ 600 Hmmmmm.... I can remeber the days when I used to take up much of the 601 disk with my entries (ah, creativity, where has though gone?) I have to 602 agree with NDS and Leonard. This board is open to all writers. Limits 603 should be imposed only when the prose becomes vulgar. 604 Dr. Frankenstupe 605 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_ 606 Drat Enter Only! ch/remeber/remember 607 +++others tolerate my writing, I'll tolerate theirs. +++++++++++++++++++Milch 608 PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP 609 ::::::::::O O::::::::03/12:::::::::::::::::::::::::00:44:::::::O O::::::::::::: 610 L'homme: Harumph! 611 Others: if you object to the length of time/space that Mr. Silverman (et al) 612 take up on this board, what would you rather see? Short, succint (but meaning- 613 less) entries like the row of 'P's directly preceding this? Anything more 614 complicated overloads your comprehension, I suppose. 615 ::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::: 616 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 617 ON A WHIM, I TIMED THE TIME IT TOOK TO SCROLL THROUGH SILVERMAN'S TWO STORIES 618 ON THIS DISK: JUST UNDER SIX MINUTES. THE UNNAMED PERSON ABOVE HAS A DEFINITE 619 POINT. APPARANTLY MR. WONDERFUL HAS THE IDEA THAT WHATEVER COMES OUT OF HIS 620 TYPWRITER IS SOLID GOLD AND MUST IMMEDIATELY BESTOW IT UPON US POOR, UNDER- 621 PRIVALAGED PEONS WHO HAVE SUCH A SHORTAGE OF GOOD LITERATURE TO READ AND DO SO 622 IN AS LARGE QUANTITIES AS POSSIBLE. I DON'T THINK HE STOLE HIS STUFF FROM 623 ELSEWHERE AS HE IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH. HE IS NOT EVEN AS GOOD AS HE THINKS. 624 I WISH HE COULD GET THAT THROUGH HIS HEAD BEFORE EVERYBODY GETS DISGUSTED AND 625 STARTS BOYCOTTING THIS SYSTEM, LIKE THOSE PEOPLE I MENTIONED EARLIER. 626 MIKEY: I WOULD REALLY LIKE A REPLY. I AM CURIOUS AS TO YOUR OPINION ON THIS 627 SITUATION. 628 YOURS TRULY, NOM DE GUERRE 629 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\NDG\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\THIS IS NOW *MY* BOARDER\\\\\\\\\\\\\ TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 629